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https://www.hydroteh.ru/articles/_krupnejshij_v_rossii_suhoj_dok_stroitsja_s_operezheniem_srokov_93/
Russia's largest dry dock is under construction ahead of schedule
A dry dock on the territory of the Zvezda shipbuilding complex is a structure with a bottom mark below the water level in the water area, separated from the water area by a watertight gate - a bathoport. In the dock chamber, the assembly of ship blocks is carried out for the complete assembly of ships using a gantry crane with a lifting capacity of 1200 tons. The blocks are prepared in advance at the pre-assembly site. After the completion of the assembly of the vessel for its withdrawal, the dry dock is filled with seawater. When the water level in the dock is equal to the water area, the bathoport is retracted, opening the entrance, and the ship leaves the dock. The final completion and equipment of ships can be carried out at the outfitting quays located next to the dock. In addition, within the framework of the contract, in accordance with the technological solutions for the use of the dry dock, provision is made for installation of dock intermediate gates at two locations. This decision is explained by the fact that in the rear part of the dock, construction of half of the hull of the new generation LK-120 vessel and the simultaneous construction of the complete hull of the LNG tanker at the head of the dock is ensured. The second position of the intermediate gate is provided to ensure the simultaneous construction of the hull of the new generation vessel LK-120 and the construction of the full hull of the Aframax tanker at the head. The dock chamber is filled by gravity, emptying - using pumps. The second position of the intermediate gate is provided to ensure the simultaneous construction of the hull of the new generation vessel LK-120 and the construction of the full hull of the Aframax tanker at the head. The dock chamber is filled by gravity, emptying - using pumps. The second position of the intermediate gate is provided to ensure the simultaneous construction of the hull of the new generation vessel LK-120 and the construction of the full hull of the Aframax tanker at the head. The dock chamber is filled by gravity, emptying - using pumps.
The dry dock is a reinforced concrete chamber, separated from the sea by a gate and consisting of walls, a bottom, intermediate gates and a ramp for the exit to the dock. Outside the dry dock, there are pre-assembly areas, berths for unloading heavy loads, materials and equipment. All areas around the dock and along the quays have a solid reinforced concrete pavement. Dry dock parameters: length 485 m, width 114 m, depth 14 m.
The main structural elements of a dry dock are: a chamber, a sill, a pumping station, a western abutment, a working gate (batoport), crane runways, lifting and transport equipment, power and pumping equipment, drainage networks and equipment, mooring and fender equipment for input / output, centering and landing of ships, support devices, engineering networks.
The dry dock chamber consists of wall sections, a bottom, a head part, including a threshold and abutment, a pumping station room, service galleries, access roads, gantry crane tracks and outfitting cranes.
As of January 2020, the following types of work have been completed on the construction of the dry dock:
• filling of the bulkhead;
• IZU device;
• installation of bored piles: walls and bottom, abutment and threshold of dry dock, main pumping station;
• filling the rear of the dry dock;
• installation of bored piles for service galleries;
• construction of a dry dock pit.
Currently, during the construction of the dry dock, concreting works are being carried out:
• east and west walls;
• bottoms;
• threshold and dock abutment;
• ramps;
• main pumping station.
At the same time, work is underway to build a pre-dock site, outfitting embankments No. 2, 3. It is planned that in 2020 the construction of a dry dock will be completed.
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Passenger ferry Pavel Leonov has been delivered, will operate in Sakhalin
https://www.aoosk.ru/press-center/news/nevskiy-ssz-peredal-zakazchiku-parom-pavel-leonov/
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Krasnoe Sarmovo shipyard launched ''God-knows which'' dry cargo carrier and has signed orders for 11 more
https://sudostroenie.info/novosti/33345.html
https://gtlk.ru/press_room/news/gtlk-finans-i-krasnoe-sormovo-podpisali-kontrakt-na-stroitelstvo-11-sukhogruzov-/
I am just posting this as periodic reminder, it's pointless to try and keep track of these things because they launch new one every couple of weeks, they are building them faster than speedboats, it's crazy
5 Ecocruiser electric catamarans ordered from Empirium Shipyard in St. Petersburg
https://tehnorussia.ru/archives/4952?amp=1
Another fishing trawler (Captain Yunak) is laid down in St. Peterburg Admiralski Verf
https://sudostroenie.info/novosti/33363.html
Another case of too many to keep track of...
