Politics and Government of Russia

sepheronx wrote:Navalny isnt a former Putin man but former Yeltsin man whom is guilty of a whole lot of things.

Putin himself and other members of the Russian elite are former Yeltsin men.
Just like Navalny, they are guilty of many thing.

sepheronx wrote:To say he is guilty but not defining what he is guilty of besides being a politician and that "he probably did" is not actual evidence but simply lible.  It isnt evidence.  If found guilty by the anti corruption case, good.  But navalny should not get a praise at all.  He can fight corruption and gain popularity but if he ever becomes successful of it, expect a repeat or worst of the 90's, cause that is what he is, an early era Yeltsin.

Navalny's Anti-Corruption Foundation should get praise, though.

sepheronx wrote:Navalny isnt a former Putin man but former Yeltsin man whom is guilty of a whole lot of things. He isnt touched though as he broke the law on his house arrest and that he still freely moves around is a joke.

And as well, media hype and words but no evidence is not evidence at all. Thankfully, Russia doesnt throw in jail people for nothing.  If they did, the truckers protesting would have dissapeared by now.

To say he is guilty but not defining what he is guilty of besides being a politician and that "he probably did" is not actual evidence but simply lible.  It isnt evidence.  If found guilty by the anti corruption case, good.  But navalny should not get a praise at all.  He can fight corruption and gain popularity but if he ever becomes successful of it, expect a repeat or worst of the 90's, cause that is what he is, an early era Yeltsin.  Maybe worst.  A total sell out like Kasparov, Khodorovsky and the likes. And they are all heavily corrupt people.  All they are trying to do is remove one group so they can rule.

In US he certainly would go down. either killed in accident or jailed on rape of minor or fraud you choose it. I hope for Russia once he will become more dangerous he will.

flamming_python wrote: He's a political corpse as it stands now, now trying to make a name for himself through his latest activities; but as long as he does nothing illegal or stupid, inciting people to overthrow the government, nationalist rhetoric, unsanctioned protests, etc... there are no grounds to restrict him really. Conducting private investigations into the corruption of officials is not something that detrimental to national security.

Taking money from CIA to undermine local govt is not a matter for national security? try to do it in US and send me card for LA then.

His every move is to undermine existing system. Make no mistake he is not genuine opposition, he does it for money and only for benefit of US. US which wants Russia in parts & under "intl control"

sepheronx wrote:Interior Minister: efforts to combat the economic corruption insufficient

And here we think they are all corrupt and bad.  The interior minister on the other hand thinks much more can be done and their current methods are insufficient.  This shows that there are people in high positions actually pointing out the problems and what should be done.

as long as this is not sponsored by west it´s important to fight corruption. But IMHO only taking money you owe is the only way. Prison as a cherry on cake.

If I steal 20mlns Euro and go for this 5years to jail then I do this (assuming I am nothing more then westerner without any moral rules or better with European ones ). It is unlikely I earn 4 mln EUr per year right?

If court strip this money form me and family then kinda stupid go for 5 years and return as a beggar.

I've been waiting for this long long long long

Finally Putin did it

https://www.rt.com/politics/325964-putin-gives-russian-constitution-priority/

President Vladimir Putin has signed into law the bill allowing the Constitutional Court to overrule the decisions of international courts if such decisions contradict the principle of supremacy of the Russian Constitution.

The new act published on the government website on Tuesday reads that the Constitutional Court will look into every decision of any intergovernmental body based on an international treaty and find if it matches the Russian Constitution and the rights and freedoms guaranteed by it. Upon such consideration the Constitutional Court can allow the decision to be executed in Russia, in full or in part, or ban its execution – also in full or in part. The ban would automatically cancel any national acts allowing the execution of the unconstitutional ruling.

kvs wrote: This statement alone is certifiable insanity, but is obvious that it is just a lie.   So now the liar is lying about Chaika.   Clearly Chaika is stepping on US assets in Russia and this is a propaganda contract hit on him.   BTW, the US has a long history of succoring
criminal elements in Russia going back to the Soviet period when they were actively engaged with the mob underworld.   This is a variation on the Daesh theme.  The USA (and its minions) want to subvert Russia by any means that they can (WWIII is too
much a risk since they could get permanently glassed) and they will fund and support criminals like Khodorkovsky, the late
Berezovsky, and of course Navalny.   The whole shtick of grifter Navlany as some sort of grass roots anti-corruption activist is
nauseating.

