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Syrian Civil War: News #8
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http://spioenkop.blogspot.bg/2016/06/no-end-in-sight-failed-tabqa-offensive.html
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Turks fund terrorists to take over Syria and kill Russians. Turks are evil.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkmen-jihadists-launch-new-offensive-northern-latakia/
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/turkmen-jihadists-launch-new-offensive-northern-latakia/
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ThanksSolncepek wrote:http://spioenkop.blogspot.bg/2016/06/no-end-in-sight-failed-tabqa-offensive.html
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Media: militants "dzhebhat an-Nusra" (jebat nusre ?) in Northern Syria got 100 anti-aircraft missiles
http://ria.ru/syria/20160627/1453259930.html
Militants "dzhebhat an-Nusra" arrived to the Syrian-Turkish border
CPSU: Damascus rejected the "technical talks" brokered by the UN
Stolen? so now unmarked planes flying to arm rebels are called thiefs ?
http://ria.ru/syria/20160627/1453259930.html
Militants "dzhebhat an-Nusra" arrived to the Syrian-Turkish border
MOSCOW, 27 Jun — RIA Novosti. Residents of settlements Christan and Kafr Hamra in Aleppo province said that the terrorists "dzhebhat an-Nusra (Syrian branch of "al-Qaeda") with heavy weapons, arrived at the Syrian-Turkish border, mentioned in the newsletter of the Russian Center for reconciliation in Syria.
The military noted that the terrorists continue to fight. So, they fired rocket launchers and mortars settlements of El-Khader, Cudahy and Handout, as well as the neighborhoods of Sheikh Maksoud, Al-Zagra and the hills, Gaddafi in the city of Aleppo.
In addition, bombardment of the city, FOIA (Idlib), settlements Hotate al-Jarash, Hawsh Harabu, Jarash, Sorgun and Amelie and the railway bridge near the village of Maida in the province of Damascus.
РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria/20160627/1453390089.html#ixzz4CrfsN8wK
CPSU: Damascus rejected the "technical talks" brokered by the UN
РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria/20160627/1453318221.html#ixzz4CrekzI7iMOSCOW, 27 Jun — RIA Novosti. Higher Committee on negotiations (CPSU) of the Syrian opposition will present to the UN, the document details sets out his vision for a political transition in Syria, said the Agency Reuters , the official representative of the CPSU Basma Kodmani.
She also said that the Syrian government rejected the "technical talks" brokered by the UN, while the CPSU is going to soon introduce a new UN document, which sets out in detail the vision of the opposition on a political transition in Syria. It is noted that the document is not a compromise on the future of Bashar Assad as President.
higurashihougi wrote:CIA is doing their works as usual
https://www.rt.com/usa/348513-stolen-cia-arm-syria-rebels/?utm_source=browser&utm_medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome
CIA weapons supplied to the so-called “moderate” Syrian rebels via Jordan have been “systematically stolen” to be sold on the black market, a new report based on testimonies of American and Jordanian officials to the NYT and Al Jazeera has revealed.
Stolen? so now unmarked planes flying to arm rebels are called thiefs ?
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http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.458447&lon=40.915833&z=11&m=b
US begins new operation to drive ISIS away from Iraq-Syria border
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/u-s-begins-new-operation-drive-isis-deir-ezzor/ | Al-Masdar News
NSyA officially announces start of Albo Kamal offensive
#NySA moving towards Albo Kamal in #DeirEzzor countryside#SOHR: #NSyA is currently in al-Ballakousah area 15km SW of Albo Kamal amid Coalition airstrikes on the city
The #NySA is coordinating with Iraqi tribes who will supposedly partake in capturing al-Qa'im with #US aircover
US begins new operation to drive ISIS away from Iraq-Syria border
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/u-s-begins-new-operation-drive-isis-deir-ezzor/ | Al-Masdar News
On Tuesday morning, the U.S. military began a new operation to expel the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) from the Iraqi-Syrian border. Using the “New Syrian Army” (NSA) and Iraqi Federal Police, the U.S. hopes to expel the Islamic State terrorists from the Syrian cily of Abukamal and Iraqi town of Al-Qa’im. According to the New Syrian Army’s social media wing, their forces launched an attack from their positions at the Al-Tanf border-crossing in southeast Homs. The majority of territory between Al-Tanf and Abukamal is desert terrain; so, the New Syrian Army will heavily rely on U.S. airstrikes to help propel them against the Islamic State defenses. Meanwhile, across the border, their counterparts from the Iraqi Federal Police are mobilizing their forces from the recently liberated city of Fallujah to begin the Al-Qa’im campaign. If this U.S. military campaign is successful, ISIS will lose its most important border-crossing that links Iraq and Syria.
