We watched live the entire hours long riot near Presidential Administration Building, Berkut blocking the street to prevent a numerous, well formed and well commanded cadre of protesters who were determined to take the building. Berkut cadre for the first few hours were obviously, in my opinion, trainees. It was only in the later stages that experienced Berkut joined the lines. When the prekass was finally given to clear Bankova Street, but ONLY Bankova Street, Berkut performed their task was alacrity and admittedly violence. Twice they cleared Bankova but stopped at the intersection of the cross street. I told my wife at the end that Yanokovich would lose. She told me I was crazy. Not quite 12 weeks later she and I were shoveling sand in to bags at 02:00 in the cold and rain at the entrance road to Belbek Aerodrome as we helped build a barricade to blockade Sevastopol. Other barricades were being constructed simultaneously just east of Simferopol Ring, just south of Yalta Ring, the entrance to Bogdanova Street on North side, one other place, the three roads leading in to Yalta and the border crossing at the Krim/Ukraine borders.
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Events leading to Crimea joining RF
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Events leading to Crimea joining RF
01 December 2013, Bankova Street, Kiev, Ukraine.
We watched live the entire hours long riot near Presidential Administration Building, Berkut blocking the street to prevent a numerous, well formed and well commanded cadre of protesters who were determined to take the building. Berkut cadre for the first few hours were obviously, in my opinion, trainees. It was only in the later stages that experienced Berkut joined the lines. When the prekass was finally given to clear Bankova Street, but ONLY Bankova Street, Berkut performed their task was alacrity and admittedly violence. Twice they cleared Bankova but stopped at the intersection of the cross street. I told my wife at the end that Yanokovich would lose. She told me I was crazy. Not quite 12 weeks later she and I were shoveling sand in to bags at 02:00 in the cold and rain at the entrance road to Belbek Aerodrome as we helped build a barricade to blockade Sevastopol. Other barricades were being constructed simultaneously just east of Simferopol Ring, just south of Yalta Ring, the entrance to Bogdanova Street on North side, one other place, the three roads leading in to Yalta and the border crossing at the Krim/Ukraine borders.
We watched live the entire hours long riot near Presidential Administration Building, Berkut blocking the street to prevent a numerous, well formed and well commanded cadre of protesters who were determined to take the building. Berkut cadre for the first few hours were obviously, in my opinion, trainees. It was only in the later stages that experienced Berkut joined the lines. When the prekass was finally given to clear Bankova Street, but ONLY Bankova Street, Berkut performed their task was alacrity and admittedly violence. Twice they cleared Bankova but stopped at the intersection of the cross street. I told my wife at the end that Yanokovich would lose. She told me I was crazy. Not quite 12 weeks later she and I were shoveling sand in to bags at 02:00 in the cold and rain at the entrance road to Belbek Aerodrome as we helped build a barricade to blockade Sevastopol. Other barricades were being constructed simultaneously just east of Simferopol Ring, just south of Yalta Ring, the entrance to Bogdanova Street on North side, one other place, the three roads leading in to Yalta and the border crossing at the Krim/Ukraine borders.
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macedonian wrote:I'll erase this first post if you choose to post your stuff here.
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Thanks, I'm honored.auslander wrote:macedonian wrote:I'll erase this first post if you choose to post your stuff here.
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Please be advised that while some of the dates during the events might not be absolutely correct, off by a day or two, the sequence of the events is correct to the best of my memory. Those first two weeks after the coup d'etat in Kiev were very active with events unfolding daily, sometimes by the hour and minute.
Please be civil to each other. We all have feelings about the events of the past year and a half. Some, actually many, of you well know my feelings about the situation since February. That being said, I am trained in reconnaissance and I try to report only what I/we saw eyes on or what was relayed to us by people I/we trust, and trusted, with our lives.
There were and are events that I will not mention nor will I acknowledge them if they are mentioned. While we generally have pretty free reign to say, do and post what I/we want, there are limitations.
