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    Post  Austin Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:27 am

    Great Decision , They found launch customer for 100 aircraft , Hope they go for PD-7 engine and not American one

    SINGAPORE: Sukhoi considering PW1000G power for Superjet shrink

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/singapore-sukhoi-considering-pw1000g-power-for-sup-445615/
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:59 am

    Austin wrote:Great Decision , They found launch customer for 100 aircraft , Hope they go for PD-7 engine and not American one

    SINGAPORE: Sukhoi considering PW1000G power for Superjet shrink

    https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/singapore-sukhoi-considering-pw1000g-power-for-sup-445615/

    Sukhoi Civil Aircraft (SCAC) has launched a major "shrink" derivative of the Superjet – and the variant could be powered by Pratt & Whitney's PW1000G geared turbofan when it enters service in 2022.

    SCAC president Alexander Rubtsov revealed to FlightGlobal at the Singapore air show that a launch decision for the 75-seat derivative was made "last week" following a 100-aircraft commitment from an undisclosed Russian airline....

    100 planes commitment from single Russian carrier alone? That's pretty impressive. Which one could it be?
    I don't think Aeroflot does small stuff so it's most likely someone else but who knows?

    Engines are secondary issue, there is plenty of time since they are optional anyway. What matters is that planes are manufactured and sold. They can always replace engines later.


    I know Sukhoi promo team is currently touring Pakistan and Singapore with SSJ-100 so there also could be something there.

    https://rg.ru/2017/11/14/superdzhet-100-stanet-menshe.html


    Also, when they mentioned ''Superjet shrink'' in headline I thought they were sending that plane to see a psychiatrist. lol1
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    Post  franco Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:30 pm

    Quotation Korotchenko with figures: The volume of financing for the development of the ground infrastructure of civil airports in 2000-2016 . amounted to about 497 billion rubles . 103 airports were modernized, 64 runways were reconstructed. To develop the ground airport infrastructure of remote and northern territories on the basis of 66 local airports and 15 landing sites , 7 federal state enterprises were created . According to figures, it should be about the number of about 800 local airports and landing sites. However, it is obvious that so many will not be invested and the issue will again be stretched to infinity.

    By comparison for 2010, there were 15095 airports in the United States and accounted for 70% of the world's domestic air transportation.
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    Post  kvs Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:37 pm

    franco wrote:Quotation Korotchenko with figures: The volume of financing for the development of the ground infrastructure of civil airports in 2000-2016 . amounted to about 497 billion rubles . 103 airports were modernized, 64 runways were reconstructed. To develop the ground airport infrastructure of remote and northern territories on the basis of 66 local airports and 15 landing sites , 7 federal state enterprises were created . According to figures, it should be about the number of about 800 local airports and landing sites. However, it is obvious that so many will not be invested and the issue will again be stretched to infinity.

    By comparison for 2010, there were 15095 airports in the United States and accounted for 70% of the world's domestic air transportation.

    The usual context-free propaganda BS. The vast majority of those US airports are rinky dink Cessna venues and not actual major airports that can service all sorts of aircraft. The same goes for 70% of all domestic transportation. This is mostly Cessna level private flight. No shit Russia does not have this culture. It was under 70+ years of communism and then a massive economic collapse from which it is still
    recovering.
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    Post  franco Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:43 pm

    Just to be clear, that was a translation of a Russian article talking about another Russian article. Posted it for the non BS and propaganda ie numbers.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:31 pm

    Ilyushin" is considering the possibility of installing PD-35 on an IL-96-400M

    https://www.aex.ru/news/2018/1/31/180650/

    January 31, 2018, AEX.RU - PJSC "IL" continues development work to create a domestic wide-body long-haul liner Il-96-400M. One of the variants of the proposed powerplant envisages the use of two perspective domestic engines PD-35. This is reported by OJSC "IL".

    "It is expected that they will reduce the fuel consumption of the aircraft by 12-15 percent, and this will also reduce the cost of maintenance and repair of the power plant. The modification of the Il-96-400M with PD-35 will give the potential customer the option of choosing the airliner model with an optimal for him the layout, "- noted in the company.