NSyA & #FSA advancing on #Iraq #Syria border towards Deir Ezzor #سوريا #دير_الزور
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An interesting video , that while information is not new is very good.
There is a major division on US politics ,and more and more
they speaking about the facts and reality in Syria.
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Don't know if already posted here : Mi-28N and Mi-24VM on support for ground forces near Palmyra :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHWqNFs9WL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHWqNFs9WL4
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Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8
calm wrote:http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.458447&lon=40.915833&z=11&m=b
NSyA officially announces start of Albo Kamal offensive#NySA moving towards Albo Kamal in #DeirEzzor countryside#SOHR: #NSyA is currently in al-Ballakousah area 15km SW of Albo Kamal amid Coalition airstrikes on the city
The #NySA is coordinating with Iraqi tribes who will supposedly partake in capturing al-Qa'im with #US aircover
US begins new operation to drive ISIS away from Iraq-Syria border
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/u-s-begins-new-operation-drive-isis-deir-ezzor/ | Al-Masdar News
On Tuesday morning, the U.S. military began a new operation to expel the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) from the Iraqi-Syrian border. Using the “New Syrian Army” (NSA) and Iraqi Federal Police, the U.S. hopes to expel the Islamic State terrorists from the Syrian cily of Abukamal and Iraqi town of Al-Qa’im. According to the New Syrian Army’s social media wing, their forces launched an attack from their positions at the Al-Tanf border-crossing in southeast Homs. The majority of territory between Al-Tanf and Abukamal is desert terrain; so, the New Syrian Army will heavily rely on U.S. airstrikes to help propel them against the Islamic State defenses. Meanwhile, across the border, their counterparts from the Iraqi Federal Police are mobilizing their forces from the recently liberated city of Fallujah to begin the Al-Qa’im campaign. If this U.S. military campaign is successful, ISIS will lose its most important border-crossing that links Iraq and Syria.
NSyA & #FSA advancing on #Iraq #Syria border towards Deir Ezzor #سوريا #دير_الزور
This is dangerous. This NEW Syrian Army is the US's replacement of SAA once Assad is killed. Russians must not trust Americans after getting tricked with USSR, Yugoslavia, Ukraine, Libya, Syria. The problem is Russians view Americans as friends rather than enemies the way Americans view Russians.
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Vann7 wrote:
An interesting video , that while information is not new is very good.
There is a major division on US politics ,and more and more
they speaking about the facts and reality in Syria.
because Trump is not alone but a representative of US "big money" trying to defend US from intl lobby? Atleast until it gets better?
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unconfirmed reports of #NSyA carrying out airborne assault vs #IslamicState positions in #AlBukamal.
#IslamicState in #Bukamal executes 5 #Syria|ns it accused of "collaborating" with #Coalition #NySA
https://twitter.com/Dalatrm/status/747875270028365828
US aircraft are strafing the roads on the edges of Abu Kamal
coalition warplanes have been hitting Abu Kamal throughout the day, giving their full support to the #NSyA offensive
NSA, based near Tanaf, reportedly advcanced in the desert along Syrian-Iraqi border and are within 20km of Abu Kamal
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calm wrote:
US begins new operation to drive ISIS away from Iraq-Syria border
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/u-s-begins-new-operation-drive-isis-deir-ezzor/ | Al-Masdar News
On Tuesday morning, the U.S. military began a new operation to expel the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham (ISIS) from the Iraqi-Syrian border.
my educated guess US is trying to remodel middle est by creating one Kurdistan state same time eliminating 4 problems? Iran/Iraq/Syria and Turkey?
This would explain sorry letter of Erdo and tart Russo-Turkish negotiations. Not thet Erdo wants to sell Turkomans for 30 tomatoes.
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the Albo Kamal offensive is good for the SAA this will hopefully divert ISIS troops from Deir ez Zoir towards Albo Kamal thus relieving pressure from the SAA in Deir ez Zoir as well killing some ISIS. One thing worries me if ISIS cant retreat towards Iraq then they may get really desperate and just go on a killing spree of civilians as they seem to be sore losers. They will most likely flee towards Turkey now if that hasn't been sealed in the next few months
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d_taddei2 wrote:........ One thing worries me if ISIS can retreat towards Iraq then they may get really desperate and just go on a killing spree of civilians as they seem to be sore losers. They will most likely flee towards Turkey now if that hasn't been sealed in the next few months
Those dicks are definition of sore losers.
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This New Syrian Army is bad news. Since US special forces are embedded in them, they are stealing Syrian territory. If they attack SAA in Deir es Zor, there won't be anything Russia can do about that since Russia would not start a shooting war with the US.
