Yemeni Conflict: News #2

Saudi Arabia has killed 8,278 people in Yemen: Group

More than 8,200 people have been killed and many more injured ever since Saudi Arabia started a war on Yemen in March, a civil group says.

The Yemeni Civilian Association announced in a report on Wednesday that the ongoing Saudi attacks have claimed the lives of 8,278 people, including 2,236 children, and left 16,015 others injured.

The attacks have also destroyed or damaged:

- Around 345,722 houses

- 39 universities

- 262 hospitals

- 16 media offices

- 615 mosques

- 810 schools and educational centers

- forced the closure of around 4,000 schools

Further damaged in Saudi strikes:

- 1,113 government buildings

- 191 factories

- 59 heritage sites

- 41 sports stadiums

- 124 chicken farms

- 547 food stores

- 421 fuel tankers

Saudi attacks have destroyed or damaged:

- 530 bridges and roads

- 163 water tanks

- 140 power plants

- 167 telecommunications sites

- 14 airports

- 10 seaports

The report comes in the wake of the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) warning about the dire situation of Yemeni patients amid Saudi attacks on hospitals.

Robert Mardini, who heads the ICRC’s operations for the Near and Middle East, has said the situation in Yemen is turning into one of the world’s “forgotten conflicts”.
Yemeni mourners pray over the coffin of Almigdad Mojalli, a freelance Yemeni journalist killed in a Saudi air raid, in Sana’a, Jan. 18, 2016. (Photo by AFP)

Earlier this month, the ICRC’s outgoing health coordinator in Yemen, Monica Arpagaus, warned that hospitals in Yemen are no longer safe.

“We have incidents where hospitals have been targeted and patients have been injured and staffs have been killed,” Arpagaus said.

“Drugs, medication and medical supplies have been prevented from crossing frontlines into hospitals which desperately need these supplies.”

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2016/01/21/446699/Saudi-Yemen-war-casualties/

KoTeMoRe wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:Yemenis claiming the downing of a reconnaissance drone today.
They are even showing the good old S-75 (SA-2) being launched as well as the tracking radar and search radars in operation.
Don't know if it is legitimate. If it is, it means that the Yemenis still have some air defense assets.

That video removed.

Try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShsHkCZhcS8

Daaaaamn You Yemen. I was having my coffee. And then I see a fully SKD S-75 going on like this was 1969. These guys are like the McGyvers of war.

Ok, hand 'em the tough mother-fucker award now that Serbia is in retirement.

Every piece counts however I presume Iranian helping hand is working 24/7. As for S-75 is still an overkill to uav flying with 500km/h and on 10km ceiling. For most US UAVs flak 88 mm might do the trick

Saudi double tap on Yemini village. Not work safe, bodies abound. Evil bastards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gYaArAnkvQ

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:Yemenis claiming the downing of a reconnaissance drone today.
They are even showing the good old S-75 (SA-2) being launched as well as the tracking radar and search radars in operation.
Don't know if it is legitimate. If it is, it means that the Yemenis still have some air defense assets.

That video removed.

Try this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShsHkCZhcS8

Daaaaamn You Yemen. I was having my coffee. And then I see a fully SKD S-75 going on like this was 1969. These guys are like the McGyvers of war.

Ok, hand 'em the tough mother-fucker award now that Serbia is in retirement.

Every piece counts however I presume Iranian helping hand is working 24/7. As for S-75  is still an overkill to uav flying with 500km/h and on 10km ceiling. For most US UAVs flak 88 mm might do the trick  

i agree such a big old missile to use agains some a SA-7 could have dealt with or anti aircraft gun, the mention of the flak gun is interesting, the Iranian's have converted there KS-19 100mm anti air guns into radar controlled self loading called Sa'ir or sa'eer see below pictures and youtube clip.
Iran also has the Mesbah-1 an eight barrelled (4x ZSU-23-2) anti air weapon which is rader controlled etc its pretty impressive.
But i personally think this is a good idea to turn older systems into something quite useful with the required modifications and upgrades and they aren't that sophisticated upgrades really, the same technology can be applied to different systems, the systems that come to mind are the following:
ZPU-4 14.5mm
M1940 (72-K) 25mm
M1939 (61-K) 37mm
S-60 57mm,
M1938 76mm
M1939 (52-K) 85mm
KS-19 100mm
KS-30 130mm

any of these systems could have the upgrades that the Saeer had, Radar and IR/Optical sensors and a good fire control system and your sorted. All of the above systems have more than enough punch to take out UAV's are are a lot cheaper to fire than MANPAD's and other anti aircraft systems using missiles. There must be loads of ZPU-4, S-60, and 61-K sitting around in storage in many countries. And with UAV now becoming a normal piece of equipment in armed forces makes sense to have a cheap way of taking them out, convert all your anti aircraft guns in this manner and with the numerous amount of anti aircraft guns in inventory and the cheap upgrades this would allow them to field many units then and place them along your border job done.

