France Foreign Policy and Diplomacy

The above is the one I was talking about. Same imbecilic smear. Spooging about Russian civilians dying tragic deaths.
These sick, sneering f*cks actually attribute the crash to the "low cost" Russian airline itself. Because the French and the
rest of NATzO lover their terrorist proxies.

kvs wrote:

The above is the one I was talking about.   Same imbecilic smear.   Spooging about Russian civilians dying tragic deaths.
These sick, sneering f*cks actually attribute the crash to the "low cost" Russian airline itself.   Because the French and the
rest of NATzO lover their terrorist proxies.

Its called satire. You have to accept the fact that comedy is in our culture.

We are not melancholic like russians or japanese culture.

Aristide wrote:President Macron kicked out israeli police officers from St. Anne church in Jerusalem.



St. Anne was give to France in 1856 and is french territory.

Pathetic copy of Chirac's real reaction toward israeli force 20 years ago. Staged up. Everyone know who are Macron's bosses. He worked for Rotchilds...

But i like your double standards. At one topic you cry because France crushs africans so much and exploits africa and now such a rant...pathetic.

French culture is a double standard... you cry that a building burns, and make jokes and laugh when people die in plane crashes...

Isos wrote:

Aristide wrote:President Macron kicked out israeli police officers from St. Anne church in Jerusalem.



St. Anne was give to France in 1856 and is french territory.

Pathetic copy of Chirac's real reaction toward israeli force 20 years ago. Staged up. Everyone know who are Macron's bosses. He worked for Rotchilds...

Ohhh he worked for Rotchilds, a 3rd class family with no international power whatsovere and compared to otzer billionaires poor. So whats your problem with Rothsxhilds, i mean beside your propably antisemitism?

GarryB wrote:

But i like your double standards. At one topic you cry because France crushs africans so much and exploits africa and now such a rant...pathetic.

French culture is a double standard... you cry that a building burns, and make jokes and laugh when people die in plane crashes...

Thats not double standard.

Satire was basicly invented in France. And Satire can do anything and evrything.

Satire also in France makes fun about Notre Dame.



Im a nationalist. Notre Dame is a symbol for me. The satire about it angers me, but being french, i know what Satire is and let it be. Because thats the goal, to anger people.

Sounds like Satire is an excuse to offend and be offensive... something invented in France too.

French hypocrisy runs down to the genes. There is a law in France that prevents any sort of denigration, including via "satire", of
the French Jewish minority. In general the PC culture in France is supposedly all about the sensitivity of gays, trannies, furries and
all sorts of SJW freakery. The litmus test of this phony "tolerance and accommodation" is how they treat Russian civilian victims
of terrorism. The mask comes off and the steaming pile of maggot infested excrement comes out.

I dare the resident troll to provide a single sample of Charlie Hebdo making fun of Jewish victims of terror. Or laughing at the
death of gays, trannies, etc.

Ohhh he worked for Rotchilds, a 3rd class family with no international power whatsovere and compared to otzer billionaires poor. So whats your problem with Rothsxhilds, i mean beside your propably antisemitism?

He still works for them. That's a fimily that care only about their own business. They just passed a law forbiding antizionism. They say being antizionist means antisionist.

kvs wrote:French hypocrisy runs down to the genes.   There is a law in France that prevents any sort of denigration, including via "satire", of
the French Jewish minority.   In general the PC culture in France is supposedly all about the sensitivity of gays, trannies, furries and
all sorts of SJW freakery.   The litmus test of this phony "tolerance and accommodation" is how they treat Russian civilian victims
of terrorism.   The mask comes off and the steaming pile of maggot infested excrement comes out.

I dare the resident troll to provide a single sample of Charlie Hebdo making fun of Jewish victims of terror.   Or laughing at the
death of gays, trannies, etc.  

You have no culture of freedom. Anyone who doesnt agree with you is "troll".

Quite pathetic.

But as you wish

You have no culture of freedom. Anyone who doesnt agree with you is "troll".

Quite pathetic.

But surely your culture of freedom and tolerance should lead you to not criticise him exercising his right to an opinion, or describing him as pathetic?

But then your wonderful culture of peace and freedom and tolerance took part in a cruise missile attack on Syria based on fake information about a chemical weapon attack that never happened, but then it suited your agenda so you supported it right?

GarryB wrote:

You have no culture of freedom. Anyone who doesnt agree with you is "troll".

Quite pathetic.

But surely your culture of freedom and tolerance should lead you to not criticise him exercising his right to an opinion, or describing him as pathetic?

But then your wonderful culture of peace and freedom and tolerance took part in a cruise missile attack on Syria based on fake information about a chemical weapon attack that never happened, but then it suited your agenda so you supported it right?

I have no culture of tolerance. Im a supremacist.

As for Syria, its free game. There live on europeans.

