Zionist conspiracies

OK have some spare time now, now to carry on this conversation:

GarryB wrote:Withdraw support for Israel and all the media networks largely ignore him... think that is a coincidence?

Had no idea that he was ignored - seemed like he had some support there not only among parts of the public, but also some more influential elements too.

Well anyway, Ron Paul advocates or argues against a hell of a lot of things; basically redrawing America's foreign and domestic policies completely - and this all goes far beyond just the issue of withdrawing support from Israel.

Now, America's media networks are largely controlled by just 2-3 oligarchs. So somewhere along the line he must have said something or some things to piss them off or some of their friends in the elite (including of course their pals in the Arms industry and Oil/gas companies who thrive of American interventionism and 'subscription' of new customers). And there we go. Could have been to do with Israel, could have been to do with something else, could have been a combination of things.

They might think so, but that didn't help them in Somalia or Vietnam. The reality is that they can't just do exactly what they want, when they want to. There are plenty of things they simply wont try.

I think as of 2012 the West is willing to try anything - they think they have the whole world by the balls and throughout the last 10 years have just been expanding their influence, pushing the limits and testing the water so to speak. The world has remained silent and said nothing.

We could be in for a new wave of Western colonisation or attempted colonization as what started in the 18th century; and it has become necessary because the Western system and values are loosing out, and are no longer dominant as economic powers rise in Asia, South America, etc...

Hamas and HezB are no threat to the US... they are threats to Israel. Iran is a problem because it doesn't let western oil companies steal their oil.

It's all tied together - one way or the other Israel is very tightly tied to America; so it may that an attack on Israel is perceived as an attack on America, or something like that. There are plenty of Zionist-Jews among the American elite, and American politicians are always keen to get the support of the Jewish lobby in order to gain power for themselves. So I can definitely see what you mean - but still this is quite different to Israel controlling America and telling it what to do. What should be also noted is that Israelis and American Jews are actually - 2 separate groups of people. If Israel had it's way - I think there would be a lot less support of America towards Arabian Islamist monarchies, Islamist rebels, etc... It should also be noted that some of Israel's interests conflict with that of America, such as pursuing closer ties to China and Russia. When in the past Israel has crossed a red-line in this regard (e.g. selling fighter tech to China), America has never been shy about showing Israel, just who wears the trousers in their relationship.

American Jews - influential as they are; are simply one interest groups out of many that collectively make up the American system of values and sympathies in foreign policy. America just has a soft spot for small countries; it probably wasn't much in America's interest to let the Irish-Americans supply weapons to the IRA in the 70s (an event you previously mentioned) who were fighting against the British, one of America's closest allies; but it let them anyway. Similarly, it probably wasn't in America's interests to push through the act on recognition of the Armenian genocide and risk ruining relations with Turkey; a vital US ally; yet congress did it anyway - and as opposed to American support of Israel here the considerations were purely that of appeasing the powerful domestic Armenian lobby; helping or building up ties with the very much pro-Russian, strategically insignificant nation of Armenia was very much not a factor in anything. Simply put - the senators in the congress were motivated by their own political ambition, rather than any far-sighted conception of foreign policy; and it is vital to understand these sorts of things if we are to understand America properly and how it works.

Imagine... the US admit one if its allies can do wrong?
Someone might suspect they were human...

Point is, they would have nothing to gain from doing so. In this respect, I don't think America is really any different to the rest of the world.

They are very much like an egotistical Borg that thinks they know everything and are the centre of civilisation... their job is no longer to absorb technology and knowledge but to absorb cultures by converting them into Borg nations where every adult owns at least one car and will use it for the shortest of trips, while spending more than they spend in the third world on food for a year on a gym membership because it is important to stay healthy... do I really need to continue?

No, you don't need to continue, we are in complete agreement

The question you have to ask youself... what on earth is so valuable about Israel that makes her US ally number one above Japan, UK, ...any other country on the planet!

What is so valuable about that little strip of Palestine where 6 million Jews live?

They don't give a sh!t about the millions of jews in Iran or anywhere else in the ME... it is just Jews in Zion they have a big hard on for... except it is Israel that is the daddy in this little relationship.

Thing is, not only are those countries already in firm pro-Western zones (well with the rise of China, supporting Japan may increasingly become a foreign policy priority of America), and those regions are currently not as strategically vital as the Middle East, but also these countries are not involved in a constant state of semi-warfare, and are in fact, perfectly capable of taking care of any problems themselves.

In the case of the Middle East though, supporting non-Arab peoples in a sea of potentially hostile Arab states, is a good way to gain some dependable allies that would always be willing to host US troops and fighter jets if the need calls for it, no matter what else.

GarryB wrote:Why not? Obama made it to the White house promising change. It didn't happen.
Perhaps a fundamental rethink really is what it needed.
Reducing taxes and printing more money and spending doesn't seemed to have worked...

Come on GazB, I think you know better Obama was just a creation of some well-funded media machines, he was never an independent politician with his own ideas, just a different colour wrapper over the same tired package. Re-branding I believe it's called, a widely-used technique in sales/marketing.

All the Arabian monarchies were created in the 1920s by Britain and France. They are creations of colonial powers, which is what keeps them subservient to the west. All the countries in the ME were created in a very short period, and the boundaries were based on Britain and France carving up the known oilfields.

The Zionist Jews tollerate the Arabic monarchies because they know the alternative would be religious and most likely very anti Zionist.