    IL-96-400M is created on the basis of a serial certified Il-96-300 aircraft in order to further improve this type of vehicles and expand their transport capabilities by extending the fuselage and installing more powerful engines. Depending

    Well well, si Il-96-400 can be produced even before CR-929 goes in numbers? All Russian can be base for air tankers or sold to Iran or other "dictatorship" markets.
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    Post  kvs Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:59 pm

    franco wrote:Just to be clear, that was a translation of a Russian article talking about another Russian article. Posted it for the non BS and propaganda ie numbers.

    In spite of all the rabid claims in NATO how Russia's media is "state run", a huge part of it is pro-NATO and full of BS talking
    points. The purpose of repeating this meaningless statistic is to spread anti-Russian propaganda about how vastly
    undeveloped Russia is and how far in the Heavens is the precious west. An example of such NATO bootlick media in
    Russia is Kommersant. This "respected" rag formerly owned by Berezovsky (the gangster oligarch) was busy trying to
    bolster the claims of Syrian jihadis that they destroyed 7 Russian jets on the ground by trotting out totally irrelevant
    photos of some aircraft damage (clearly not from mortar blasts). Job number one is to support Russia's enemies.
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    Post  Austin Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:48 am

    Looks like Sukhoi has cancelled the SSJ-NG in favour of SSJ-75 , they mention its a business decision so as not to compete with Bombardier in the 130 seater market.

    I am hoping Sukhoi will push for more RUssian component for SSJ-75 including PD-7 engine.

    Smaller version of SSJ-100 airliner may come to market in 2022


    http://tass.com/economy/988945
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:14 am

    Austin wrote:Looks like Sukhoi has cancelled the SSJ-NG in favour of SSJ-75 , they mention its a business decision so as not to compete with Bombardier in the 130 seater market.

    ......


    Not just Bombardier, it would also overlap with 200 seat version of MS-21.

    SSJ for 100 seats or below, MS-21 for above 100 seats. Makes sense.
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:31 pm

    When will the PD-18 come out? Is it a midline between the PD-14 and massive PD-35, capable of powering large 2 engine widebodies?


    When will russia make a a turbofan with a higher thrust and bypass ratio than its PW equivalent along with having composite fan blades? That could be a far better marketing point and a lot more buyers will flock to the Russian engines because they've "proven" themselves to make a PW/GE competitor thats better in every possible way.
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Feb 09, 2018 6:39 pm

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:When will the PD-18 come out? Is it a midline between the PD-14 and massive PD-35, capable of powering large 2 engine widebodies?


    When will russia make a a turbofan with a higher thrust and bypass ratio than its PW equivalent along with having composite fan blades? That could be a far better marketing point and a lot more buyers will flock to the Russian engines because they've "proven" themselves to make a PW/GE competitor thats better in every possible way.

    I see your the type that ignores knowledge and goes marking full blast.

    These are already heavily competitive to P&W. PD-14 exists for a reason. Hell, even PS-90 newest variant is competitive.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:41 am

    Sad if correct.


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    #BREAKING Russian plane with 71 people crashed in #Moscow region: reports
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    Post  auslander Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:47 pm

    It went down, no survivors. Pilot reported a 'technical' problem and was to attempt a return to Aerodrome, then the plane disappeared from radar. 71 casualties.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:56 am



    Russia plane crash raises new questions about safety of Antonov jet

    http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-russia-crash-investigation-20180212-story.html


    ...One An-148 crashed during a training flight in Russia in March 2011, killing all six crew members on board. Investigators blamed pilot error....

    Pilot error my ass, they probably dropped it on the pilot in order to keep ''joint'' useless political project running.

    ...In 2010, another An-148 operated by a Russian carrier suffered a major failure of its control system, but its crew managed to land safely.

    In September, one engine of a Saratov Airlines An-148 shut down minutes after takeoff, but it landed safely. And in October, another An-148 that belonged to a different Russian carrier suffered an engine fire on takeoff but also managed to land. Engine shutdowns have occurred on several other occasions....

    This thing is a flying coffin and disaster waiting to happen.

    On top of everything it's existence probably hindered introduction of SSJ-100 in the earlier phases which would have saved lives.









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    First  L-410 delivered to civilian operator

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/103847/

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    Post  George1 Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:45 am

    The second flight of the first prototype of the Ka-62 helicopter?

