Where in Russia would you like to live?

If you were to relocate to Russia, where would it be?

My favorite areas:
1. Black Sea coast - Sochi or Novorossiysk.
2. Crimea - Sevastopol or Yalta, maybe Simferopol
3. Volga Delta.

I would never relocate to Mosvow/St Petersbur - first weather and second I hate big cities.

I have read that Kazan is a nice city. St. Petersburg is nice as well. Moscow? Probably too crowded.

I hate large cities, too large. So Moscow and St.Petersburg are out of the question for me. I will visit but not live. Krasnoyarsk seems to be more into what I am comfortable with. Large but not too large, looks quite beautiful, good warm summers and nice chilly winters (I am from Winnipeg Manitoba, so I can handle the cold quite well) and just overall looks pretty.

If I want something like Vancouver Island but warmer, Sochi it would be. I was looking at real-estate in Sochi a year ago and prices were far too high to live in for what I am willing to pay. So that was out of the question too.

Did you look only at prices in Sochi itself or also in nearby towns, (ie. Khosta, Progres, Izmaylovka, Lazarevskiy)? Land is cheaper in more inland areas... less tourists.

Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Did you look only at prices in Sochi itself or also in nearby towns, (ie. Khosta, Progres, Izmaylovka, Lazarevskiy)? Land is cheaper in more inland areas... less tourists.

It was mainly sochi itself. Some places were nice, but a million (IN USD) was too much.. lol

Tyumen seems a very nice city. Far from the biggest centers in Western Russia, it is not a small town (more than 500,000 inhabitants) and one of the richest in Russia due to the presence of many oil companies. It has an international airport, lots of leisure and entertainment places, and is in Siberia with all its natural beauties.

Firebird wrote:
And in the future, I think Vladivostock can become a great "Eastern capital".

I will be genuinely surprised if Vladivostok doesn't become one of the most developed cities in Russia. It sits at the intersection of some of the most dynamic economies in the world (China, Japan, South Korea) and joins them to the fast shipping route to Europe (Trans-Siberian railway) and is surrounded by vast natural resources they all require.

I think to a degree this is true for the entire pacific coast of Russia, if the transport infrastructures improves, especially southern Sakhalin and maybe even Magadan and Kamchatka. A "pacific highway" for road and rail along the coast from the Chinese/N.Kora/Russian border triange Sakhalin and Magadan, and maybe even on to Petropavlovsk could open up a wealth of opportunities for new trade routes, especially if the Sakhalin-mainland and Sakhalin-Hokkaido tunnels ever get built.

For instance, in years gone by, I'm sure Abkhazia was incredibly beautiful (yes I know its not part of the Ru Fedn...). Sadly it needs updating now.

I've been facinated by Abkhazia for years, and from what I've seen of photographs and articles, it looks breathtakingly beautiful. Personally I like the fact it's not over commercialised or just a concrete jungle, though I wish the people there received greater aid from friendly countires to rebuild their existing infrastructure to make daily life easier/better. But an ideal world, a holiday home in a quiet but recovered Sokhumi would be a nice way to live.

Kaliningrad... nothing trumps safety.

Izhevsk or Perm.

sevastopol crimea.

vladivostok, primorsky krai is beautiful and of course other areas crimea included but vladivostok #1

NationalRus wrote:vladivostok, primorsky krai is beautiful and of course other areas crimea included but vladivostok #1

It sure looks like a beautiful city. And doing business there will be even easier now thanks to the free port title.

Does anywhere have beautiful unmarried girls ?

Married beautiful women are still fine, though.

Karelia , somewhere near lake, or in my homeland Far East.
Big cities is good when you are young.

GarryB wrote:It sure looks like a beautiful city.  And doing business there will be even easier now thanks to the free port title.

If you can see, it is covered by fog half the year and overrun by Chinese.  Free port just makes it that much easier for them to influence the area.

somewhere on volga but south, volgograd or astrakhan.

Vladimir79 wrote:

GarryB wrote:It sure looks like a beautiful city.  And doing business there will be even easier now thanks to the free port title.

If you can see, it is covered by fog half the year and overrun by Chinese.  Free port just makes it that much easier for them to influence the area.

sounds like san francisco except its overrun by blacks.

Vladimir79 wrote:Kaliningrad... nothing trumps safety.

You mean Kalinigrad is more safe than either Moscow or St Petersburg? Why? Honest question.