Well can't argue with that. It's all outrageous and despicable - even if I refuse to believe that America is more about Zionism than it is about making money for big businesses and (literally) conquering new markets.

Respect is not a tangible gain. Perhaps the next time America is lecturing a country about its human rights record, that countries government official might bother hiding the yawn if it was clear the US at least tried to practice what it preaches. Sadly, the reality is that the US is full of Sht and its hands are covered in more blood than any other country on the planet, both directly and indirectly.

It's definitely not the only country with blood on it's hands, but for sure - relative to its sheer power and might, it's behaving very irresponsibly and violently, as are some of it's allies. And when a country like America decides to stomp around - the end results are going to look a lot worse then let's say if Saddam decided to behave the same way. Russia and China are also very powerful countries with fearsome military arsenals, yet they use this power very responsibly and humanely in comparison to the Western bloc.

That doesn't make sense.
The ME is a strategic region for one reason... oil. By making Israel friend number one, you instantly create friction in US relations with all the other countries in the region... including those with oil and those without.
At the end of the day it would make much more sense to support the Arabs against Israel. Except that the Zionist lobby is too powerful in the US and the west. They refuse to distinguish between Judaism and Zionism so being anti Israel makes you a nazi and all the guilt of WWII is brought up again.

All the Arabs united have power; oil, manpower, religious influence. And this holds true even if every single Arab government is a Western puppet, firstly because the population always has the capability to overthrow these puppet governments, and secoundly because even this puppet-arrangment relies on the co-operation and appeasement of the Arab elite/aristocracy, and if this elite suddenly finds that American military power is no longer absolutely necessary to keep them on the throne, or otherwise not really all that necessary for them at all; then they might start getting ideas, might decide to raise the price of oil, might decide to invite the Chinese and Russians in, might decide that they want to expand their influence even more among Muslim minorities in Western Europe, might decide that they want to fan some anti-Western nationalism in order to cover their own ass and lessen the chance that their own people will depose them. All of this is possible, if not right now then perhaps 5-10 years from now.

The Israelis on the other hand (and the Kurds, etc...) are up against the wall - they know that they are in a sea of Arabs, they know that they need American military support, they know that they have no leverage to use - and for that reason; they are loyal allies that can always be counted upon, whereas the Arabs are not. That the population is largely Western by mentality and has no chance of rising up, revolting and bringing to power an anti-Western regime is also a plus.

If the Russians could harness half the power the Juice get from that they would be in a much better situation.

We don't need it, we are not a small people, who were nearly exterminated just as a result of an organized 4-5 year campaign. Anti-semitism accusations are a powerful tool, but it must be realised that it is primarily a defensive measure. For all of the power of holocaust guilt; Anti-semitism itself as a force remains even more mighty and fearsome, even if it's just on the back-burner for the moment.

From flamming_python

"The Israelis on the other hand (and the Kurds, etc...) are up against the wall - they know that they are in a sea of Arabs, they know that they need American military support, they know that they have no leverage to use - and for that reason; they are loyal allies that can always be counted upon, whereas the Arabs are not. That the population is largely Western by mentality and has no chance of rising up, revolting and bringing to power an anti-Western regime is also a plus".


Cockooland mate – that’s where you are. Completely delusional and brainwashed by the Joo lies and deceptions.

Firstly, the bastard State of Izrehell has no legal right to exist. It came about through a backroom deal between Clem Wiessman and Lord Balfour in 1916 when Germany had all but won the war. The Joos told the Brits not to surrender and promised Merikan support [remember the Merkian people had voted to stay out of the European war], if Britain would promise them Palestine. They also promised to bring Germany down from within – which they did. In return, the “secret” agreement was then tabled in Parliament almost two years after it was drafted and agreed. Joo influence in the UN ensured that in 1948 when the resolution was tabled – it was passed – that’s largely in sympathy for the Joo based on the Joo Holohoax lie.

The supposed Arab boggieman is a further Joo invention. Christians have much more in common with Arabs that they ever will have with Joos. For a start, Arabs acknowledge Jesus Christ – He is a major prophet to them, but Joos don’t acknowledge Jesus Christ, they had him crucified and have been trying to Kill off Christianity ever since. If stupid Christians could only get past the Joo lie that they are “God’s chosen people” they might see the Joo for what they are; and what Christ described them as – “of their father the devil”.

As for Merikan military support – that has been hijacked by the Joos since WW!. Stupid Merkians have trotted off to foreign war after foreign war because their Joo masters in the Administration has told them to go. If the Merikans were so independent, why Have they continually sent millions per year to Te Aviv? Guilt money?? For what???

You need to learn some history before writing this sort of emotive clap-trap.

The world would be a much safer place if we didn’t have the Joos and Izrehell.

Here is an article from a mainstream israeli paper.

We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish


Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.


Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.



We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.



Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.

In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.



Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate.



