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    Su-35S: News

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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 28, 2019 4:04 pm

    medo wrote:

    Hungary is a NATO member, so it is politicaly impossible to sell those MiGs to Russia, not to say Iran. Only option would be, if they sell them to Serbia or maybe to Macedonia, Montenegro or to Poland for spare parts.

    Yes they can sell it to Russia. And if not they still need russian agreement for selling them. Orban is a friend of russia he wouldn't care much about USA pressure.

    Russia can then sell them to Iran. Both are under sanctions so they don't really care about western opinion. Moreover defensive weapons are not forbiden and mig-29A is more an interceptor than a multirole fighter like sukhois.
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    Post  medo Sun Jul 28, 2019 8:49 pm

    Isos wrote:
    medo wrote:

    Hungary is a NATO member, so it is politicaly impossible to sell those MiGs to Russia, not to say Iran. Only option would be, if they sell them to Serbia or maybe to Macedonia, Montenegro or to Poland for spare parts.

    Yes they can sell it to Russia. And if not they still need russian agreement for selling them. Orban is a friend of russia he wouldn't care much about USA pressure.

    Russia can then sell them to Iran. Both are under sanctions so they don't really care about western opinion. Moreover defensive weapons are not forbiden and mig-29A is more an interceptor than a multirole fighter like sukhois.

    In theory yes, but in praksis they need apruval from both, Russia as MiGs are russian made planes and from NATO, because Hungary is a NATO member. Orban is friend of Russia, but Russia is under western sanctions and if Hungary sell those planes to Russia, US and EU will impose sanctions on Hungary, which is already not in realy good relations with EU. This is why those planes are still in Hungary.
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    Post  ATLASCUB Sun Jul 28, 2019 9:17 pm

    Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
    marat wrote:
    Isos wrote:Hungary offered some years ago 19 mig-29A/UB with 20 engines and shitload of spare parts and missiles for only 10 millions $. Russia should have bought it for Syria with a little upgrade. Payment could have been forgoten but giving russian companies the rights to rebuild Syria.

    Iran could be also interested since they also operate mig-29. 19 for 10 million $ and russia could have sold its own SMT for 30 million each (and use the money for another batch of 50 su-35), that would be 70 mig-29 quickly bought and used as they already have the pilots. Then introduce the mig-35 to replace US made f-5.

    How Syria would pay rebuilding?
    Iran is under UN sanctions for whos introduction Russian voted.

    Iran arm embargo ends on 18 october 2020. Before that date any arm supply must be approved separately and in advance by the UN security council.

    https://www.sipri.org/databases/embargoes/un_arms_embargoes/iran


    Furthermore, all states are allowed to participate in the supply of major conventional arms as defined by the UN Register of Conventional Weapons and related components and services to Iran provided that the Security Council decides in advance on a case-by-case basis to approve such supplies. This provision will be lifted five years after the JCPOA Adoption Day, i.e. on 18 october 2020. The embargo on the export from Iran of all arms and related materials will remain in place until 5 years after the JCPOA Adoption Day. Different from other UN embargoes where arms can be supplied to governments if advance approval has been received from the relevant Sanction Committee, for the sanctions on Iran it is the Security Council that has to give approval.
    Since for sure US and Britain will vote against any supply from Russia to Iran before the end of the embargo, Russia and Iran could discuss informally and without any public announcement the supply beforehand, and sign the contracts and start the deliveries at the same time on the 18 October 2020.

    Iran can output 1.5 -2 million barrels of oil easily. It's pumping 500k "reported"... probably more but not significantly more. They can pay with oil alone.

    The problem is the sanctions - which Russia knowingly signed on to - Putin's political games with the Saudi's, Bibi and the Anglo's (concessions for short) + some sound strategic considerations.

    The Iranians badly need fighter aircraft, heli's and, at the very least, parts and refurbishment for its 3 kilos. More point air defense as well.
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    Post  dino00 Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:30 pm

    Turned over Tverskaya: the western direction will be strengthened by the Su-35

    At the air base in Khotilovo, a squadron of 4 ++ generation fighters will appear

    https://iz.ru/909262/aleksei-kozachenko-aleksei-ramm/razvernulis-nad-tverskoi-zapadnoe-napravlenie-usiliat-su-35
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Aug 27, 2019 11:04 am

    Wow  Smile ...Su-35 armed with R-37M (RVV-BD)
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    https://twitter.com/MuxelAero/status/1166236904938979329
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:13 am

    Su-35E in Turkey, Technofest technology festival 2019

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:29 am


    So they sent a Su-35 to Turkey and it just happens to be one with sortie marks he racked up in Syria?