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    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3097287.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:20 am


    Looks like company that plans to order 100 SSJ-75s is S7 Airlines

    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/3553922?from=hotnews

    This is same company that bought SeaLaunch
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:24 am

    George1 wrote:The second flight of the first prototype of the Ka-62 helicopter?
    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3097287.html

    Just about time, Rostech is badly missing small and medium helos for civilian markets. But I am afraid with French engine.


    PapaDragon wrote:
    Looks like company that plans to order 100 SSJ-75s is S7 Airlines
    This is same company that bought SeaLaunch

    You see working with ukrops makes you rich Smile
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:53 pm


    Remember that fully composite An-2 derivative called TVS2-DTS?

    Well, it just got it's first order, Mongolian Hannu Air ordered​ 6 of them.

    http://tass.ru/sibir-news/4990449

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    Post  miketheterrible Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:16 pm

    Now thats interesting.

    Can someone kind of explain to me the benefits of said plane? What roll it will fulfill?
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    Post  Guest Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:35 am

    miketheterrible wrote:Now thats interesting.

    Can someone kind of explain to me the benefits of said plane?  What roll it will fulfill?

    Its faster than original An-2, can fly up to max of 320km/h. Has longer range, can use additional fuel tanks, can take about 2,5 of cargo. Its lighter, made almost completely out of composites so its faster to be made too. And cost is quite low, they say in case of serial production might drop even under 1 million USD. Roles..well... anything. Its quite good for unprepared strips too, mostly for cargo transport for outposts, post transport... medevac, paratroopers entry training... roles are kinda endless.

    Sad part is its using Honeywell TPE331-12UAN engine and Hartzell Propellers... Austrian gearbox...etc, etc. For now at least.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:53 am

    Militarov wrote:[.....

    Sad part is its using Honeywell TPE331-12UAN engine and Hartzell Propellers... Austrian gearbox...etc, etc. For now at least.

    True but new engines were never project end goal, priority was creating composite aircraft based off existing design which they nailed 100%

    Fun part is what comes next: they are well into doing same with Yak-40, composite body and two engines instead of three like in original version

    That one will be something, I posted differences​ between types several pages back and if they hit anywhere near those numbers, oh boy...
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:38 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Militarov wrote:[.....

    Sad part is its using Honeywell TPE331-12UAN engine and Hartzell Propellers... Austrian gearbox...etc, etc. For now at least.

    True but new engines were never project end goal, priority was creating composite aircraft based off existing design which they nailed 100%

    Fun part is what comes next: they are well into doing same with Yak-40, composite body and two engines instead of three like in original version

    That one will be something, I posted differences​ between types several pages back and if they hit anywhere near those numbers, oh boy...

    Went back a few pages, cant find it.

    That would be awesome, fully composite Yak-40.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:42 am

    miketheterrible wrote:.......

    Went back a few pages, cant find it.

    That would be awesome, fully composite Yak-40.

    Here, page 19 actually, took me a while to find it, it's been longer than I remember:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t6295p450-russian-civil-aviation-news-2#191645

    Under photo of SSJ
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    Post  miketheterrible Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:19 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:.......

    Went back a few pages, cant find it.

    That would be awesome, fully composite Yak-40.

    Here, page 19 actually, took me a while to find it, it's been longer than I remember:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t6295p450-russian-civil-aviation-news-2#191645

    Under photo of SSJ

    Thanks. That's really something. If they can use something other than Honeywell, like a smaller PD engine or the engine used for SSJ, it could be perfect for small airliners for really near use. Full composite. Now that is something
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    Post  GarryB Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:59 pm


    Sad part is its using Honeywell TPE331-12UAN engine and Hartzell Propellers... Austrian gearbox...etc, etc. For now at least.

    The reality is that the original engine of the An-2 is a licence produced Wright engine anyway... if they want to replace all existing An-2s with this bird then it is well worth developing a custom designed engine for it, and perhaps a gearbox and props for its specific role/purpose...

    From what I have read the reduction in weight and increase in power means its stall speed has gone from 48km/h to very very low... so in a 50km/h headwind it could fly backwards under full flight control...

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