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    Syrian Civil War: News #6

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:03 pm

    Kerry said that to stop the war in Syria only with Assad's removal


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160225/1380505756.html

    "If Assad remains, there is no way to stop the war," Kerry said at the hearings in the U.S. house of representatives.

    I am afraid that Turks/Saudis and US wants apiece of Iraq/Syria to breed terrorists. Also take away ones for CIS countries.
    Recall my words soon: The
    a) next step would be US says Assad has no more right to be legitimate president and
    b) anoncing that free world now believes that a new Syrian govet represnts Syria and it will reside now in Turkey or KSA
    c) an attack on new Syrian govt is an act of aggression and will be answered by US/NATO


    kvs wrote: So they think that Russia will not be able to blow these jets out of the sky?  Or do they expect to operate them over Syria under Uncle Scam's umbrella?

    I guess all the yapping about 150,000 Saudi troops was just so much hot air.

    Guess the problem is not technically shoot terrorists´fighter down but reaction on this of "free world". eU/Us would shout about Russian indiscriminate aggression, new sanctions, Then why not an attack on Donbass same time to outstretch Russian forces?

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    Post  max steel Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:22 pm

    Why the Arabs Don’t Want Us in Syria

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    Post  KoTeMoRe Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:13 pm

    https://twitter.com/RedRevolt1/status/702945665073160193

    Possible Iranian PGM use (the other possibility is Ataka although without the sound I can't say).
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    Post  Zivo Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:12 pm

    Khanasser:

    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 35 Ccffcn10

    I'm guessing within the next 48 hours ISIS gains will have been completely reversed and the SAA will begin taking territory. The ceasefire goes into effect Saturday morning. So when that rolls around, the SAA will be in position to push eastward from Hama > Al-Ithriyah > Raqqa without threat of attacks from the north Hama front.

    Just as at Al Safira, ISIS threw their forces into an open field trying to pick the low hanging fruit. I'm not sure if this is an intentional trap the Tiger forces have used twice now, or if the NDF are just inept, but if they can repeat the successes they had at Al Safira/Kweiris AB they will have a huge leg up on ISIS.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:41 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:............................................

    kvs wrote: So they think that Russia will not be able to blow these jets out of the sky?  Or do they expect to operate them over Syria under Uncle Scam's umbrella?

    I guess all the yapping about 150,000 Saudi troops was just so much hot air.

    Guess the problem is not technically shoot terrorists´fighter down but reaction on this of "free world".  eU/Us would shout about Russian indiscriminate aggression, new sanctions, Then why not an attack on Donbass same time to outstretch Russian forces?


    Even the Luftwaffe (are they still called like that?) can't take a peep without Sukhois tailing them 24/7, Arabs and Turks would be fried faster than a thin slice of bacon.  

    And overstretching Russia's Military would require 3x more guns than NATO arsenal and 2x the troops of Chinese army. Not happening...
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    Post  short_fuze Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:08 am

    The UN has run a 21 ton humanitarian aid drop to besieged Der ez Zor. I think you can guess the outcome. Most of the drops failed and those where the parachute system worked ended up in territory held by the takfiris.

    Wow, color me totally shocked and stunned.

    https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en.en/tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201602251906-n10d.htm

    The Russians manage to do the job properly and efficiently.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:20 am

    more ISIS scum killed in Deir ez zoir, nice pic on the story of what i am sure is 160mm mortars Very Happy a nice 40kg/90lb bomb the scumbags heads Twisted Evil

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-suffers-devastating-defeat-at-deir-ezzor-airport-30-terrorists-killed/
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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Feb 26, 2016 9:35 am

    Zivo wrote:Khanasser:

    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 35 Ccffcn10

    Basically another cauldron near Aleppo. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Feb 26, 2016 10:32 am

    archangelski wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg

    T-90 hit by TOW. Shtora is off though the turret machine gun fired (at the cameraman ???).
    Tanks seems to have withstood impact and a crew member escapes.

    Yeah just gave an impression on the other thread.