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Russia needs to be vigilant about Latakia. China is exporting thousands of Uyghur terrorists to Latakia to kill Russians. Don't forget, Russia lost in Afghanistan because China supplied huge amounts of arms to mujahideen to kill Russians. There have already been attacks in Latakia and Tartus. If terrorists reach Jableh, it would be difficult to defend the base in Latakia.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jihadists-launch-new-offensive-northern-latakia/
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jihadists-launch-new-offensive-northern-latakia/
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#NSyAA have captured an abandoned airstrip near Albo Kamal, clashes in city between #IS vs sleeper cells & tribesmen
al-Hamdan village, airbase & al-Sukari have been captured by #NSyA, claims that they captured several #IS & suffered no casualties
There was some speculations about Shiites from Fallujah, that they will move up the Euphrat to Al-Qa'im and eventually cross border to Al-Bukamal, and then lift the siege of Deir el Zor.
To me it's looks like coalition is doing everything they can to stop this.
And some say that Shiites will go for Mosul first, that's just insane.
New Video Showing #NSyA Ally "#FSA Ahmad al-Abdo Martyr brigade" battle to liberate #Abu_Kamal
Will see how that's goes...
New Syrian Army has launched Operation"Earth Day" to take a first round military installations in Bukamal area and cut ISIS supply btw IR&SY
NSYA has very good relations with the ISF They're working with ISF for this offensive. Relations with shia PMU not so great
They're opposed to Assad, it's just not in their interest to fight Assad at this time. Plan is to seal iraq/syria border
so Shia PMU don't flood in to syria from iraq
al-Hamdan village, airbase & al-Sukari have been captured by #NSyA, claims that they captured several #IS & suffered no casualties
Foreign special forces helped & airborne missions were carried out in order to help #NSyA capture Airbase & close in on Albo Kamal
There was some speculations about Shiites from Fallujah, that they will move up the Euphrat to Al-Qa'im and eventually cross border to Al-Bukamal, and then lift the siege of Deir el Zor.
To me it's looks like coalition is doing everything they can to stop this.
And some say that Shiites will go for Mosul first, that's just insane.
New Video Showing #NSyA Ally "#FSA Ahmad al-Abdo Martyr brigade" battle to liberate #Abu_Kamal
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.465428&lon=40.912244&z=18&m=b#FSA "Force of the Martyr Ahmad al-Abdo" take control of 6 military pts in al-Bukamal city as well as the "Hospital"
Will see how that's goes...
New Syrian Army has launched Operation"Earth Day" to take a first round military installations in Bukamal area and cut ISIS supply btw IR&SY
NSYA has very good relations with the ISF They're working with ISF for this offensive. Relations with shia PMU not so great
They're opposed to Assad, it's just not in their interest to fight Assad at this time. Plan is to seal iraq/syria border
so Shia PMU don't flood in to syria from iraq
The deputy of the #IS wali/governor of Albo Kamal "Jamal al-'Essawi" (Abo Abdel Aziz) was killed in clashes with #US backed forces
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#FSA & #NSA troops liberated areas around #AbuKamal from #ISIS.
#US-airborne mission should be THE news.
New #Syria'n Army confirm airborne mission on Abu Kamal border town to #Iraq
"air dropped behind enemy lines"
Locationthey also claim took over of
Al Qaim Border Crossing & Husaybah on #Iraq'i territory
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.396508&lon=40.977309&z=16&m=b&show=/25117354/Al-Qaim-Border-Crossing
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calm wrote:#NSyAA have captured an abandoned airstrip near Albo Kamal, clashes in city between #IS vs sleeper cells & tribesmen
al-Hamdan village, airbase & al-Sukari have been captured by #NSyA, claims that they captured several #IS & suffered no casualties
Foreign special forces helped & airborne missions were carried out in order to help #NSyA capture Airbase & close in on Albo Kamal
There was some speculations about Shiites from Fallujah, that they will move up the Euphrat to Al-Qa'im and eventually cross border to Al-Bukamal, and then lift the siege of Deir el Zor.
To me it's looks like coalition is doing everything they can to stop this.
And some say that Shiites will go for Mosul first, that's just insane.
New Video Showing #NSyA Ally "#FSA Ahmad al-Abdo Martyr brigade" battle to liberate #Abu_Kamal
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=34.465428&lon=40.912244&z=18&m=b#FSA "Force of the Martyr Ahmad al-Abdo" take control of 6 military pts in al-Bukamal city as well as the "Hospital"
Will see how that's goes...
New Syrian Army has launched Operation"Earth Day" to take a first round military installations in Bukamal area and cut ISIS supply btw IR&SY
NSYA has very good relations with the ISF They're working with ISF for this offensive. Relations with shia PMU not so great
They're opposed to Assad, it's just not in their interest to fight Assad at this time. Plan is to seal iraq/syria border
so Shia PMU don't flood in to syria from iraq
The deputy of the #IS wali/governor of Albo Kamal "Jamal al-'Essawi" (Abo Abdel Aziz) was killed in clashes with #US backed forces
Shia PMU wasted thousands of American invaders in Iraq. You think they give a d about wasting New Syrian Army? Don't forget who took Fallujah. It wasn't the scardy cat Iraqi army. It was the Shia PMU.