All these things are well-known to some extent or another, even though the former Soviet Union's archives have not yet been fully opened to the public.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

IN THE DARK NIGHT OF JULY 16 1918, Tzar Nicholas II and his pious Christian family were shot and bayoneted in cold blood by these Cheka Jews:

1. Jacob Yurovksy, a Jewish Czech
2. Sergei Medvedjev
3. Lev Nikulin, a Jewish Czech
4. Peter Yermakov
5. Fyodor Vaganov, a New York Jew
6. Jacob Sverdlov, (Yankel Solomon), the first President of the Soviet Union. He gave the order to murder the Royal Family. Sverdlov began his Anti Christian career when he joined the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party in 1902

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=62

THE LEADING JEWISH MURDERERS

a) Leon Bronstein (Trotsky), Commander of the Soviet Red Army.
b) Grigory Apfelbaum (Zinoviev), Director, Soviet Secret Police, seized Church-owned property, murdered tens of thousands of Orthodox Christians.

c) Maxim Wallach (Litvinov), Soviet Foreign Minister.

d) Solomon Lozovsky, Deputy Soviet Foreign Minister.

e) Yuri Andropov, Jewish Director of the Soviet KGB

A PROMINENT JEWISH JOURNALIST now admits that in 1934, 38% of those holding high office in Stalin’s murderous regime were Jews:

1. Lazar Moiseyevich Kaganovich: Millions of Orthodox Christians were murdered by order of Kaganovich. He orderered the destruction of hundreds of Christian churches including Christ The Saviour Cathedral in Moscow.

In 1991, after living the life of a prince, Kaganovich committed suicide in fear of the “open society,” that is, “glasnot” which would have exposed his murderous deeds.

2. Ilya Ehrenburg: Minister of Soviet Propaganda for Stalin. He wrote, “The Germans are not human beings. Nothing gives us greater joy than corpses of Germans.”

3. Yevgeny Khaldei: Red Army photographer. Born in the Ukraine of Jewish parents. He staged the raising of the Hammer & Sickle Flag in the German Reichstag in Berlin in 1945, the emblem of the slaughter of millions of peasants and Christians, describing it as “the Russian national symbol of justice, triumph, and revenge.”

http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=62

Haven’t got the time to do this justice at the moment so I’ll paraphrase quite a bit.

Communism was a Joo invention – the Rothschild’s said in the 1700’s “if you want to take money from the King, first you need to give him an enemy”. Joos have been doing that to the world ever since. They divide and conquer. Setting up two sides against each other and then backing both sides to that they will always be on the winner. [Like they did in the Sino/Russo War]. Marx set up communism as an enemy for capitalism and was supported by the Merikan Joos. European Joos financed the revolution.

Too much nonsense has been written about Lenin, Stalin etc and it has been written by the Joo press. The Joo Lenin was the largest mass murder in history – actually on his deathbed he recanted – but too late. The revolution and Communism was established by Joos – their aim was to destroy their Tsarist regime, Christianity and bring the world under domination of the Red Army. Stalin was the odd one out in the mix – he was not Joo and in fact was very anti-Semitic in his private moments. With Lenin’s death a power-struggle ensued and Stalin went about killing off his Joo opponents – who were incidentally, trying just as hard to kill off him. Stalin won the power struggle, and the Joos have labelled him a mass murder – because he killed off Joos by the hundreds – all the top people in the Communist party were Joo – there was even a term called “The Jooish Insurance Policy” for non-Joos, meaning that they took a Joo wife. Gradually, Stalin removed the Joo control of the party and there was stability until his death. Khrushchev was a Joo sympathiser and appeased his Joo controllers, ushering in a succession of wishy-washy leaders, culminating in the puppet Gorbachev – the biggest criminal in the History of the CCCP.

The aim here was for the Joos to collapse the Soviet Union so that it could now be pillaged by the Joo Banksters and their international companies. Communism had run it’s course and they have successfully instigated a new enemy “International Terrorism”. The Joos failed to take into account a new leader, a true Russian patriot – Putin! Putin is once again, carrying on the role of Stalin in resisting the Joo control and influence in Russia and returning Russia to her former glory – as a world superpower. Hence the assassination attempts against Putin. Putin has challenged the Joos head-on in his statement “He will protect Christian around the world”.

Russia has been a continual power-struggle – a struggle against unseen forces of evil, intent on destroying the country and offering it up for exploitation to the Joo banksters. That struggle continues today and we hope that Putin prevails; for the benefit of the world.

The lies about Stalin and the real force behind the Communist party need to be exposed – the Cheka and it’s mechanism was JOOISH. The atrocities committed by them were against Christians and anyone who would not serve their purpose. That was the real holocaust – not the Joo fairy tale against the Germans.!

Incidentally, now we witness the war crimes in Gaza, perpetrated by the Joo. They start the killing then complain that the opponent is fighting back!

Kysusha wrote:Haven’t got the time to do this justice at the moment so I’ll paraphrase quite a bit.

Communism was a Joo invention – the Rothschild’s said in the 1700’s “if you want to take money from the King, first you need to give him an enemy”. Joos have been doing that to the world ever since. They divide and conquer. Setting up two sides against each other and then backing both sides to that they will always be on the winner. [Like they did in the Sino/Russo War]. Marx set up communism as an enemy for capitalism and was supported by the Merikan Joos. European Joos financed the revolution.

Too much nonsense has been written about Lenin, Stalin etc and it has been written by the Joo press. The Joo Lenin was the largest mass murder in history – actually on his deathbed he recanted – but too late. The revolution and Communism was established by Joos – their aim was to destroy their Tsarist regime, Christianity and bring the world under domination of the Red Army. Stalin was the odd one out in the mix – he was not Joo and in fact was very anti-Semitic in his private moments. With Lenin’s death a power-struggle ensued and Stalin went about killing off his Joo opponents – who were incidentally, trying just as hard to kill off him. Stalin won the power struggle, and the Joos have labelled him a mass murder – because he killed off Joos by the hundreds – all the top people in the Communist party were Joo – there was even a term called “The Jooish Insurance Policy” for non-Joos, meaning that they took a Joo wife. Gradually, Stalin removed the Joo control of the party and there was stability until his death. Khrushchev was a Joo sympathiser and appeased his Joo controllers, ushering in a succession of wishy-washy leaders, culminating in the puppet Gorbachev – the biggest criminal in the History of the CCCP.