In Polish language editions of zionist media he is called an opposition leader :d but worse in RIA I can read the same cr@p. Even if Chaika kids were running businesses why it is bad? Is this illegal? not to mention kids of politicians in US are poor or working for McDonalds on lowest rates right?

I hope this will speed up cleaning of browder´s assets now

higurashihougi wrote:I've been waiting for this long long long long

Finally Putin did it

https://www.rt.com/politics/325964-putin-gives-russian-constitution-priority/

President Vladimir Putin has signed into law the bill allowing the Constitutional Court to overrule the decisions of international courts if such decisions contradict the principle of supremacy of the Russian Constitution.

The new act published on the government website on Tuesday reads that the Constitutional Court will look into every decision of any intergovernmental body based on an international treaty and find if it matches the Russian Constitution and the rights and freedoms guaranteed by it. Upon such consideration the Constitutional Court can allow the decision to be executed in Russia, in full or in part, or ban its execution – also in full or in part. The ban would automatically cancel any national acts allowing the execution of the unconstitutional ruling.

I cannot understand why at all listen to intl bodies? is US, EU or China doing this? and what if this famous now 50blns of "compensation" is not contradict to constitution ?

At the final press-conference recently held in Moscow, Russian president Vladimir Putin answered thorny questions about global policy, domestic issues and prospect of the country’s flagship economic projects. Mil.Today’s editors have prepared a summary of his statements regarding security and the use of armed forces.

http://mil.today/2015/Society5/

flamming_python wrote:Primakov was definitely a man who was ahead of his time. He laid the groundwork for today's Russian foreign policy; promoting a multi-polar world, Russia-China-India triad, opposing NATO expansion, etc...

We don't hear much about him because his tenure as foreign minister was quite short, but it was here where he had the most impact and laid out the foundations that Lavrov would later build upon and Putin would later deem as priorities some 10 years after Primakov's tenure.

If you're talking about Soviet Union's last PM then you're right , he was the one who dreamt of Eurasian Empire , BRICS also especially RIC.

kvs wrote:

flamming_python wrote:

Dima wrote:

Rmf wrote:`primakov? that jewish guy who changed his name....

Its good to see the most powerful class of ship to enter Russian service getting named after Yevgeny Primakov. A well deserved one. 

Being Jewish is not a crime, but being Jewish and backstabbing Russia for greater love of Israel and west should not be tolerated. All such assoles need to be delt with.
One moron is that Medvedev, dont know if its his jooish part that make him such an assole or if he is a born idiot. Whatever he is the darling of the west in the Russian Govt. Combined with another assole Sarkozy with jooish background they fu$ked up Russia big time with an utterly useless multi-billion contract for Mistral.  

First of all it's Jewish, not 'jooish', learn English properly or don't speak it at all.

Secondly, Medvedev was aight. He made the decision to give Saaka a good thrashing after all - there was no hesitation or deliberation on his part. Medvedev actually had plenty of good ideas, about reform, etc... he had his own projects too - Skolkovo first among them, Superjets too, and the Mistrals being another one.. all of which were sound ideas at the time. Speaking of which, everyone likes to pour dirt on Serdyukov these days, but Serdyukov actually started most of the military reforms that have only reached fruition now - they made him very unpopular but they were ultimately necessary.
Back to Medvedev, the trouble was that he only had one term in power, and was still surrounded by Putin's men and influence and somewhat limited in implementing his own vision thus. Perhaps if he stayed on he might have become known as a major reformer like Alexander II.

Before anyone decides to disagree, note that Putin himself for most of his 1st term, followed Yeltsin's pro-Western course more or less, and only turned on the Oligarchs and Yeltsin's clan/people in 2003; one year before his first term ended. Like Medvedev, Putin didn't get too much done in his first term either, he was preoccupied stabilizing the country, building up his own circle and consolidating power.

