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Russian winter depends on WHERE in Russia you are as well.
Some parts are not nearly as severe.
Some parts are not nearly as severe.
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Russian Sniper Rifles
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Of course in certain places it doesn't matter what you wear you need to find shelter or you will die, but that is part of training too... and having the wits to realise you are in trouble and need to dig a snow cave will be part of the training too.
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Not at all. Ask anyone from Siberian village. People do their chores from early morning to evening and it's natural to them. With good clothing operating in -30 C is better than in autumn with freezing rains that eventually go through all your layers, and mud is far worse than snow when it comes to marsh brosok. There is more chance of getting sick and be put out of action in autumn than in winter too.Zivo wrote:It would make even Russian winter like a walk in a park.
You must be trolling... I don't believe that for a second.
I didn't have luxury of good winter uniform and had to rely on my mother knitting skills. There is no cold weather- it's bad clothing.
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It's not only about developing, but about introducing it to the army. And the fact is that is situation now is pretty grim. Russian companies like splav used to have good winter clothing if I remember correctly.GarryB wrote:Why do you think the Russians would not be able to develop uniforms and equipment to operate in a Russian winter?
They have one every year, and it is an environment they have a lot of experience operating in....
There are always scandals about soldiers freezing in their barracks and field, getting freezbites, being put in the hospital because of pneumonia or even dieing. It happens every year after SU collapsed. Almost nothing is being done only recently Shoigu fired big 'shishka' because of neglect.
It makes army look incompetent of taking care of their manpower. You can say whatever about Russian media, but even state owned news will be first to show it on news, no wonder army is definetly not the most popular choice.
In 2010 they blamed new uniforms, but it's 2013 and even this year srochniki died in Moscow region.
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European Russia is a mixed bag of mild to strong winters.TR1 wrote:Russian winter depends on WHERE in Russia you are as well.
Some parts are not nearly as severe.
Term Russian winter became more like a myth. Hitler and Napoleon never experienced anything close to what people in Yakutia face every year.
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Hitler and Napoleon never experienced anything close to what people in Yakutia face every year.
Leaders rarely suffer what their pawns go through...
The new super soldier kit should allow for operating in extreme conditions...
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GarryB wrote:Something also to keep in mind... what makes modern vests able to stop heavy rounds like rifle rounds is the hard armour plates... sometimes metal, sometimes ceramic... never cover everything.
Generally they will cover upper chest and rear chest.
A gut shot will not be stopped and nor will a shot from the side.
Let's not forget angled shot. And they are pretty common in urban fighting.
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Russian small arms industry is catching up fast
http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/530
http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/530
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T-5000 is in my opinion the best precision rifle in the world, period. Alpha has already used it to win the Police and Military Sniper World Cup. Twice. In a row.Viktor wrote:Russian small arms industry is catching up fast
Sweet paint job btw. Anybody know what scope that is?
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Looks like the Shahine Thermal Weapon Sight the VDV trialled a while back... from memory it could detect targets out to about 1,500m so it would be a useful addition to a sniper rifle as it can also see through smoke and camouflage...
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Could it be this modified scope?
http://www.cyclone-jsc.ru/index.php/ru/pritsely/13-produktsiya/pritsely/teplovizionnye-pritsely/6-teplovizionnyj-pritsel-shakhin.html
It can detect targets up to 2200 metres.
http://www.cyclone-jsc.ru/index.php/ru/pritsely/13-produktsiya/pritsely/teplovizionnye-pritsely/6-teplovizionnyj-pritsel-shakhin.html
It can detect targets up to 2200 metres.
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I remember reading one of its faults was it didn't calculate bullet drop, so the new models have this too.It can detect targets up to 2200 metres.
ie aim at target and push button to lase target to get range.
small light/dot appears in the sight to show point of impact to that range with that calibre, so you adjust your aim so the dot is centred on the target and fire with good chance of hit.
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TR1 wrote:Can't see anything
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Can't see anything either... did you use the image hosting feature of this website?
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I can see it, PPSh with a scope.
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Is it this photo:
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I wanted to get information on new Russian Sniper Rifles and how they compare to other countries(especially US). With the modernization plan, I think we will see new and improved sniper rifles from Russia. I think the Sniper Rifle is one of the most important weapons a solider can have on the battlefield because it can take out an and while western countries, have improved their Sniper rifles, Russia really has not done anything major their sniper rifles(until now).
Can you please provide information on the VKS sniper rifle and the Orsis t-5000 and other modern Russian Sniper rifles. Please provide pics and videos and information.
Can you please provide information on the VKS sniper rifle and the Orsis t-5000 and other modern Russian Sniper rifles. Please provide pics and videos and information.
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AFAIK they have adopted a new calibre in the .338 Lapua Magnum round and they seem to have a choice of rifles they can adopt which use that round.