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https://splash247.com/novatek-details-gas-carrier-fleet-expansion-plans/
Novatek, the largest independent natural gas producer in Russia, has announced that it will be expanding its fleet of gas carriers to 65 vessels by 2026, four times its current fleet size.
The announcement was made on the final day of the Saint-Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF).
Yevgeny Ambrosov, Novatek’s director of maritime operations, shipping and logistics, commented: “In terms of number, the fleet of Qatar is probably larger, but in terms of value, sophistication and capabilities, Novatek’s fleet will be the most powerful one”.
Ambrosov added that the bulk of the new vessels will be built in Russia. The Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex at Bolshoy Kamen will be a major beneficiary of the fleet expansion plans.
Novatek entered the global LNG market in 2017 by successfully launching the Yamal LNG project. The export terminal is based in Russia’s Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Region which currently accounts for 15% of the world’s gas production.
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PapaDragon wrote:
I am just posting this as periodic reminder, it's pointless to try and keep track of these things because they launch new one every couple of weeks, they are building them faster than speedboats, it's crazy
If that helps, there are about 35 delivered, with another 15 or so in production. If we add up the new 11, that makes a number already ...
Production split at 3 yards, which adds up to the discussion in 22350 thread.
And let's keep in mind, that those are quite potent, big vessels, with 140m length and 8000+t dwt.
What that tells us, is the overall condition of the Russian economy as a whole.
You don't need +/- 20 brand new, 8kt dry cargo vessels yearly just for fun.
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1. On June 1, at the Vympel shipyard, the ceremony of launching the naval armament transport project 20360M factory No. 01551 "Gennady Dmitriev"was held.
2. The cargo ship "Alpha Hermes" became the 28th motor ship of the RSD59 project, which descended from the slipway of the "Red Sormovo". Sormovskaya Shipyard took the first place among Russian shipbuilding enterprises in terms of the number of dry cargo ships built for this project.
The cargo ship is the eighth of nine vessels being built for the transport company Alfa LLC by order of PJSC GTLK. In May, the shipyard won a tender for the right to conclude a contract for the construction of a new series of 11 bulk carriers of the RSD59 project. These vessels are planned to be delivered to the customer by the end of 2022. At the moment, the construction cycle of RSD59 is six months from the moment of laying the ship to the moment of delivery to the customer.
3. The Russian shipbuilding and shipbuilding market grew by 67% in value in 2020, to 230 billion rubles. The total tonnage increased by 59%, to 542 thousand tons. In total, 94 vessels (with a tonnage of more than 50 tons) were delivered to customers in 2020, and about 90 small vessels and boats (with a tonnage of less than 50 tons) were built.
4. St. Petersburg "Baltic Plant", whose specialists are building a series of nuclear icebreakers pr. 22220, has planned to modernize production processes and capacities, which will reduce the construction time of one icebreaker of this project by two years – up to 4.5 years from the current 6.5 years.
5. 04.06.2021: The company "Livadia Repair and Shipbuilding Plant" launched a car-passenger ferry of project 03770, which is being built according to the project of "Forss Technologies" LLC."
6. 03.06.2021: At the Lotos production site of the Southern Shipbuilding and Ship Repair Center, the first block of the central part of the support base of the ice-resistant stationary platform LSP "A" was launched.
According to the press service of the USC, the construction is being carried out under the investment project of PJSC Gazprom for the development of the Kamennomysskoye-More gas field. The central part of the support base of the LSP consists of 11 blocks, which are a steel three-dimensional structure.
7. On June 5, the Admiralty Shipyards laid a large freezing fishing trawler of the project ST-192 "Captain Yunak", it was reported Sudostroenie.info in the press service of the company. The vessel is the fifth in a series under construction under the investment quota mechanism, commissioned by the Russian Fishing Company (RRPC).
The ship is named in honor of the honored veteran of the industry, a hereditary sailor, a former employee of the RRPC Vladimir Mikhailovich Yunak (1948-2008).
...The period is only one week.
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Almost like the Russians do know how to make ships...
Nice.
Good to hear.
So if 65 is four times their current fleet size that means their current fleet size is about 16 ships so having 65 vessels by 2026 means they are going to need to have about 50 ships built....