Please do not ask me for more knowledge than I am posting here. I do know a lot more but some events and informations can not be posted due to OpSec, other informations because the participants do not want to be publicly mentioned. Many of the participants in the actual operations are strong comrades of ours and I/we will always respect their wishes.
My knowledge of Russian language is poor, as my lass jokes it's just enough to confuse GAI on the rare occasion we are stopped. My bride has been an invaluable aid in my understanding and documenting the events in Kiev, Ukraine in general, Novorossiya and Krimu. We are a team and that fact is well known among the facilities and places where we are active.
This thread will eventually expand to an extent and will include, to a point, the events in Donbas as far as they concern us in Krimu.
Please be civil to each other. We all have feelings about the events of the past year and a half. Some, actually many, of you well know my feelings about the situation since February. That being said, I am trained in reconnaissance and I try to report only what I/we saw eyes on or what was relayed to us by people I/we trust, and trusted, with our lives.
There were and are events that I will not mention nor will I acknowledge them if they are mentioned. While we generally have pretty free reign to say, do and post what I/we want, there are limitations.
Please do not ask me for more knowledge than I am posting here. I do know a lot more but some events and informations can not be posted due to OpSec, other informations because the participants do not want to be publicly mentioned. Many of the participants in the actual operations are strong comrades of ours and I/we will always respect their wishes.
My knowledge of Russian language is poor, as my lass jokes it's just enough to confuse GAI on the rare occasion we are stopped. My bride has been an invaluable aid in my understanding and documenting the events in Kiev, Ukraine in general, Novorossiya and Krimu. We are a team and that fact is well known among the facilities and places where we are active.
This thread will eventually expand to an extent and will include, to a point, the events in Donbas as far as they concern us in Krimu.
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macedonian wrote:Thanks, I'm honored.auslander wrote:macedonian wrote:I'll erase this first post if you choose to post your stuff here.
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The honor is ours for you starting this thread. I/we will do our best.
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we have already such thread
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there is?.
is it possible to make an exception?. this guy has been trough events on the Crimea right after the Coup in Kiev. and reading his comments in the CIS ukraine thread he has personal experiences and facts that where not public. some of us feel there are some unique insights trough his perspective of events as they happened.
i of course do not decide what Modders do around here, i just wanted to say here tough i would really appreciate if Auslander could post his own experiences on this forum and thread isolating it from the rest of the mainstream discussion of Ukraine. Crimea has been such an huge of an topic in international politics and media. personally i feel its right to let one of its residents to tell his story of events. not to mention to witch myself and some others are very interested about.
its just an extra thread on the forum in my opinion. it will not cost anything and those of us interested can converse freely about it in association with Auslander without any distraction comments about Ukraine in General.
is it possible to make an exception?. this guy has been trough events on the Crimea right after the Coup in Kiev. and reading his comments in the CIS ukraine thread he has personal experiences and facts that where not public. some of us feel there are some unique insights trough his perspective of events as they happened.
i of course do not decide what Modders do around here, i just wanted to say here tough i would really appreciate if Auslander could post his own experiences on this forum and thread isolating it from the rest of the mainstream discussion of Ukraine. Crimea has been such an huge of an topic in international politics and media. personally i feel its right to let one of its residents to tell his story of events. not to mention to witch myself and some others are very interested about.
its just an extra thread on the forum in my opinion. it will not cost anything and those of us interested can converse freely about it in association with Auslander without any distraction comments about Ukraine in General.
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Auslander's Crimea Thread
19 & 20 February.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Preliminary plans were discussed in the event the coup leaders had designs on Krimu Peninsula and specifically Sevastopol. Neither of us heard the first mention of Krim or Sevastopol returning to RF.
Information was presented that told in some detail how many Right Sector operatives were in Krimea and mention was made of one religious figure who was either in the peninsula or was on his way to Krimea. Information about the sudden increase of activity at Polish Consulate Building was presented. Confirmed locations of Right Sector operatives were listed and included Sevastopol, Bachti Sarai, Balaklava, Simferopol, Yalta, Feodossya and Kerch, concentrated in Sevastopol/Balaklava and Simferopol.
