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lycantrop wrote:nothing unexpected, but i will share it nevertheless
US not to pull out troops from Syria until goals accomplished - UN envoy Haley
https://www.rt.com/usa/424204-us-troops-syria-pull-haley/
Next goal is Idlib...im expecting next "chemical attacks" from "the monster","the dictator" Assad
Isos wrote:
Yeah but that missile seems to have the red cover on it..
Well it would meant they hit an airbase which didn't happen according to them and to russian who said they intercepted all the missiles.
If they really targeted the airbase like russian said but really thought the missiles were intercepted and lied by saying no airbase was targeted just to don't admit loses. Then ot is a proof they lied and that syrian really destroyed their missiles.
And I don't think it is a protection the red thing but a part of the missiles for aerodynamics.
JohninMK wrote:
Keep up mate. Check out posts 129/148 above
Where did that photo come from? Maybe it's from earlier in the conflict? A trashed SyAAF airbase perhaps?
Isos wrote:Where did that photo come from? Maybe it's from earlier in the conflict? A trashed SyAAF airbase perhaps?
Another forum. No source. Probably from earlier they would have talk about this if it was from yesterday.
lulldapull wrote:UN on board now with the actual facts:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/05/un-sources-say-rebel-forces-not-assad-used-sarin-gas/315588/
About fukking time.
Lol, US is mad at their own failures in Syria so they are planning to add more sanctions to Russia for their support of Assad.
Russia still has yet to respond for last round of sanctions.
Former head of Britain's special forces says Assad 'doesn't need to use gas' because he's 'already won the war' but give May 'benefit of the doubt' over intelligence
A former head of Britain's Special Forces has challenged Theresa May's claim that President Assad was behind the chemical attack in Douma. Major General Jonathan Shaw said: 'Why would Assad use chemical weapons at this time? He's won the war.
'That's not just my opinion, it is shared by senior commanders in the US military. There is no rationale behind Assad's involvement whatsoever. 'He's convinced the rebels to leave occupied areas in buses. He's gained their territory. So why would he be bothering gassing them?
Speaking exclusively to The Mail on Sunday, the ex-SAS and Parachute Regiment commander added: 'The jihadists and the various opposition groups who've been fighting against Assad have much greater motivation to launch a chemical weapons attack and make it look like Assad was responsible.
'Their motivation being that they want to keep the Americans involved in the war – following Trump saying the US was going to leave Syria for other people to sort out.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616533/Former-head-Britains-special-forces-says-Assad-doesnt-need-use-gas.html#ixzz5CkycxjQG
KiloGolf wrote:from the official CBS news yt channel: "How did Russia response to the airstrikes in Syria?"
RUSSIAN SUPPLY OF S-300 SYSTEMS TO SYRIA MAJOR THREAT TO IAF
With Russia considering supplying the S-300 surface-to- air missile systems to Syria, Israel’s air superiority is at risk of being challenged in one of its most difficult arenas. With a de-confliction mechanism in place with Russia over Syria in order to avoid any unwanted conflict with the superpower, Israel has largely had free reign over Syrian skies to carry out strikes on targets deemed a threat to the Jewish state.
Over the course of Syria’s seven-year-long civil war, Israel has publicly admitted to having struck over 100 Hezbollah convoys and other targets in Syria, while keeping mum on hundreds of other strikes that have been attributed to the Jewish state.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that strikes will continue when “we have information and operational feasibility.”
Syrian air defenses are largely Soviet-era systems, comprised of SA-2s, SA-5s and SA-6s, as well as more sophisticated tactical surface-to-air missiles such as the SA-17 and SA-22 systems. The most up-to-date system that Moscow has supplied to the Syrian regime is the short range Pantsir S-1, which has shot down drones and missiles that have flown over Syria.
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Russian-supply-of-S-300-systems-to-Syria-major-threat-to-IAF-549837
Isos wrote:KiloGolf wrote:from the official CBS news yt channel: "How did Russia response to the airstrikes in Syria?"
What is this bullshit !! First time I watch a interview about syria on English/US channel, I was expecting shit but this is worse !!
The therories are worse than the earth is flat thing
@AlSuraEnglish
2 hours ago
#BREAKING - First photos of #Syrian convoy heading to Yarmouk camp, which saw #ISIS expand its territory while #US, #UK and #French cruise missile strikes were hitting Syrian positions around #Damascus. ISIS currently launching mortars towards Damascus.
