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    Syrian Civil War: News #6

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    Post  Erk Mon Feb 15, 2016 7:33 pm





    Turkey 3rd. day of shelling Syria.

    Doesn't seem like much reaction from Damascus or Moscow. Almost meaningless complaint to the UN, that's about it.
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    Post  Guest Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:31 pm

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    What appears to be pic take inside turkish T155.

    On shell they wrote: "For our martyrs that have fallen in Sur and Cizre, may God rest your souls''
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    Post  Erk Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:15 pm

    So how is Syria going to stop the Turks shelling them?

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:45 pm

    short_fuze wrote:FWIW a CNN report from somewhere on the Syrian Arab Forces front line. According to the reporter, the Syrian commander was not allowed to speak to him, but made a local civilian stand in for him. The reporter also finished with a statement that the SAA hoped to reach Raqqa by the end of the year! I don't there will be much problem meeting that target!  Laughing


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    In the camera lens got and the technique presumably Russian contingent of the towed 152-mm howitzers "Msta-B" (three), tanks T-90A (one), an artillery tractor on KAMAZ-6350 (8x8) (three), ordinary on-Board KAMAZ-43114 (6x6) (three), the URAL-4320 (one), BTR-82A (at least two), the UAZ-3163 "Patriot" and UAZ-23632 "Pickup" (one), the Mi-8AMTSH with two blocks NAR B-8В20А. Noteworthy that the position of the Russian guns is protected under various forces - tanks T-90 and BTR-82, along with the Syrian BMP-1 and 57-mm self-propelled anti-aircraft guns C-60 on a truck chassis.
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    Post  ultron Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:48 pm

    Erk wrote:So how is Syria going to stop the Turks shelling them?


    by using artillery
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:51 pm

    Erk wrote:..............

    Turkey 3rd. day of shelling Syria.

    Doesn't seem like much reaction from Damascus or Moscow. Almost meaningless complaint to the UN, that's about it.

    And Kurds are still on a roll taking more land by the hour with VKS CAS. Reaction enough by any standard.


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    Post  Erk Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:56 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Erk wrote:..............

    Turkey 3rd. day of shelling Syria.

    Doesn't seem like much reaction from Damascus or Moscow. Almost meaningless complaint to the UN, that's about it.

    And Kurds are still on a roll taking more land by the hour with RuAF CAS. Reaction enough by any standard.

    So what you are saying is the the Turkish shelling isn't important?

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:01 pm

    Erk wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Erk wrote:..............

    Turkey 3rd. day of shelling Syria.

    Doesn't seem like much reaction from Damascus or Moscow. Almost meaningless complaint to the UN, that's about it.

    And Kurds are still on a roll taking more land by the hour with RuAF CAS. Reaction enough by any standard.

    So what you are saying is the the Turkish shelling isn't important?


    It is Kurdish problem, they want Rojava, they can have it if they earn it. Turks do not have the balls to go into Syria because they are dead if they do. They can whine and lash out but that is it.

    And it is a good reminder for Kurds that they need to pick their allies carefully because for USA turkey>Kurds.

    Syrian Federation with Republic of Rojava inside it, here we come. thumbsup
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    Post  short_fuze Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:10 pm

    One for the weapon id. specialists. What is the weapon held by the man on the right of this group of SAA troops? It looks pretty old to me (but what do I know - nothing!)

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    Post  VladimirSahin Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:12 pm

    short_fuze wrote:One for the weapon id. specialists. What is the weapon held by the man on the right of this group of SAA troops? It looks pretty old to me (but what do I know - nothing!)

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    Post  short_fuze Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:17 pm

    VladimirSahin wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:One for the weapon id. specialists. What is the weapon held by the man on the right of this group of SAA troops? It looks pretty old to me (but what do I know - nothing!)

    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 22 CbL5QopWEAE-A8k

    DP-28, Pretty old Very Happy

    WWII old? Laughing
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    Post  Guest Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:25 pm

    short_fuze wrote:
    VladimirSahin wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:One for the weapon id. specialists. What is the weapon held by the man on the right of this group of SAA troops? It looks pretty old to me (but what do I know - nothing!)