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#IS claim 40 #NSyA militants killed & 15 captured & rest fled into desert after clashes in al-Hamdan AB @ Albo Kamal
#IS claims to have captured 6 vehicles/SUVs, 6 cars with weapons/ammunition & 12 reconnaissance drones
#NSyA spokesperson confirms retreat from outskirts from Albo Kamal and into the desert
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People should not forget how ISIS captured northern IRAQ without firing a shot.
Basically hundred of millions in weapons ,that Americans provided to their guys ,
IRAQUI sunni fighters , "defending the northern border of IRAQ. They all ended Running
away without a fight and leaving all their equipment for ISIS to take it.
So one of the way Americans supply weapons to ISIS or Alqaeda , is by giving them
to Group A ,and this group is ordered to do a fake fight against Group B and then retreat
leaving all their brand new weapons behind. Turkey did exactly this trick. A small group enter
in Syria to "fight ISIS" , with a major supply of weapons and with the "bad luck" they were ambushed ,and run away to Turkey leaving behind all their weapons to ISIS.
So this staged mistakes ,have been repeated again and again by Americans and Turkey .
They also dropped weapons to ISIS "by mistake" too , from Air cargo planes. So just like
9/11 WTC , the american government whenever they face questions of their support for
terrorism ,they come with the excuse of "mistake" and didn't saw this or that .Moral of the story
US gov is NOT fighting ISIS neither Alqaeda. The will not fight their own guys .,specially when allows Turkey and Saudis to keep arming them. regardless of Russia evidence of Turkey alliance with ISIS. They can create a show here or there or could bomb any terrorist that Rebel against Americans rules of war in Syria. Like when ISIS attacked Kurds at the orders of Erdogan ,that was not part of the plan. or when Saudi ISIS began to Fight Qatar sponsored alnusra, for a small period for looting rights.
Israel not even deny they prefer ISIS to Asad and ask every time for arming ISIS.
which is what they doing. check how this zionist neocon says Thanks God for ISIS openly in thei conference sharing their views and cheerlead their one world government project.
he says Thanks God for ISIS..
Just in case people had any doubt of how fake is the war against terrorism whether the war against Alqaeda or ISIS by Neocons and zionist elite. There have been rivalry between terrorist Groups and between Its sponsors ,like Turkey vs Americans , one wants to see kurds killed too with Syrians ,the other wants to see Kurds stronger . But Averall , there is not such a thing like US or its coalition fighting ISIS. they are not even bombed at all ,and ignored. The usual bombing of americans is on empty zones and Russia military even reported of American dropping bombs in remote zones of Syria ,where no conflicts have ever happened and no people there ,only in desolated places.. where there is nothing. As if all they wanted was to waste a bomb in the sand and force the congress to assign
more money for more weapons..
Basically hundred of millions in weapons ,that Americans provided to their guys ,
IRAQUI sunni fighters , "defending the northern border of IRAQ. They all ended Running
away without a fight and leaving all their equipment for ISIS to take it.
So one of the way Americans supply weapons to ISIS or Alqaeda , is by giving them
to Group A ,and this group is ordered to do a fake fight against Group B and then retreat
leaving all their brand new weapons behind. Turkey did exactly this trick. A small group enter
in Syria to "fight ISIS" , with a major supply of weapons and with the "bad luck" they were ambushed ,and run away to Turkey leaving behind all their weapons to ISIS.
So this staged mistakes ,have been repeated again and again by Americans and Turkey .
They also dropped weapons to ISIS "by mistake" too , from Air cargo planes. So just like
9/11 WTC , the american government whenever they face questions of their support for
terrorism ,they come with the excuse of "mistake" and didn't saw this or that .Moral of the story
US gov is NOT fighting ISIS neither Alqaeda. The will not fight their own guys .,specially when allows Turkey and Saudis to keep arming them. regardless of Russia evidence of Turkey alliance with ISIS. They can create a show here or there or could bomb any terrorist that Rebel against Americans rules of war in Syria. Like when ISIS attacked Kurds at the orders of Erdogan ,that was not part of the plan. or when Saudi ISIS began to Fight Qatar sponsored alnusra, for a small period for looting rights.
Israel not even deny they prefer ISIS to Asad and ask every time for arming ISIS.
which is what they doing. check how this zionist neocon says Thanks God for ISIS openly in thei conference sharing their views and cheerlead their one world government project.
he says Thanks God for ISIS..
