Alexei Navalny case

Andrei Martyanov's take (one of few people for who's opinion I actually give a toss)

http://smoothiex12.blogspot.com/

But people sent me "news" and "opinions" about slight skirmishes in Russia related to "opposition" rallies in defense of Alexey Navalny. My first message to all: it was a pathetic show of a few thousand infants, including many children, who were controlled and, inevitably, dispersed. As US Police Telegram Channel wrote to Russian colleagues:



They worked, alright. Now most important--tomorrow the process starts of bestowing "awards" to all those "protesters" which will range from stern conversations, the return of school kids to parents (it already started), penalties, imprisonment and, obviously, attaching records to these Navalny's morons as troublemakers, which will ensure that these cretins will pay dearly for that by means of being unemployable in any serious and well-paying organizations.

Moreover, any, I underscore, ANY, so called internet "analysis" of some "upcoming Russian revolution", some "weakness of power" in Russia (remember, Putinvseslil)--it is all BS for hype and click-bait. Reality is such that this protest was... 5.5 times smaller than similar actions 4 years ago and, realistically speaking, it, as was expected, had more "journos" than protesters (in Russian). 20-million Moscow saw a whole 4,000 kids, while 2-million Novosibirsk saw...like, I don't know, 40-50? 600,000 Vladivostok saw about 300, with 200 of them being underage. So, do you get the picture? Can we now move on, but make a check in the box across US "diplomacy" now involving children. No surprise here, it is their MO to hide themselves behind children.

Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs already called on US Embassy to visit Ministry where American "diplomats" will be talked to for taking an active part in helping underage children get "politically active" (in Russian). That brings us to the whole Navalny's "poisoning" affair as, primarily, a desperate attempt by the combined West on PR action (aka operation of influence) against Russia. Assuming, which is a really risky assumption, that not all people in Western intelligence-"diplomatic" establishment are complete morons, it is clear that no sane person would expect actions of this type to undermine "Putin's regime". Provide some TV picture for brainwashed Western public? Sure. But that's about it. Russia's political reality is such that it requires an apocalyptic event to change her and even then, it wouldn't be towards the outcome desired by the West.

As per Alexey Navalny--everyone in Russia with IQ higher than the room temperature knows that he is an asset of Western intelligence orgs and his support base is within the statistical error, when counting votes during elections. Today's events demonstrated this perfectly. Criminal cases are being now opened as I type this (in Russian). Move along, move along--nothing to see here. Putin again "escaped" the wrath of minuscule minority of Russia's alternatively gifted teenagers and elementary school kids. Talk about "revolution"

Backman wrote:^ The reason Putin doesn't take the gloves off is because these "protests" amount to nothing but bad optics. There isnt a snowballs chance that it will amount to anything real. The liberals in the government are technocrats that have nothing to do with Navalny. I think too much is made about the supposed 5th columnist liberals in the Russian govt.

That is it. They are a joke fringe that requires doctored demonstration "photos" to puff up their importance.

Hey, even if you only ever get halfway there you can still accomplish a lot

Go for it, Johnny

Backman wrote:Anyone with an internet connection is getting bombarded with this anti Russian govt BS the last few days. Putin has far far too much patience.  There is probably ppl in Russia mad at Putin for not putting an end to this dog and pony show.  

This is a brazen Provocation by NATzO. Russia needs to add an algorithm to its Dead hand automated nuclear control system to fire all nukes towards NATzO countries in the event these NATzO thugs overthrow the government. The USSR should have done it before it collapsed. Now because of the cowardness of Soviet leadership, the USSR is GONE but NATzO is still around. At least in a nuclear annihilation they would have taken down NATzO Pigs with them

It seems Tsavo Swine is having a field day peddling more NATzO propaganda hit piece. AmeriC*NT's day of insurrection will come too. In the meantime, I will make sure that more AmeriC*NT cc info gets released.

elconquistador wrote:

Backman wrote:^ The reason Putin doesn't take the gloves off is because these "protests" amount to nothing but bad optics. There isnt a snowballs chance that it will amount to anything real. The liberals in the government are technocrats that have nothing to do with Navalny. I think too much is made about the supposed 5th columnist liberals in the Russian govt.