    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 22 CbL5QopWEAE-A8k

    DP-28, Pretty old Very Happy

    WWII old?  Laughing

    I would bet on post WW2 Chinese production Type 53.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:09 pm

    [quote="Dima"]

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    Looks at those maps people..

    Everything under red colored zones  are closed for Turkey supplies. And anything between
    red that is withing 5km distance too.. SO Aleppo main city center is closed ,and it have been for months already. What is left there is street fight house by house ,that the Syrian army is trying
    to avoid ,to see if the hunger and lack of food pressure the terrorist to agree to a deal to leave the city. This already happened in Homs ,terrorist without food ,and small supply saw no change to defeat the Syrian army agree to leave with the condition they allowed to move to another
    terrorist city.

    The interesting part is however Raqqa. It seems pretty difficult to supply raqqa
    from Turkey..because all major roads seems to be blocked.unless there are minor urban roads we not aware, So Turks sponsored terrorist will have to cross the Eufrates and create temporay bridges to supply Raqqa or go trough desert without roads and hard terrain to enter in Raqqa ,or else supply Terrorist through IRAQ border that is a very long route . Unless ofcourse Kurds betray Russia and Syria and allow Turkey supplies to
    ISIS to pass through its territory. This might look like impossible.. but already they were allowing ISIS oil trucks to do it. The desperation of Turkey and Saudi Arabia however suggest
    the assistance is over. And pretty much they need to reverse the gains of Syrian army and Russia or in a matter of a month or two ,their terrorist will be without supplies and without food.
    and very weakened to any fight. and from the south ,to the right Syrian army is advancing
    towards Raqqa ,withing 10km to 15km?  of totally close Raqqa city from the western open corridor . So if the Syrian army manage to reach that city ,it will pretty much will have a virtual same effect as closing  turkey border .. this is of course if Kurds do not betray Russia and Syria and allow supplies to enter through its yellow colored controlled territory.  So the advances toward raqqa is a real game changing because cut supplies to aleppo and Raqqa and possibly the oil trucks too.

    Once Syrian army reach Tabqa Air base is game over for supply routes from Turkey to Raqqa.
    It will also allow the Syrian army to be withing artillery range of Raqqa . Will be nice if Russia
    or IRAN deploy a couple of thousands airbone troops in Kurds zones to invade Raqqa from the east ,cutting also the supplies from Iraq.


    it even Allow the Syrian army to capture its oil fields too ,so not more oil for ISIS.


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    Post  KiloGolf Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:26 pm

    So by end of Monday...

    1. Ballah in Latakia [SAA]
    2. Tal Rifaat in N. Aleppo [YPG] + Misqan, Ahras [SAA]
    3. Aleppo Thermal Plant [SAA]

    Triple whammy+ tongue

    Ibrahim Joudeh ‏@Ibra_Joudeh  59 mins59 minutes ago
    Breaking :  #SAA #Tiger #Forces just entered #Aleppo Thermal Power Plant , #ISIS fled the area .

    Also one of these just landed in Latakia base:
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    http://theaviationist.com/?p=36854
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    Post  Guest Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:42 pm

    This has nothing to do with whole story, but i found this amusing, Serbians on Twitter and Facebook in spirit of latest Syrian/Russian advances started posting rewritten texts of old Serbian Epic songs (about our national and mythical heroes, wars with Turkey and Chetnik songs) to fit Syrian theatre, for actual Serbian its so funny. Especially due to fact that many our old songs have Turks as main villans, so it fits so great Very Happy

    "Oј,Асаде,мио брате,
    Сирије комаданте!
    Дижи војску,свети наше,
    код Алепа ђе несташе!"

    "Hey, Assad, our dear brother,
    Commander of Syria,
    Raise the army, lay revenge,
    For our brothers in Aleppo that perished"

    Or "У Алепу, у Алепу, синуће слобода!" - "In Aleppo, in Aleppo, freedom will shine again"

    "Nad Alepom živa vatra sjeva, da vidimo kog Turčina nema" - "Above alepo, bright fire is burning, lets see which Turks are gone"





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    Post  ultron Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:36 am

    KiloGolf wrote:So by end of Monday...