There is a variant of the SV-98 that uses the new calibre and is called SV-338.
There is a new version of the SVD too which appears to have a peep rear iron sight and built in bipod, and of course there is the VS-121 which is an improved bullpup version of the SVD (which is one of my favourite new weapons, though I don't know enough about it yet).
The VS-121 is in the standard calibre 7.62 x 54mmR, so it should be effective to a max of around 1,000m. It has a longer barrel and the barrel seems heavier too. The firing mechanism has reportedly been tweaked to improve accuracy and "feel" when using the trigger.
Of all the long range shooting competitions I have read about the Orsis rifles and the variants of the SV-98 seem to be very competitive with western rifles.
A lot of the criticism leveled at Soviet Sniper equipment tends to be based on the fact that it was generally optimised for the 600m to 800m range, unlike western snipers who seem to like to shoot from further away.
the new calibre (338 LM) should allow effective, accurate shooting at 1,500m and beyond, while 12.7mm rifles offer shooting at targets at extended ranges too.
I would love to see them develop a rifle like the South African anti material rifle that came in two calibres... 14.5 x 114mm and 20 x 99mm calibre. The 14.5mm round is high velocity and very potent out to ranges of 2.5km, while the slower heavier 20mm round offers better HE or HEI performance for soft targets.
A Russian version could be adapted to allow the use of the 14.5mm HMG round and the 23 x 115mm cannon rounds as both are currently in service rounds with the Russian Army. The 23mm round being a low recoil, low velocity round designed for light cannon to deliver a heavy HE payload to target at a high rate of fire with light compact ammo with low recoil...
The VKS is basically a step up from the VSS and its 9 x 39mm ammo to a level where targets with body armour can be engaged at extended ranges with a suppressed rifle. The 12.7 x 55mm rounds should be pretty hard hitting and come in subsonic and supersonic types. Even with supersonic ammo the VKS should be relatively quiet and a rather powerful package. It is designed for the FSB and AFAIK is not intended as an army weapon, though I am sure its makers would want to sell them to all branches of the Russian military.
There is a variant of the SV-98 that uses the new calibre and is called SV-338.
There is a new version of the SVD too which appears to have a peep rear iron sight and built in bipod, and of course there is the VS-121 which is an improved bullpup version of the SVD (which is one of my favourite new weapons, though I don't know enough about it yet).
The VS-121 is in the standard calibre 7.62 x 54mmR, so it should be effective to a max of around 1,000m. It has a longer barrel and the barrel seems heavier too. The firing mechanism has reportedly been tweaked to improve accuracy and "feel" when using the trigger.
Of all the long range shooting competitions I have read about the Orsis rifles and the variants of the SV-98 seem to be very competitive with western rifles.
A lot of the criticism leveled at Soviet Sniper equipment tends to be based on the fact that it was generally optimised for the 600m to 800m range, unlike western snipers who seem to like to shoot from further away.
the new calibre (338 LM) should allow effective, accurate shooting at 1,500m and beyond, while 12.7mm rifles offer shooting at targets at extended ranges too.
I would love to see them develop a rifle like the South African anti material rifle that came in two calibres... 14.5 x 114mm and 20 x 99mm calibre. The 14.5mm round is high velocity and very potent out to ranges of 2.5km, while the slower heavier 20mm round offers better HE or HEI performance for soft targets.
A Russian version could be adapted to allow the use of the 14.5mm HMG round and the 23 x 115mm cannon rounds as both are currently in service rounds with the Russian Army. The 23mm round being a low recoil, low velocity round designed for light cannon to deliver a heavy HE payload to target at a high rate of fire with light compact ammo with low recoil...
The VKS is basically a step up from the VSS and its 9 x 39mm ammo to a level where targets with body armour can be engaged at extended ranges with a suppressed rifle. The 12.7 x 55mm rounds should be pretty hard hitting and come in subsonic and supersonic types. Even with supersonic ammo the VKS should be relatively quiet and a rather powerful package. It is designed for the FSB and AFAIK is not intended as an army weapon, though I am sure its makers would want to sell them to all branches of the Russian military.
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GarryB wrote:AFAIK they have adopted a new calibre in the .338 Lapua Magnum round and they seem to have a choice of rifles they can adopt which use that round.
There is a variant of the SV-98 that uses the new calibre and is called SV-338.
There is a new version of the SVD too which appears to have a peep rear iron sight and built in bipod, and of course there is the VS-121 which is an improved bullpup version of the SVD (which is one of my favourite new weapons, though I don't know enough about it yet).
The VS-121 is in the standard calibre 7.62 x 54mmR, so it should be effective to a max of around 1,000m. It has a longer barrel and the barrel seems heavier too. The firing mechanism has reportedly been tweaked to improve accuracy and "feel" when using the trigger.