Information that this change of power in Kiev would be different was presented. In all previous power changes while the public heads of government changed the same old groups of oligarchs continued to meet privately over caviar and cigars and continued to plan the ongoing looting of Ukraine and The Autonomous Republic of Krimea. Misters Turchinov, Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko were mentioned as eventual Head of State.
In public in Sevastopol the very first Georgia Ribbons began to appear on citizen's coats. A few small knots of citizens began to appear, nervously discussing the situation in Kiev but in general the populace was quite calm and resigned to the fact that Sevastopol and Krimu would get yet another swarm of rapacious thieves arriving from Kiev to continue to steal what they could, of course bringing their minions with them to share in the spoils.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Preliminary plans were discussed in the event the coup leaders had designs on Krimu Peninsula and specifically Sevastopol. Neither of us heard the first mention of Krim or Sevastopol returning to RF.
Information was presented that told in some detail how many Right Sector operatives were in Krimea and mention was made of one religious figure who was either in the peninsula or was on his way to Krimea. Information about the sudden increase of activity at Polish Consulate Building was presented. Confirmed locations of Right Sector operatives were listed and included Sevastopol, Bachti Sarai, Balaklava, Simferopol, Yalta, Feodossya and Kerch, concentrated in Sevastopol/Balaklava and Simferopol.
Information that this change of power in Kiev would be different was presented. In all previous power changes while the public heads of government changed the same old groups of oligarchs continued to meet privately over caviar and cigars and continued to plan the ongoing looting of Ukraine and The Autonomous Republic of Krimea. Misters Turchinov, Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko were mentioned as eventual Head of State.
In public in Sevastopol the very first Georgia Ribbons began to appear on citizen's coats. A few small knots of citizens began to appear, nervously discussing the situation in Kiev but in general the populace was quite calm and resigned to the fact that Sevastopol and Krimu would get yet another swarm of rapacious thieves arriving from Kiev to continue to steal what they could, of course bringing their minions with them to share in the spoils.
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I think we can make this a special thread for those from the Crimea to post information (ie no CNN or BBC or Russia Today please) and for other members to ask questions and discuss.
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Events leading to Crimea joining RF
21 & 22 February 2014
In the hours before dawn on 20 February information is communicated that the coup d'etat in Kiev is successful and violence reigns in and around Maidan Square. Information at that time is Mr. Yanukovich has left Kiev for an unknown location with an entourage and numerous guards. His final destination is Rostov-na-Danu in Russian Federation some days later. We were not privy at the time or later to the exact movements of Mr. Yanukovich.
On the morning of 21 February there were signs that the local populace were getting nervous of the events in Kiev. Information became known to the public that more Right Sector operatives had arrived in Simferopol on the night train and promptly disappeared. The operatives began to appear more openly in public in Sevastopol and Balaklava and information was the same for Simferopol and Kerch.
As an informational aside, Sevastopol City is in essence an enormous village. It seems that everyone knows everyone and tourists and other visitors are fairly well noticed no matter where they are. The Right Sector operatives wandered around in twos and threes, very noticeable as visitors generally. They did not hide their curiosity as to what back alley or street led where, looking in to virtually every nook and cranny and often asking locals questions of various locations in City Center. A small cadre became frequent visitors to Naximova Square across the street from City Administration Building at Ekatarina's Gate.
Mr. A. Chalyi arrived in Sevastopol on either 20 or 21 February. Mr. Chalyi is a highly respected businessman having several manufacturing facilities in Sevastopol and his business HQ for Krimea is in Sevastopol. He is neither an oligarch nor corrupt.