Just in case people had any doubt of how fake is the war against terrorism whether the war against Alqaeda or ISIS by Neocons and zionist elite. There have been rivalry between terrorist Groups and between Its sponsors ,like Turkey vs Americans , one wants to see kurds killed too with Syrians ,the other wants to see Kurds stronger . But Averall , there is not such a thing like US or its coalition fighting ISIS. they are not even bombed at all ,and ignored. The usual bombing of americans is on empty zones and Russia military even reported of American dropping bombs in remote zones of Syria ,where no conflicts have ever happened and no people there ,only in desolated places.. where there is nothing. As if all they wanted was to waste a bomb in the sand and force the congress to assign
more money for more weapons..
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Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8
This comes from VT, which we all know can be all over the place sometimes so is often dismissed. Read it from that perspective but bear in mind that they seem to know what they are talking about on some subjects and Syria is one of them. Given the opposing forces in the area and all the external forces amongst them it was probably reasonable to think that something like this was likely to happen sometime. Maybe this is that time, maybe not, if it is you won't be reading about it in the MSM.
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Two news stories today, least of which is the downing of a Syrian SU 22 by the al Islam Army, a Saudi Arabian paid force armed with American Stinger type missiles and Russian SAM 7s. Another Syrian jet was downed in Idlib ten days ago. The second story is an American disaster, one being kept secret, a botched operation at the Iraqi/Syrian border that represents the kind of intelligence failure easily predicted when allies like Israel, Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, who all took part in the planning, are deeply invested in an American failure. We begin.
A combined US, British airborne special operation in remote Eastern Syria, at the confluence of the Euphrates River and the border with Iraq, went very wrong and will not be reported. American and British “technicians” were captured along with Jordanian advisors and 20 survivors of the US trained New Syrian Army which was virtually wiped out during the botched operation.
A unit of the US trained New Syrian Army was wiped out on an attack on an ISIS controlled agricultural airstrip at al Bukamal, a short distance from the Iraqi border and the city of al Qa’im.
Our sources at the scene describe the operation which began with a two day long 200 plus mile convoy that moved up from the CIA training center at the Syrian-Jordanian border north to attack ISIS. They were joined by American and British special operations advisors, US Army Special Forces and British SAS, who parachuted in just before the attack.
The attack, at dawn June 30, began with the New Syrian Army seizing the small airport at Bukamal, an agricultural airstrip converted to an ISIS underground command center. This was followed by an American bombing attack across a number of “targets” in the area. Then the Americans dropped leaflets advising locals to leave the area. ISIS did not leave, not hardly, they were waiting.
Before the New Syrian Army and their American, British and Jordanian advisors could consolidate, up to 400 ISIS fighters came out of tunnels that stretch all the way across the border to al Qa’im in Iraq and quickly mopped up the entire group taking as many prisoners as possible.
Along with the prisoners, ISIS seized the entire convoy of vehicles along with radios and weapons. A deep suspicion is now being accepted at the Pentagon, that ISIS has been trained by US and British advisors, rumored to be with L3 Corporation, Dyncorp and others, over not weeks but years, under the guise of putting together a special operations combined force to protect the Gulf States. American trainers were paid $350k per year to train a force seen only twice, once during the Benghazi attack and now, as the core cadres of ISIS.
There should be no surprise at the things ISIS accomplishes, considering their best were trained to US Army Special Forces standards with tens of millions spent. As to who was politically behind this is another story. None of the funding was American, not officially anyway. VT knows those who worked on the project and we were not told but had so much money thrown at us that we couldn’t easily refuse.
Since the first outing for ISIS was the Benghazi attack, with clear overtones of a combined CIA op in coordination, and our sources here are impeccable, with traitorous right wing pro-Israeli American billionaires, we can now clearly see the treasonous role the CIA is playing in Syria and Iraq and better understand the current “waffling” of Erdogan and his strong desire to get as far away from this as he can.
There is a total information crackdown on this debacle, a major American failure and a huge failure for President Obama. Everyone with information about this has been taken into custody or silenced, this is that serious.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/01/exclusive-american-special-forces-sas-captured-by-isis-at-al-bukamal-syria/
By Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Two news stories today, least of which is the downing of a Syrian SU 22 by the al Islam Army, a Saudi Arabian paid force armed with American Stinger type missiles and Russian SAM 7s. Another Syrian jet was downed in Idlib ten days ago. The second story is an American disaster, one being kept secret, a botched operation at the Iraqi/Syrian border that represents the kind of intelligence failure easily predicted when allies like Israel, Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, who all took part in the planning, are deeply invested in an American failure. We begin.
A combined US, British airborne special operation in remote Eastern Syria, at the confluence of the Euphrates River and the border with Iraq, went very wrong and will not be reported. American and British “technicians” were captured along with Jordanian advisors and 20 survivors of the US trained New Syrian Army which was virtually wiped out during the botched operation.