    TOW launch well within gunner enveloppe. HIts on the gunner position. Gunner gets out OK.
    5sec flight= 1200/1500m (flight speed 240m/sec) so the gunner shold have:

    1. Seen the threat.
    2. Neutralized the threat.
    3. The HMG which is on the TC controls, seemingly spotted the threat.

    Again, just bad idea to turn Shtora off and worst Idea to let the TC do the fighting.
    Tank looks OK and there's no aftermath. The TD is most probably still thinking WTF.

    Very lucky the turret was hit and the Moderats are illiterate because the damn hull was open for business.
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    Post  arpakola Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:18 am

    According to Dr. Jamil M. Shahin in Berlin - A total of 360 000 foreign fighters fought against the SAA.

    A portion of these fighters were killed, a portion's fate is unknown, a portion has returned to their country & a portion is still fighting.

    Saudi Arabia: 24500 Fighters - 5990 Killed - 2700 Fate Unknown - 19 Killed Were Women
    Turkey: 25800 Fighters - 5760 Killed - 380 Fate Unknown - Includes Turkmen, Grey Wolves & Turkish Military Personnel
    Chechnya: 21000 Fighters - 5230 Killed - 1920 Fate Unknown - 16 Killed Were Women
    Palestine: 14000 Fighters - 4920 Killed - 670 Fate Unknown  - Mostly From Palestinian Refugee Camps & the Gaza Strip
    Tunisia: 10500 Fighters - 4200 Killed - 1260 Fate Unknown - 45 (of the 10500) Are Women & Young Girls
    Libya: 9500 Fighters - 3940 Killed - 1650 Fate Unknown
    Iraq: 13000 Fighters - 3780 Killed - 1200 Fate Unknown - Includes Mujahedeen Khalq (Iranian Terrorist Organization) & Iraqis
    Lebanon: 11000 Fighters - 3110 Killed - 1080 Fate Unknown - 7 Killed Were Women & Some Fighters From Lebanon Are Palestinian
    Turkmenistan: 8600 Fighters - 3050 Killed - 900 Fate Unknown - 11 Killed Were Women
    Egypt: 7500 Fighters - 2100 Killed - 870 Fate Unknown
    Jordan: 3900 Fighters - 1990 Killed - 265 Fate Unknown - Jordanians or Palestinians
    Pakistan: 4600 Fighters - 1380 Killed - 590 Fate Unknown
    Afghanistan: 3600 Fighters - 1240 Killed - 650 Fate Unknown - Includes Afghan Arabs (Al Qaeeda mingled with the Taliban to breed retards)
    Yemen: 2800 Fighters - 1440 Killed - 700 Fate Unknown
    Kazakhstan: 2550 Fighters - 1130 Killed
    Uzbekistan: 2700 Fighters - 780 Killed - 380 Fate Unknown - 4 Killed Were Women
    Kuwait: 1900 Fighters - 640 Killed - 8 Fate Unknown
    Algeria: 1950 Fighters - 620 Killed - 44 Fate Unknown
    Morocco: 2100 Fighters - 610 Killed - 130 Fate Unknown - 7 Killed Were Women 

    This numbers is from 2011 to 2016

    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 35 CcGErgmXEAAm6HP

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    Ceasefire Agreement May Split Syrian Rebels
    Al Nusra and Ahrar ash-Sham have denounced the "cessation of hostilities" - now the rest of the rebel groups have to decide if they want to continue 'commingling' with them and share their fate

    http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34957-us-russian-ceasefire-pact-closer-to-a-syria-war-endgame
    The United States and Russia are hoping that the partial Syrian cease-fire agreement they reached Monday to take effect February 27 will begin a new phase of the war. The cease-fire will not apply to operations against al-Qaeda's franchise in Syria (al-Nusra Front), and the two powers have apparently agreed to try to split off a significant number of armed opposition groups from their cooperation with al-Nusra Front.

    Along with continued Russian, Syrian and Iranian operations against al-Nusra Front, that split could further weaken the al-Qaeda franchise and begin a process of winding down the war between the Assad regime and military forces other than ISIS.