And this is for one natural gas producer in Russia (though admittedly the largest independent one).
That is an enormous capacity to ship product around the world right there...
Novatek, the largest independent natural gas producer in Russia, has announced that it will be expanding its fleet of gas carriers to 65 vessels by 2026, four times its current fleet size
Nice.
Ambrosov added that the bulk of the new vessels will be built in Russia. The Zvezda Shipbuilding Complex at Bolshoy Kamen will be a major beneficiary of the fleet expansion plans.
Good to hear.
So if 65 is four times their current fleet size that means their current fleet size is about 16 ships so having 65 vessels by 2026 means they are going to need to have about 50 ships built....
And this is for one natural gas producer in Russia (though admittedly the largest independent one).
That is an enormous capacity to ship product around the world right there...
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That is an enormous capacity to ship product around the world right there...
Zvezda alone will possess a bigger capacity than the whole Soviet one, including big yards in Ukraine SSR.
In its final shape, will be able to process 330 000 tons of steel each year.
Now it is 250 000 or so and is more than whole Russian potential other than Zvezda combined.
Not to mention that today's effectiveness is much better than it was back in soviet times.
If we add the fact, that procedures&staff training is being made with Koreans, who are absolute masters of shipbuilding, that makes this shipyard a true monster.
Its technical potential will be compared to Daewoo and Samsung yards in Korea, and those two are real beasts.
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ALAMO wrote:GarryB wrote:
That is an enormous capacity to ship product around the world right there...
Zvezda alone will possess a bigger capacity than the whole Soviet one, including big yards in Ukraine SSR.
In its final shape, will be able to process 330 000 tons of steel each year.
Now it is 250 000 or so and is more than whole Russian potential other than Zvezda combined.
Not to mention that today's effectiveness is much better than it was back in soviet times.
If we add the fact, that procedures&staff training is being made with Koreans, who are absolute masters of shipbuilding, that makes this shipyard a true monster.
Its technical potential will be compared to Daewoo and Samsung yards in Korea, and those two are real beasts.
Awesome!
Maybe I am a nostalgic, but I would like to see something similar done in Nikolaev, after it will be not anymore part of country 404.
After all some of the yards over there were among the first of the Russian empire.
Of course it is not something to be done in hurry, and in the meanwhile there are a lot of work to be done on the existing yards and infrastructures inside current Russian territory.
And maybe a few lessons from the work in Zvezda could be applied there as well.
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Zvezda is likely to build a new Russian aircraft carrier in the future.
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And maybe a few lessons from the work in Zvezda could be applied there as well.
The question is if the new shipyard complex is even needed
Even if, and that decision would be on my desk, I would opt for an open sea shipyard any moment.
404s industrial base is an overall mess, it would take more assets to repair it rather than build new ones.
Sure the Baltic and the Black Sea cluster have their historical roots, but now both are closed reservoirs surrounded by unfriendly states.
This was the logic behind Zvezda I guess.
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Exactly... the Ukraine is lost for now, and it is a waste of time and money thinking otherwise.
BTW when I posted:
I was actually referring to the 65 LNG tanker ships this company was producing that would presumably be distributing Russian gas energy products by 2026 around the world, but you are quite right that the capacity to also build such vessels and all the other contracts they will be taking on are impressive.
Being a person who recognises the value of air power when in a southern ocean a long way from friendly ground and land forces, I knew all along that the Zvezda yards were not an accident... you don't spend that sort of money or that sort of time to make a dozen fishing boats and a few corvettes.
It is a shipbuilding complex designed to create a fleet of civilian ships to trade with the world, and so of course it is also going to take a central part of building a new navy to keep that trading force safe and working around the world.
Not a world police, and not a colonial invasion support tool... if countries don't want to trade with Russia there are plenty of other countries that will.
BTW when I posted:
That is an enormous capacity to ship product around the world right there...
I was actually referring to the 65 LNG tanker ships this company was producing that would presumably be distributing Russian gas energy products by 2026 around the world, but you are quite right that the capacity to also build such vessels and all the other contracts they will be taking on are impressive.
Being a person who recognises the value of air power when in a southern ocean a long way from friendly ground and land forces, I knew all along that the Zvezda yards were not an accident... you don't spend that sort of money or that sort of time to make a dozen fishing boats and a few corvettes.