Of all the long range shooting competitions I have read about the Orsis rifles and the variants of the SV-98 seem to be very competitive with western rifles.
A lot of the criticism leveled at Soviet Sniper equipment tends to be based on the fact that it was generally optimised for the 600m to 800m range, unlike western snipers who seem to like to shoot from further away.
the new calibre (338 LM) should allow effective, accurate shooting at 1,500m and beyond, while 12.7mm rifles offer shooting at targets at extended ranges too.
I would love to see them develop a rifle like the South African anti material rifle that came in two calibres... 14.5 x 114mm and 20 x 99mm calibre. The 14.5mm round is high velocity and very potent out to ranges of 2.5km, while the slower heavier 20mm round offers better HE or HEI performance for soft targets.
A Russian version could be adapted to allow the use of the 14.5mm HMG round and the 23 x 115mm cannon rounds as both are currently in service rounds with the Russian Army. The 23mm round being a low recoil, low velocity round designed for light cannon to deliver a heavy HE payload to target at a high rate of fire with light compact ammo with low recoil...
The VKS is basically a step up from the VSS and its 9 x 39mm ammo to a level where targets with body armour can be engaged at extended ranges with a suppressed rifle. The 12.7 x 55mm rounds should be pretty hard hitting and come in subsonic and supersonic types. Even with supersonic ammo the VKS should be relatively quiet and a rather powerful package. It is designed for the FSB and AFAIK is not intended as an army weapon, though I am sure its makers would want to sell them to all branches of the Russian military.
Thanks for all the good information GarryB.
I have seen pictures of the Orsis T 5000, it has a silencer(in picture 1), does the Orsis T 5000 come with a silencer?
Picture 1
https://i.imgur.com/s4M5So4.jpg
The SVD-338- is that an .388 Laupa magnum rifle?
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Yes, as the name suggests...par far wrote:The SVD-338- is that an .388 Laupa magnum rifle?
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SV literally means Sniper Rifle, so SV-98 and SV-99 and SVD pretty much mean Sniper Rifle model 1998, Sniper Rifle model 1999, and Sniper Rifle Dragunov.
SVD-338 would be Sniper Rifle Dragunov in 338 calibre.
Most sniper rifles come with suppressors as an option as it reduces firing signature (visual and audio) and makes the rifle less exciting to fire (exciting in a negative sense).
With long range rifles the suppressor reduces noise as the bullet is generally supersonic and will make a noise on firing.
SVD-338 would be Sniper Rifle Dragunov in 338 calibre.
Most sniper rifles come with suppressors as an option as it reduces firing signature (visual and audio) and makes the rifle less exciting to fire (exciting in a negative sense).
With long range rifles the suppressor reduces noise as the bullet is generally supersonic and will make a noise on firing.
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GarryB wrote:SV literally means Sniper Rifle, so SV-98 and SV-99 and SVD pretty much mean Sniper Rifle model 1998, Sniper Rifle model 1999, and Sniper Rifle Dragunov.
SVD-338 would be Sniper Rifle Dragunov in 338 calibre.
Most sniper rifles come with suppressors as an option as it reduces firing signature (visual and audio) and makes the rifle less exciting to fire (exciting in a negative sense).
With long range rifles the suppressor reduces noise as the bullet is generally supersonic and will make a noise on firing.
Thanks again for the great information GarryB. The American do a very good job of marketing their Sniper Rifles and sometime over hyping them. I searched Russian Sniper rifles and I cannot find any websites that go into specifics about the sniper rifles. I will post a website on American Sniper rifle company and you can see close up pictures and specifics(mostly for marketing purposes). why don't the Russians do this Something like this?
http://www.mcmillanfirearms.com/mcmillan-rifles/
https://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1
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par far wrote:GarryB wrote:SV literally means Sniper Rifle, so SV-98 and SV-99 and SVD pretty much mean Sniper Rifle model 1998, Sniper Rifle model 1999, and Sniper Rifle Dragunov.
SVD-338 would be Sniper Rifle Dragunov in 338 calibre.
Most sniper rifles come with suppressors as an option as it reduces firing signature (visual and audio) and makes the rifle less exciting to fire (exciting in a negative sense).
With long range rifles the suppressor reduces noise as the bullet is generally supersonic and will make a noise on firing.
Thanks again for the great information GarryB. The American do a very good job of marketing their Sniper Rifles and sometime over hyping them. I searched Russian Sniper rifles and I cannot find any websites that go into specifics about the sniper rifles. I will post a website on American Sniper rifle company and you can see close up pictures and specifics(mostly for marketing purposes). why don't the Russians do this Something like this?
http://www.mcmillanfirearms.com/mcmillan-rifles/
https://www.barrett.net/firearms/model82a1
Try this one little "wiki" for some rifles including sniper rifles from different countries.
http://world.guns.ru/