I have no culture of tolerance. Im a supremacist.

so it's only freedom & luxury for u & ur kind. By what right can u claim them at the expense of others that u consider below u?
Ur claim to supremacy on flimsy pseudo-scientific grounds disqualifies u from being worthy of anything.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

I have no culture of tolerance. Im a supremacist.

so it's only freedom & luxury for u & ur kind. By what right can u claim them at the expense of others that u consider below u?
Ur claim to supremacy on flimsy pseudo-scientific grounds disqualifies u from being worthy of anything.

Might makes right. Thats core view of french foreign politics. Ask Gary, new zealand got a taste of it.

We bombed a ship in their harbor in Auckland in the 80th. They arrested two of our agents. In response we crushed new zealand economy. Blocked them from trade with EU and even forced their allies Australia and UK to abandon them. Within few days they kneeld infront us, released both agents.

Might makes right does not stand on flimsy pseudo scientific grounds. Its core principle of power.

The Soviets detained Greenpeace activists near Novaya Zemlya & sent them home w/o any loss of life/property.
Try to send another ship to the NSR w/o Russia's permission & see what happens.
France may be mighty vs. NZ but it kisses Uncle Sam's boots day in & day out.

Tsavo Lion wrote:The Soviets detained Greenpeace activists near Novaya Zemlya & sent them home w/o any loss of life/property.
Try to send another ship to the NSR w/o Russia's permission & see what happens.
France may be mighty vs. NZ but it kisses Uncle Sam's boots day in & day out.

Oh really? Last time i checked France is the western country that backstabs USA again and again.

In that case, backstabbing isn't a sign of being mighty. Treachery & cowardice r the better words.

Egypt turns away from France

According to the French newspaper "La Tribune" in Michel Cabirol's article "Armement: nouvelle claque de la France en Egypte", Egypt is close to completing negotiations with the Italian shipbuilding association Fincantieri on the acquisition of two FREMM frigates for the Egyptian fleet. Presumably, we are talking about Egypt's purchase of the last two frigates of the FREMM type (ninth and tenth), built by Fincantieri for the Italian Navy - F 598 Spartaco Schergat (at the testing stage) and F 589 Emilio Bianchi (now under construction afloat).

According to the publication, this was yet another evidence of Egypt's turn from military-technical cooperation with France, which has been so actively developing over the past few years.

Recall that as part of a package of contracts with the French side, signed in February 2015, Egypt acquired a frigate of the FREMM D 651 Normandie type FREMM, which was originally built for the French fleet and was undergoing testing. The frigate, Egyptianly named FFG 1001 Tahya Misr, was transferred to the Egyptian Navy in June 2015. The contract provided an option for the possible construction of another FREMM type frigate for Egypt in France, but it was never implemented, and now Egypt has requested the Italians to purchase two FREMM type frigates.

It is reported that both Italian frigates will be sold at a total price of approximately 1.2 billion euros (apparently without the cost of missile ammunition), while the Italian state investment bank Cassa Depositi e Prestiti (CDP) will provide partial funding, which is ready to provide a loan against state guarantees in the amount of up to 500 million euros. Thus, the Italian offer is beneficial for the Egyptians both commercially - the 2015 contract with France for the acquisition of Normandie frigate amounted to 950 million euros (including the cost of training personnel and service for five years), in addition to the package also included a contract worth 400 million euros missile weapons for this frigate (Aster 15 missiles and Exocet MM40 Block 3 anti-ship missiles).

According to the publication, France’s relations with Egypt deteriorated sharply after the visit of French President Emanuel Macron to Cairo in January 2019, when Macron publicly criticized Egyptian President Marshal Abdel al-Sisi for the human rights situation and pressure on civil society, these public attacks were not agreed with the Egyptian side, and the Egyptian leader took Macron's actions as a personal insult.

As a result, the Egyptian side virtually froze all planned additional agreements on the purchase of French weapons - including option contracts for 12 Dassault Rafale fighters (in addition to 24 ordered) and two Gowind project corvettes (in addition to four ordered). There was also no deal to purchase 12 Airbus Helicopters H225M transport helicopters for the Egypt Air Force.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3926796.html

so it's only freedom & luxury for u & ur kind. By what right can u claim them at the expense of others that u consider below u?
Ur claim to supremacy on flimsy pseudo-scientific grounds disqualifies u from being worthy of anything.

Dominance is a good test of character... the west has failed this test.

Might makes right. Thats core view of french foreign politics. Ask Gary, new zealand got a taste of it.

Something the ignorant that resort to violence to solve their problems would say...

You are not more evolved and civilised than the rest of us, you are much worse I am afraid... do you even count as human?

Might makes right does not stand on flimsy pseudo scientific grounds. Its core principle of power.