The closed meetings continue from afternoon 21 February lasting until well after dawn 22 February, resuming on the twenty second shortly after noon as informations began to be verified of Rada in Kiev beginning to pass new laws without the President's approval. One of the first, if not the first, laws passed is to make Ukrainian the only language in Ukraine specifically including the Autonomous Republic of Krimea and the Federal City of Sevastopol according to information received at the time. This law encompassed everything from cash register receipts to medical prescriptions to any and all documents concerning any public or private official entity. Everything was to be in Ukrainian with no exceptions. Informations about this law were not well received by the populace of Krimea and Sevastopol. The informations were regarded as a harbinger of things to come.
Plans are formulated for a mass meeting to be held on Naximova Square in afternoon of 23 February. The proper documents are filed for the meeting to Militsiya who immediately begin to delay approval of the meeting, the meeting being the citizen's right under Ukraine Law.
The populace of Sevastopol and other cities in Krimea begin to get more nervous about the ongoing events in Kiev. More groups of citizens are gathered around City Center in Sevastopol, none large and little if any inflammatory talk is heard. The first Krimea, Sevastopol and St. George flags are seen in City Center Park, Naxhimova Square and in front of City Administration Building and more citizens are seen with the St. George Ribbon on their coats. Weather is quite cool at this time.
On North Side, which we call our little village, the presence of Ukraine Military, always in the past quite visible although never armed guards as such, is the same. Trucks and GAZ wandering around but nothing of any import has changed. The usual black SUV's and large foreign cars with blacked out windows and Kiev tags are still extant, as usual speeding through Bogdanova Street at breakneck rate. At precisely 17:00 on 22 February 2014 Ukraine Military and black Kiev vehicles ceased to be visible during daylight hours on Northside.
On Saturday, 22 February, Sevastopol Berkut arrive in Sevastopol, being treated to a tumultuous welcome in Naxhimova Square by quite some thousands of citizens. They had fought their way from Kiev to Sevastopol, bringing their wounded with them except one who was in intensive care in Kiev. After the extended celebrations of their arrival they proceed to their lager in City, the gates are closed and guarded by armed Berkut. Only relatives of Berkut are allowed in to the compound, media specifically forbidden entry or converse with Berkut.
In the hours before dawn on 20 February information is communicated that the coup d'etat in Kiev is successful and violence reigns in and around Maidan Square. Information at that time is Mr. Yanukovich has left Kiev for an unknown location with an entourage and numerous guards. His final destination is Rostov-na-Danu in Russian Federation some days later. We were not privy at the time or later to the exact movements of Mr. Yanukovich.
On the morning of 21 February there were signs that the local populace were getting nervous of the events in Kiev. Information became known to the public that more Right Sector operatives had arrived in Simferopol on the night train and promptly disappeared. The operatives began to appear more openly in public in Sevastopol and Balaklava and information was the same for Simferopol and Kerch.
As an informational aside, Sevastopol City is in essence an enormous village. It seems that everyone knows everyone and tourists and other visitors are fairly well noticed no matter where they are. The Right Sector operatives wandered around in twos and threes, very noticeable as visitors generally. They did not hide their curiosity as to what back alley or street led where, looking in to virtually every nook and cranny and often asking locals questions of various locations in City Center. A small cadre became frequent visitors to Naximova Square across the street from City Administration Building at Ekatarina's Gate.
Mr. A. Chalyi arrived in Sevastopol on either 20 or 21 February. Mr. Chalyi is a highly respected businessman having several manufacturing facilities in Sevastopol and his business HQ for Krimea is in Sevastopol. He is neither an oligarch nor corrupt.
The closed meetings continue from afternoon 21 February lasting until well after dawn 22 February, resuming on the twenty second shortly after noon as informations began to be verified of Rada in Kiev beginning to pass new laws without the President's approval. One of the first, if not the first, laws passed is to make Ukrainian the only language in Ukraine specifically including the Autonomous Republic of Krimea and the Federal City of Sevastopol according to information received at the time. This law encompassed everything from cash register receipts to medical prescriptions to any and all documents concerning any public or private official entity. Everything was to be in Ukrainian with no exceptions. Informations about this law were not well received by the populace of Krimea and Sevastopol. The informations were regarded as a harbinger of things to come.
