Crime rates between Russia and the US

Hi guys, ive heard that overall crime rate is higher in the US than Russia.

What about homicide rate, is it higher in the US than Russia with all these mass shootings by psychos at schools and Colleges + rival street gangs?
What do national statistics between the countries tell us?

Well, according to this, the US has 4.7 murders per year per 100,000 people, while Russia has 9.2:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Svyatoslavich wrote:Well, according to this, the US has 4.7 murders per year per 100,000 people, while Russia has 9.2:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Surprised since the US has regular mass shootings..

andrewlya wrote:

Svyatoslavich wrote:Well, according to this, the US has 4.7 murders per year per 100,000 people, while Russia has 9.2:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Surprised since the US has regular mass shootings..

I wouldn't use wikipedia for anything.

Your question also suggests domestic sources for their crime rates and wikipedia certainly is not one of them.

max steel wrote:dangerous in what sense ?

Crime, particularly homicide rate.

By homicide rate the USA is 111th in the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

Police Brutality , count that in .

BTRfan wrote:

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

The police shot more in the 1 month than german police in 10+ years or other polices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

Werewolf wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

The police shot more in the 1 month than german police in 10+ years or other polices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/09/19/224043848/the-u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders


According to Gunpolicy.org, Russians have far fewer guns than Americans — and far more homicides.

There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.

The most recent homicide statistics for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.

According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large. More than 80 percent of those killings were gun-related.

BTRfan wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

The police shot more in the 1 month than german police in 10+ years or other polices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/09/19/224043848/the-u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders


According to Gunpolicy.org, Russians have far fewer guns than Americans — and far more homicides.

There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.

The most recent homicide statistics for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.

According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large. More than 80 percent of those killings were gun-related.

The hell??

These numbers need to be checked and we need to get more up-to-date numbers to compare.

BTRfan wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

The police shot more in the 1 month than german police in 10+ years or other polices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/09/19/224043848/the-u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders


According to Gunpolicy.org, Russians have far fewer guns than Americans — and far more homicides.

There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.

The most recent homicide statistics for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.

According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large. More than 80 percent of those killings were gun-related.

US statistics do not count in murder by police with non lethal weapons such as tazer, pepperspray or suffocation by cop brutality of sitting 6 people on one guy like we can see in hundreds of videos.

Also statistics suck ass, it does not matter how many guns there are when you have more video footage proof of unarmed people, very often blacks, getting killed while by statistics they should be armed. Such things do not happen in russia, they are in fact almost non existent and when something like that happens it is a big outcry, in US it is hourly buisness.

Less homicide than Russia will not going to prop up US Economy : FYI

Werewolf wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

The police shot more in the 1 month than german police in 10+ years or other polices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/09/19/224043848/the-u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders


According to Gunpolicy.org, Russians have far fewer guns than Americans — and far more homicides.

There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.

The most recent homicide statistics for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.

According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large. More than 80 percent of those killings were gun-related.

US statistics do not count in murder by police with non lethal weapons such as tazer, pepperspray or suffocation by cop brutality of sitting 6 people on one guy like we can see in hundreds of videos.

Also statistics suck ass, it does not matter how many guns there are when you have more video footage proof of unarmed people, very often blacks, getting killed while by statistics they should be armed. Such things do not happen in russia, they are in fact almost non existent and when something like that happens it is a big outcry, in US it is hourly buisness.

American police kill about 1200 people per year, some killings are justified, some are questionable, some are clearly unjustified.

In some nations [i.e. Brazil] the police kill almost 7,000 people per year.

BTRfan wrote:American police kill about 1200 people per year, some killings are justified, some are questionable, some are clearly unjustified.

In some nations [i.e. Brazil] the police kill almost 7,000 people per year.

Hurry, drop a line to Anne Coulter.

BTRfan wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

The police shot more in the 1 month than german police in 10+ years or other polices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/09/19/224043848/the-u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders


According to Gunpolicy.org, Russians have far fewer guns than Americans — and far more homicides.

There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.

The most recent homicide statistics for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.

According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large. More than 80 percent of those killings were gun-related.

Buahahaha.. "According to the FBI.. Bin laden from a cave in afganistan masterminded
the terror attacks in 9/11.. welcome to the king of ignorance.. yes thats you. US is the most destructive nation in the world ,you cannot compare Russia with America. in US police kills you without blinking an Eye no matter if your women or children . Is a totalitarian Fascist state. in Russia Police is not even remotely close to that.. US numbers about crimes are not different than their numbers of their state of their economy , unemployment and real debt. a total joke.
and completely hidden the real numbers .