    It is by no means certain that the US-Russian agreement will have that effect. The two powers, as co-chairs of the International Syria Support Group (ISSG) have said they have gotten the assent of their allies in the group as well as Russia's Syrian government ally. But Turkey and Saudi Arabia are known to be unhappy with US policy, and it is unclear whether they would seek to undermine the agreement by encouraging armed groups not to give up the fight.

    If the agreement does make any substantial progress toward that end, it will be a consequence of Russian and Syrian military success in threatening to cut the supply lines between the al-Nusra Front-led coalition of armed groups and the Turkish border. That success may be the only chance for ending the bloodletting in Syria, but it has come at a high price: A vastly increased tempo of airstrikes and some questionable targeting has caused a major increase in civilian casualties.

    The Russian-led offensive has also upended the calculation the Obama administration and its Sunni allies had made ever since 2013 that the opposition forces led by al-Nusra Front could tip the military balance against the Assad regime sufficiently to pressure President Bashar al-Assad himself to step down. So the Obama administration has now shifted its strategy to exploit the very Russian intervention it had initially attacked in the hope of moving a large part of the armed opposition from the battlefield to the negotiating table.

    Russia and the United States had long agreed that al-Nusra Front is a terrorist group that could not be part of a cease-fire agreement. But the Obama administration has refused in the past to acknowledge that armed groups that have gotten US arms have been fighting in coordination with al-Nusra Front. As recently as last week, Secretary of State John Kerry was demanding that Russia had to halt its strikes against what he called "legitimate opposition groups" or there would be no cease-fire. Kerry evidently dropped that stance, however, in negotiations with Moscow. A crucial feature of the agreement reached on Monday by Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov was to develop a joint US-Russian map of the actual location of al-Nusra Front forces and those of other armed organizations in northern Syria. The clear implication of that agreement is that any military organization operating within close proximity to al-Nusra Front troops is a fair target for Russian airstrikes.

    That much became clear in the State Department briefing Monday when State Department spokesman Mark Toner was asked by a reporters whether there was a problem of "commingling" of Syrian opposition groups that the United States had been supporting with al-Nusra Front forces and whether the United States was calling on al-Nusra's erstwhile allies to stop fighting alongside al-Nusra or face Russian strikes. Toner initially declared, "We believe we can delineate between Nusrah and Daesh and other moderate opposition groups on the ground."

    But after a very long exchanges with reporters, he acknowledged, "Yes, I believe there is some commingling of these groups." And Toner went on to say, "We, the ISSG, have been very clear in saying that al-Nusrah and Daesh are not part of any kind of cease-fire or any kind of negotiated cessation of hostilities. So if you hang out with the wrong folks, then you make that decision.... You choose who hang out with, and that sends a signal."

    The combination of military pressure on the al-Nusra Front and its allies and the Obama administration's decision to make clear to armed organizations that they must make a clear decision to separate themselves from al-Nusra Front operations takes the conflict into uncharted territory.

    Under the US-Russian agreement, armed opposition groups other than al-Nusra Front and Daesh must declare their readiness to abide by a cease-fire by midnight Friday Damascus time. News media reaction to the agreement has revolved mainly around the lack of arrangements for monitoring the cease-fire and verifying who is violating it. But the real issue is what incentives the armed opposition groups have to abide by a cease-fire.

    The calculations that will be made by each armed opposition group will be slightly different, depending on how it views the likely future trends in the war, how dependent it believes it is on cooperation with al-Nusra front for its military effectiveness, and how distrustful it is of the Assad regime, their external supporters and al-Nusra front itself.

    No one believes that the entire opposition will abandon al-Nusra Front. The reality that has shaped the nature of the war since 2013 has been that virtually all armed opposition groups that were not already partisans of an Islamic emirate in Syria gravitated to tight military alliances with al-Nusra, because the latter had superior organization and highly effective military tactics. Also, such cooperation was being urged on them by Turkish, Saudi and Qatari agents who were generous with heavy weaponry, and the Obama administration supported its allies in the hope that it would force Assad to step down but not cause the collapse of the secular Syrian state apparatus.