@SSNP_FieldMedia
3 hours ago
#SyrianArmy regains with the support of #SSNP forces and Allied forces, control of the villages and towns of : #Qunaytrat #Salim #EzzAddin, in addition to several blocks of muddans and fortifications west of the town of #Tal_dara, southwest of the town of #Salamiyah.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights managed to monitored interception by the regime forces to tens of missiles which targeted their positions and military bases in the Syrian territory, where several intersected sources confirmed to the Syrian Observatory, that the number missiles that were downed, exceeded 65 missiles, of the total number of missiles fired by the Trio Coalition, while the air and rocket strikes, caused great material damage, while no information about casualties was reported yet.
Isos wrote:Warning !!!! Funny --->
http://www.syriahr.com/en/?p=89324
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights managed to monitored interception by the regime forces to tens of missiles which targeted their positions and military bases in the Syrian territory, where several intersected sources confirmed to the Syrian Observatory, that the number missiles that were downed, exceeded 65 missiles, of the total number of missiles fired by the Trio Coalition, while the air and rocket strikes, caused great material damage, while no information about casualties was reported yet.
This time western media don't quote them
lulldapull wrote:guys something that bugs me about this whole situation in Syria is a very peculiar issue.
Trump and his thugs launch 103 tomahawks on Syrian targets. both Iran and Russia combined have tens of thousands of SRMB/ MRBM/ Cruise missiles.........yet none are launched against hundreds of potential targets including marshaling yards, warehouses, weapons depots, training centers, known dual use military/ para military sites, and ofcourse covert CIA/ MIT/ Mossad facilities, within Syria!
How strange!......Is this to say we are scared of the consequences, of perhaps escalation?......I am just baffled! The gloves should really come off now, as the other side doesn't give a fukk! They happy to gas their own proxies.......fukkin hell, we still want to play nice I guess.
lulldapull wrote:UN on board now with the actual facts:
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/05/un-sources-say-rebel-forces-not-assad-used-sarin-gas/315588/
About fukking time.
Peto Lucem
@PetoLucem
11 minutes ago
NEW MAP: Military situation in southern #Damascus. Syrian Government Forces and allied Palestinian militias are gathering their forces in staging areas. A large scale offensive against #ISIS in #Yarmouk Camp and Al- #Qadam districts is expected to commence soon. #Syria
How on earth would killing MORE people rescue Syria?
Why do so many people in politics and the media want to start wars? Since I toured a sordid hospital full of wounded people in Bucharest at Christmas 1989, and even more after I saw for the first time (in Vilnius in 1991) what a human head looks like after a bullet has passed through it, I have seen it as an absolute duty to warn against armed conflict. It is a filthy thing.
No doubt there are times when we must fight. But there are plenty more when we should not.
Any fool can kill a man in a second and ruin a city in a week. But it takes long years of nurture to raise a child to adulthood, and centuries to build a civilisation.
Yet I look around me and see the mouths of intelligent people opened wide, yelling for an attack on Syria, when the only certain outcome of that will be blood and screams and ruins, and the deaths of innocents in 'collateral damage'. What good will this do?
What is wrong with them? They are not cruel and stupid, yet they call for actions which are both.
Haven't we got enough misery in Syria already? The place is a mass of ruins, graveyards and refugee camps. To what end? The only mercy for Syria will come when the war ends, yet we seek to widen and extend it.
Don't we have more than enough of such disaster in Iraq and Libya, where state-sponsored panic and emotional claims of atrocities excused the launching of wars so stupid and dangerous that I wonder if these places can ever recover?
Perhaps worse, by creating an unending river of migrants through the Middle East and the Mediterranean, I suspect they have ruined Europe for good.
Why are we even taking sides in Syria? As Julian Lewis MP, chairman of the Defence Select Committee, rightly pointed out last week, President Assad is a monster. But his opponents are maniacs.
The Syrian jihadi gangsters which our Government crazily helps and backs – the Al-Nusra Front and Jaish al-Islam – are the sort of fanatics we would arrest on sight if we found them in Birmingham.
Anyway, Boris Johnson's Foreign Office is firmly pro-monster in all parts of the world where it suits it to be so.
British Royals and Ministers literally bow down as they accept medals from the head-chopping fanatics of Saudi Arabia, now engaged in a bloody, aggressive war in Yemen.
Britain maintains a naval base in Bahrain, whose rulers in 2011 crushed protests with severe violence followed by torture.