It is a shipbuilding complex designed to create a fleet of civilian ships to trade with the world, and so of course it is also going to take a central part of building a new navy to keep that trading force safe and working around the world.
Not a world police, and not a colonial invasion support tool... if countries don't want to trade with Russia there are plenty of other countries that will.
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That is a valid point we must keep in mind.
Of course that this yard will be able to build the biggest hulks like carriers, LHDs, or construct several pieces same time in the same dock.
This is something that the big shipyards can do.
When I was visiting the yard in St. Nazire, there were two corvettes on one slipway.
I remember that to this day, 20 years later, because the slipway itself was huge from my perspective.
Sam yard build a Jean Bart battleship, to give you a hint. Almost 250m ship.
They have an enormously long drydock, capable to host two ocean liners.
But those are dual-purpose, and we can clearly see what was the general concept of making the Zvezda cluster. Remember, who is the investor there, and who is securing the order pipeline. Those are the biggest Russian oil and gas companies. I remember reading an interview with Novatec CEO several years ago when they only started with the project. He said how it looked like to make a decision about that. They were simply told, that concerning the scope of orders in existing yards, the huge contracts they are planning need a new shipyard. And if they want to build ships in the desired volume there is no other way rather than build the yard by themselves
They have outstanding orders for about 60 ships right now, and it will be only increasing. This is a gigantic maritime facility, that will pull out tankers and offshore stuff in a streamline. Russia is now world's biggest shipyard for reason.
Of course that this yard will be able to build the biggest hulks like carriers, LHDs, or construct several pieces same time in the same dock.
This is something that the big shipyards can do.
When I was visiting the yard in St. Nazire, there were two corvettes on one slipway.
I remember that to this day, 20 years later, because the slipway itself was huge from my perspective.
Sam yard build a Jean Bart battleship, to give you a hint. Almost 250m ship.
They have an enormously long drydock, capable to host two ocean liners.
But those are dual-purpose, and we can clearly see what was the general concept of making the Zvezda cluster. Remember, who is the investor there, and who is securing the order pipeline. Those are the biggest Russian oil and gas companies. I remember reading an interview with Novatec CEO several years ago when they only started with the project. He said how it looked like to make a decision about that. They were simply told, that concerning the scope of orders in existing yards, the huge contracts they are planning need a new shipyard. And if they want to build ships in the desired volume there is no other way rather than build the yard by themselves
They have outstanding orders for about 60 ships right now, and it will be only increasing. This is a gigantic maritime facility, that will pull out tankers and offshore stuff in a streamline. Russia is now world's biggest shipyard for reason.
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http://www.scf-group.com/press_office/press_releases/item104877.html
Keel of pilot gas carrier "Sovcomflot" for Arctic LNG 2 was laid at SSK "Zvezda"
On June 15, 2021, a keel-laying ceremony for a new icebreaking gas carrier of the Sovcomflot Group of Companies (SCF) took place at the Zvezda shipbuilding complex (SSC) (Primorsky Territory).
This is a pilot vessel of the series, consisting of 15 gas carriers, ordered from SSK Zvezda to service the Arctic LNG 2 project, and the first vessel of such dimensions, cargo capacity and ice-moving characteristics, which is being built at a Russian shipyard.
The pilot gas carrier is owned by the Sovcomflot group, the remaining 14 vessels in the series are owned by SMART LNG, a joint venture between PAO Sovcomflot and PAO NOVATEK.
All vessels of the series will operate under long-term time-charter contracts with OOO Arctic LNG 2. Construction is financed by VEB.RF. All 15 gas carriers will operate under the state flag of the Russian Federation, construction is supervised by the Russian Maritime Register of Shipping (RS) in cooperation with Bureau Veritas (BV).
The delivery of ships is scheduled for 2023-2025. The keel-laying of the pilot vessel was carried out in accordance with the terms stipulated by the contract.