The aim here was for the Joos to collapse the Soviet Union so that it could now be pillaged by the Joo Banksters and their international companies. Communism had run it’s course and they have successfully instigated a new enemy “International Terrorism”. The Joos failed to take into account a new leader, a true Russian patriot – Putin! Putin is once again, carrying on the role of Stalin in resisting the Joo control and influence in Russia and returning Russia to her former glory – as a world superpower. Hence the assassination attempts against Putin. Putin has challenged the Joos head-on in his statement “He will protect Christian around the world”.

Russia has been a continual power-struggle – a struggle against unseen forces of evil, intent on destroying the country and offering it up for exploitation to the Joo banksters. That struggle continues today and we hope that Putin prevails; for the benefit of the world.

The lies about Stalin and the real force behind the Communist party need to be exposed – the Cheka and it’s mechanism was JOOISH. The atrocities committed by them were against Christians and anyone who would not serve their purpose. That was the real holocaust – not the Joo fairy tale against the Germans.!

Incidentally, now we witness the war crimes in Gaza, perpetrated by the Joo. They start the killing then complain that the opponent is fighting back!

Great post, I believe once the jews destroy all resistance in the mideast. They will next work on trying to take down Russia. I have noticed ''Russian'' Jews have NO loyal feelings to Russia. The Jews i believe in the end will try to get Nato/U.S. to attack Russia at some point in the future. And we all know the jews control the u.s. and nato.

And here I thought the Kenyans controlled the US, phew.

I don't really subscribe to the extreme Zionist conspiracies simply because the world is a bit more complicated than that, but you'd have to be deaf and blind not too see that the Jews have a massively disproportionate influence (political, financial, media...)in the world. For example, you have ZERO chance of becoming US president if you're proposing a more realistic US mid-east policy. Take Ron Paul's case. He had a genuine popular appeal among voters but was practically invisible in the media. And whenever he was on the TV, he was portrayed as some loony radical...

As far as Russia goes, most of the internal troubles or the negative Russian image in the western media is being financed and stoked by the exiled oligarchs like Berezovsky, who happen to be Jewish. A good example is the Litvinenko affair which was orchestrated by Berezovsky

The issue is the power behind the throne! I believe it was Rothschild who said he didn’t care for Princely palace, but give me the control of money and I will control the world!

Invariably, throughout history, it has been the Joo prerogative to manipulate money and people by their control of money. They have a total belief that anything, anyone can be bought with money. Joos will hitch their wagon to whatever horse they fell will be in their best interest – oftentimes harnessing several horses so as to not miss out on backing the winner – after all, it is only money that they are spending, and then, not their money but money that has been stolen from people through usury and manipulation of the money supply in world markets. Notice that the Bankisters all want “real value” when they seek security for loans – they want land! We’re not making any more land, but they continue to print monopoly money as though there was no tomorrow. So every time they manufacture a depression or rescission, they steal real value when their loans are called up. They don’t want money – money is really worthless – it is supported only by people’s greed. No they want the real worth – land, industries, resources etc.

To get this world control, they give money to gullible Goym who go about doing the Joo work. These are the Zionist of “other faiths” – you all know them –Churchill, the Bush family etc. These Zionist work hand in hand with the Joo Zionist to deliver the real wealth of the world to the Joo Zionist control. They do it for “wealth” – paper money and position – failing to realise that they are never the ones in control.

All of the current Middle East disaster is clearly spelt out in a Joo paper, delivered in the early 1980’s showing a strategic plan for how Isrehell can “secure her boarders”. [I can post a copy if anyone is interested]. In this strategic plan the aim is to destabilise powerful countries around them – or one that are seen as a potential threat [with powerful armies etc] by political turmoil, religious conflict and finally, insurrection [read terrorist support]. Once the country is fragmented it can no longer effectively operate as a unified force and be a threat to Isrehell. Merika, UK and the Frogs have been dealt too by breaking down the social fabric of their societies, forcing “integration” upon the countries and thus further ethnic strife, attacking any strong religious authority and engendering a Joo friendly/sympathetic mindset through total control of press and media.

Ah, the more I write about it, the more annoyed I get that people still can’t see what is happening. There are still so many people out there totally brainwashed by the Joo lies and stereotyping that they will never see the truth. Christ called the Joo, the great liar [also the term used for the devil in Scripture]. Christians have been so brainwashed by this divide and conquer approach and the great Joo lie that they are “God’s chosen people” – when actually Christ called them of your father the devil; that they fail to see that Christians and Muslims have much more in common than ever Christians and Joo will have.

How Christians can turn a blind eye to the continued war crimes perpetrated by the Joo in the Middle East and excuse it somehow in terms of Joo sympathy – is totally beyond me.

Kysusha wrote:
All of the current Middle East disaster is clearly spelt out in a Joo paper, delivered in the early 1980’s showing a strategic plan for how Isrehell can “secure her boarders”. [I can post a copy if anyone is interested]. In this strategic plan the aim is to destabilise powerful countries around them – or one that are seen as a potential threat [with powerful armies etc] by political turmoil, religious conflict and finally, insurrection [read terrorist support]. Once the country is fragmented it can no longer effectively operate as a unified force and be a threat to Isrehell. Merika, UK and the Frogs have been dealt too by breaking down the social fabric of their societies, forcing “integration” upon the countries and thus further ethnic strife, attacking any strong religious authority and engendering a Joo friendly/sympathetic mindset through total control of press and media.

