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The USAF KC-46 tanker program

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JohninMK Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:52 pm

Maybe a solution in sight, if you have binoculars Smile

Should have bought the proven Airbus 330

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This pushes Boeing pretty close to a $5 billion cost overrun on the fixed-price $4.9 billion contract in 2011. The original contract price was $4.4 billion, but the terms required the Air Force to cover the first $500 million of any extra costs. Boeing has covered the rest.

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Plan includes new 4k cameras, new HD screens for the boom operator, laser range finder, augmented reality. Boeing at the time wouldn't give cost estimate, USAF said zero additional cost to taxpayer. Fielding in 2023

https://www.airforcemag.com/usaf-boeing-reach-plan-to-replace-kc-46s-problematic-remote-vision-system/

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kvs Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:04 pm

JohninMK wrote:Maybe a solution in sight, if you have binoculars Should have bought the proven Airbus 330

Steve Trimble
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This pushes Boeing pretty close to a $5 billion cost overrun on the fixed-price $4.9 billion contract in 2011. The original contract price was $4.4 billion, but the terms required the Air Force to cover the first $500 million of any extra costs. Boeing has covered the rest.

Brian Everstine
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Plan includes new 4k cameras, new HD screens for the boom operator, laser range finder, augmented reality. Boeing at the time wouldn't give cost estimate, USAF said zero additional cost to taxpayer. Fielding in 2023

https://www.airforcemag.com/usaf-boeing-reach-plan-to-replace-kc-46s-problematic-remote-vision-system/

All those upgrades are pennies compared to millions of dollars. Project delays and cost overruns such as these are sure sign of corruption.

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JohninMK Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:05 pm

Deary, deary me, still no signed off plan, just a hope for the end of March. To the uninitiated it reads like that is when the solution rolls out or even the summer. Ha ha.

WASHINGTON — After more than a year of deliberations, the U.S. Air Force is hoping to have a fix in hand for the KC-46 tanker’s most critical technical problem by the end of March, the service’s top general told Defense News in an exclusive interview.

The hope is for the Air Force and Boeing to sign off next month on a finalized design for the KC-46’s Remote Vision System, or RVS — a series of cameras and sensors that allow its users to steer the aircraft’s boom into a plane for aerial refueling.

“The fact [is] that we’re in negotiations right now; I can’t say anything that would affect those negotiations,” Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Dave Goldfein said in a Feb. 18 interview.

“Here’s what I will tell you: They’re not stagnant in any way, shape or form. It’s a very active dialogue. We’re working on getting a serious fix,” he said. “We’re looking for a serious fix on the table by the end of March, and we’re going to be flying that fix and starting to test it by the end of this summer.”

For several years, the KC-46 program has grappled with a critical deficiency involving the RVS, which is manufactured by Rockwell Collins. Under certain lighting conditions, the imagery is difficult to see and sometimes distorted, making it difficult for operators to safely move the boom without scraping the aircraft receiving fuel.

Despite ongoing RVS problems, the service and Boeing came to a compromise in late 2018 that would allow the aerospace firm to begin delivering the KC-46 if the company would swallow the cost of fixing the system to the Air Force’s specifications.

At the time, Boeing and the service agreed on nine performance areas where the Air Force wanted to see improvements, but the parties have been embroiled in debate for months over how to turn those into technical requirements that would allow Boeing engineers to make specific hardware and software changes to the RVS design.

The first tanker was delivered in January 2019, but months later in September, Air Mobility Command head Gen. Maryanne Miller said Boeing had made no progress on the RVS and that it would take three to four years before the KC-46 was technically mature enough to deploy.

More at link.

https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/air-warfare-symposium/2020/02/20/top-us-air-force-general-hopes-for-major-kc-46-fix-by-march/

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Hole Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:55 pm

They should buy the system Russia developed for the Il-78M-90A.

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PapaDragon Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:46 pm

What was wrong with old system?

USAF had no problems refueling planes for half a century with it

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Isos Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:07 pm

PapaDragon wrote:
What was wrong with old system?

USAF had no problems refueling planes for half a century with it

It became cheap and usefull lol1

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magnumcromagnon Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:13 pm

PapaDragon wrote:
What was wrong with old system?

USAF had no problems refueling planes for half a century with it

Old reliable is no longer profitable.

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Hole Sun Feb 21, 2021 11:11 am

The old system was a guy lying in the back end of the plane and watching the receiver plane trough a window. Now they want a remote station with a guy watching TV screens delivering pictures from cameras. The hi-tech industry in Bidens land of the depressed seems to be in bad shape if it can´t deliver that.

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GarryB Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:57 am

What was wrong with old system?

USAF had no problems refueling planes for half a century with it

They have this terrible habit of sabotaging the old system to justify a new more expensive one but that is necessary because if they don't then they might realise the old system worked just fine and we can just keep using that.

With the old system gone there is not so much pressure for the new system to be good or to even work properly.

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Hole Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:53 am

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Old system, KC-135

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