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Yantar and Zelenodolsk Shipyard received orders for new rescue vessels
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New Turkish-Built Dry Dock Will Not Solve Russia’s Deeper Shipbuilding Problems
Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 18 Issue: 95
By: Paul Goble
June 15, 2021 05:20 PM Age: 2 days
Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov at the PD-50 floating dock in Murmansk, which sank on October 30, 2018 (Source: TASS)
The problems plaguing Russia’s shipbuilding sector, both military and civilian, run so deep and widespread that even Moscow’s decision to award a contract to Turkey to build a giant floating dry dock in the Russian High North (The Barents Observer, June 15) will do relatively little to overcome them. However, the contract does represent a crack in the sanctions regime, which had been contributing to the decline in shipbuilding in Russia over the last seven years (Svobodnaya Pressa, May 7, 2018). Moscow’s decision to turn to a foreign supplier, in this case, is itself an indictment of its domestic shipbuilding industry, which has seen the number of vessels launched in recent years decline to new lows. Besides, the industry has suffered an increasing number of embarrassing disasters, including but not limited to wharves sinking, boats turning over in the yards, and the delivery of new ships whose shortcomings are quickly discovered (Meduza, March 30, 2021).
The Turkish KuzeyStar shipyard won the contract after a Russian-only competition failed: no Russian shipyard could meet Moscow’s requirements and price, and earlier hopes for a new shipyard in Russian-occupied Crimea collapsed (Kommersant, August 5, 2019). Turkey will build a floating dry dock with a 30,000-ton capacity, large enough to construct the new generation of icebreakers the Russian government plans to service the Northern Sea Route. (The only existing dock presently available in the Russian High North is too small to handle these new Arctic-ready craft.) The need for such a dock has been under discussion in Russia since 2015, but no Russian yard was capable of building it. Now, a Turkish one will replace an older Russian floating dock that ingloriously sank three years ago (Twitter.com/KovtunM, October 30, 2018; see EDM, November 1, 2018). The giant PD-50 floating dock’s demise has blocked both icebreaker construction and the refitting of other naval ships, including most of its larger vessels, since that time. The Turkish firm will be paid some $70 million for the work, and it is supposed to deliver the facility by next summer.
The Turkish dock may help Russian shipbuilding capabilities, but it will not solve the sector’s chronic, systemic problems. Three years ago, Russian officials acknowledged that Russian yards could not handle the construction of blue-water naval vessels and would concentrate on smaller shore-defense and search-and-rescue ones instead (see EDM, April 18, 2018). At the same time, Russian shipbuilders have tried to hide just how bad things are by even lying directly to President Vladimir Putin, journalists reported last year (Nezavisimaya Gazeta, August 7, 2020). But research by the Higher School of Economics in Moscow reveals some of the extent of the difficulties within the domestic shipbuilding sector (Dcenter.hse.ru, March 6, 2018; Iq.hse.ru, May 18, 2018; Thinktanks.by, June 22, 2018). That study found that while Russian yards produced 252 vessels larger than 20,000 tons in 2014, that number declined to only 108 in 2018, with planned production having been reduced to 79 in 2019. Actual production in both that year and during the COVID-19 pandemic year of 2020 was almost certainly smaller than that. The number may increase if the pandemic eases, but it is unlikely to reach 2014 levels anytime soon, even with the Turkish dry dock.
The Higher School of Economics study also found that the number of civilian ships fell at an even more rapid rate than that of military ones, a serious bottleneck considering Putin’s recent order that all vessels traversing the Northern Sea Route must, henceforth, be domestically manufactured and travel under the Russian flag. For now at least, that law seems unlikely to be enforced, and analysts are already pointing out the ways exceptions are certain to be granted. Yet if those loopholes become phased out, the sudden need for more home-built shipping vessels will mean that other shipbuilding projects will have to be postponed, including some widely publicized military projects, such as three (fanciful) new aircraft carriers (Kommersant, Moscow Echo, May 18; see EDM, March 11). Barring that, the amount of cargo carried on that route will likely decline (Military Review, June 5).
Russian analysts, like Konstantin Makiyenko of the Center for the Analysis of Strategy and Technology, say that Russia’s naval shipyards are a disaster, with money coming into them in ever-increasing amounts but nothing coming out. (Nuclear submarines are the only part of production that has not collapsed, he says). He blames this on the Kremlin’s decision to unify all shipbuilding into a single corporation and install corrupt and incompetent managers there (Nezavisimaya Gazeta, December 17, 2020). At present, Makiyenko writes, “practically all” shipbuilding projects are behind schedule and far over budget, with no one confident when deliveries will happen or what the costs of the finished product will be. Disturbingly for Moscow, the larger and the more important the vessel, the greater both of these problems have been.
