[Official] Armata Discussion thread #2

Zivo wrote:I pulled some images from otvaga, showing the left side of the turret which for some odd reason isn't photographed often.

Something I've noticed from these images is that bump which I suspect is the directional smoke launcher can rotate 360 degrees.

Notice in this image the smoke launcher is actually pointed over the roof of the turret, towards the building with the black and gold sign.

Another shot of what I suspect is a radar element of the APS.

Given that this thing can be aimed, it could actually be effectively used as a instant-response close range anti-personnel weapon if loaded with fragmentation grenades, just in case someone tries to run up and gank your tank with C4.

Werewolf wrote:

Given that this thing can be aimed, it could actually be effectively used as a instant-response close range anti-personnel weapon if loaded with fragmentation grenades, just in case someone tries to run up and gank your tank with C4.

Battlefield Whitephosphorous^^

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

Given that this thing can be aimed, it could actually be effectively used as a instant-response close range anti-personnel weapon if loaded with fragmentation grenades, just in case someone tries to run up and gank your tank with C4.

Battlefield Whitephosphorous^^

They may just find a vehicle, strap 4 C-4's on the hood, drive at full speed towards the tank and jump out at the last second, and detonate...

Zivo wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Werewolf wrote:

Given that this thing can be aimed, it could actually be effectively used as a instant-response close range anti-personnel weapon if loaded with fragmentation grenades, just in case someone tries to run up and gank your tank with C4.

Battlefield Whitephosphorous^^

They may just find a vehicle, strap 4 C-4's on the hood, drive at full speed towards the tank and jump out at the last second, and detonate...

That's why the T-14 has an auxiliary 2A42.

or aux. 57mm GL. that sh!t would rekt anything not under IFV level armor(or medium class i think.)

Zivo wrote:Here's the one image that actually shows the launcher for those who haven't been following. Each unit has 12 grenades, so 24 total between the two launchers.



The smoke obscuration system on these vehicles is really elaborate. Imaging infrared seekers are going to have a tough time with armata as the launcher can accurately and efficiently put a cloud between the missile and armata. Since radar is involved, passive lock-on offers no advantage against these countermeasures. Russian tank design has always put strong emphasis on multi-layer defense, this philosophy has been carried over to the new generation of vehicles.

Given that this thing can be aimed, it could actually be effectively used as a instant-response close range anti-personnel weapon if loaded with fragmentation grenades, just in case someone tries to run up and gank your tank with C4.

magnumcromagnon wrote:They may just find a vehicle, strap 4 C-4's on the hood, drive at full speed towards the tank and jump out at the last second, and detonate...

chicken wrote:

Also, if they follow the model from before, should this line be the grenade launcher?

kvs wrote:

Zivo wrote:From Otvaga:

Now I am confused about the size of the gun.   It looks longer and with a greater diameter.   Is it 125 mm or 152 mm?

Dima wrote:

kvs wrote:

Zivo wrote:From Otvaga:

Now I am confused about the size of the gun.   It looks longer and with a greater diameter.   Is it 125 mm or 152 mm?

The gun could be longer.
Btw, I think that comparison is not accurate. See the tracks on road and you might notice there is some difference between distance of Armata and T-90 from the camera.

alexZam wrote:On a humorous note:

Dropped, painted in politically correct color, and don't forget to check out da rims, yo.  

Werewolf wrote:

alexZam wrote:On a humorous note:

Dropped, painted in politically correct color, and don't forget to check out da rims, yo.  

The gansta level is weak in you Padawan.

It lacks neon lights beneath and it is not bouncing, long way to go....

alexZam wrote:On a humorous note:

Dropped, painted in politically correct color, and don't forget to check out da rims, yo.  

alexZam wrote:

Export version to Asian market would have a spoiler and custom dragon paint on carbon-fiber custom hood and underwings, fo'shizl.



Spread it to otvaga and paralay guys. Let them have a good laugh too.

Werewolf wrote:Well it is definitley a plus over T-90/72 which lacks reverse speed and automatic gearbox.

The T-14 Armata would have HP/T ratio by 1500hp engine:


56t = 26.79 hp/t
55t = 27.27 hp/t
54t = 27.77 hp/t
53t = 28.30 hp/t
52t = 28.85 hp/t

Sounds like a vast improvement over the previous hp/t ratios.

Zivo wrote:This was posted on Gur Khan attacks.

http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2015/05/blog-post_97.html

Basically it's a summary of a 2009 report covering the transmission for the unified chassis (Armata).

Werewolf wrote:

Sounds like a vast improvement over the previous hp/t ratios.

magnumcromagnon wrote:
This is true, one of the few glaring flaws of the T-90 was it's ridiculously slow reverse speed. And yes reverse speed is very important for a MBT, especially in a urban warfare environment.

Cyberspec wrote:

Zivo wrote:This was posted on Gur Khan attacks.

http://gurkhan.blogspot.com/2015/05/blog-post_97.html

Basically it's a summary of a 2009 report covering the transmission for the unified chassis (Armata).

Pretty good post by the "Khan"...and thanks for sharing here.

On Otvaga I noticed he's bragging how his prediction re: the Armata's wheels (sizewise in between the T-72/90 and T-80 wheels) came true.

hate to rain on your parade but the initial batches would have their engines derated to 1200hp