    That has meant that the non-Jihadist and non-Salafist anti-Assad groups have effectively become junior partners of al-Nusra Front and its closest ally Ahrar al Sham in "operations rooms" for coordination of military activities in the strategic northern provinces of Idlib and Aleppo. Reuters reported in April 2015 that CIA-supported rebels who coordinated their combat role with al-Nusra in the successful offensive to take over Idlib province were not even allowed to be part of the "operations room" for the offensive.

    So even armed groups that have been supported by the CIA in the past are not "commingled" physically with al-Nusra forces may feel that they would be unable to carry out operations independently of al-Qaeda. And in fact most would be vulnerable to being attacked and even taken over by al-Qaeda. For many of them, participation in the cease-fire would likely mean giving up resistance to the Assad regime entirely. That may be a very difficult choice for some organizations to make - unless they believe the battle is likely to be lost in any case.

    It seem certain that the US-Russian initiative will produce some split in what has been a united front of forces fighting the Assad regime. Jaish al Islam, the third largest anti-Assad organization apart from Daesh, whose physical base in the Damascus area, is already integrated into the negotiating structure. Its leader, Mohammed Alloush, is already the chief negotiator for the High Negotiations Committee team, which has officially represented the opposition in Geneva.

    On the other hand, Ahrar al-Sham, the largest anti-Assad fighting force in the war other than al-Nusra Front and Daesh, which the Obama administration and its allies had hoped could be lured into negotiations, is certain to reject the cease-fire. It is simply too closely intertwined with al-Nusra Front to detach itself politically or physically, and it joined al-Nusra Front in denouncing the negotiations process.

    At least for the time being, al-Nusra Front and Ahrar al Sham will likely remain a powerful coalition of fighting forces in the two northern provinces. The cease-fire agreement can increase the pressure on the al-Qaeda in Syria, but cannot by itself end the war any time soon. That will still depend on results on the battlefield - with all its attendant human costs.
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    Post  arpakola Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:19 am

    Τ-90 got hit by ATGM (TOW)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:39 am

    arpakola wrote:Τ-90 got hit by ATGM (TOW)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg
    Keep up Laughing already posted and analysed 2 posts up. You got to be quick round here thumbsup
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    Post  Erk Fri Feb 26, 2016 11:56 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    arpakola wrote:Τ-90 got hit by ATGM (TOW)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg
    Keep up Laughing already posted and analysed 2 posts up. You got to be quick round here thumbsup

    What post number? I can't see it.
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    Post  short_fuze Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:08 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    archangelski wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg

    T-90 hit by TOW. Shtora is off though the turret machine gun fired (at the cameraman ???).
    Tanks seems to have withstood impact and a crew member escapes.

    Yeah just gave an impression on the other thread.

    TOW launch well within gunner enveloppe. HIts on the gunner position. Gunner gets out OK.
    5sec flight= 1200/1500m (flight speed 240m/sec) so the gunner shold have:

    1. Seen the threat.
    2. Neutralized the threat.
    3. The HMG which is on the TC controls, seemingly spotted the threat.

    Again, just bad idea to turn Shtora off and worst Idea to let the TC do the fighting.
    Tank looks OK and there's no aftermath. The TD is most probably still thinking WTF.

    Very lucky the turret was hit and the Moderats are illiterate because the damn hull was open for business.

    The gunner is probably going to be deaf for a while.
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    Post  short_fuze Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:11 pm

    arpakola wrote:According to Dr. Jamil M. Shahin in Berlin - A total of 360 000 foreign fighters fought against the SAA.

    A portion of these fighters were killed, a portion's fate is unknown, a portion has returned to their country & a portion is still fighting.