The holding company the Kremlin established, the Unified Shipbuilding Corporation, keeps running up debts to the banks, and the government has no choice but to bail out the corporation. Still, most of the new money goes to servicing old debts rather than building anything new. The holding company was created to prevent this from happening; however, it remains, Makiyenko argues, “a collective farm of various factories” under its aegis but hardly under its control. The situation today, he argues, is more or less what it was 10–15 years ago, all government and corporation promises to the contrary. He concludes that the Unified Shipbuilding Corporation is likely “the most ineffective government corporation of those created as a result of the government’s ‘holding arrangements’ for the Russian military-industrial sector.” That it and Moscow have now had to turn to Turkey only underscores that sad reality.
Turkey’s construction of a new dry dock in the Russian High North will do nothing to address these underlying problems. Indeed, it may even allow the Russian yards to limp along, unreformed, for some time. But unless Moscow makes fundamental changes there—something Putin has given no sign of wanting to undertake—the decline of Russian shipbuilding will continue, possibly forcing Moscow to change its policies or buy ships constructed elsewhere. The latter is an expensive proposition financially and in propaganda terms. Nor is it a step Putin’s Russia appears ready to take.
Publication: Eurasia Daily Monitor Volume: 18 Issue: 95
By: Paul Goble
June 15, 2021 05:20 PM Age: 2 days
Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov at the PD-50 floating dock in Murmansk, which sank on October 30, 2018 (Source: TASS)
The problems plaguing Russia’s shipbuilding sector, both military and civilian, run so deep and widespread that even Moscow’s decision to award a contract to Turkey to build a giant floating dry dock in the Russian High North (The Barents Observer, June 15) will do relatively little to overcome them. However, the contract does represent a crack in the sanctions regime, which had been contributing to the decline in shipbuilding in Russia over the last seven years (Svobodnaya Pressa, May 7, 2018). Moscow’s decision to turn to a foreign supplier, in this case, is itself an indictment of its domestic shipbuilding industry, which has seen the number of vessels launched in recent years decline to new lows. Besides, the industry has suffered an increasing number of embarrassing disasters, including but not limited to wharves sinking, boats turning over in the yards, and the delivery of new ships whose shortcomings are quickly discovered (Meduza, March 30, 2021).
The Turkish KuzeyStar shipyard won the contract after a Russian-only competition failed: no Russian shipyard could meet Moscow’s requirements and price, and earlier hopes for a new shipyard in Russian-occupied Crimea collapsed (Kommersant, August 5, 2019). Turkey will build a floating dry dock with a 30,000-ton capacity, large enough to construct the new generation of icebreakers the Russian government plans to service the Northern Sea Route. (The only existing dock presently available in the Russian High North is too small to handle these new Arctic-ready craft.) The need for such a dock has been under discussion in Russia since 2015, but no Russian yard was capable of building it. Now, a Turkish one will replace an older Russian floating dock that ingloriously sank three years ago (Twitter.com/KovtunM, October 30, 2018; see EDM, November 1, 2018). The giant PD-50 floating dock’s demise has blocked both icebreaker construction and the refitting of other naval ships, including most of its larger vessels, since that time. The Turkish firm will be paid some $70 million for the work, and it is supposed to deliver the facility by next summer.
The Turkish dock may help Russian shipbuilding capabilities, but it will not solve the sector’s chronic, systemic problems. Three years ago, Russian officials acknowledged that Russian yards could not handle the construction of blue-water naval vessels and would concentrate on smaller shore-defense and search-and-rescue ones instead (see EDM, April 18, 2018). At the same time, Russian shipbuilders have tried to hide just how bad things are by even lying directly to President Vladimir Putin, journalists reported last year (Nezavisimaya Gazeta, August 7, 2020). But research by the Higher School of Economics in Moscow reveals some of the extent of the difficulties within the domestic shipbuilding sector (Dcenter.hse.ru, March 6, 2018; Iq.hse.ru, May 18, 2018; Thinktanks.by, June 22, 2018). That study found that while Russian yards produced 252 vessels larger than 20,000 tons in 2014, that number declined to only 108 in 2018, with planned production having been reduced to 79 in 2019. Actual production in both that year and during the COVID-19 pandemic year of 2020 was almost certainly smaller than that. The number may increase if the pandemic eases, but it is unlikely to reach 2014 levels anytime soon, even with the Turkish dry dock.