That's not correct.  Putin's economic policy during his first term was key to Russia's recovery.  He could have left everything
in Yeltsin mode and the country would have gone down the toilet.  Like Ukraine.   He took off from where Primakov left off.
You make it sound like all he did was spend his time on "consolidating power".    The oligarchs became clear obstacles to proper
economy reform during his first term and pulled a Teddy Roosevelt on them.   Of course unlike in the case of the US President
there was a hate-smear chorus from abroad to demonize him.   Uncle Scam need the corrupt oligarchs to exert influence over
Russia and Putin shut that racket down.  Unforgivable.  

+1
Putin read the riot act to the oligarchs - Pay your taxes, obey the law, run your (stolen) businesses enterprises legally, and keep out of politics (ie no attempts to convert ill-gotten into political power by purchasing a cabal of subordinate politicans) and you can keep what you stole in the 90s. Cross me and I will break you...

A smart oligarch like Abramovich took the deal, kept his wealth, and even had a stint at a Governership. The stupid ones like Berezovsky and Khordorkosky thought they were bigger than the Federal government and refused to heed the warnings, so a public lesson was made of these despicable thieves and today they are (a) dead by his own hand (b) a much reduced shadow of his former self.

Putin and his team deserve congratulations for their success in taming the rabid excesses of Russias (Jewish) oligarchs.

Considering that jews are such a minority among all religious groups a shit load of them are billionares in a country they never represent and so many jewish presidents, advisors, prime ministers just look at ukraine run by jews, executed by nazis.

https://www.darkmoon.me/2014/one-quarter-wealthiest-russians-jewish/
48 out of 200 billionaires in russia are jewish oligarchs. Not counted in are millionaires.

Jewish oligarchs are ranked fucking 11% among all billioniares in the world that is far to high for such a minority. And don't come to me that they earned their money. No billionaire in their live has worked a single day to earn a single penny. It is stolen, that is the only possibility how you can get rich noway around corruption, murder, sceams and criminal cartels to get rich.

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/04/forbes-jewish-billionaires

From the communists

https://www.rt.com/politics/328940-communist-mp-wants-theft-in/

Communist MP wants theft in military forces considered high treason

Russian Communist Party MP Valery Rashkin told reporters that corruption in the military forces should be punished as high treason and that the former Defense Ministry official sentenced to almost eight years’ prison for bribery “got off lightly.”

“In essence, such civil servants steal from soldiers and officers who are responsible for our motherland’s safety, for the undisturbed sleep of our citizens. Such crimes should be equated to high treason,” Rashkin wrote in a statement published on the party’s website.

The comment came soon after a district court in Moscow convicted the former deputy director of Defense Ministry’s Property Department, Aleksandr Gorshkolepov, of large-scale bribery and sentenced him to seven years and eight months in a penal colony.

The ex-official was also ordered to pay a fine of 310 million rubles (over US$4 million). The convict earlier entered a plea deal with the court and personally told investigators about multi-million bribes he received from several businessmen and heads of state defense enterprises.

In mid-2014, the Russian Communist Party proposed the introduction of a ‘court of honor’ that would adjudicate on the ethical side of officials’ behavior, and possibly recommend anti-corruption courses as punishment.

The communists are quite active recently.

https://www.rt.com/politics/331858-communists-conceive-popular-patriotic-coalition/

Communists plan 'popular patriotic coalition' to counter United Russia at future polls

The leader of the Russian Communist Party has told reporters that they intend to unite all “patriotic forces” under the program of “leftist-centrist turn” to counter the pro-business anti-crisis initiatives of the ruling United Russia party.

“We think that the moment of truth has arrived, it is very important that the party of power starts a direct dialogue with popular patriotic forces, that debates are held live on television in which they demonstrate two programs – the one of the ruling party and our program, the program of the popular patriotic forces,” Communist leader Gennadiy Zyuganov told reporters Tuesday. “The elections are exceptionally important, but they must be the competition between teams and programs, not the primaries game.”

He also appealed to the authority of President Vladimir Putin, who has urged his allies to do everything to ensure that the parliamentary elections are honest and that people trust their results.

sepheronx wrote:Their idiots anyway. They may unite some parties and would be funny if they united with paranas party who claims to be patriots that all they are doing is breaking laws and getting us money and being caught doing so.  That would ruin the Communist party.  I rather see LBTR or whatever they re called in power than the communists.

