[Official] Armata Discussion thread #1

MOSCOW, November 18. /TASS/. The price of the new Armata tank is too high, Oleg Bochkaryov, the deputy chairman of Russia’s Military-industrial Commission said Tuesday. The contract on production of Armata tanks will be signed with Russia’s leading tank manufacturer Uralvagonzavod for three years, and the price of combat vehicles has already been defined, Bochkaryov said.

Bochkaryov confirmed that the first Armata will be will be produced by the end of the year, and on May 9 the new tanks will take part in the Victory Day parade in Moscow. According to Bochkaryov, 24 machines on Armata platforms will be shown – 12 tanks and 12 heavy combat vehicles.

It is suggested that the tank will have a remote control gun and the crew will be placed in an isolated crew cell.
The Uralvagonzavod reacted to the accusations saying it will work on lowering the price.

Cpt Caz wrote:I hope the designers won't be forced to cut any corners because of this.

GarryB wrote:Getting the first shot is important but being able to take hits and continue fighting is also important... the APS system is supposed to be able to stop current threats (ie 1,700m/s) while a new system in development is supposed to be able to stop even faster threats (2,500m/s-3,000m/s)

the standard APS for medium and light vehicles is called Standard, while the system for the heavy vehicles (armata) is called Afghanistan. The new system for faster threats is called Zaslon apparently.

Asf wrote:You're wrong, zaslon is a ukraininan thing.

New armor - is not the only means of protecting the crew of "Armata". According to some, this will be the first tank, on which it will be installed new means of active protection against rocket-propelled grenades and sabots. This is the latest development of the Kolomna Engineering Bureau - "Afghan".

From open sources about it is known that the radar system is operating in the millimeter range, the first to use the protective ammunition warhead type percussion core, not fragmentation as before. Middle line interception missiles, rocket-propelled grenades or projectiles of 15-20 meters and a maximum speed of interception armor-piercing projectiles - 1700 m / s.

In the future, "Armata" is planned to establish a more perfect system of protection "Barrier (Zaslon)". It will already be able to intercept targets flying at a speed of 2500 to 3000 m / s.

Full article: http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201411211239-uvb5.htm

Vann7 wrote:

Thats quite nice..  3000m/s is about mach 8.7 . Traditional Tanks kinetic salvo fly at mach 5.5  .So in theory
the active protection could intercept even a plane hypersonic air to ground missile.  Hellfire is like 10 times slower ,less than Mach 1.0 its speed ,same , TOmahawks missiles too , so we are speaking here about what? RAil Guns projectiles? Brahmos2 ? thats very fast hypersonic weapons.. mmm.. seems overkill . For sure even if a heavy missile like tomahawk is intercepted the shock wave will still wipe the tank..

sepheronx wrote:

TR1 wrote:http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1078047.html

Armata is dubbed T-14.

IFV Armata being bought for sure, I am pleased.

So is this why they never bothered to go with the BMPT and BMPT72?

Zivo wrote:I'm guessing the reason they chose to go with displaying the MBT and BMP variants is because they will likely be the most common models, and they have a significant amount of front and rear engine hulls for testing and training. Maybe KBTM's BMPT model put a bit of doubt in the minds the Russian military about the twin 30mm/ATGM layout.

So, will the T-14 BMP have a 100/30mm, or the 57mm gun?

sepheronx wrote:

TR1 wrote:BMPT = fire support vehicle.

Armata is being bought in IFV variant, so functions as a troop carrier.

If there will be an Armata BMPT variant, we will not see it in the parade, at least according to available info.

OK. So this armata bmp will be predominantly a troop carrier with some firepower than. A heavy troop carrier. Sounds awesome. Cant wait to see this.