As Amnesty International puts it, 'using an array of tools of repression, including harassment, arbitrary detention and torture, the government of Bahrain has managed to crush a formerly thriving civil society and reduced it to a few lone voices who still dare to speak out'.
Britain daren't even admit that our 'friend' Egypt is ruled by a military junta that seized power illegally in defiance of elections which we had supposedly supported but which produced the wrong result.
Field Marshal Sisi's August 2013 Cairo massacre, in which almost 600 peaceful protesters were killed and thousands more wounded, is politely forgotten.
So is the Chinese communist regime's mass murder (1,000 are estimated to have died) in Peking in June 1989.
The men whose power rests on that ruthless massacre are welcome to dine at Buckingham Palace. But surely we can't allow Assad to use chemical weapons?
We would never tolerate that. Would we? Well, when Saddam Hussein was our ally against Iran back in 1988, he undoubtedly used poison gas against Kurds in Halabja.
And in September 1988 the Foreign Office declined to get outraged, saying: 'We believe it better to maintain a dialogue with others if we want to influence their actions.
Punitive measures such as unilateral sanctions would not be effective in changing Iraq's behaviour over chemical weapons, and would damage British interests to no avail.'
Which brings me to the final point. Do we even know that Assad used chemical weapons? I have actually read the reports of the last such alleged attack in Khan Sheikhoun a year ago, and they prove nothing. In fact, they are quite fishy. At the time of writing, I have yet to see a British or US media report on this alleged attack from closer than Beirut, 70 miles from the scene.
Many seemingly confident and graphic accounts come from Istanbul, 900 miles away, or from London or Washington. Where are they getting their information from? Here's a clue. The Saudi-backed faction in control of Douma at the time of the alleged attack, Jaish al- Islam (the Army of Islam), were themselves accused of using poison gas against Kurds in Aleppo in April 2016.
They are not especially nice. Their other main claim to fame is that they displayed captured Syrian Army officers in cages and used them as human shields.
They have spent several years indiscriminately shelling Damascus from Douma, having taken the local inhabitants hostage, and then squawking about war crimes if the Syrian government hit back at them, which it did much as the Iraqi government (our friends) did to Islamic State in Mosul and Fallujah. I would not look for any heroes in this cauldron. And if you want to watch war games on a TV screen, can I suggest that you buy your own virtual reality equipment?
The real thing may look pretty and neat, but real people die as it happens and, if you supported it, their deaths will be on your conscience.
Is there any better illustration of the huge Soviet-style revolution we have suffered than this moving picture of nurses in an NHS hospital, praying before the start of their shift, half a century ago?
Nursing and hospitals themselves are more or less a Christian invention – the beautiful 15th Century hospital in Beaune in France is an early example. Yet now open displays of Christianity in the NHS are risky, as they offend against the state creed of 'Equality and Diversity' under which Christians are an embarrassing, outdated nuisance.
Likewise, Ealing Council's ban on peaceful protests outside an abortion clinic overturns the whole legal and moral system of this country.
Doctors and nurses trained to save and protect life are instead employed to snuff life out.
Many women suffer this procedure under pressure from selfish men. Many others have never had the alternatives explained to them.
While this goes on, thousands of childless couples yearn to adopt but find the procedure increasingly difficult, while abortions are signed off by officialdom with barely a second thought.
Why? Mainly, it is because the killing of almost 200,000 babies a year sustains a vast industry employing thousands, many of them very well paid, and they don't like criticism.
Despite claiming to be 'pro-choice', they don't want anyone drawing attention to that choice.
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Modern alleged artists such as Tracey Emin long to be attacked by people like me. The loathing of conservative suburbanites actually adds value to their stunts.
But now that Ms Unmade Bed has openly announced that her silly pink illuminated scribble, at St Pancras is pro-EU propaganda, shouldn't it be taken down? Aren't there rules against political advertising in such places?
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2018/04/how-on-earth-would-killing-more-people-rescue-syria.htmla
Aristide wrote:
Assad is burned. Evryone knows no European nation ever will deal with Assad. Putin knows this as well. And Syria needs western deals to be build up.
GunshipDemocracy wrote:Aristide wrote:
Assad is burned. Evryone knows no European nation ever will deal with Assad. Putin knows this as well. And Syria needs western deals to be build up.
if you define European nation as people run globalist totalitarian regime then yes you're right
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