Right so you are saying this is a foreign intelligence provocation to prime the reaction of the domestic public+ Russian state? To see where the exact political fault lines are?

This street blocking theater is periodic in Russia. The current non-event is not something special and dangerous. As posted by PD citing a certain
quality blogger, the current demonstrations are even smaller than the ones before. The last batch were aimed a the pension reform law. Navalny
brought out his school boy brigade and it was bizarre to see some elderly and unrelated teenagers waving anti Russian placards supposedly to
protest pension reform.

Navalny still should be exiled, but his demonstrations are a stupid joke.

Washington and London and their lickspittles are hoping that a revolution will be bootstrapped from zero in Russia. They are terminally deluded:

1) There is no substrate on which a revolutionary instability will grow. Over 100 years ago there was enough discontent due to social stratification
that resulted in events like Bloody Sunday and progression to 1917. WWI actually enabled 1917.

2) The current Russian government actually does have its shit together compared to Nicholas II and his badly outdated government which simply
missed all the mass hysteria inducing trickery of its own MSM and of course foreign funded sedition.

I would prefer for Putin to start cleaning house by deporting Navalny and other 5th column organizers. They will not become dissident heroes
and will be forgotten outside of Russia. But at the same time the Russian government can't really crack down on the lemmings these maggots
get to protest and show their imbecility to Russia and the world. This is exactly the sort of bootstrapping that the "revolutionaries" want.
They have been failing for the last 20 years and will not get any success as long as Putin is around. I think it is a very nice paradox that the
focus of the two minutes' hate spew from the west, Putin, is defeating the haters by not acting the way the want.

PhSt wrote:

Backman wrote:Anyone with an internet connection is getting bombarded with this anti Russian govt BS the last few days. Putin has far far too much patience.  There is probably ppl in Russia mad at Putin for not putting an end to this dog and pony show.  

This is a brazen Provocation by NATzO. Russia needs to add an algorithm to its Dead hand automated nuclear control system to fire all nukes towards NATzO countries in the event these NATzO thugs overthrow the government. The USSR should have done it before it collapsed. Now because of the cowardness of Soviet leadership, the USSR is GONE but NATzO is still around. At least in a nuclear annihilation they would have taken down NATzO Pigs with them

I do not think the situation is so dire. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years. It is the same tricks with the same idiots. The real
story is the decline of participation in these rent-a-crowd efforts to ignite revolution in Russia. Navalny and his lemmings are fading
and even the novichoke hoax did not create a splash of new participation.

I do not want to feed trolls with what-if discussions since they use them to throw around their own plausibility BS, but if Navalny was such
a popular politician/activist why were there no spontaneous protests when the whole novichoke BS came out? We did not even have
some photos of a few people staging some action. So what you see now is theater organized with money and substantial organizational
effort. It is not spontaneous at all.

70 million "Russians" saw Navalny's BS. Yeah, more like 70 million westerners clicked on the video since YouTube pimped
it like there was no tomorrow. No, it does not matter if it was in Russian. The counter does not identify the views
and filter them by country and language.

It might say 70 million, it does not say they watched it all, or even understood it... western troll farms earning money clicking a link till they get RSI...

-flimsy argument. Most Westerners who don't understand Russian won't have the desire, much less patience to watch it -Ms didn't watch his shorter videos before; there r only a few M of Russian speakers currently outside of the RF-mostly in USA, Canada, Israel, & W. Europe. His latest detention was the best advertisement for the 2hr clip.

Oh please... that guy has a face for radio. His detention was exactly what he expected... no special rules for that dirt bag. He was told he broke the rules and what would happen when he returned and it happened.... no 3 minute story let alone a 2 hour one.

-no need to run, they could use their phone or PC at home & invite friends to do the same or come to their place.

And so what if they did... 70 million people would click on a link to watch Trump get run over by a bus... why do you think this is important?

Are you saying that Amerislime Ministry of Propaganda has no capability to blow the view numbers out of proportion for Propaganda points??

Google uses special algorithms to direct users to things they want to promote... most of the time those morons click without even reading... Youtube are just as bad.

