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    VVS Russian Air Force: News #1

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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:58 pm

    http://russianplanes.net/images/to97000/096013.jpg

    Nice size comparison.

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 28, 2013 9:09 am

    Nice photo... there is more power going through the tail rotor of the Mi-26 than goes through the main rotor of a Hughes 500 helo.
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:23 am

    Not VVS but a new Police Ka-226 (Ministry of Internal Affairs in Krasnodar Territory - Dec 2012)

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    And a recent VVS example

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:33 am

    Its ability to swap out its rear pod makes it very modular and very flexible... a very cool new design.

    It should actually be a good basis for a super light (without its rear pod) High altitude helo, with the efficient rotor design offering all power to lift.

    Equally in high mountains a real problem is side gusts for which small tail rotors are not often effective enough to counter, so the coaxial design should be ideal.
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    Post  Zivo Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:15 am

    The Ka-226 isn't easy on the eyes, but it's practical. What camo pattern does the guy in the back have?

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    Post  TR1 Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:05 am

    http://www.vesti.ru/only_video.html?vid=482509

    Gamma-S1 in service footage.
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    Post  Cyberspec Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:41 am

    Latest "Take Off" magazine (.pdf)
    http://en.take-off.ru/pdf_to/to25.pdf

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    Post  coolieno99 Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:50 am

    MiG-29OVT demonstrates thrust-vectoring maneuvers




    video from China showing different perspective of the MiG-29OVT

    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMzIwMTI0MTUy.html
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    Post  TR1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:36 pm

    http://russianplanes.net/images/to98000/097785.jpg

    Su-35C weapons testing Smile ?
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    Post  George1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:14 pm

    Are there going to be any other deliveries of Su-30 fighters this year?
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    Post  TR1 Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:18 pm

    Irkut said they will be delivering as many as 10 this year.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:50 pm

    TR1 wrote:http://russianplanes.net/images/to98000/097785.jpg

    Su-35C weapons testing Smile ?

    This is too good to be true.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:26 am

    Interesting.

    Based on the colours I would say it was the red R-77s being tested, the R-73s have black bands so they are not live rounds, though they will have seekers for lock on training.
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    Post  medo Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:45 pm

    GarryB wrote:Interesting.

    Based on the colours I would say it was the red R-77s being tested, the R-73s have black bands so they are not live rounds, though they will have seekers for lock on training.

    I think white R-77 is real missile.

    Black 01 behind seems to carry big LGB, while red 04 have Kh-31 ARM. I wonder if they have targeting pod for LGB tests.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:37 am

    Test missiles are often painted red and have black and white calibration markings on them so speed and distance can be determined from photos.

    The white round might be an operational round used for checking locking range or other parameters, or it might just be a dummy.

    I wonder if they have targeting pod for LGB tests.

    The Su-35S's IRST could perform buddy target marking for bombs.

    Note the 5th gen avionics of the 35 should allow fully multirole employment of weapons, so air targets, ground based radar targets, and pinpoint hard ground targets should be able to be engaged in a single mission by one aircraft, though they wont operate alone normally.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:41 am

    Fun fact about the Su-35s IRST, the covering is made from crystal, on Su-27 it was glass.
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    Post  Cyberspec Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:01 am

    GarryB wrote:The Su-35S's IRST could perform buddy target marking for bombs.

    Note the 5th gen avionics of the 35 should allow fully multirole employment of weapons, so air targets, ground based radar targets, and pinpoint hard ground targets should be able to be engaged in a single mission by one aircraft, though they wont operate alone normally.

    Fun fact about the Su-35s IRST, the covering is made from crystal, on Su-27 it was glass.

    Interesting...I wasn't aware of that.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:27 am

    Fun fact about the Su-35s IRST, the covering is made from crystal, on Su-27 it was glass.

    Even greater fun fact... your facts are wrong.

    The wavelengths of IR an IRST and thermal imager use glass is opaque and does not let it through... that is why glass houses are soo good... they let the light in which is absorbed into the objects in the glass house and are converted into heat which can't escape through the glass as a wave and is trapped.

    Both transparancies are made of crystal, just as the lenses in Thermal Imagers are made of crystal too.
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    Post  TR1 Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:46 am

    http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=1149958

    From some "in" people:

    Regarding Su-27: Нет. Там стекло. Потому и убивается быстро.

    Regarding Su-35: Оно стоит огого, потому что это не стекло, а искусственно выращенный кристалл.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:01 am

    Hahaha... sorry, the problem clearly is the definition of "glass".

    Normal every day glass is designed to let optical light through, but block longer and shorter wavelengths like heat.

    Obviously a silicone based piece of glass would therefore not be much use on a device that detects heat, but crystaline materials including germanium and sapphire can be used, though if not properly grown they can turn opaque over time and of course are much more expensive.

    I rather suspect the Su-27 used Germainium glass, while the Su-35 uses Sapphire. (note Silicone, Germainium, and Sapphire are all called glasses and are actually all crystals.)
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    Post  GarryB Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:48 am

    It seems there is a new model 80mm rocket getting ready for service.

    It has a heavier warhead (9.5kgs vs 4-6kgs) and a longer range (up to 6km compared with 2-4km) and will likely be the basis for the new guided models.

    http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&rurl=translate.google.com&tl=en&u=http://www.armstrade.org/includes/periodics/news/2013/0218/152017150/detail.shtml&usg=ALkJrhgOr_0ZIf7qMgxqbNHsXMSB2jCXPA

    This will make Russian helos and ground attack aircraft and UCAVs more potent...
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    Post  TR1 Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:14 pm

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    Su-35 makes big payloads look manageable. Surprised
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    Post  GarryB Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:44 am

    The Kh-31 looks very big on a Mig-29M... and why shouldn't it... it is almost 5 metres long... looks small under a Flanker wing.

    Nice pics... thanks for posting.
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    Post  medo Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:36 pm

    Any info, why black 01 have cover over IRST? For testing?
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    Post  Viktor Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:22 pm

    @TR1 excellent photos.

    Isn`t that KAB-1500L, it looks huge.

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