S-350 "Vityaz" SAM System

TheArmenian wrote:The Russians have told and shown us only what they wanted us to know and see of the Vityaz system.
Their military industry is becoming more and more domestic oriented and decreasing its dependency on exports. I have noticed that over the last few years, they are more secretive on many programs. Take CLUB for example...we have seen only export versions.
I suspect there a lot more to Vityaz and also the S-400 than we have seen.

GarryB wrote:

except km-sam is already operational and in mass production...
while viutaz is not even in testing...it lags allot.
there is a reason new assembly buildings for A-A are under construction.

No big surprise that KM-SAM is in production and operational... the UAE got Pantsir-S1 first too... for the same reason... they paid for it.

Rpg type 7v wrote:

GarryB wrote:

except km-sam is already operational and in mass production...
while viutaz is not even in testing...it lags allot.
there is a reason new assembly buildings for A-A are under construction.

No big surprise that KM-SAM is in production and operational... the UAE got Pantsir-S1 first too... for the same reason... they paid for it.

they were introduced at about the same time. Vytaz is not even tested -yet.It was announced in late 90s .... This is too slow and too much money is  wasted is slow programs.

TheArmenian wrote:The Russians have told and shown us only what they wanted us to know and see of the Vityaz system.
Their military industry is becoming more and more domestic oriented and decreasing its dependency on exports. I have noticed that over the last few years, they are more secretive on many programs. Take CLUB for example...we have seen only export versions.
I suspect there a lot more to Vityaz and also the S-400 than we have seen.

Rpg type 7v wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:The Russians have told and shown us only what they wanted us to know and see of the Vityaz system.
Their military industry is becoming more and more domestic oriented and decreasing its dependency on exports. I have noticed that over the last few years, they are more secretive on many programs. Take CLUB for example...we have seen only export versions.
I suspect there a lot more to Vityaz and also the S-400 than we have seen.

good point... vytaz is still not in full production for few more years , maybe that hall will be full of machines and workers latter ,for now its empty.

TR1 wrote:

Rpg type 7v wrote:

TheArmenian wrote:The Russians have told and shown us only what they wanted us to know and see of the Vityaz system.
Their military industry is becoming more and more domestic oriented and decreasing its dependency on exports. I have noticed that over the last few years, they are more secretive on many programs. Take CLUB for example...we have seen only export versions.
I suspect there a lot more to Vityaz and also the S-400 than we have seen.

good point... vytaz is still not in full production for few more years , maybe that hall will be full of machines and workers latter ,for now its empty.

Or maybe that hall is not for final assembly?

Are you really this thick?

Designation of Vityaz system: S-350E

gaurav wrote:

Designation of Vityaz system: S-350E

I converted your pdf to English by google translation..

There is no word on the missiles used in S-350E.
So nothing can be said about the missiles/weapons as such.

There is no official interview/comment from the manufacturer about the missiles.

The structure AAMS include:

- command and control point (FDR) 50K6E

- multifunction radar (MFR) 50N6E (up to 2 units)   

- launchers (PU) 50P6E (up to 8 units) with twelve anti-aircraft guided missiles, medium-range 9M96E2 (developer - of "ICD" Torch "to them. PD Grushin").


The main highlight of the AAMS is a multi-function radar detection of air targets of a new type has no analogues in Russia. This station is the main communication tool of S-350E, running in a circular and sectoral modes and provides support for up to 100 targets. Management of MPR and PU are remotely controlled from the point of command and control, which can be removed from them at a distance of 2 km. All components of the unified air defense missile systems placed on the chassis BAZ-69092-012, manufactured by JSC "Bryansk Wheeled Tractor Plant." The launcher is designed for the transportation, storage, automatic prelaunch and launch anti-aircraft missiles. Missile launches are possible at intervals of 2 seconds System C-350E is capable of hitting up to 16 wind or up to 12 ballistic targets, the maximum number of simultaneously induced SAM - 32. This provides aerodynamic loss targets at ranges from 1.5 to 60 km and altitude - from 0.01 to 30 km, and ballistic - from 1.5 to 30 km, and from 2 to 25 km, respectively. Time to bring funds AAMS on alert after a march of only five minutes, a crew - 3 people. The system has high mobility and survivability, can operate autonomously, conducting independent military operations, as well as in the air-defense groups in the management of higher command posts. Combat operation of S-350E is fully automatic, and provides only a crew trained to work AAMS and controls the subsequent course of the fighting.


LINK

flamming_python wrote:
What is the S-350 supposed to replace exactly? Anyone have an answer?
Because by these specifications it looks like a sort of medium-range SAM system similar to the Buk-M2/M3 or S-125 Pechora; rather than a follow on for the S-300 system.

flamming_python wrote:What is the S-350 supposed to replace exactly? Anyone have an answer?

Sujoy wrote:

flamming_python wrote:What is the S-350 supposed to replace exactly? Anyone have an answer?

Apart from the S 300PS , S 350  could replace older SAMs like the S-125 adding multiple-target and anti-missile capabilities at the same time . Also , there should be 2 configurations of the S 350 :

1.A  configuration optimized for protecting against high-precision weapons & UAVs ( Simultaneous engagement of 8 targets). 4 launchers with 32 small missiles.

2. A multi role version . 2 radars and 8 launchers .

9M96 missile - 40km range with passive IR homing
9M100 - IR guided approx 10km range .

TR1 wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/602540.html

Nice pics of Vityaz!

TR1 wrote:Stealing my thunder SOC.


Range is very curious. Why would they curtail range so much even for an export product? We know 9m96 can reach out farther.