    Saudi Arabia: 24500 Fighters - 5990 Killed - 2700 Fate Unknown - 19 Killed Were Women
    Turkey: 25800 Fighters - 5760 Killed - 380 Fate Unknown - Includes Turkmen, Grey Wolves & Turkish Military Personnel
    Chechnya: 21000 Fighters - 5230 Killed - 1920 Fate Unknown - 16 Killed Were Women
    Palestine: 14000 Fighters - 4920 Killed - 670 Fate Unknown  - Mostly From Palestinian Refugee Camps & the Gaza Strip
    Tunisia: 10500 Fighters - 4200 Killed - 1260 Fate Unknown - 45 (of the 10500) Are Women & Young Girls
    Libya: 9500 Fighters - 3940 Killed - 1650 Fate Unknown
    Iraq: 13000 Fighters - 3780 Killed - 1200 Fate Unknown - Includes Mujahedeen Khalq (Iranian Terrorist Organization) & Iraqis
    Lebanon: 11000 Fighters - 3110 Killed - 1080 Fate Unknown - 7 Killed Were Women & Some Fighters From Lebanon Are Palestinian
    Turkmenistan: 8600 Fighters - 3050 Killed - 900 Fate Unknown - 11 Killed Were Women
    Egypt: 7500 Fighters - 2100 Killed - 870 Fate Unknown
    Jordan: 3900 Fighters - 1990 Killed - 265 Fate Unknown - Jordanians or Palestinians
    Pakistan: 4600 Fighters - 1380 Killed - 590 Fate Unknown
    Afghanistan: 3600 Fighters - 1240 Killed - 650 Fate Unknown - Includes Afghan Arabs (Al Qaeeda mingled with the Taliban to breed retards)
    Yemen: 2800 Fighters - 1440 Killed - 700 Fate Unknown
    Kazakhstan: 2550 Fighters - 1130 Killed
    Uzbekistan: 2700 Fighters - 780 Killed - 380 Fate Unknown - 4 Killed Were Women
    Kuwait: 1900 Fighters - 640 Killed - 8 Fate Unknown
    Algeria: 1950 Fighters - 620 Killed - 44 Fate Unknown
    Morocco: 2100 Fighters - 610 Killed - 130 Fate Unknown - 7 Killed Were Women 

    This numbers is from 2011 to 2016


    That looks to be a 30% - 50% known kill rate. The injury rate should be much higher. thumbsup
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    Post  arpakola Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:23 pm


    No sleep for Nusra tonight as the Russian Air Force pounds northern Aleppo

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/no-sleep-for-nusra-tonight-as-the-russian-air-force-pounds-northern-aleppo/ | Al-Masdar News
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    Post  arpakola Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:30 pm

    ISIS suddenly trapped as Syrian Army pushes to recapture Aleppo supply route –

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-suddenly-trapped-syrian-army-pushes-recapture-aleppo-supply-route-map-update/ | Al-Masdar News

    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 35 Aleppo-supply-route-map

    Lately, the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) has launched a major counter-offensive which aims to reopen the supply line from central Syria (Hama) to Aleppo city. By capturing Khanasser (Khanasir) and a few other villages, government forces have reduced the ISIS-held road to just 4 miles; just yesterday, it was 7 miles. According to a military source close to al-Masdar, the SAA intends to recapture the road entirely within the next 48 hours to come. Remarkably, ISIS fighters might become trapped in just hours as government forces continue to advance. Just a small escape route, largely made up of desert sand, links ISIS troops with the ar-Raqqah motherland which represents the capital of the self-proclaimed caliphate. Therefore, fighters of the Islamic State must either retreat while time is due or face the airstrikes of the Russian Airforce as well as seasoned government troops. Currently, Tiger Forces (an elite specialized SAA offensive branch) are leading the efforts to recapture the road; however, their soldiers are also backed by hundreds of troops from the Syrian Arab Army’s 47th Regiment of the 11th Tank Division, the Republican Guard, the Liwaa Al-Quds Brigade, National Defence Forces and Al-Ba’ath Battalion. Earlier this month, the very same Tiger Forces unit captured more than a dozen villages from ISIS in eastern Aleppo and thus secured a steady supply route to Kuweiris Airbase.
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    Post  arpakola Fri Feb 26, 2016 12:58 pm

    arpakola wrote:Τ-90 got hit by ATGM (TOW)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg

    the T90 didnt see the TOW coming ..!
    probably because it was half abstracted by  the wall and was not in open space.