Plans are formulated for a mass meeting to be held on Naximova Square in afternoon of 23 February. The proper documents are filed for the meeting to Militsiya who immediately begin to delay approval of the meeting, the meeting being the citizen's right under Ukraine Law.
The populace of Sevastopol and other cities in Krimea begin to get more nervous about the ongoing events in Kiev. More groups of citizens are gathered around City Center in Sevastopol, none large and little if any inflammatory talk is heard. The first Krimea, Sevastopol and St. George flags are seen in City Center Park, Naxhimova Square and in front of City Administration Building and more citizens are seen with the St. George Ribbon on their coats. Weather is quite cool at this time.
On North Side, which we call our little village, the presence of Ukraine Military, always in the past quite visible although never armed guards as such, is the same. Trucks and GAZ wandering around but nothing of any import has changed. The usual black SUV's and large foreign cars with blacked out windows and Kiev tags are still extant, as usual speeding through Bogdanova Street at breakneck rate. At precisely 17:00 on 22 February 2014 Ukraine Military and black Kiev vehicles ceased to be visible during daylight hours on Northside.
On Saturday, 22 February, Sevastopol Berkut arrive in Sevastopol, being treated to a tumultuous welcome in Naxhimova Square by quite some thousands of citizens. They had fought their way from Kiev to Sevastopol, bringing their wounded with them except one who was in intensive care in Kiev. After the extended celebrations of their arrival they proceed to their lager in City, the gates are closed and guarded by armed Berkut. Only relatives of Berkut are allowed in to the compound, media specifically forbidden entry or converse with Berkut.
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Re: Events leading to Crimea joining RF
auslander wrote:19 & 20 February.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Polkovnik really did not waste a second getting his men out of Kiev. excellent leadership and decision making on his part. its inhumane and brutal what happened during the coup and afterwards with the Berkut. while here the media said "peaceful protestors" i had that footage of Berkut on fire, being clubbed with intent to kill or that berkut officer with heavy injuries to the face the right sector scum got their hands on posted on my FB.
its horrible no matter how you turn it, but im glad you guys got almost all of your berkut back.
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Re: Events leading to Crimea joining RF
Airbornewolf wrote:auslander wrote:19 & 20 February.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Polkovnik really did not waste a second getting his men out of Kiev. excellent leadership and decision making on his part. its inhumane and brutal what happened during the coup and afterwards with the Berkut. while here the media said "peaceful protestors" i had that footage of Berkut on fire, being clubbed with intent to kill or that berkut officer with heavy injuries to the face the right sector scum got their hands on posted on my FB.
its horrible no matter how you turn it, but im glad you guys got almost all of your berkut back.
The one thing that i find really suspicious and astonishing is that SBU so quickly was pro US.
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Re: Events leading to Crimea joining RF
Werewolf wrote:Airbornewolf wrote:auslander wrote:19 & 20 February.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Polkovnik really did not waste a second getting his men out of Kiev. excellent leadership and decision making on his part. its inhumane and brutal what happened during the coup and afterwards with the Berkut. while here the media said "peaceful protestors" i had that footage of Berkut on fire, being clubbed with intent to kill or that berkut officer with heavy injuries to the face the right sector scum got their hands on posted on my FB.
its horrible no matter how you turn it, but im glad you guys got almost all of your berkut back.
The one thing that i find really suspicious and astonishing is that SBU so quickly was pro US.
The SBU isn't pro-anything...they're pro survival. How many times have we not heard from the Ukrops that Intelligence services are either useless or in bed with "Rashan Invaderz". These guys will turn coat as much as they need to.