A unit of the US trained New Syrian Army was wiped out on an attack on an ISIS controlled agricultural airstrip at al Bukamal, a short distance from the Iraqi border and the city of al Qa’im.
Our sources at the scene describe the operation which began with a two day long 200 plus mile convoy that moved up from the CIA training center at the Syrian-Jordanian border north to attack ISIS. They were joined by American and British special operations advisors, US Army Special Forces and British SAS, who parachuted in just before the attack.
The attack, at dawn June 30, began with the New Syrian Army seizing the small airport at Bukamal, an agricultural airstrip converted to an ISIS underground command center. This was followed by an American bombing attack across a number of “targets” in the area. Then the Americans dropped leaflets advising locals to leave the area. ISIS did not leave, not hardly, they were waiting.
Before the New Syrian Army and their American, British and Jordanian advisors could consolidate, up to 400 ISIS fighters came out of tunnels that stretch all the way across the border to al Qa’im in Iraq and quickly mopped up the entire group taking as many prisoners as possible.
Along with the prisoners, ISIS seized the entire convoy of vehicles along with radios and weapons. A deep suspicion is now being accepted at the Pentagon, that ISIS has been trained by US and British advisors, rumored to be with L3 Corporation, Dyncorp and others, over not weeks but years, under the guise of putting together a special operations combined force to protect the Gulf States. American trainers were paid $350k per year to train a force seen only twice, once during the Benghazi attack and now, as the core cadres of ISIS.
There should be no surprise at the things ISIS accomplishes, considering their best were trained to US Army Special Forces standards with tens of millions spent. As to who was politically behind this is another story. None of the funding was American, not officially anyway. VT knows those who worked on the project and we were not told but had so much money thrown at us that we couldn’t easily refuse.
Since the first outing for ISIS was the Benghazi attack, with clear overtones of a combined CIA op in coordination, and our sources here are impeccable, with traitorous right wing pro-Israeli American billionaires, we can now clearly see the treasonous role the CIA is playing in Syria and Iraq and better understand the current “waffling” of Erdogan and his strong desire to get as far away from this as he can.
There is a total information crackdown on this debacle, a major American failure and a huge failure for President Obama. Everyone with information about this has been taken into custody or silenced, this is that serious.
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/07/01/exclusive-american-special-forces-sas-captured-by-isis-at-al-bukamal-syria/
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Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8
i cant hardly believe the real planners of the operation ,wanted to crush ISIS at all.
There are reports from journalist in Syria of major fake battles going in Syria and IRAQ
between Kurds and ISIS. Basically Pentagon strategy in Syria and IRAQ ,goes this way. Americans help ISIS or ALqaeda takes territory away from Syria or IRAQ. Later Pro American Kurds takes this territory away from ISIS and Alqaeda. And there have been transfer of lands between ISIS and Kurds with a shake of hands. If anyone look at the Syrian map , the kurds
have been the Major winner of the conflict. because Kurds have increased its territory more than 10x fold ,since the conflict began , and then you see ISIS and neither Alqaeda generally speaking
do not seek to capture Kurds territory near the Turkey border.
So Kurds are part of the game. However this plan does not happen always the way is planned.
Because Turkey does not want kurds to take control of all Syrian Border. which they could use to create a new Kurdistan state ,that will only encourage kurds in Turkey to do the same.
So if i was to guess , the real plan of the American operation ,was to justify the passing of
advanced American equipment to ISIS ,including radars and air defenses or tanks and including with their operators of the advanced equipment.,and later justify it by saying , "they lost it in combat". To make things more real , even american soldiers could be betrayed by its own military and some ISIS fighters sacrificed. So fights here or there between US and ISIS are merely a distraction . If Obama wanted to really stop ISIS , it will do 2 things..
1) will visit Saudi Arabia and Turkey and call them to shutdown the operation , shut
down satellite communications to ISIS and internet and no longer supply food to them or munitions and demand them to leave Syria and IRAQ.
2)Join Russia operation and make peace with Assad.
But they don't do it because Americans role in Syria and IRAQ is to get the war going
forever ,sabotage any attempt of Russia to defeat the terrorist and exhaust Russia and Syria
there. Make them fail.
Many of ISIS terrorist ,are recruited directly by the CIA ,and their names and families all that is know , so none of this foreign terrorist will be able to return to their homeland in Europe or any part of the world ,or even get out of Syria , if they do not obey their American and Saudi masters. The war will be impossible to continue if Turkey and kurds totally block ISIS supply lines. So they will starve to death and will be unable to continue the war without supplies and munition and satellite logistics from NATO.
So the fact that Obama totally ignore ISIS and Alnusra endless supply lines from Turkey,Jordan and ISrael ,shows he is not really interested in defeating ISIS or Alqaeda in any way.
