F-35 Lightning II: News thread

JohninMK wrote:Looks like they still have the vulnerability to lightning problem with the F-35A. I am sure they didn't mean that when they named it Lightning 11  

Good one... over-complexity and excessive technical risk in search for technological supremacy and compensation of subpar airframe, crowned by desperate weight-out efforts and recently full emergency mode to control cost and schedule overruns has some consequences, many of which we will only be learning with time, once LM has landed as many contracts as possible and the customers will not only have bought the wrong plane but will need to pay for the necessary retrofits... they are truly a model of worst practices in program management.

A test of the new kamikaze modus.

F-35 B Lightning? More like F-35 B Fireball.

A kc-130 also made an emergency landing after loosing 3 of its 4 engines.

It's a 200 million $ accident.

GarryB wrote:Fireball is good... it can't fly fast enough to be considered for Meteor...  

The principles behind the F-35's design where really grounded. The F-35's stealth principles were so ingenious, that it can make itself indistinguishable from rocks, shrubs, and random wreckage debris.

"For the F-35, selective math is the weapon of choice to try to make the costs of this struggling program disappear and give the impression that the jet is quite a bargain."

P.S. That crashed F-35 was worth 175 million bucks, iirc.

https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1319424864994951170

https://www.pogo.org/analysis/2020/10/selective-arithmetic-to-hide-the-f-35s-true-costs/

Who believes this bullshit?!?!    

The F-35 fighter jet programme’s costs were inflated after China compromised a software vendor in Lockheed Martin’s supply chain, forcing a ground-up rewrite of a potentially affected system, a policy wonk has claimed to UK Parliament.

https://twitter.com/gunner_schmulke/status/1327612978452160512

The comments are on point.

Excellent.
Why does it cost more than it should? China hacked it.
Why is the rest of the software a dysfunctional mess? Why is the plane a fat abomination? Why is the structure unsound and the oxygen system unsafe? We couldn't allow a good fighter to fall into Chinese hands!

It is stealth. That's why it's so important that turkey not use Russian radar to look for it. Because it is invisible.

thegopnik wrote:Hypoxia problems still occurring. https://www.airforcemag.com/t-6a-fleet-saw-fewer-but-more-frequent-physiological-episodes-in-fiscal-2020/

So from 2014-2020, F-35A pilots experienced 197.97 cases of oxygen starvation to the brain. In a 6 year span F-35A's caused nearly 200 cases of Hypoxia, that is just the F-35A variant, that does not include the B, C, D, I or CF versions.

The Drive is like: "The Su-57 can not defeat the F-35's!!!11!11!!!!1!1!!!"

The Su-57 does not need to defeat F-35's/F-22's, these fighters are already sucking the air out the room they'll just wait for their pilots to suffocate first!

thegopnik wrote:Hypoxia problems still occurring. https://www.airforcemag.com/t-6a-fleet-saw-fewer-but-more-frequent-physiological-episodes-in-fiscal-2020/

The best hack engineering that money can buy.

Anyone who thinks that US quality scales with its MIC prices is living on the continent of Technicolor delusions.

Oh dear! Still, as a commenter said 'its good enough for the US' Its certainly good enough for the 'gravy train'.



In a setback for the Lockheed Martin F-35 stealth fighter program, the U.S. Department of Defense has formally decreed that a decision on full-rate production of the jet is on indefinite hold. The Milestone C decision on whether or not to ramp up the manufacture of Joint Strike Fighters had been due in or before March 2021, but has now been on hold pending completion of the final phase of operational testing of the F-35.

Bloomberg was first to report news of the verdict, which was made by Ellen Lord, the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment in the Trump administration. There had been previous suggestions that a delay was at least likely, before today’s official confirmation.

While more than 600 F-35s have been manufactured so far by the Joint Strike Fighter enterprise, including 123 examples delivered in 2020, wrapping up the Initial Operational Test & Evaluation (IOT&E) is a formal requirement before the formal launch of full-rate production. Once that happens, it will signal that the Pentagon officially has confidence in the program’s maturity and that the jet is able to perform as required in all operational conditions. Ultimately, the manufacturing run of the F-35 could reach 3,200 aircraft, depending on different nations’ requirements and emerging new customers. The U.S. Air Force alone has a program of record to eventually buy 1,763 conventional takeoff and landing F-35As, 241 of which had been delivered as of last summer.

Furthermore, the production-related milestone is supposed to confirm that the F-35 meets maintenance requirements, which have fallen short in the past, and that the manufacturing effort is running efficiently. This year, the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic mean that fewer F-35s have been delivered than was originally planned.

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In January this year, a report from the Office of the Director of Operational Test & Evaluation confirmed that the F-35 still had 873 unresolved deficiencies, with new problems emerging on a regular basis.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/38507/its-official-pentagon-puts-f-35-full-rate-production-decision-on-hold

Had this been The Su-57 it would've of been plastered on every major Western yellow journalism rag.

In project management parlance there are way too many stakeholders in the F-35 program leading to both design by committee and
construction by committee. All sorts of incompetent deciders demanded all sorts of BS functionality giving us this moronic
"wunderwaffe". The KISS principle was not only rolled over by a tank, it was nuked from orbit.

kvs wrote:In project management parlance there are way too many stakeholders in the F-35 program leading to both design by committee and
construction by committee.   All sorts of incompetent deciders demanded all sorts of BS functionality giving us this moronic
"wunderwaffe".   The KISS principle was not only rolled over by a tank, it was nuked from orbit.

Wasn't it The Drive that said 2 years ago that the Su-57's was getting cancelled and said it was flying junk? Oh this is too rich!!!

The typical delusional projection and wishful thinking. Nothing that the western fake stream media puts out on Russia
has any value as information. It is all pure drivel.

The problem is that western media consumer lemmings lap this drivel up. I hear people claim that Russia has
cut off its internet from the world like China has a "great firewall". This nonsense opinion originates from the
agitprop in the western fake stream media trying to paint Russian efforts to deploy its own internet infrastructure
such as name servers as "censorship". In other words, Russian efforts to stop NATzO from cutting it off from
the world internet (since domain name registration is basically controlled by the USA as are the primary name
servers, allowing the USA and its minions to cut a country off from global internet access) are smeared as
the cut off Russia is trying to prevent.

This guilt transfer, blame the victim template is universal in Russia coverage.

The US Secretary of Defense spoke sharply about the F-35 fighter


Acting us Secretary of defense Christopher Miller during a press conference called the American fifth-generation fighter F-35 Lightning II "a piece of..." a Transcript of the official's speech was published by The Pentagon.

Miller recounted a recent conversation with a us air force Colonel, during which the Minister called the F-35 "a piece of..." and added: "we created a monster," despite the fact that the pilot considers the Lightning II "a fantastic aircraft." Miller also admitted that he "can't wait to leave this job."

Earlier, Bloomberg, citing the Pentagon's test Department, reported 871 aircraft defects, of which at least 10 are critical. Due to the modest combat qualities of the F-35, it is recommended to leave the battlefield when encountering modern fighters. Lightning II spent $ 1.5 trillion to build - the most expensive combat system in history.