I don't think so. Considering the activies of Communists and other big 2 (SP, LDPR), I believe they are the real "moderate oppositions" in Russia. The roles of these "moderate oppositions" are keeping an eye on Putin's party and attracting the dissidents so that dissidents will not come to Nemtsov or Navalny.

Honestly I still have faith in the Communist parties in the world, well, if you look at my avatar you can see why.

higurashihougi wrote:

sepheronx wrote:Their idiots anyway. They may unite some parties and would be funny if they united with paranas party who claims to be patriots that all they are doing is breaking laws and getting us money and being caught doing so.  That would ruin the Communist party.  I rather see LBTR or whatever they re called in power than the communists.

I don't think so. Considering the activies of Communists and other big 2 (SP, LDPR), I believe they are the real "moderate oppositions" in Russia. The roles of these "moderate oppositions" are keeping an eye on Putin's party and attracting the dissidents so that dissidents will not come to Nemtsov or Navalny.

Honestly I still have faith in the Communist parties in the world, well, if you look at my avatar you can see why.

I do not as Polish commies let Us hostile take over of my country! Maybe normal ones return some day after EU goes to hell finally

But yes I agree that Russia needs more then 1 party with different pro-Russian programmes. I did not mean euro-sc@m or us paid henchmen like navalny.

PVO party is pro russian with biggest and most known Nikolai Starikow.

Look at this a real traitor show up , seeking to provoke a coup in Russia ,he wants to sack the legitimate government in Russia. the leader of "fair Russia" party.



https://www.rt.com/politics/331998-fair-russia-kicks-off-election/


The reason he give for removing from power the prime minister is because of 2 laws ,
that the government created to help Russia balance its budget. I really hate people like
that , even though is legal what he is doing ,to pressure a government to resign ,the timing
he is asking it ,could not be more dangerous. And look what the bastard told.. that ...
"Once medvedev sacked things with the economy in Russia will start to improve. " so right
there the traitor spreading lies ,as if Medvedev or Russia dominating political party was responsible for the sanctions on Russia or the oil prices. He is more dangerous that Kadyrov
and if he continues trying to sabotage Russia gov ,seeking to disband it ,in times that Russia
could be withing hours or days from a major war not only with Turkey but also USA.. In times like this that idiot if continues trying to disband the unity in Russia should be arrested and put in jail for treason.

Im not a fan of medvedev ,neither im against him.. but what the Fair Russia party is doing is
really dangerous. And if violence and people die consequences of his call for a nation wide
protest ,he should be shot in the head. Not only he is threatening the life of the soldiers in Syria, but also the war in Ukraine to restart. when civil wars begin is when the highest probability foreign nations will take advantaged of the internal problems in that nation to
do any aggression or attack Russian interest knowing they busy with a civil war.

Can anyone provide me any more information about that Rat?  does he have done
suspicious things before ? or accused of being a spy before or an undercover fith column?
or be paid by the west? or indeed he is patriotic and his problem is more of being an stupid and a moron that do not see the extremely dangerous ,close to suicide games he is playing.

it looks well planned ,because if Medvedev is sacked and United Russia lose power ,then there will be no one else from United Russia that could get the mayority of society united. Since Putin cannot run again for president if not mistaken. If he was genuinely interested in people ,he will not mention in any way sacking the Government from power. Not even in America ,you heard of that ,of plans done to sack the entire Government ,from someone in the parliament. At best what happened there is the demands to impeach Obama IF he goes to a war without asking congress. But in Russia is not IF.. but already they planning to raise support to sack the Government and i really think that man is really dangerous and any Russian citizen killed consequence of his proposed rallies ,their death should be made 100% responsible to him for
seeking to disband Russia government. This is a law that should exist in Russia.. that anyone who leads nation wide protest that indirectly promote violence (like removing a legitimate government from power is ,since half of the country will oppose it) that is dividing the society
in two groups. then those people who lead major division in the society by seeking to remove a Government from power, for no legitimate reason , then those leaders should be held accounted
for any people killed or money lost by the government in security and any damage to Russian infrastructure.