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Re: Events leading to Crimea joining RF
Airbornewolf wrote:auslander wrote:19 & 20 February.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Polkovnik really did not waste a second getting his men out of Kiev. excellent leadership and decision making on his part. its inhumane and brutal what happened during the coup and afterwards with the Berkut. while here the media said "peaceful protestors" i had that footage of Berkut on fire, being clubbed with intent to kill or that berkut officer with heavy injuries to the face the right sector scum got their hands on posted on my FB.
its horrible no matter how you turn it, but im glad you guys got almost all of your berkut back.
We were not in Naxhimova for that event but we did watch it on CCTV less than 50 meters away. Polkovnik performed his duties in exemplary fashion and managed to get almost all of his men down to safety in Sevastopol. The one boy who was in Hospital in Kiev, severely wounded, we eventually got him back, but not until his treatment was paid for plus a substantial gratuity. Losses to Berkut throughout Ukraine during their trek home were substantial, estimated to be in excess of 200 dead. The Berkut saga will be addressed a bit more as this thread progresses. We owe them much, they never forgot their duties nor their welcome home. Many of them in Naxhimova during the welcome were reduced to tears, quite literally.
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Re: Events leading to Crimea joining RF
KoTeMoRe wrote:Werewolf wrote:Airbornewolf wrote:auslander wrote:19 & 20 February.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Polkovnik really did not waste a second getting his men out of Kiev. excellent leadership and decision making on his part. its inhumane and brutal what happened during the coup and afterwards with the Berkut. while here the media said "peaceful protestors" i had that footage of Berkut on fire, being clubbed with intent to kill or that berkut officer with heavy injuries to the face the right sector scum got their hands on posted on my FB.
its horrible no matter how you turn it, but im glad you guys got almost all of your berkut back.
The one thing that i find really suspicious and astonishing is that SBU so quickly was pro US.
The SBU isn't pro-anything...they're pro survival. How many times have we not heard from the Ukrops that Intelligence services are either useless or in bed with "Rashan Invaderz". These guys will turn coat as much as they need to.
That is why the CIA chief was visting them along that they openly have the freaking US flag waving next to ukrainian flag at official buildings?
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Re: Events leading to Crimea joining RF
Werewolf wrote:KoTeMoRe wrote:Werewolf wrote:Airbornewolf wrote:auslander wrote:19 & 20 February.
Various closed meetings are held in Sevastopol and Simferopol, some lasting until dawn the next day. To the best of my/our knowledge there were no official or unofficial representatives from RF government or military and we certainly did not see either. I stress that we were not, are not and will never be in the upper echelons of power, scarce even what could be called 'medium' echelons.
Information that the coup d'etat in Kiev will be successful is presented. Information that Berkut units in Kiev are to be, and were, told to stand down and return to their respective base cities is presented. Every major city in Ukraine had Berkut units, almost all of whom were sent to Kiev to combat the coup. Sevastopol Berkut, led by a capable Polkovnik, immediately stood down and abandoned Kiev, climbing in their buses still in full riot gear with shields. They carried their wounded with them. Other units were not so prudent or did not receive the order to stand down and suffered the consequences.
Polkovnik really did not waste a second getting his men out of Kiev. excellent leadership and decision making on his part. its inhumane and brutal what happened during the coup and afterwards with the Berkut. while here the media said "peaceful protestors" i had that footage of Berkut on fire, being clubbed with intent to kill or that berkut officer with heavy injuries to the face the right sector scum got their hands on posted on my FB.
its horrible no matter how you turn it, but im glad you guys got almost all of your berkut back.
The one thing that i find really suspicious and astonishing is that SBU so quickly was pro US.
The SBU isn't pro-anything...they're pro survival. How many times have we not heard from the Ukrops that Intelligence services are either useless or in bed with "Rashan Invaderz". These guys will turn coat as much as they need to.
That is why the CIA chief was visting them along that they openly have the freaking US flag waving next to ukrainian flag at official buildings?
How being a turncoat, contradicts my point that they are professional turncoats?
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You don't think that there are quite alot of SALA UKRAINY fascsits in SBU which made their choice pretty simple and favorable as long they can be the puppets they are used as?