Vladimir79 wrote:

GarryB wrote:It sure looks like a beautiful city.  And doing business there will be even easier now thanks to the free port title.

If you can see, it is covered by fog half the year and overrun by Chinese.  Free port just makes it that much easier for them to influence the area.

Nah, it wont give them much influence over it.  Just means easier trade and may influence other countries to partake.

And your comment sounds a lot like vancouver.  But I bet you we got way more Chinese there than you have in vladivostok.  I lived in Vancouver for quite a while and I do miss the look.  I like rain and fog and such.  I also do indeed like sun but hey, it is what I am more used to.

Is property expensive in Vladovstok? I cant seem to find many decent links.

jhelb wrote:

You mean Kalinigrad is more safe than either Moscow or St Petersburg? Why? Honest question.

It is much smaller, it is more secluded with very few people coming and going.   There is only one crime boss who has no competition so few turf wars wage on.  Smuggling rings are left to the port areas. Everything is cheaper, especially narcotics and alcohol so the addicts don't have to rob you to feed their addiction.  Prostitution is rampant with an army of escorts to pleasure every desire for pennies.  The militsiya and administration are corrupt like everywhere else but they stay in the system for life so bribes have long lasting effects.  Everything changes in the big city and you never know what is what, in Kaliningrad it all stays the same like a rotting oyster lost in time.

Crimea, Russia. I had family living over there and my ancestors originate from Crimea, And eastern Ukraine. I would love to one day live there.

sepheronx wrote:
Nah, it wont give them much influence over it.  Just means easier trade and may influence other countries to partake.

And your comment sounds a lot like vancouver.  But I bet you we got way more Chinese there than you have in vladivostok.  I lived in Vancouver for quite a while and I do miss the look.  I like rain and fog and such.  I also do indeed like sun but hey, it is what I am more used to.

Is property expensive in Vladovstok? I cant seem to find many decent links.

The Chinese have all the money there.  They are the ones opening up businesses and selling their crap so our stuff suddenly becomes too expensive.  They are leasing much of the commercial and farm land in the region.  Not even Russian crime rings can compete with the bribes of the Triads.  For the day they roll over the border they will be walking into another Chinese province.  They say the Chinese there are temporary, but possession is 9/10ths of the law.  I have never been to Vancouver but I assume it is similar in geography. Property prices are usually more expensive as the utility hookups are through the roof.

Sounds much the same.  You got also Chinese Mafia operating here (they are huge involved in human trafficing) and the Sikh gangs as well but more secluded to Surry BC which is just outside of Vancouver proper.

Housing is roughly average about $800,000 which is not affordable to anyone excluding these wealthy foreigners.

Vladivostok has smaller population and as well, much smaller chinese population.  And yeah, I imagine that if they are the ones opening up business, they will do well.  The Russian citizens should have done it.  Any other mob groups will still keep in check, but just means more competition to them and good, I hope they off each other.

They wont take over, that is simple propaganda.  The majority is still Russian and they wont take kindly to over populating. And they are temporary, even if it is 10 years (we got visas for that long).  And if they pass the new laws on immigration, then all the power to them.  How many Chinese live in the city that consists of Russians, Koreans, Uzbeks, etc?

sepheronx wrote:Sounds much the same.  You got also Chinese Mafia operating here (they are huge involved in human trafficing) and the Sikh gangs as well but more secluded to Surry BC which is just outside of Vancouver proper.

Housing is roughly average about $800,000 which is not affordable to anyone excluding these wealthy foreigners.

Vladivostok has smaller population and as well, much smaller chinese population.  And yeah, I imagine that if they are the ones opening up business, they will do well.  The Russian citizens should have done it.  Any other mob groups will still keep in check, but just means more competition to them and good, I hope they off each other.

They wont take over, that is simple propaganda.  The majority is still Russian and they wont take kindly to over populating. And they are temporary, even if it is 10 years (we got visas for that long).  And if they pass the new laws on immigration, then all the power to them.

The Chinese there are not counted on the census. It is about 60/40 today and the security forces do not have the resources to effect it. If they target the wrong Chinese then the Triad makes them disappear. Most will turn a blind eye with a bribe. It isn't propaganda, it is reality on the ground. The government is either unwilling or unable to support the population of the Far East and have left it to the Chinese to run the economy as long as they pay their rent.