Never forget American government are masters of distraction and deception. Is not less true
however that many in the US military and the American government are not exactly happy with each other. So the story could be correct , that it was a "failure". But it could also be all a setup,
to justify any report that surface of Americans fighting in the side of ISIS , because they are "At gun point" and hostage. The major signature of a CIA job , is to observe how they cover always their excuses with "unfortunate events" and "mistakes." . weapons dropped by "mistake" here or there . People need to look no further to World trade center 9/11 2001 ,that still so many people in this forum believe ,many with good knowledge in military ,that still think
today it was a terrorist attack and not an inside job as it was. with mountains of evidence to proof it , just like the Syrian fake war against terrorism by NATO.
Israel is the only nation not denying that it wants to help ISIS. their only lie is not saying they have been doing that since the conflict began. McAIN meeting with ISIS leader and Alnusra
commanders in 2013-2014 should be an eye opening for anyone about in which side United
States really is in the Syrian and IRAQ conflict,and which rebels they really backup.
ISIS+Alnusra+Free Syrian army.. like brothers in the same place.
Another interesting fact about ISIS leader is that he is an Israeli citizen.
and that the former french foreign minister in on record saying the civil war in Syria was planned years before it began .and he personally was invited by british politicians ,to help in the recruitment of Islamic armed jihadist (ISIS) to invade Syria to overthrow Assad.
So only when Obama make peace with Assad ,label all moderates as terrorist and join Russia to fight them , and recognize the territorial integrity of Syria ,and their rights to fight any armed
jihadist ,is when we could be sure of a major change and total reverse of US policy in Syria.
But as long Obama continues demanding Russia to not bomb terrorist ,and accusing Assad
of warcrimes or bombing civilians ,you can be sure they are still aiding ISIS and Alqaeda
and not really fighting them.
There are reports from journalist in Syria of major fake battles going in Syria and IRAQ
between Kurds and ISIS. Basically Pentagon strategy in Syria and IRAQ ,goes this way. Americans help ISIS or ALqaeda takes territory away from Syria or IRAQ. Later Pro American Kurds takes this territory away from ISIS and Alqaeda. And there have been transfer of lands between ISIS and Kurds with a shake of hands. If anyone look at the Syrian map , the kurds
have been the Major winner of the conflict. because Kurds have increased its territory more than 10x fold ,since the conflict began , and then you see ISIS and neither Alqaeda generally speaking
do not seek to capture Kurds territory near the Turkey border.
So Kurds are part of the game. However this plan does not happen always the way is planned.
Because Turkey does not want kurds to take control of all Syrian Border. which they could use to create a new Kurdistan state ,that will only encourage kurds in Turkey to do the same.
So if i was to guess , the real plan of the American operation ,was to justify the passing of
advanced American equipment to ISIS ,including radars and air defenses or tanks and including with their operators of the advanced equipment.,and later justify it by saying , "they lost it in combat". To make things more real , even american soldiers could be betrayed by its own military and some ISIS fighters sacrificed. So fights here or there between US and ISIS are merely a distraction . If Obama wanted to really stop ISIS , it will do 2 things..
1) will visit Saudi Arabia and Turkey and call them to shutdown the operation , shut
down satellite communications to ISIS and internet and no longer supply food to them or munitions and demand them to leave Syria and IRAQ.
2)Join Russia operation and make peace with Assad.
But they don't do it because Americans role in Syria and IRAQ is to get the war going
forever ,sabotage any attempt of Russia to defeat the terrorist and exhaust Russia and Syria
there. Make them fail.
Many of ISIS terrorist ,are recruited directly by the CIA ,and their names and families all that is know , so none of this foreign terrorist will be able to return to their homeland in Europe or any part of the world ,or even get out of Syria , if they do not obey their American and Saudi masters. The war will be impossible to continue if Turkey and kurds totally block ISIS supply lines. So they will starve to death and will be unable to continue the war without supplies and munition and satellite logistics from NATO.
So the fact that Obama totally ignore ISIS and Alnusra endless supply lines from Turkey,Jordan and ISrael ,shows he is not really interested in defeating ISIS or Alqaeda in any way.
Never forget American government are masters of distraction and deception. Is not less true
however that many in the US military and the American government are not exactly happy with each other. So the story could be correct , that it was a "failure". But it could also be all a setup,
to justify any report that surface of Americans fighting in the side of ISIS , because they are "At gun point" and hostage. The major signature of a CIA job , is to observe how they cover always their excuses with "unfortunate events" and "mistakes." . weapons dropped by "mistake" here or there . People need to look no further to World trade center 9/11 2001 ,that still so many people in this forum believe ,many with good knowledge in military ,that still think
today it was a terrorist attack and not an inside job as it was. with mountains of evidence to proof it , just like the Syrian fake war against terrorism by NATO.