I would appreciate source of this, not that is something new to me, the evidence and history is overwhelming and the hypo"crazy" is just a hard punch in the face we always have to face when zionist goverment telling the public, how much the juice have suffered and still suffering and that the worlds population are all Anti-semitic that just want to persecute jewish people and we don't have any other interests.

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Wherewolf, I’ll post the article, others may well be interested; if one takes the time to actually read it and understand it – it clearly lays out the total blue-print for all the Middle East conflict. But this is not a new phenomena – the Joo has been causing dissention in the world since Adam was a cowboy!

Anyone falling for or accepting the Joo lie of protestations of innocence is simply falling for their duplicity – they are past masters of lying – the ultimate liars; it is in their DNA – they have centuries of practice at it!

1744 C.E Hungary "Banned for the third time by Queen Maria Theresa. ""Henceforth, no Jew, no matter under what name, will be allowed to remain here without my written permission. I know of no other troublesome pest within the state than this race, which impoverishes the people by their fraud, usury and money-lending and commits all deeds which an honourable man despises. Subsequently, they have to be removed and excluded from here as much as possible."

Joos have been expelled 109 times from European countries since 250AD – why? – All for the very same reason as stated here by Queen Maria. They are lairs and trouble makers.

Does a leopard change it’s spots?? What make you think that the Joo of today is any different to the Joo of several centuries ago?? A look over world history will show their finger in all of the major troubles around the world – the mass killings of the innocents – The French Revolution, Civil Wars, Russian Revolution, World Wars and countless nameless acts of mindless terror and brutality around the world – all can be laid at the feet of the Joo. Yet there are millions who will still not believe what their eyes can show them – who will still believe the Joo lies ahead of reason and commonsense. Still, that is what is prophesied.

The credit for this post is: http://www.freearabvoice.org/ZionistConspiracy_DivideTheArabWorld.htm


The Zionist conspiracy to divide the Arab states into small units

The *FREE ARAB VOICE*
July 22, 2000

In 1982 the Hebrew-language magazine Kivunim (Directions), the official organ of the World Zionist Organization published an important article entitled, "A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties". The Editor of Kivunim is Yoram Beck, Head of Publications, Department of Information, of the World Zionist Organization. Also on the Editorial Committee of Kivunim is Amnon Hadary, a member of the Palmach during the 1948 atrocities. Israel Shahak, professor of organic chemistry at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, and chairman of the Israeli League for Human and Civil Rights translated the article into English and wrote the following foreword to it. It was published in 1982 as a pamphlet by the Association of Arab-American University graduates. Professor Shahak states:

The following essay represents, in my opinion, the accurate and detailed plan of the present Zionist regime for the Middle East which is based on the division of the whole area into small states, and the dissolution of all the existing Arab states. I will comment on the military aspect of this plan in a concluding note.

Here I want to draw the attention of the readers to several important points:

1 . The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, occurs again and again in Israeli strategic thinking. For example, Ze'ev Schiff, the military correspondent of Ha'aretz (and probably the most knowledgeable in Israel, on this topic) writes about the best that can happen for Israeli interests in Iraq :

"The dissolution of Iraq into a Shi'ite state, a Sunni state and the separation of the Kurdish part" (Ha'aretz, 2/6/1982). Actually this aspect of the plan is very old.

2. The strong connection with neo-Conservative thought in the USA is very prominent, especially in the author's notes. But, while lip service is paid to the idea of the defence of the West from Soviet power, the real aim of the author, and of the present Israeli establishment is clear: To make an imperial Israel into a world power. In other words, the aim of Sharon is to deceive the Americans after he has deceived all the rest.

3. It is obvious that much of the relevant data, both in the notes and in the text, is garbled or omitted, such as the financial help of the US to Israel. Much of it is pure fantasy. But, the plan is not to be regarded as not influential or as not capable of realization for a short time. The plan follows faithfully the geopolitical ideas current in Germany of 1890-1933, which were swallowed whole by Hitler and the Nazi movement, and determined their aims for East Europe. Those aims, especially the division of the existing states, were carried out in 1939-1941, and only an alliance on the global scale prevented their consolidation for a period of time. Israel Shahak Kivunim's plan states that all the Arab states are fragmented as follows:

"The Arab Muslim world, therefore, is not the major strategic problem which we shall face in the Eighties, despite the fact that it carries the main threat against Israel, due to its growing military might. This world, with its ethnic minorities, its factions and internal crises, which is astonishingly self-destructive, as we can see in Lebanon, in non-Arab Iran and now also in Syria, is unable to deal successfully with its fundamental problems and does not therefore constitute a real threat against the State of Israel in the long run, but only in the short run where its immediate military power has great importance. In the long run, this world will be unable to exist within its present framework in the areas around us without having to go through genuine revolutionary changes. The Moslem Arab World is built like a temporary house of cards put together by foreigners (France and Britain in the Nineteen Twenties), without the wishes and desires of the inhabitants having been taken into account. It was arbitrarily divided into 19 states, all made of combinations of minorities and ethnic groups which are hostile to one another, so that every Arab Moslem state nowadays faces ethnic social destruction from within, and in some a civil war is already raging. Most of the Arabs, ll8 million out of 170 million, live in Africa, mostly in Egypt (45 million today). Maghreb States:

“Apart from Egypt, all the Maghreb states are made up of a mixture of Arabs and non-Arab Berbers. In Algeria there is already a civil war raging in the Kabile mountains between the two nations in the country. Morocco and Algeria are at war with each other over Spanish Sahara, in addition to the internal struggle in each of them. Militant Islam endangers the integrity of Tunisia and Qaddafi organizes wars which are destructive from the Arab point of view, from a country which is sparsely populated and which cannot become a powerful nation. That is why he has been attempting unifications in the past with states that are more genuine, like Egypt and Syria.