The Higher School of Economics study also found that the number of civilian ships fell at an even more rapid rate than that of military ones, a serious bottleneck considering Putin’s recent order that all vessels traversing the Northern Sea Route must, henceforth, be domestically manufactured and travel under the Russian flag. For now at least, that law seems unlikely to be enforced, and analysts are already pointing out the ways exceptions are certain to be granted. Yet if those loopholes become phased out, the sudden need for more home-built shipping vessels will mean that other shipbuilding projects will have to be postponed, including some widely publicized military projects, such as three (fanciful) new aircraft carriers (Kommersant, Moscow Echo, May 18; see EDM, March 11). Barring that, the amount of cargo carried on that route will likely decline (Military Review, June 5).
Russian analysts, like Konstantin Makiyenko of the Center for the Analysis of Strategy and Technology, say that Russia’s naval shipyards are a disaster, with money coming into them in ever-increasing amounts but nothing coming out. (Nuclear submarines are the only part of production that has not collapsed, he says). He blames this on the Kremlin’s decision to unify all shipbuilding into a single corporation and install corrupt and incompetent managers there (Nezavisimaya Gazeta, December 17, 2020). At present, Makiyenko writes, “practically all” shipbuilding projects are behind schedule and far over budget, with no one confident when deliveries will happen or what the costs of the finished product will be. Disturbingly for Moscow, the larger and the more important the vessel, the greater both of these problems have been.
The holding company the Kremlin established, the Unified Shipbuilding Corporation, keeps running up debts to the banks, and the government has no choice but to bail out the corporation. Still, most of the new money goes to servicing old debts rather than building anything new. The holding company was created to prevent this from happening; however, it remains, Makiyenko argues, “a collective farm of various factories” under its aegis but hardly under its control. The situation today, he argues, is more or less what it was 10–15 years ago, all government and corporation promises to the contrary. He concludes that the Unified Shipbuilding Corporation is likely “the most ineffective government corporation of those created as a result of the government’s ‘holding arrangements’ for the Russian military-industrial sector.” That it and Moscow have now had to turn to Turkey only underscores that sad reality.
Turkey’s construction of a new dry dock in the Russian High North will do nothing to address these underlying problems. Indeed, it may even allow the Russian yards to limp along, unreformed, for some time. But unless Moscow makes fundamental changes there—something Putin has given no sign of wanting to undertake—the decline of Russian shipbuilding will continue, possibly forcing Moscow to change its policies or buy ships constructed elsewhere. The latter is an expensive proposition financially and in propaganda terms. Nor is it a step Putin’s Russia appears ready to take.
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A cynical anti Russian article piece of crap... Russian ship builders can't handle making blue water ships... so the two helicopter carriers they are building in the 40,000 ton weight range are not ships... what are they exactly?
This piece of rubbish sounds like the whining we normally get from some members here... why are they not building super carriers... china can make super carriers... why not get china to make them some ships.
Russia gives contracts to foreign shipyards for non military projects when local companies are too busy.
I rather suspect there is not enough margin in building drydocks and the Russian shipyards probably looked at the ships they are building and the number of slipways that would be kept busy for this drydock and likely decided they didn't want the job.
It is a Jamestown article... an American thinktank that cannot say anything nice about Russia... and because if that it is very clear that Russia is doing rather better than they want to admit and they are clearly scared... excellent.
This piece of rubbish sounds like the whining we normally get from some members here... why are they not building super carriers... china can make super carriers... why not get china to make them some ships.
Russia gives contracts to foreign shipyards for non military projects when local companies are too busy.
I rather suspect there is not enough margin in building drydocks and the Russian shipyards probably looked at the ships they are building and the number of slipways that would be kept busy for this drydock and likely decided they didn't want the job.
It is a Jamestown article... an American thinktank that cannot say anything nice about Russia... and because if that it is very clear that Russia is doing rather better than they want to admit and they are clearly scared... excellent.
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Meanwhile the poor russian shipbuilding industry is pumping out AFRAMAX tankers, riverine freighters/tankers and fishing ships in ever growing numbers.