Israel is the only nation not denying that it wants to help ISIS. their only lie is not saying they have been doing that since the conflict began. McAIN meeting with ISIS leader and Alnusra
commanders in 2013-2014 should be an eye opening for anyone about in which side United
States really is in the Syrian and IRAQ conflict,and which rebels they really backup.
ISIS+Alnusra+Free Syrian army.. like brothers in the same place.
Another interesting fact about ISIS leader is that he is an Israeli citizen.
and that the former french foreign minister in on record saying the civil war in Syria was planned years before it began .and he personally was invited by british politicians ,to help in the recruitment of Islamic armed jihadist (ISIS) to invade Syria to overthrow Assad.
So only when Obama make peace with Assad ,label all moderates as terrorist and join Russia to fight them , and recognize the territorial integrity of Syria ,and their rights to fight any armed
jihadist ,is when we could be sure of a major change and total reverse of US policy in Syria.
But as long Obama continues demanding Russia to not bomb terrorist ,and accusing Assad
of warcrimes or bombing civilians ,you can be sure they are still aiding ISIS and Alqaeda
and not really fighting them.
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Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8
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Re: Syrian Civil War: News #8
Russia votes against UNHRC resolution placing all blame on Syrian government
China, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and Algeria also voted against the resolution
GENEVA, July 1. /TASS/. Russia has voted against a United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) resolution on Syria which blames this country’s authorities for the ongoing crisis.
The Russian delegation drew attention to the tenacious unwillingness of the document’s initiators to admit that the ongoing mass atrocities, murders and tortures in Syria are rooted in "the activities of jihadists." "They are not only Islamic State and Jabhat al-Nusra [both outlawed in Russia as terrorist organizations] but also a whole spectrum of less known but no less criminal illegal armed groups," Alexey Goltyayev, a member of the Russian delegation, said at the 32nd session of the United Nations Security Council on Friday.
He expressed regret that the initiators of the resolution "do not reckon with this objective reality." "With tenacity worthy of better uses, they are seeking to commit to paper in a Council resolution the interpretation of the developments which places all the blame for the ongoing crisis in Syria on the authorities of that country," the Russian diplomat said.
He noted that the document overlooks such serious aspects of the human rights situation in Syria as adverse impacts of unilateral economic sanctions, looting in territories that are not controlled by the government and shipping of the plundered properties abroad, and ongoing support to terrorists and extremists from abroad. "Despite the fact that the Council has been adopting resolutions on Syria at its each session in the past five years, we see no positive effect of this initiative," Goltyayev said. "It in no way promotes peace settlement of the situation and undermines the fragile political process currently underway with the mediation of the United Nations and the International Syria Support Group."
The resolution won support from 27 countries, including member countries of the European Union, as well as Georgia, Mongolia and the majority of Arab countries. Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and Algeria voted against. Fourteen countries, including Kyrgyzstan, India, Vietnam and South Africa, abstained.
More:
http://tass.ru/en/politics/886086
China, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and Algeria also voted against the resolution
GENEVA, July 1. /TASS/. Russia has voted against a United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC) resolution on Syria which blames this country’s authorities for the ongoing crisis.
The Russian delegation drew attention to the tenacious unwillingness of the document’s initiators to admit that the ongoing mass atrocities, murders and tortures in Syria are rooted in "the activities of jihadists." "They are not only Islamic State and Jabhat al-Nusra [both outlawed in Russia as terrorist organizations] but also a whole spectrum of less known but no less criminal illegal armed groups," Alexey Goltyayev, a member of the Russian delegation, said at the 32nd session of the United Nations Security Council on Friday.
He expressed regret that the initiators of the resolution "do not reckon with this objective reality." "With tenacity worthy of better uses, they are seeking to commit to paper in a Council resolution the interpretation of the developments which places all the blame for the ongoing crisis in Syria on the authorities of that country," the Russian diplomat said.
He noted that the document overlooks such serious aspects of the human rights situation in Syria as adverse impacts of unilateral economic sanctions, looting in territories that are not controlled by the government and shipping of the plundered properties abroad, and ongoing support to terrorists and extremists from abroad. "Despite the fact that the Council has been adopting resolutions on Syria at its each session in the past five years, we see no positive effect of this initiative," Goltyayev said. "It in no way promotes peace settlement of the situation and undermines the fragile political process currently underway with the mediation of the United Nations and the International Syria Support Group."
The resolution won support from 27 countries, including member countries of the European Union, as well as Georgia, Mongolia and the majority of Arab countries. Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia and Algeria voted against. Fourteen countries, including Kyrgyzstan, India, Vietnam and South Africa, abstained.
More:
http://tass.ru/en/politics/886086