Sudan:
Sudan, the most torn apart state in the Arab Moslem world today is built upon four groups hostile to each other, an Arab Muslim Sunni minority which rules over majority of non-Arab Africans, Pagans and Christians.

Egypt:
In Egypt there is a Sunni Muslim majority facing a large minority of Christians which is dominant in upper Egypt: some 7 million of them, so that even Sadat, in his speech on May 8, expressed the fear that they will want a state of their own. Something like a second Christian Lebanon in Egypt.

Syria:
All the Arab States east of Israel are torn apart, broken up and riddled with inner conflict even more than those of the Maghreb. Syria is fundamentally no different from Lebanon except in the strong military regime which rules it. But the real civil war taking place nowadays between the Sunni majority and the Shi'ite Alawi ruling minority (a mere 12 % of the population) testifies to the severity of the domestic trouble.

Iraq:
Iraq is, once again, no different in essence from its neighbours, although its majority is Shi'ite and the ruling minority Sunni. Sixty-five percent of the population has no say in politics, in which an elite of 20 percent holds the power. In addition there is a large Kurdish minority in the north, and if it weren't for the strength of the ruling regime, the army and the oil revenues, Iraq's future state would be no different than that of Lebanon in the past or of Syria today. The seeds of inner conflict and civil war are apparent today already, especially after the rise of Khomeini to power in Iran, a leader whom the Shi'ites in Iraq view as their natural leader.

Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and North Yemen:
All the Gulf principalities and Saudi Arabia are built upon a delicate house of sand in which there is only oil. In Kuwait, the Kuwaitis constitute only a quarter of the population. In Bahrain, the Shi'ites are the majority but are deprived of power. In the United Arab Emirates, Shi'ites are once again the majority but the Sunnis are in power. The same is true of Oman and North Yemen. Even in the Marxist South Yemen there is a sizable Shi'ite minority. In Saudi Arabia half the population is foreign, Egyptian and Yemenite, but a Saudi minority holds power.

Jordan:
Jordan is in reality Palestinian, ruled by a TransJordanian Bedouin minority, but most of the army and certainly the bureaucracy is now Palestinian. As a matter of fact Amman is as Palestinian as Nablus.

All of these countries have powerful armies, relatively speaking. But there is a problem there too. The Syrian army today is mostly Sunni with an Alawi officer corps, the Iraqi army Shi'ite with Sunni commanders. This has great significance in the long run, and that is why it will not be possible to retain the loyalty of the army for a long time except where it comes to the only common denominator: the hostility towards Israel, and today even that is insufficient."Israel's plan by Kivunim:

OPPORTUNITIES FOR ISRAEL TO IMPLEMENT ITS PLAN

"A sad and very stormy situation surrounds Israel and creates challenges for it, problems, risks but also far-reaching opportunities for the first time since 1967. Chances are that opportunities missed at that time will become achievable in the Eighties to an extent and along dimensions which we cannot even imagine today. The peace policy and the return of territories, through a dependence upon the US, precludes the realization of the new option created for us. Since 1967, all the governments of Israel have tied our national aims down to narrow political needs, on the one hand, and on the other to destructive opinions at home which neutralized our capacities both at home and abroad. Failing to take steps towards the Arab population in the new territories, acquired in the course of a war forced upon us, is the major strategic error committed by Israel on the morning after the Six Day War. We could have saved ourselves all the bitter and dangerous conflict since then if we had given Jordan to the Palestinians who live west of the Jordan river. By doing that we would have neutralized the Palestinian problem which we nowadays face, and to which we have found solutions that are really no solutions at all, such as territorial compromise or autonomy which amount, in fact, to the same thing. Today we suddenly face immense opportunities for transforming the situation thoroughly and this we must do in the coming decade otherwise we shall not survive as a state."

PLAN TO RE-CONQUER SINAI PENINSULA 0F EGYPT

"Regaining the Sinai peninsula with its present and potential resources is therefore a political priority which is obstructed by the Camp David and the peace agreements. The fault for that
lies of course with the present Israeli government and the governments which paved the road to the policy of territorial compromise, the Alignment governments since 1967. The Egyptians will not need to keep the peace treaty after the return of the Sinai and they will do all they can to return to the fold of the Arab world and to the USSR in order to gain support and military assistance. American aid is guaranteed only for a short while, for the terms of the peace and the weakening of the US both at home and abroad will bring about a reduction in aid. Without oil and the income from it, with the present enormous expenditure, we will not be able to get through 1982 under the present conditions and we will have to act in order to return the situation to the status quo which existed in Sinai prior to Sadat's visit and the mistaken peace agreement signed with him in March 1979. Israel will not unilaterally break the treaty, neither today, nor in 1982, unless it is very hard pressed economically and politically and Egypt provides Israel with the excuse to take the Sinai back into our hands for the fourth time in our short history. What is left, therefore, is the indirect option. The economic situation in Egypt, the nature of the regime and its pan-Arab policy, will bring about a situation after April 1982 in which Israel will be forced to act directly or indirectly in order to regain control over Sinai as a strategic, economic and energy reserve for the long run. Egypt does not constitute a military strategic problem due to its internal conflicts and it
could be driven back to the post 1967 war situation in no more than one day." Israel's plans to fragment the Arab States are outlined "Egypt:

Egypt, in its present domestic political picture, is already a corpse, all the more so if we take into account the growing Muslim-Christian rift. Breaking Egypt down territorially into distinct geographical regions is the political aim of Israel in the Nineteen Eighties on its Western front. Egypt is divided and torn apart into many foci of authority. If Egypt falls apart, countries like Libya, Sudan or even the more distant states will not continue to exist in their present form and will join the downfall and dissolution of Egypt. The vision of a Christian Coptic State in upper Egypt alongside a number of weak states with very localized power and without a centralized movement as to date, is the key to a historical development which was only set back by the peace agreement but which seems inevitable in the long run.

Lebanon:
Lebanon's total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel's primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution
of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.

Syria:
Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon so that there will be a Shi'ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbour, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today.

Iraq:
Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi- Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization.

Saudi Arabia:
The entire Arabian peninsula is a natural candidate for dissolution due to internal and external pressures, and the matter is inevitable especially in Saudi Arabia. Regardless of whether its economic might based on oil remains intact or whether it is diminished in the long run,
the internal rifts and breakdowns are a clear and natural development in light of the present political structure.

Jordan:
Jordan constitutes an immediate strategic target in the short run but not in the long run, for it does not constitute a real threat in the long run after its dissolution, the termination of the lengthy rule of King Hussein and the transfer of power to the Palestinians in the short run. There is no chance that Jordan will continue to exist in its present structure for a long time, and Israel´s policy, both in war and in peace, ought to be directed at the liquidation of Jordan under the present regime and the transfer of power to the Palestinian majority. Changing the regime east of the river will also cause the termination of the problem of the territories densely populated with Arabs west of the Jordan. Whether in war or under conditions of peace, emigration from the territories and economic demographic freeze in them, are the guarantees for the coming change on both banks of the river, and we ought to be active in order to accelerate this process in the nearest future. The autonomy plan ought also to be rejected, as well as any compromise or division of the territories for, given the plans of the PLO and those of the Israeli Arabs themselves, the Shefa'amr plan of September 1980, it is not possible to go on living in this country in the present situation without separating the two nations, the Arabs to Jordan and the Jews to the areas west of the river. Genuine co-existence and peace will reign over the land only when the Arabs understand that without Jewish rule between the Jordan and the sea they will have neither existence nor security. A nation of their own and security will be theirs only in Jordan. Within Israel the distinction between the areas of '67 and the territories beyond them, those of ´48, has always been meaningless for Arabs and nowadays no longer has any significance for us. The problem should be seen in its entirety without any divisions as of '67. It should be clear, under any future political situation or military constellation, that the solution of the problem of the indigenous Arabs will come only when they recognize the existence of Israel in secure borders up to the Jordan river and beyond it, as our existential need in this difficult epoch, the nuclear epoch which we shall soon enter. It is no longer possible to live with three-fourths of the Jewish population on the dense shoreline which is so dangerous in a nuclear epoch. Dispersal of the population is therefore a domestic strategic aim of the highest order; otherwise, we shall cease to exist within any borders. Judea, Samaria and the Galilee are our sole guarantee for national existence, and if we do not become the majority in the mountain areas, we shall not rule in the country and we shall be like the Crusaders, who lost this country which was not theirs anyhow, and in which they were foreigners to begin with.

Rebalancing the country demographically, strategically and economically is the highest and most central aim today. Taking hold of the mountain watershed from Beersheba to the Upper Galilee is the national aim generated by the major strategic consideration which is settling the mountainous part of the country that is empty of Jews today."

TR1 wrote:And here I thought the Kenyans controlled the US, phew.

Explain how a man, not born in Merika, having a fake passport, a phoney Social Security Number and having been groomed from “nowhere” rise to become a President of the USA and also get a second term??

The Merikan constitution is completely subverted by the Zionist controlled administration.

Have You Seen The News?

Theres A Leon Panchetta infritrated C.I.A

And Larry Pratt Is.. WTF??

No Seriously What is Syria Doing?

The other guy is M. Night Shyamalan

Roman Polanksi

Kysusha wrote:

TR1 wrote:And here I thought the Kenyans controlled the US, phew.

Explain how a man, not born in Merika, having a fake passport, a phoney Social Security Number and having been groomed from “nowhere” rise to become a President of the USA and also get a second term??

The Merikan constitution is completely subverted by the Zionist controlled administration.

Fake passport.

Ahahahaha.

Not born in AMerica.


Ahahahaha.

Did the moon landings also not happen?

TR1 wrote:
Fake passport.

Ahahahaha.

Not born in AMerica.


Ahahahaha.

Did the moon landings also not happen?

His birth certificate is definetley not real.
They holded the whole thing up for to long and than they show an document that was photoshoped.