    The use of tanks as guns on weels is not very productive. That hit was a bad moment for the t90 regiment operating there. |
    Tank must operate in packs .. and always on the move.
    Isolated and stationary are siting ducks..
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    Post  Werewolf Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:06 pm

    Like in most engagements it is coordinated which we could see here on this video.

    Prior to launch of TOW some terrorists got information to start shooting on it to distract crew, maybe they even destroyed Shtora illuminators, because Sthora-1 can not be in sleeping mode either it works all the time or it is shut down, no other mode for this version.

    So either illuminators were destroyed or crew shut it down for some reason as (false alarm)
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:42 pm

    Erk wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    arpakola wrote:Τ-90 got hit by ATGM (TOW)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg
    Keep up Laughing already posted and analysed 2 posts up. You got to be quick round here thumbsup

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    Post  JohninMK Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:44 pm

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    ANKARA (Sputnik) — Four Saudi Arabian military aircraft have arrived at the Incirlik airbase in southern Turkey, local NTV television reported.

    Turkish authorities announced Thursday that Saudi warplanes set to be used in the fight against the Islamic State (also known as Daesh) would shortly arrive in the country.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160226/1035390487/saudi-arabia-turkey.html#ixzz41HG2wSsU
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:48 pm

    Fridays´ funnies:

    Syria's opposition demands during the truce of the right to armed protection

    http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160225/1380468836.html

    MOSCOW, 25 Feb — RIA Novosti. Higher Committee on negotiations (CPSU), representing part of the Syrian opposition, published its comments to the agreement on the truce in Syria made Russia and the USA; in a document sent to the U.S., the firm has hinted that he would like the same conditions as government forces.
    On Monday issued a joint statement of the U.S. and Russia on Syria, according to which a truce between the forces of the Syrian government and armed opposition groups must start from 27 February, but it will not apply to the group "Islamic state" and "dzhebhat EN-Nusra" (banned in Russia) and other formation, recognized by the UN terrorist.
    All parties agree with the terms of the armistice, should declare its readiness to comply with it not later than 12.00 local time on 26 February.

    The opposition is demanding the right to armed response

    WCP was formed based on the results of the Congress of the Syrian opposition, which was held in Riyadh on December 11th and 12th. The members of the Committee declared that will achieve resignation of President Bashar al-Assad at the beginning of the transition period.
    The Committee complains that the agreement allows Syrian regime to continue the fight against terrorist organizations, but the opposition is forbidden to conduct operations. According to the document, the troops of the Syrian government, its allies, including the HQs of the Russian Federation, coalition forces led by the United States will continue to strike at the Islamic state and other terrorist groups.
    The CPSU insisted that the opposition "more often attacked by terrorists than", and "want to deny the regime the implementation of any hostilities".
    The indignation of the CPSU expressed in another paragraph of comments. In their view, the agreement States about the possible consequences that threaten the opposition in case of violation of the truce. "In this case, that side loses integrity, and then the RF mode and can attack this side," says VKP. Thus, the impact of the Syrian authorities.

    Monitoring primarily

    The Committee sent a document to the United States. Mostly claims of the opposition concern the role of Russia in the Syrian crisis – the opposition seemed "strange" that Russia is leading the fighting at the request of the Syrian regime, at the same time will monitor the implementation of the truce.
    The WCP has proposed to entrust the truce monitoring body, which will be created on the basis of the so-called group "friends of Syria", comprising the US, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and other countries. Earlier official representative of US state Department stated that the monitoring mechanism of the ceasefire regime in Syria will be elaborated in the coming days.
    Beforehand worried about the Committee and possible violations of the truce. So, its members propose to develop a mechanism of notification of the violations, and identify a neutral party who will impartially determine responsible for breaking the ceasefire. You must determine and acceptable time limits laid down for responding to violations.