Saudi General threatening to turn Yemen into rubble

https://www.facebook.com/DemocracyInSaudiArabia/videos/1293314310694224/

Houthi ambush a pickup. Not worksafe, dead bodies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpbf2mhgUjE

China offers support for Yemen government as Xi visits Saudi Arabia

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-china-yemen-idUSKCN0UY0C1

Cute, it seems that China is BFF with Saudis now.  Supporting Hadi puppet ffs.



All ready for some beheadings ?



Some Mcgyvery 14.5mm AMR Houthis have welded/soldered recently:

d_taddei2 wrote: i agree such a big old missile to use agains some a SA-7 could have dealt with or anti aircraft gun, the mention of the flak gun is interesting,

[ciach]

But i personally think this is a good idea to turn older systems into something quite useful with the required modifications and upgrades and they aren't that sophisticated upgrades really, the same technology can be applied to different systems, the systems that come to mind are the following:
ZPU-4 14.5mm
M1940 (72-K) 25mm
M1939 (61-K) 37mm
S-60 57mm,
M1938 76mm
M1939 (52-K) 85mm
KS-19 100mm
KS-30 130mm

any of these systems could have the upgrades that the Saeer had, Radar and IR/Optical sensors and a good fire control system and your sorted. All of the above systems have more than enough punch to take out UAV's are are a lot cheaper to fire than MANPAD's and other anti aircraft systems using missiles. There must be loads of ZPU-4, S-60, and 61-K sitting around in storage in many countries. And with UAV now becoming a normal piece of equipment in armed forces makes sense to have a cheap way of taking them out, convert all your anti aircraft guns in this manner and with the numerous amount of anti aircraft guns in inventory and the cheap upgrades this would allow them to field many units then and place them along your border job done.

Me thinks that the most important upgrade here is in programmable and controlled ammo &&fire control systems. However even guns like Iranians´ 100mms against most of helos or UAVs are more than enough IMHO.

Can you imagine AH-64 formation against AA barrage by battery of 100mm? I bet on battery But yes AA artillery does not seem to be dead yet

Kadmos45 wrote:China offers support for Yemen government as Xi visits Saudi Arabia

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-china-yemen-idUSKCN0UY0C1

Cute, it seems that China is BFF with Saudis now.  Supporting Hadi puppet ffs.



All ready for some beheadings ?



Some Mcgyvery 14.5mm AMR Houthis have welded/soldered recently:

hehehe this 14,5 anti-tank rifle as heavy sniper guns is nice idea if ammo grad ewould be better even interesting role.
As for China one news from Reuters is not yet saying about any action. Reuters have 50 juornos in Moscow and still russian news are created in London

GunshipDemocracy wrote:
As for China one news from Reuters is not yet saying about any action. Reuters have 50 juornos in Moscow and still russian news are created in London

It has nothing to do with Reuters and Russia unfortunately:

All sources are from Xinxua

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/cnleaders/201601xjp/saudi.htm

typical headlines:


China, Saudi Arabia agree to set up high-level committee to steer cooperation

Lifting China-Saudi ties to comprehensive strategic partnership an irresistible trend: Xi

China, Saudi Arabia elevate bilateral ties, eye more industrial capacity cooperation

China and Saudi Arabia pledged Tuesday to resolutely oppose terrorism in any form that threatens world peace and stability, vowing to strengthen security cooperation.

"We are against linking terrorism with any religion or religious sect," the two countries announced in a joint statement signed as Chinese President Xi Jinping is visiting the kingdom.

"Any decision that may cause social disruption and chaos in Yemen should be avoided," China and Saudi Arabia said in a joint statement signed during the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to the Middle East nation.

The two countries also voiced their support for the legitimate regime of Yemen and for the resolutions of the UN Security Council as well as the proposals of the Gulf Cooperation Council on Yemen.



I think i'm gonna puke ...

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote: i agree such a big old missile to use agains some a SA-7 could have dealt with or anti aircraft gun, the mention of the flak gun is interesting,

[ciach]

But i personally think this is a good idea to turn older systems into something quite useful with the required modifications and upgrades and they aren't that sophisticated upgrades really, the same technology can be applied to different systems, the systems that come to mind are the following:
ZPU-4 14.5mm
M1940 (72-K) 25mm
M1939 (61-K) 37mm
S-60 57mm,
M1938 76mm
M1939 (52-K) 85mm
KS-19 100mm
KS-30 130mm

any of these systems could have the upgrades that the Saeer had, Radar and IR/Optical sensors and a good fire control system and your sorted. All of the above systems have more than enough punch to take out UAV's are are a lot cheaper to fire than MANPAD's and other anti aircraft systems using missiles. There must be loads of ZPU-4, S-60, and 61-K sitting around in storage in many countries. And with UAV now becoming a normal piece of equipment in armed forces makes sense to have a cheap way of taking them out, convert all your anti aircraft guns in this manner and with the numerous amount of anti aircraft guns in inventory and the cheap upgrades this would allow them to field many units then and place them along your border job done.

Me thinks that the most important upgrade here is in programmable and controlled ammo &&fire control systems. However even guns like Iranians´ 100mms against most of helos or UAVs are more than enough IMHO.