What is propaganda value from inflating the # of views?

You seem to think it means something.

Even if only 10% of the alleged clicks indicate that the clip was viewed in its entirety,

It detects clicks only, I would suggest no one watches the credits so zero people watched that crap to the end.

In contrast, this clip about the Tatarstan elites' corruption had 5,755,235 views. So, even w/o the latest clip, his prev. videos + his poisoning & detention r inciting enough for the mass protests.

Corruption in Tartarstan is not pumped and made into a media circus like any bullshit around that cocksucker Navalny.

Up to 3K protesters in cold weather out of Estimate[d] (2018) 1,202,371 population . Wait till the air warms up!

They all have clothes for the cold weather... that will be all you are getting warm weather wont change anything.

His return & arrest is what drove people to the streets.

I would think his return alone would be enough to get people into the streets... what a cocksucker...

If Russians were afraid of -15 C, they would not be able to live in most of their homeland.- true, but normal routine isn't the same as standing in protests for hours. In Kiev, they were warming up by drinking hot tea , by fires & in tents which the Russians don't use yet.
Sod off, idiot.- the same to u, if u can't refrain from derogatory comments.

Don't forget Nulands cookies to keep them warm.... why do you expect members to be nice when you are essentially cheering US interference in Russia and a clearly blatant attempt at sedition?

What's good for the Goose, good for the gander.

I would tell the police they have full right to crack skulls. Put many of them protestors in the hospital or the morgue.

I'm OK with that. Their lives are pointless.

Actually I would think excessively high fines would be the way to go and just tell them their western supporters and Navalny himself are all very rich... they will probably pay your fine for you seeing as how you were out there supporting them.

If they do pay then that is a lot of money you can use to fund all sorts of things, and if they don't... well have them work to pay their fines...

1.What are the odds of the date of these protests and the whole stirred up Navalny circus being coincidental?

Navalny is a western show, but it is wasted in the west so now they are using their big tech companies to try to make it a problem in Russia too... I would probably block Youtube in Russia for a month and likely have a good look at Facebook and Twitter and maybe WhatsApp, which is a Google tool.

Some decent fines for those big companies for interfering in Russia... and I am talking hundreds of millions here if they want to keep operating in Russia.

Good way to pay for a few things that needed funding, but don't give them any credit for it of course because it wont be by choice.

The protests in Belarus & Ukraine were also less crowded at the beginning.

So were the protests in the US and France...

The liberals in the government are technocrats that have nothing to do with Navalny. I think too much is made about the supposed 5th columnist liberals in the Russian govt.

If you listened to the west Navalny is the mouse who roared... quite a set of pipes for a 1%er.

Of course he has the support of the richest 1% in the world, which does make him a little dangerous, but he is no real threat to anyone.

Can we now move on, but make a check in the box across US "diplomacy" now involving children. No surprise here, it is their MO to hide themselves behind children.

Hear that Greta?

Sad and pathetic...

Former CIA crook John Brennan in October 2020

Wrong on both counts... there are going to be more wars with Biden, not less.... he is in the "Fuck YEAH war party"... the republicans are just the war party.

Over the past year, public trust in Navalny has more than doubled from just

Is that trust that he is a foreign Agent?

I do not think the situation is so dire. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years. It is the same tricks with the same idiots. The real
story is the decline of participation in these rent-a-crowd efforts to ignite revolution in Russia. Navalny and his lemmings are fading
and even the novichoke hoax did not create a splash of new participation.

Well after a presidents term of hearing bullshit about supposed Russian interference, we are seeing clear and open western political interference in Russia... I look forward to seeing Putins response...

This topic is getting out of hand and is going to be locked so everyone can calm down a little.

https://ria.ru/20210406/golodovka-1604339426.html

hes on hunger strike.

A while back the troll infesting this forum was prancing around touting the 100,000,000 supposed views that Navalny's fan fiction
about "Putin's palace" got on YouCrap.   Below you can see what these numbers are worth:



Note the real time roll back of likes on a video.   This is done by the Alphabet Corporation which runs Google and YouCrap.   Anyone
who thinks that similar manipulation of views can't be done is a retard.