Of course... a lot of very naive New Zealanders learned never to trust France again... we sent lots of men to Europe for WWI and then again for WWII to save you from your enemies... we even sent men to Vietnam to fight alongside the Americans... we should have known better.

France may be mighty vs. NZ but it kisses Uncle Sam's boots day in & day out.

Showing their real character... slimy.

Oh really? Last time i checked France is the western country that backstabs USA again and again.

Don't know why they call you cheese eating surrender monkeys... Maybe because as the term suggests you can't be trusted even by your best ally.

What does that say about your character?

According to the publication, France’s relations with Egypt deteriorated sharply after the visit of French President Emanuel Macron to Cairo in January 2019, when Macron publicly criticized Egyptian President Marshal Abdel al-Sisi for the human rights situation and pressure on civil society, these public attacks were not agreed with the Egyptian side, and the Egyptian leader took Macron's actions as a personal insult.

It is all OK though because Micron has said he will turn to Russia... I am sure they will welcome them with open arms... I wonder how many FREMM frigates Russia will pay for and not get delivered?

GarryB wrote:

so it's only freedom & luxury for u & ur kind. By what right can u claim them at the expense of others that u consider below u?
Ur claim to supremacy on flimsy pseudo-scientific grounds disqualifies u from being worthy of anything.

Dominance is a good test of character... the west has failed this test.

Might makes right. Thats core view of french foreign politics. Ask Gary, new zealand got a taste of it.

Something the ignorant that resort to violence to solve their problems would say...

You are not more evolved and civilised than the rest of us, you are much worse I am afraid... do you even count as human?

Might makes right does not stand on flimsy pseudo scientific grounds. Its core principle of power.

Of course... a lot of very naive New Zealanders learned never to trust France again... we sent lots of men to Europe for WWI and then again for WWII to save you from your enemies... we even sent men to Vietnam to fight alongside the Americans... we should have known better.

France may be mighty vs. NZ but it kisses Uncle Sam's boots day in & day out.

Showing their real character... slimy.

Oh really? Last time i checked France is the western country that backstabs USA again and again.

Don't know why they call you cheese eating surrender monkeys... Maybe because as the term suggests you can't be trusted even by your best ally.

What does that say about your character?

According to the publication, France’s relations with Egypt deteriorated sharply after the visit of French President Emanuel Macron to Cairo in January 2019, when Macron publicly criticized Egyptian President Marshal Abdel al-Sisi for the human rights situation and pressure on civil society, these public attacks were not agreed with the Egyptian side, and the Egyptian leader took Macron's actions as a personal insult.

It is all OK though because Micron has said he will turn to Russia... I am sure they will welcome them with open arms...  I wonder how many FREMM frigates Russia will pay for and not get delivered?

No Gary actually not. France actually surrendered only in WW II. Thats why americans use that word. Americans who never fought a real war. In WW II they played no role and in WW I as well.

That said, France fought wars you cant imagine, how could you, all your wars were against maori, who had no guns.

That said, France fought wars you cant imagine, how could you, all your wars were against maori, who had no guns.

The British could have learned quite a lot from the Maori about trench warfare, but chose to ignore it all.

They were unable to defeat the Maori and ended up signing a peace treaty with them instead and then pinched all their land... you know like civilised white people do... lie and cheat and steal.

Americans who never fought a real war. In WW II they played no role and in WW I as well.

The War of Independence, the Civil War, the War of 1812, the Indian Wars, the Mexican-American War, the Barbary Wars, WWI, II & Korean War were all real & bloody for the Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/the-gilded-age/american-west/a/indian-wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_in_World_War_I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#Allies_gain_momentum_(1943%E2%80%9344)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

France is better at starting wars than at conducting & finishing them.

Tsavo Lion wrote:

Americans who never fought a real war. In WW II they played no role and in WW I as well.

The War of Independence, the Civil War, the War of 1812, the Indian Wars, the Mexican-American War, the Barbary Wars, WWI, II & Korean War were all real & bloody for the Americans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolutionary_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/the-gilded-age/american-west/a/indian-wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_Wars

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_in_World_War_I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#Allies_gain_momentum_(1943%E2%80%9344)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

France is better at starting wars than at conducting & finishing them.

Tje wars you list are little conflicts by european standards.

Well, they include the 2 biggest wars in Europe, 2 in E. Asia/Pacific & 2 in N. America; if taken together, it's an absurd to call all 6 of them "not real".
Be more careful in ur characterizations next time! They r objectively not true & subjectively offensive.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Well, they include the 2 biggest wars in Europe, 2 in E. Asia/Pacific & 2 in N. America; if taken together, it's an absurd to call all 6 of them "not real".
Be more careful in ur characterizations next time! They r objectively  not true & subjectively offensive.

In ww 1 and 2 usa played no role.

Btw neither WW 1 nor 2 were biggest wars in europe

The 30 years war was far worse and devastating