    Clarification is required

    In its comments to the document, the Committee argues that the fighting in Syria are not only VC of the Russian Federation and the Syrian government troops but also armed groups, loyal to the regime and is connected with Iran. CPSU emphasizes that the Treaty does not clarify the mechanism whereby these groups will be to announce the acceptance of the truce.
    The Committee noted that the agreement outlines the obligations of the parties to the armistice to respect international humanitarian law.

    The time frame of the truce have also become a subject of interest to the WCP: the Committee proposed to clearly define the timing of the ceasefire and prolong it in case of successful adherence by all participants.
    I urge the opposition also to commit before the truce comes into force, combat positions of the armed forces of Syria. The purpose of this proposal is "to prevent the regime to move troops and increase service in areas that are controlled by them, from the beginning of the truce". The CPSU says that the document contained the phrase "lack of desire for the seizure of land" "means nothing in terms of international obligations".

    The Deputy foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov did not rule out on Thursday in comments to RIA Novosti that Russia and the USA will bomb the group in Syria who will not join the truce. This statement was a response to recent declarations by Brigadier commanders of the Free Syrian army that they did not participate in the truce, if it does not apply to a terrorist group "dzhebhat EN-Nusra".

    The paragraphs of the armistice agreement in Syria have already started being implemented. In particular, on the Russian air base in Syria Hamim established a Focal point to reconcile the warring parties. According to some reports, it already began to receive complaints from forces wishing to participate in the ceasefire.


    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160225/1380468836.html#ixzz41HFaTY15


    Off Topic
    and here is US going to total war? Maybe time to sell oli/gas in Rubles?

    The U.S. state Department admitted that convinces businessmen around the world to curtail business in Russia

    http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201602260345-hfrh.htm

    The U.S. state Department confirmed that assures the company in the U.S., the EU and worldwide to stop doing business in Russia "in normal mode", transmit RIA Novosti..

    About it news Agency said the representative office. He commented on recent media reports that the States with the largest American contact bankam and strongly recommend them not to buy Russian bonds.

    "We continue to make clear to the U.S. companies, which we believe is a return to normal business with Russia has both economic and reputational risks", - said the representative of the American foreign Ministry.

    He said that such a policy is part of an overall strategy that includes sanctions and to end diplomatic contacts. According to the interlocutor of the news Agency, the state Department gives private companies not only in the US and the EU, but all over the world that "Russia will remain a high-risk market."







    The Ministry of Finance: US banks are showing interest in the privatization of state assets of Russia


    "The fact that banks are showing interest in this (privatization of major state assets of the Russian Federation — ed), I can say for sure," said he. "I can say that from the perspective of frequency of interaction and the arrival of the executives of these banks in Moscow, I reduce this interest not in public," he said.


    http://ria.ru/economy/20160226/1380771619.html

    WTF? I am sure III Reich´s banks would be interested in Soviet´s assets between 41-45, but I am not sure if Soviet MoF would be that happy.





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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:51 pm

    arpakola wrote:
    arpakola wrote:Τ-90 got hit by ATGM (TOW)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYOJSz1WOEg

    the T90 didnt see the TOW coming ..!
    probably because it was half abstracted by  the wall and was not in open space.

    The use of tanks as guns on weels is not very productive. That hit was a bad moment for the t90 regiment operating there. |
    Tank must operate in packs .. and always on the move.
    Isolated and stationary are siting ducks..

    It most than probably did at firing. Range being close they most probably chose to engage with HMG at the general direction of the ATGM position. Possibly the decision NOT to engage a round, was good. As penetration could have meant pressure detonation. Causing at least the gunner to be concussed/wounded/KIA.

    This leads me to think that while they exposed themselves too much, these guys made a business decision and ultimately that paid off. Lack of aftermath is clear sign the T90A wasn't destroyed. All the rest is good/bad speculation.
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    Post  arpakola Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:53 pm


    Refuges drama..
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    coming with ships from Lesvos to Pireus
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    Post  Stealthflanker Fri Feb 26, 2016 2:55 pm

    Saw that T-90 got its gunner's hatch open before hit.. I wonder if Shtora got same safety mechanism as Arena.

    Arena will not work with hatch open.

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