    And they say Russian Military doesn't have sense of humor... lol1


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    Post  GarryB Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:45 am

    NATO officers liked to fly in to Kosovo and stay for a weekend to get their combat ribbon for the region.... nothing really very new.
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    Post  Austin Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:37 pm

    Interview with Chief designer of the Su-35, Igor Demin

    http://www.nationaldefense.ru/includes/periodics/authors/2019/0828/124127434/detail.shtml
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    Post  Isos Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:05 pm

    Austin wrote:Interview with Chief designer of the Su-35, Igor Demin

    http://www.nationaldefense.ru/includes/periodics/authors/2019/0828/124127434/detail.shtml

    He says f-22 can track a mig-21 (3-5 m2) at 200-250km. Some here were saying 160km max range. Is it a proof for you guys that you were wrong  ?

    Back to the topic he says, if my google translation is good, removing the pitot tube created some static electrocity issues inside the noze around the radar.
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    Post  franco Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:11 pm

    Apparently another 3 Su-35's have been delivered to the VKS and are on their way or have arrived at T'ver.
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    Post  dino00 Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:01 pm

    "Russian Knights" will receive the Su-35S, a source confirmed

    https://ria.ru/20191102/1560516166.html

    "On November 7, a solemn ceremony will be held at the Kubinka airfield to meet the four newest Su-35S multipurpose aircraft, which are being put into service with the squadron of the Russian Vityazi aerobatic team, the Russian Defense Ministry said.

    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=520966&lang=RU
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    Post  George1 Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:33 am

    The Aviation Enterprise in Komsomolsk-on-Amur in the Khabarovsk Region in the Russian Far East has fulfilled its defense procurement plan for generation 4++ Su-35S fighter jets this year and delivered a batch of 10 fighters to Russia’s Aerospace Force ahead of schedule, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko said on Friday.

    https://tass.com/defense/1087696
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    Post  ult Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:49 am

    4 Su-35S for Russian Knights.

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    Post  George1 Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:59 am

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    Post  George1 Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:32 pm

    The Su-35S fighter (tail number "64 red") from the Russian Air Force group in Syria accompanies the presidential plane Il-96-300PU (M1) during a visit to Syria by Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian Minister of Defense Sergei Shoigu.

    Snapshot January 7, 2020.
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    Post  Austin Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:27 pm

    Even Higher: Su-35S

    http://theboresight.blogspot.com/2017/07/even-higher-su-35s.html

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    Post  dino00 Wed Apr 01, 2020 10:25 pm

    Test flights of Su-35 fighters with ultra-long-range R-37M air-to-air missiles (also known as RVV-BD) have begun, sources in the military-industrial complex told Izvestia.

    Test launches are expected by the end of this year


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    https://iz.ru/991422/anton-lavrov-bogdan-stepovoi/chetyre-s-pliusom-su-35-vooruzhili-giperzvukovoi-raketoi
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    Post  GarryB Thu Apr 02, 2020 4:18 am

    This is important not because they will now be shooting down HATO fighters at 300km+ range, but because any modern air power relies on command and control to coordinate their forces and the core of command and control within HATO forces is their command and control and communications platforms... ie AWACS, but also JSTARS and inflight refuelling aircraft too... all being rather large aircraft that could be detected at extended ranges and engaged to eliminate from the battlespace.

    Performance of any group of aircraft dramatically drops when the AWACS platform monitoring the airspace for them and finding targets and assigning the targets to aircraft is suddenly silent...
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    Post  Austin Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:02 pm

    The Russian answer to "stealth": the story of the latest fighter of the Russian VKS

    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/201802191645-ybbo.htm
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    Post  andalusia Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:46 am

    What do you guys think of this article, is there any truth to it? https://hushkit.net/2016/03/17/su-35-versus-typhoon-analysis-from-rusis-justin-bronk/
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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:12 am

    andalusia wrote:What do you guys think of this article, is there any truth to it? https://hushkit.net/2016/03/17/su-35-versus-typhoon-analysis-from-rusis-justin-bronk/

    No need to read it. Its a guy called Justin writing for a Nato think thank. It's biased.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:55 pm

    Isos wrote:
    andalusia wrote:What do you guys think of this article, is there any truth to it? https://hushkit.net/2016/03/17/su-35-versus-typhoon-analysis-from-rusis-justin-bronk/

    No need to read it. Its a guy called Justin writing for a Nato think thank. It's biased.

    Yeap. Somebody with no experience flying it, no full technical breakdown or understanding of it, nor engineering background of aerospace knowledge.

    So what does his opinion matter on anything?
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    Post  Isos Tue Apr 14, 2020 3:21 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    andalusia wrote:What do you guys think of this article, is there any truth to it? https://hushkit.net/2016/03/17/su-35-versus-typhoon-analysis-from-rusis-justin-bronk/

    No need to read it. Its a guy called Justin writing for a Nato think thank. It's biased.

    Yeap.  Somebody with no experience flying it, no full technical breakdown or understanding of it, nor engineering background of aerospace knowledge.

    So what does his opinion matter on anything?

    Well we must admit he was smart enough to make a stupid NATO general/politician pay thousands of dollars for such rubish paper.

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