34 mountain brigade.
No bullshit imported equipment, just Chechen war experience under their belts.
Regular wrote:
34 mountain brigade.
No bullshit imported equipment, just Chechen war experience under their belts.
I wonder why they're using western equipment when they're very capable of making equipment that is equal to or superior to western equipment? I'm going to guess the Russian companies maybe weren't as capable as supplying the equipment they needed so they turned to buying western designs? The EO Tech is regarded as a very good sight. It is more difficult to shoot accurately with though on an AK-74 as it's mounted very high. The EO Tech was intended more for rifles with a high plane of sight like the M4. I suppose a cheek riser on the AK-74 largely solves this problem though.Regular wrote:Too much western equipment for my taste, let's put this in that way. They should be banned by MOD to buy them at all. Especially when Russian companies make superior products. EOTech is completely shit sight especially mounted on AK-74, instead they should stick to Russian collimators and support local manufacturers, not to mention sad state that Russian optic industry went through. Can anyone explain me what's wrong with numerous indigenous helmets Russia already has, digital camo? Why should they make logistical nightmare instead of utilising what is already there. Really is there any logic in using those fancy sights in mountains? It won't make Your AK-74 a sniper rifle and snow and freezing temperatures will kill batteries in no time.
34 mountain brigade.
No bullshit imported equipment, just Chechen war experience under their belts.
I'm going to guess the Russian companies maybe weren't as capable as supplying the equipment they needed so they turned to buying western designs?
George1 wrote:Does anyone have info on specific mountain warfare units of Russian army and VDV?
Reconnaissance Large units and military Units
The Reconnaissance Formations and military Units are often put into the Special Forces of the Land Force and designed to perform a wide range of tasks in order to provide commanders, staffs and headquarters with information about the enemy, terrain and weather condition for making the most rational decisions on operation (battle) and preventing surprises of the enemy’s actions.
In the interests of the Land Force reconnaissance is carried out by organic reconnaissance subunits of combined-arms formations (motorised rifle and tank brigades), formations and units of special purpose, radio and electronic reconnaissance of army and military district sets, as well as reconnaissance units and subdivisions of the Arms and Special Forces of the Land Force.
In preparation and during conducting of combined-arms operations (combat actions) they perform the following tasks:
• disclosure of the enemy’s intention, its immediate preparations for aggression, and its surprise attack prevention;
• identifying the troops (forces) of the enemy and its control system’s combat structure, position, grouping, status and capabilities;
• disclosure of the objects (targets) for defeating and determination of their location (coordinates);
• disclosure of the elements of the war theatre’s operational equipment, the terrains’ engineering equipment and the system of barriers;
• determination of the degree of terrain’s passability, the state of communications, the nature of water barriers, the boundaries and the dimensions of areas of destruction, fires and floods, contamination areas, possible ways of overcoming them and turning movement around them;
• identifying the enemy’s new weapons and methods of warfare, as well as its activities to ensure full operation (battle);
• determination of the morale of the enemy’s troops and the local population, the economic status of the operation’s area, etc.
Reconnaissance Formations and Units extract the necessary information about the enemy by the following main ways:
• surveillance (tracking) and eavesdropping;
• photographing (ground or air);
• interception, technical analysis of radiation of electronic means and determination of objects’ coordinates;
• conducting searches, raids, ambushes, reconnaissance in force;
• survey of local residents, interrogation of prisoners and defectors;
• studying the enemy’s documents, equipment and weapons captured.
Further improvement of capabilities of the Reconnaissance Formations and Units is made by improving their organizational structure, equipping them with highly technical means of reconnaissance, including based on new physical principles, tactical systems of reconnaissance based on unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as with automation of data collection, processing of reconnaissance data and informing commanders and staffs about them in real time.
marcellogo wrote:I have been on this forum by years seen a lot of different threads about the wide array of different specialities and troops of the Russian Armed forces and their armaments.
Still I have seen nothing about reconnaissance units.
So, may I ask if it exist in Russia anything that can be considered as a proper Cavarly corp, with its own traditions, school and insignas and not instead just some specially tasked units in the framework of other types of troops?
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franco wrote:marcellogo wrote:I have been on this forum by years seen a lot of different threads about the wide array of different specialities and troops of the Russian Armed forces and their armaments.
Still I have seen nothing about reconnaissance units.
So, may I ask if it exist in Russia anything that can be considered as a proper Cavarly corp, with its own traditions, school and insignas and not instead just some specially tasked units in the framework of other types of troops?
They are called Intelligence troops and belong to GRU or Main Intelligence Directorate. Some of them are designated special purpose or most commonly known as Spetsnaz but all brigades and divisions also have battalions. In addition, there are 3 separate Recon brigades plus the Radio Technical Special Purpose brigades, battalions etc which in the West would be called Elint or Sigint units.
Not clear also: such horses are pack animals i.e. the equivalent of a logistic vehicle (our army used mules for the same role), a mean of individual transportation i.e. a BTR or they can use them during combat i.e. aALAMO wrote:Some horsemen units exist in mountain troops as well.
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franco wrote:Thank for the reply but I dare to say that it make things more complicated to me to understand than before.
It's just that the way of thinking and cathegorize things is somewhat alien to me.
For what I know the GRU is not even part of the Army but depend directly from the Main Command.
So, must I assume that even the regular, organic reconnaissance unit of a standard level formation like a brigate or a division it's made of personnel that didn't belong to the Army itself?
1. everything is considered Army that is not Navy
2. what the West calls the Army in Russia would be the Ground Forces
3. Intelligence units belong to GRU but are seconded (attached) to the Ground Forces units
4. the same applies to Logistic and Maintenance units. They belong to the Rear Services but are attached to the Ground Forces units (and other branches or services)
5. Clear as mud, right!
6. The same applies to the Navy, Ground and Air Forces can be attached to Fleet control along with the attached Rear Services.
Not clear also: such horses are pack animals i.e. the equivalent of a logistic vehicle (our army used mules for the same role), a mean of individual transportation i.e. a BTR or they can use them during combat i.e. a BMP pardon BMK?
Pack animals with standard load being 250 kg spread over 4 horses.
franco wrote:- Air Force no longer has a Frontal Aviation as such. The Army Aviation units are the helicopter units. They are assigned to Ground Forces support as needed. The Air Force prime attachment with Ground Forces is in the Military Districts.
- Airborne units are two types, Air Assault and Parachute. The two Parachute divisions (98th and 106th) remain the Strategic reserve of the General Staff while the Air Assault units are attached to support the Military District they are in.
- There is a Naval Aviation that belongs to the Navy and there are also Aerospace Forces attached to Naval Command. Same as the Navy also has the Naval Infantry and Coastal troops plus Ground Forces are attached to Naval Commands (for the most part these Ground Forces are called Army Corps)
- The Russian military is a large force with many moving parts
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