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On June 10, 2021, the Nizhny Novgorod plant Krasnoe Sormovo delivered its twenty — fourth multi-purpose dry cargo vessel of the RSD59 project with a deadweight of 8144 tons and the fourth vessel in a series of nine RSD59 vessels for the Alfa shipping company- "Viktor Andriukhin". This is reported by the press service of the Marine Engineering Bureau, which is the designer of the series.
A total of 37 vessels have been built, 15 are at different stages of construction, and contracts for the construction of 11 vessels have been signed.
A total of 37 vessels have been built, 15 are at different stages of construction, and contracts for the construction of 11 vessels have been signed.
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GarryB wrote: A cynical anti Russian article piece of crap... Russian ship builders can't handle making blue water ships... so the two helicopter carriers they are building in the 40,000 ton weight range are not ships... what are they exactly?
This piece of rubbish sounds like the whining we normally get from some members here... why are they not building super carriers... china can make super carriers... why not get china to make them some ships.
Russia gives contracts to foreign shipyards for non military projects when local companies are too busy.
I rather suspect there is not enough margin in building drydocks and the Russian shipyards probably looked at the ships they are building and the number of slipways that would be kept busy for this drydock and likely decided they didn't want the job.
It is a Jamestown article... an American thinktank that cannot say anything nice about Russia... and because if that it is very clear that Russia is doing rather better than they want to admit and they are clearly scared... excellent.
Troll TL delivers another turd to this forum.
American media culture on Russia is fully rotted with top to bottom fantasy projection nonsense. This results from the chauvinism that dominates the American
social mentality. Since they are supreme they do not care about what the little people are doing in their little countries. When it turns out those people and
their countries ain't so little, they have massive cognitive dissonance which they compensate for with fantasy projection. Since they have no real knowledge about
those countries this part is easy. There will always be some journalist or "analist" whore who will tell them what they want to hear.
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In Kamchatka, the keel of the small-tonnage fishing seiner project 04130 was laid.
This will be the first ship in the last few years to be built at the Kamchatka shipyards. The customer of the construction was the largest fishing enterprise of the Kamchatka Territory — the fishing collective farm named after Lenin. The seiner will be manufactured by the Kamchatka SPC "Torsiotest". The small-tonnage fishing seiner of Project 04130 will be the first of six similar MRS to be built on the peninsula.
This will be the first ship in the last few years to be built at the Kamchatka shipyards. The customer of the construction was the largest fishing enterprise of the Kamchatka Territory — the fishing collective farm named after Lenin. The seiner will be manufactured by the Kamchatka SPC "Torsiotest". The small-tonnage fishing seiner of Project 04130 will be the first of six similar MRS to be built on the peninsula.
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25.06.2021 In the city of Balakovo, Saratov region, the launch ceremony of the head hydrographic boat "Yuri Babaev" of the Ice class Ice 3 was held. The ceremony was held on the territory of the Balakovo Shipbuilding and Ship Repair Plant.
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GarryB wrote: A cynical anti Russian article piece of crap... Russian ship builders can't handle making blue water ships... so the two helicopter carriers they are building in the 40,000 ton weight range are not ships... what are they exactly?
This piece of rubbish sounds like the whining we normally get from some members here... why are they not building super carriers... china can make super carriers... why not get china to make them some ships.
Russia gives contracts to foreign shipyards for non military projects when local companies are too busy.
I rather suspect there is not enough margin in building drydocks and the Russian shipyards probably looked at the ships they are building and the number of slipways that would be kept busy for this drydock and likely decided they didn't want the job.
It is a Jamestown article... an American thinktank that cannot say anything nice about Russia... and because if that it is very clear that Russia is doing rather better than they want to admit and they are clearly scared... excellent.
I guess you are right...but somehow I dont see USA letting say Mexican or Brazilian companies get contracts for building stuff that is of national interest.
Because this dry dock is of national interest.
Wont get into the whole Turkey not being a reliable partner and actually being an adversery to Russia in many fields.
What will happen if this dry dock is somehow sabotaged by Turkey? Be it with significant delays or completing it with inferior materials or specifications... I thought after the Mistrals fiasco Russian have learned to build sensitive stuff on her own, but guess I was wrong.
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This is a civilized bribe, just the same as the Mistral deal used to be.
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