U.E.C.- Russian aircraft engines

Arrow wrote:Russia may have overtaken the West when it comes to building engines for tactical aviation. Currently, the West does not have an engine at the level of the AL 51F1? The F 119 is an older design with lower performance? Maybe the F 135?

The AL51F1 is still not in serial production I think. I still have not seen any serial aircraft with it.
In theory the US has more advanced engine technology than the F135 at the test stand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_XA100

It will definitely take another decade. Look how long they have been working on the AL-51 and there is no end in sight.

You have no idea, so why do you make such claims?

Your claim that the US is ahead because it has x number of F-35s... well then they are ahead when the F-35 works as advertised... including the fact that it will get much cheaper when everyone buys them... everyone bought them and it is only getting more expensive. The amazing computer software based supply system was going to make it the cheapest plane to operate and that was cancelled. Almost like it was a lie to get countries to buy with the promises that in the future it would get fixed.

The people whispering these things are likely the same people whispering to Zelenksy and Poroshenko that you don't have to negotiate... we will give you the weapons and money and you can win on the battlefield... how is that working out?

These same people are whispering to the people of Georgia that they can start a second front against Russia and in the three or four days they estimate it will take Russia to demolish their standing army they should able to last for months or years in a guerilla war against Russia taking horrible casualties but it will get you into the EU and HATO.... when you defeat the Russians...

It seems marketing and sales has replaced reality in the US, which is why they seem to be losing at everything... even the propaganda war... the western propaganda machines are awash with a stalemate or ceasefire... ignoring that Putin has already said a ceasefire while the west rearms Kiev is not an option.

Look how long they have been working on the AL-51 and there is no end in sight. It is not known when we will see it on the serial Su-57.

The Al-51 was always considered a midlife upgrade engine and was never intended to be fitted to the first serial produced aircraft... or even part of the first serial batch (ie first 76 aircraft) AFAIK. It was supposed to be a midlife upgrade to boost electrical power on the aircraft and increase thrust to counter any increases in weights for heavier weapons or more onboard equipment.

the same people like Arrow said Su-57 would never come out. Then it did and they said it would only be a few. Then it appeared more was being built and fielded. So now they need a new claim.

And the new claim is that it will be shit until it gets the new engines, or that China is making a better plane.

Well it is the US and the EU that have declared Russia as their enemy they want to strategically defeat, while China is a neighbour and a friend and trading partner... Russia should be happy for China for its economic success and help them any way they can without sabotaging themselves of course.

If you want to be the best at everything you should prepare yourself to be disappointed.

Trying to be the best at everything is a good goal but cheating and attacking others and sabotage to make it a reality and you will isolate yourself and no one will trade or work with you.

The Su-57 is the best 5th generation aircraft out there. As simple as that.

The F-35 has pathetic top speed and anemic internal volume for weapons. Which means if it is to be used for long distance combat they must use it the so called "Beast Mode" where it will light up radar screens like a Christmas tree with external stored weapons.

The F-22 has obsolete electronics and the same anemic internal volume for weapons.

The US claimed advantage on stealth is kind of dubious. At least sideways both those US aircraft present a way larger area than the Su-57. At best the US aircraft could have improved stealth from the front and back. But the penalty they pay for this frontal stealth is lower usable internal volume and lower kinematic performance. The Su-57 front and back stealth will also be improved with the AL-51.

China has enormous talent and enormous potential but making engines is hard and complex and expensive in a wide range of fields... it wasn't an accident that the west was keen to sell engines and aircraft to Russia and the Ukraine and other former soviet states not to mention eastern europe which they essentially banned from working with Russia to continue making planes and engines.

The west went to a lot of trouble to destroy the Soviet industries in a lot of fields including microelectronics, shipbuilding, aerospace technology, and very much engines...

A gas station with nukes was an insult from Obama, but it was also the dream of the western elites... you just supply gas and don't make anything for yourself and buy everything you need from us... which they were largely doing till the west couldn't help itself and started sanctions and pressure and coercion to bully them over their former allies like Syria and Serbia and relations with Georgia and Ukraine and Belarus and the various stans including Afghanistan.

Sanctions have made them independent and made them realise they have to provide essentials for themselves or otherwise the west will try to block their access and use it to hurt them.

Even France buys its hot section titanium parts for its engines from the US... when Russia was talking about the PD series replacing all foreign engines in use in Russia the French offered to buy the titanium hot parts used in their engines from Russia instead of the US who were clearly over charging them as a sort of incentive to keep using French engines. Of course the sweetener is that French engines are widely used so that is a lot of work and a lot of trade, but the problem is that anything that might benefit Russia would become the subject of sanctions eventually... so they made the right choice in the end... the only choice.

Sometimes having the best plane does not matter if you don't have enough or you don't have enough pilots or fuel or ammo...

The west might have lots of planes but how often are their pilots flying and are they pilots because they are not white and not male?

How long will their airfields last in a real conflict... the west doesn't normally worry too much about defending their airfields because most countries they attack don't have Iskander or Zircon.

Arrow wrote:You once mentioned that the Su-57 has on-board electronics that are not inferior to the F-35 and are even better. This is often the argument of Western fanboys. How is the F-35 incredibly packed with incredible electronics, radar, etc. This is their last line of defense after hard parameters such as maximum speed, operational range, kinematic capabilities, etc. in favor of the Su-57. I wonder how the Chinese J-20 compares to this. I doubt it could compete with the Su-57.

The electronics of the F-35 will only become competitive with those in the Su-57 with the TR-3 upgrade which they still do not have in service. At the point F-35 TR-3 does come in service fully operational, right now the Block 4 software for it is a non-starter, the Russians will probably have the Su-57M.

You could argue the F-35 uses more modern engines and it still has a better HMD than the Su-57. It also has EOTS which means it is more suitable for identifying ground targets. But that is about it. It loses everywhere else.

The pathetic airframe the F-35 uses negates any advantage provided by the engines. The HMD is mostly useful for off-boresight shots, but it is not like you cannot do that with the Su-57 helmet either, not to mention the Su-57's higher agility means pulling off those kinds of shots is easier.