When no longer you can trust in your own government for your own life ,ie.. 9/11 was an inside job , and they start to finance and arm terrorism ,or arrest and or kill americans without any
justice system or law process..and not even can trust in your own police , is when you realize you need to move the hell away of that shit place. Or else it could be you the next poor victim of either a egomaniac police man ,or a false flag with your plane shot down by your own government. Just compare the numbers of people Jailed in USA vs Russia , numbers that are more harder to fake and you will see a real idea of what is going on there. US have more citizens in Jail ,that CHina who have near  4x times its population and less freedoms. 2 millions 200,000 americans in jails.. vs Russia 800,000. The real numbers of Americans deaths have to be 10x times more at least on the statdistics they report. In those numbers are neither included the mysterious missing in action people , kidnapped people , migrants . But what do i know? that have many friends living in New York and they are really scared there for their lives , and want to move from there. When is not police or FBI that could kill you in a happy trigger incident or falseflag. you could be killed by a Criminal .  In Russia a big part of the deaths comes from the American CIA operating in Caucasus in full swing who try to recruit terrorist to create troubles in Russia. and even Putin himself from his own mouth have said this. That US embassy is the major trouble maker with terrorism in Russia. is time to wake up , imbeciles. America is not remotely a nation or any example for the world other than how not to Run a country is a totalitarian fascist terrorist state ,and about half of the Americans hate it ,is comparable to North Korea in terms of human rights ,but freedom of expression ,thats the only thing left that remains there from a democracy..because elections are rigged. lol.  the other half like you living in zombie land. Thinking US is a democracy and that they are "Free". a place where even sharing food to homeless people can get you in jail . LOL is a joke nation ,and the only reason
doesn't explode in civil wars is because people are brainwashed by its media .

Vann7 wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

BTRfan wrote:

max steel wrote:Rampant gun violence in US and wikipedia doesn't take police brutality into the account .

Less than 40 people each year are killed in "mass shootings" in the USA.

Most gun deaths are hardcore criminals shooting each other, nobody cares about that.

The police shot more in the 1 month than german police in 10+ years or other polices.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/09/the-counted-police-killings-us-vs-other-countries

http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/09/19/224043848/the-u-s-has-more-guns-but-russia-has-more-murders


According to Gunpolicy.org, Russians have far fewer guns than Americans — and far more homicides.

There are fewer than 13 million firearms in circulation in Russia, compared with an estimated 300 million in the United States. That works out to about 9 guns per 100 people in Russia and closed to 100 guns per 100 people in America.

The most recent homicide statistics for Russia show that there were 21,603 killings in 2009.

According to the FBI, the United States had 13,636 homicides in 2009 with a population that is more than twice as large. More than 80 percent of those killings were gun-related.

Buahahaha.. "According to the FBI.. Bin laden from a cave in afganistan masterminded
the terror attacks in 9/11.. welcome to the king of ignorance.. yes thats you. US is the most destructive nation in the world ,you cannot compare Russia with America. in US police kills you without blinking an Eye no matter if your women or children . Is a totalitarian Fascist state. in Russia Police is not even remotely close to that.. US numbers about crimes are not different than their numbers of their state of their economy , unemployment and real debt. a total joke.
and completely hidden the real numbers .

When no longer you can trust in your own government for your own life ,ie.. 9/11 was an inside job , and they start to finance and arm terrorism ,or arrest and or kill americans without any
justice system or law process..and not even can trust in your own police , is when you realize you need to move the hell away of that shit place. Or else it could be you the next poor victim of either a egomaniac police man ,or a false flag with your plane shot down by your own government. Just compare the numbers of people Jailed in USA vs Russia , numbers that are more harder to fake and you will see a real idea of what is going on there. US have more citizens in Jail ,that CHina who have near  4x times its population and less freedoms. 2 millions 200,000 americans in jails.. vs Russia 800,000. The real numbers of Americans deaths have to be 10x times more at least on the statdistics they report. In those numbers are neither included the mysterious missing in action people , kidnapped people , migrants . But what do i know? that have many friends living in New York and they are really scared there for their lives , and want to move from there. When is not police or FBI that could kill you in a happy trigger incident or falseflag. you could be killed by a Criminal .  In Russia a big part of the deaths comes from the American CIA operating in Caucasus in full swing who try to recruit terrorist to create troubles in Russia. and even Putin himself from his own mouth have said this. That US embassy is the major trouble maker with terrorism in Russia. is time to wake up , imbeciles. America is not remotely a nation or any example for the world other than how not to Run a country is a totalitarian fascist terrorist state ,and about half of the Americans hate it ,is comparable to North Korea in terms of human rights ,but freedom of expression ,thats the only thing left that remains there from a democracy..because elections are rigged. lol.  the other half like you living in zombie land. Thinking US is a democracy and that they are "Free". a place where even sharing food to homeless people can get you in jail . LOL  is a joke nation ,and the only reason
doesn't explode in civil wars is because people are brainwashed by its media .

Actually the FBI declined to post a "wanted poster" for Bin Laden in regards to 9/11 on the grounds, "we have no credible evidence that he was involved."