Can you imagine AH-64 formation against AA barrage by battery of 100mm? I bet on battery But yes AA artillery does not seem to be dead yet

the apache's would end up in piles of metal i think even though apache's are protected against 14.5mm i think even a battery of ZPU-4 all firing at once would be enough to overcome them with the sheer amount of rounds hitting it something has got to give and then there's the distraction to the pilot flying it and may end up crashing it. AA artillery mostly now has found a use as a ground support role which its does very well, but with these upgrades they could become useful again in anti air role. As for ground support role i have always thought that the ZSU 57-2 with a few upgrades including an enclosed turret is ideal for ground support role and think how many are sitting in warehouses.

Kadmos45 wrote:[  It has nothing to do with Reuters and Russia unfortunately:

All sources are from Xinxua

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/cnleaders/201601xjp/saudi.htm

typical headlines:

China, Saudi Arabia elevate bilateral ties, eye more industrial capacity cooperation
I think i'm gonna puke ...

Then China against Russia indirectly first time in current era.   I wonder what Chinese  want to gain by sudden love to Sauds? hahal pork in 7 tastes?

Now Chinese prez is paying a visit to Iran, let´s wait what news will be then.

d_taddei2 wrote: the apache's would end up in piles of metal i think even though apache's are protected against 14.5mm i think even a battery of ZPU-4 all firing at once would be enough to overcome them with the sheer amount of rounds hitting it something has got to give and then there's the distraction to the pilot flying it and may end up crashing it. AA artillery mostly now has found a use as a ground support role which its does very well, but with these upgrades they could become useful again in anti air role. As for ground support role i have always thought that the ZSU 57-2 with a few upgrades including an enclosed turret is ideal for ground support role and think how many are sitting in warehouses.

C´mon Apache are invincible at least on Rambo 7000 or something The concept of using 57mm now is alive and kicking in Russia. There are tested new weapon stations so I hope some day also Terminator 3 will have 57mm instead 30 mm. Good for both low flying objects and ground stuff.

I wonder if for low intensity conflict or conflict without much armor/air force (like Syria) up-armoured machine on tank basis, armed with 57mm high elevation is not the best option.

Don't need to drive an agenda here, no attack helicopter could survive a 100mm round and barely any could do anything against a 57mm even tho such incidents exist.

Damn those Tusken Raiders...

GunshipDemocracy wrote:Then China against Russia indirectly first time in current era.   I wonder what Chinese  want to gain by sudden love to Sauds? hahal pork in 7 tastes?

Don't think Russia has adopted a position vis-a-vis the Houthis. If it has then it will probably be the standard 'call on all sides to negotiate and agree to a cease-fire', etc...
It hasn't explicitly thrown its lot in with the Hadi government but then the silence from Russia says something itself.

The fact is that the Hadi government is the legitimate one even though Hadi is just a corrupt puppet of Saudi Arabia with little support in his own country and that must seek the aid of foreign militaries to return to power. So neither Russia nor China can be seen to support the rebels against him.

Ofc, one can always do to the Saudis as the Saudis themselves do to everyone else - be all smiles and good diplomatic relations in public, but fund terror NGOs in private

You just gotta love the Chinese

China, Iran upgrade ties to carry forward millennia-old friendship



There's no other country who says friendship with Saudi king and Iranian PM back to back.

Ofcourse we all know that their only friend is money and cheap oil, but still ...


Back to Yemen

Garage sniper at work:



Saudis are falling like ducks apparently from these barrels ...

http://presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/23/447000/Yemen-Saudi-soldiers-Jizan/

Kadmos45 wrote:You just gotta love the Chinese

China, Iran upgrade ties to carry forward millennia-old friendship

There's no other country who says friendship with Saudi king and Iranian PM back to back.

Ofcourse we all know that their only friend is money and cheap oil, but still ...

With old friendship i actually true - Silk Road both nations are business oriented and both understand the value of trade relations. As for Chinese I am not necessarily in love with them but at the moment they are to busy developing economy to make wars wit Saudis or Iranians

Kadmos45 wrote:
Back to Yemen

Garage sniper at work:



Saudis are falling like ducks apparently from these barrels ...

http://presstv.com/Detail/2016/01/23/447000/Yemen-Saudi-soldiers-Jizan/

technically parts are falling, after hit of 14,5mm round not much is left anyway.

This should be marketed: proven with aggressor scum since 1941

Allahu Akbar. #JeSuisFlipFlop

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Allahu Akbar. #JeSuisFlipFlop

Wow.

lol at the guy at the end that didn't want to get left behind.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

Allahu Akbar. #JeSuisFlipFlop

♪♫ "Give me a break...give me a break...break me off a piece of that Kit-Khat Ackbar!" ♫♪

Yeah I understand, it has got to be a record or something 3 IED's/Consecutive attacks. Yallah.

KoTeMoRe wrote:Yeah I understand, it has got to be a record or something 3 IED's/Consecutive attacks. Yallah.

Who were the targets?