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It is nauseating thinking about the hate that has infested a big chunk of Ukraine out of that Galician toilet.
You would think that there was some regime of terror under Yanukovich that 200 Berkut would be killed.
Yanukovich was bending over to please these Orange maggots. He should have purged the army in 2010
and sent it to the Maidan in January 2014 when the Banderite militants moved in.
The Banderites have, in the long run, destroyed Ukraine. They can stage their real regime of terror now,
but it won't last. They will not convert the over 50% of Ukrainians who supported normality (i.e. not
Orange) into serfs or loyalists.
This is an off topic reply, but tangentially relevant to Crimea in that the Bandera-tards have dreams
of reconquista.
You would think that there was some regime of terror under Yanukovich that 200 Berkut would be killed.
Yanukovich was bending over to please these Orange maggots. He should have purged the army in 2010
and sent it to the Maidan in January 2014 when the Banderite militants moved in.
The Banderites have, in the long run, destroyed Ukraine. They can stage their real regime of terror now,
but it won't last. They will not convert the over 50% of Ukrainians who supported normality (i.e. not
Orange) into serfs or loyalists.
This is an off topic reply, but tangentially relevant to Crimea in that the Bandera-tards have dreams
of reconquista.
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Auslander,
I gave you my daily vote for one of your posts on the previous page.
I am very interested in the subject and I look forward to your posts.
Thanks
I gave you my daily vote for one of your posts on the previous page.
I am very interested in the subject and I look forward to your posts.
Thanks
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The accusations of treason against higher echelons are the result of trying to explain political and ideological decision making overtaking common sense and field manuals.
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Werewolf wrote:You don't think that there are quite alot of SALA UKRAINY fascsits in SBU which made their choice pretty simple and favorable as long they can be the puppets they are used as?
Given the SBU had about 8 years to prepare to a Crimea scenario (at minimum) and still didn't saw the Cry Me A River job, tells me that there aren't any kind of Slava people, ok maybe Slava baksov kind of people. If there were any kind of Slava Ukropam within SBU Majdanoz would have been over in a month at best. And Yanukovich would have played Ceaucescu Part 2: Fat Boss edition.
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Hi Jagerus,
I followed some of your posts @ mp.net regarding Crimea.
I have a question- you mentioned local "opolchenye" that was critical in the first steps to isolate/cordon off Ukranian military bases and government structures in the area.
Any photos or anything to prove that?
The reason I ask is all the footage I have seen of armed men holding down important objects (airport, then the military bases) were clearly unmarked Russian troops.
When were armed locals active?
I followed some of your posts @ mp.net regarding Crimea.
I have a question- you mentioned local "opolchenye" that was critical in the first steps to isolate/cordon off Ukranian military bases and government structures in the area.
Any photos or anything to prove that?
The reason I ask is all the footage I have seen of armed men holding down important objects (airport, then the military bases) were clearly unmarked Russian troops.
When were armed locals active?
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auslander wrote: Losses to Berkut throughout Ukraine during their trek home were substantial, estimated to be in excess of 200 dead.
Any firm details regarding this major bit of info?
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TR1 wrote:Hi Jagerus,
I followed some of your posts @ mp.net regarding Crimea.
I have a question- you mentioned local "opolchenye" that was critical in the first steps to isolate/cordon off Ukranian military bases and government structures in the area.
Any photos or anything to prove that?
The reason I ask is all the footage I have seen of armed men holding down important objects (airport, then the military bases) were clearly unmarked Russian troops.
When were armed locals active?
I will get in to the Opolchensya as this thread progresses to their time. I don't want to get out of the time line.
The figure of 200 Berkut dead comes from personal conversations with Berkut officers and men including our Polkovnik.
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TheArmenian wrote:Auslander,
I gave you my daily vote for one of your posts on the previous page.
I am very interested in the subject and I look forward to your posts.
Thanks
Armenian
Thank you for your confidence. I/we will do the best we can as time allows.