    1. Ballah in Latakia [SAA]
    2. Tal Rifaat in N. Aleppo [YPG] + Misqan, Ahras [SAA]
    3. Aleppo Thermal Plant [SAA]

    Triple whammy+ tongue

    also Kafr Naseh
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    Post  ultron Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:37 am

    Putin and Assad must stop Turkish shelling of Syrian territory. Make them stop!
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    Post  d_taddei2 Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:40 am

    the push on Latakia has kinda lost momentum if you consider how quick they gained ground after Salma was captured, now it seems they have slowly applying the same tactic on Kinsibba, i just wish they would hurry up and liberate the whole Latakia region so they can get to work on Jisr Shughur. Also just wish the eastern Aleppo cauldron could be finally sealed and ISIS finally boiled. Both have went on for too long, and i am also guessing the Palmyra offensive will now be put on hold due to the push towards Tabqa airbase. Problem is manpower and also the fact the RuAF are working round the clock and can't attack every front. Either more aircraft is needed and this doesnt have to be Russian, the Iranians could deploy some, and the other thing needed is more troops, its highly unlikely Russia will supply any so they have to come from Iran. Of course more equipment from Russia is also welcome, need some 2S1, 2S3, 2S5 Giatsint-S, 2S19 Msta, the first 3 Russia has loads of and could easily supply these, and and when they finally get to Tabqa airbase deploy some 2S7 pion and start shelling Al Raqqah the sheer power of this weapon along with destructive psychological effect would have ISIS crapping themselves.
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    Post  George1 Tue Feb 16, 2016 12:44 am

    ultron wrote:Putin and Assad must stop Turkish shelling of Syrian territory. Make them stop!

    what about Erdogan shelling in Syrian territory and invading northern iraq?
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:15 am


    Oh, what's all this then? Cool Razz

    ''Saudi Arabia and Turkey rolling back on rhetoric to send troops into Syria''

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-and-turkey-rolling-back-on-rhetoric-to-send-troops-into-syria-a6875156.html

    Well polish my nuts and serve me a milkshake, could it be that they have no balls and were just huffing and puffing all this time? lol1
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    Post  zg18 Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:17 am

    "Opposition" twitter accounts complain that Turkish artillery strikes are of low intensity and imprecise, ie can`t do jack sh*t to stop Kurdish advance.

    We will see, but this is perhaps Erdogans way to lose face with some grace.
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    Aftermath of TOW hit on Syrian state TV crew in Arra village.
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    Post  short_fuze Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:35 am

    Militarov wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:
    VladimirSahin wrote:
    short_fuze wrote:One for the weapon id. specialists. What is the weapon held by the man on the right of this group of SAA troops? It looks pretty old to me (but what do I know - nothing!)

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    DP-28, Pretty old Very Happy

    WWII old?  Laughing

    I would bet on post WW2 Chinese production Type 53.

    Very Happy

    I can just imagine him telling his wife, who has been naggging him for years to get rid of it - "I told you dad's gun would come in handy one day" Laughing
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    Post  wilhelm Tue Feb 16, 2016 8:42 am

    Erk wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Erk wrote:..............

    Turkey 3rd. day of shelling Syria.

    Doesn't seem like much reaction from Damascus or Moscow. Almost meaningless complaint to the UN, that's about it.

    And Kurds are still on a roll taking more land by the hour with RuAF CAS. Reaction enough by any standard.

    So what you are saying is the the Turkish shelling isn't important?


    The best medicine for Turkish shelling is to continue to do what is happening right now: Beat Turkeys terrorist proxies, secure Syrias border, and send all turkeys little proxies back over the border where these blood-thirsty terrorists can then lash out internally in Turkey for all anyone cares.
    That is everything Turkey doesn't want. Their worse-case scenario, the chickens coming home to roost.
    Once the borders are secure and if Turkey still fires artillery, then by all means respond, and wipe them out.

    Do not be deviated from the plan by relatively light cross-border shelling. Turkey is running out of options, so don't give them ammunition to go squealing like a street whore to her pimp.

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