The pdf file was seen and had several layers of his birth certificate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7s9StxsFllY

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bkQbntyiXYk/TcpgNV7OEbI/AAAAAAAAHAk/eVvYGdpIgjc/s320/ObamaKenia.jpg


And how immidiatley they found Osama bin Laden who was killed by Navy Seal team without capturing him and asking him out how he did 9/11, and of course they just executed him after 10 years of hunting and through him immidiatley into the ocean.
Sounds like a coupe to give Obomba a great glorious image in his president term and to cover all the media bashing about the probably faked birth certificate and a good PR for his next presidenty term.

And of course not to mention that OBL died 10 years ago and was never the head of 9/11 false flag, like he already said in his video.
"I am not the head of the attacks on the WTC, but I am not sad that this had happened", but of course you want find much videos about it with original sound of his speech.

Werewolf wrote:

His birth certificate is definetley not real.
They holded the whole thing up for to long and than they show an document that was photoshoped.

The pdf file was seen and had several layers of his birth certificate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7s9StxsFllY

So they went through all that and forgot to flatten the document layers which is maybe just a one click away? Maybe there is no birth certificate, may be they misplaced it, maybe they lost it, maybe it got burned, who knows. Anyway what difference a birth certificate make? Its a non-issue. America is a sort of Empire as they meddle in everybody's business, so I am happy that a person who was born in Kenya become American President. Its only fair.

Jokes aside, Electing Romney could have been major disaster for America, just look at his comment about 47%. That guy hates anybody who is not a millionaire. And will let 1000's die each year rather than giving away few dollars extra every year in taxes so that their medicare system can function.

And how immidiatley they found Osama bin Laden who was killed by Navy Seal team without capturing him and asking him out how he did 9/11, and of course they just executed him after 10 years of hunting and through him immidiatley into the ocean.
Sounds like a coupe to give Obomba a great glorious image in his president term and to cover all the media bashing about the probably faked birth certificate and a good PR for his next presidenty term.

Could be true. Anyway like I said their other party when is in power is just not good for the world. As an outsider, I would prefer democrats to be in power in America, always. I totally agree there is something "fishy" about 9/11. But considering they pulled a major stunt like 9/11 but could not make stupid document look real, I find this "fishy" too.

Even Donald Trump acknowledged the birth certificate.

Think about that.
Even that retarder centerpiece of the Birthers, admitted he was wrong.

Never stoop below Donald

Whats so bad about eliminating the influence of the evil, dogmatic, backward oppressive religion of christianity and the tyranic decadent feudalist tsarist aristocracy that starved 90%of the people for centuries?

The evil emperialist interventionalists killed and mutilated a lot more russians than the russian people killed tsarist aristocrats.

Corrosion wrote:
So they went through all that and forgot to flatten the document layers which is maybe just a one click away? Maybe there is no birth certificate, may be they misplaced it, maybe they lost it, maybe it got burned, who knows. Anyway what difference a birth certificate make? Its a non-issue. America is a sort of Empire as they meddle in everybody's business, so I am happy that a person who was born in Kenya become American President. Its only fair.

Jokes aside, Electing Romney could have been major disaster for America, just look at his comment about 47%. That guy hates anybody who is not a millionaire. And will let 1000's die each year rather than giving away few dollars extra every year in taxes so that their medicare system can function.

It would change everything, if it would come out that he is not an american born guy all his laws and decisions would be illegal factor also not to mention all this war crimes he committed like signing for intensive Drone attacks and breaking into other countries and just ignoring their suvereingity.
The whole US government would be in chaos, of course they would play it down that this is all nonsense like they already did,but there is no force who even tried to put it on open stage that everybody can see it, no the Obomba administration drags it down to a conspiracy theory but couldn't even provide any good source.The PDF they've provided on government side was the PDF i posted from the guy who watched it.

Corrosion wrote:Could be true. Anyway like I said their other party when is in power is just not good for the world. As an outsider, I would prefer democrats to be in power in America, always. I totally agree there is something "fishy" about 9/11. But considering they pulled a major stunt like 9/11 but could not make stupid document look real, I find this "fishy" too.

The 9/11 like they tell us is just more than a big joke, they can tell this conspiracy theory to people who lost a part of their brain but not to normal people who have researched more than enough.

This is the official story and how it is handled in our society by the government.

Werewolf wrote:It would change everything, if it would come out that he is not an american born guy all his laws and decisions would be illegal factor also not to mention all this war crimes he committed like signing for intensive Drone attacks and breaking into other countries and just ignoring their suvereingity.
The whole US government would be in chaos, of course they would play it down that this is all nonsense like they already did,but there is no force who even tried to put it on open stage that everybody can see it, no the Obomba administration drags it down to a conspiracy theory but couldn't even provide any good source.The PDF they've provided on government side was the PDF i posted from the guy who watched it.

US President cant make any decision/law himself. Isnt every bill approved by US Congress in America? As far as its impact Internationally is concerned, it wont make any difference. Just look at Iraq War and WMD accusations on which it was started. Iraq war was opposed by so many countries as well, still nothing happened. There is NO international law. International Courts are just airy fairy stuff. Frankly speaking I just cant believe that Obama could not ever have thought about Birth Certificate before. Isnt He a Lawyer? I mean how many times He would have needed that Certificate. Can you get a Passport in USA without a Birth Certificate? I find all this whole Birth Cert issue too dodgy, to be honest. Didn't they stop Arnold Schwarzenegger because He was not born in US? Surely Obama would have thought about that before.

Corrosion wrote:The 9/11 like they tell us is just more than a big joke, they can tell this conspiracy theory to people who lost a part of their brain but not to normal people who have researched more than enough.

9/11 explanations by US Govt. are a big joke.