Politics and Government of Russia

flamming_python wrote:
My thoughts exactly

Russia is adopting the system of the West, a toothless president, a toothless parliament, and the grey cardinals, intelligence and other establishment holding levers of pressure if not reigns.

GunshipDemocracy wrote:

Firebird wrote:So I wonder if members here think that Mishustin is a future head of Russia after Putin? Or if it will be others instead?

this is a good question. Not sure if Dyumin (Oreskhin I do not  consider too much of an economy expert) but surely nobody from Vth column (living 25 years in Russia and no foreign citizenship or stay abroad in any form       )

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:

Firebird wrote:
So I wonder if members here think that Mishustin is a future head of Russia after Putin? Or if it will be others instead?

It is just my personal opinion,  but I believe that Mishustin is just the competent person needed to lead the economic reforms and somebody else will succeed Putin. I believe that Putin successor will have most probably also military or FSB or state security background, in addition to strong political credentials.

ditto, perhps Dyumin can have place here? Mishustin  looks like pretty effective manager, not politician by any way.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
he could be. Dyumin had anyway at least another year and half in his term as Governor of Tula until end of 2021. We will see what happens after that. Maybe he could stay for one year or so as deputy first minister or deputy foreign minister to gain experience in other areas before replacing the prime minister sometimes in 2023, and putin could leave a few months earlier than the actual end of his mandate in order to put him as his successor and giving him more chances during the elections.

Ot maybe dyumin will just serve as a competent sidekick and the proposed Putin replacement will come as a complete surprise.

Kudrin did not receive offers to join the new government

PapaDragon wrote:

flamming_python wrote:......
My thoughts exactly

Russia is adopting the system of the West, a toothless president, a toothless parliament, and the grey cardinals, intelligence and other establishment holding levers of pressure if not reigns.

Smart move, it has proven to be most efficient approach

Russia has been using Reagan's playbook to get herself back on her feet and into decent shape so building deep state system is next logical step

Stick with what works

flamming_python wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

flamming_python wrote:......
My thoughts exactly

Russia is adopting the system of the West, a toothless president, a toothless parliament, and the grey cardinals, intelligence and other establishment holding levers of pressure if not reigns.

Smart move, it has proven to be most efficient approach

Russia has been using Reagan's playbook to get herself back on her feet and into decent shape so building deep state system is next logical step

Stick with what works

The problem is that such systems will stagnate and be resistant to change

You should read the neocons favorite philosopher Leo Strauss. The US Deep State is an operational bureaucracy that does the bidding of the real powers that be. Ultimate control rests with the creators of the global financial system.

Like the Soviet Poliburou, and today's American deep state - they're stuck on autopilot

If Yeltsin and the Oligarchs had succeeded in building up such a system, Putin would have remained the figure he had been from 2000-2002, and never would have been able to shake up the system and get rid of the corrupt old guard.

flamming_python wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:

flamming_python wrote:......
My thoughts exactly

Russia is adopting the system of the West, a toothless president, a toothless parliament, and the grey cardinals, intelligence and other establishment holding levers of pressure if not reigns.

Smart move, it has proven to be most efficient approach

Russia has been using Reagan's playbook to get herself back on her feet and into decent shape so building deep state system is next logical step

Stick with what works

The problem is that such systems will stagnate and be resistant to change

Like the Soviet Poliburou, and today's American deep state - they're stuck on autopilot

If Yeltsin and the Oligarchs had succeeded in building up such a system, Putin would have remained the figure he had been from 2000-2002, and never would have been able to shake up the system and get rid of the corrupt old guard.

Mishustin's cabinet received an economic ideologist from the Kremlin

Will the government abandon the “no money” thesis to boost GDP growth
Rearrangements in the financial and economic bloc of the government indicate a change in priorities - the theme of controlling budget spending gives way to stimulating GDP growth. But experts do not advise waiting from the cabinet for a sharp increase in costs


The financial and economic bloc in the new government of Mikhail Mishustin has undergone radical changes, and the most important of them is the appointment of Andrei Belousov, First Deputy Prime Minister, who has served as president’s assistant for economics for more than six years. Former First Deputy Prime Minister Anton Siluanov agreed to a formal demotion, retaining the post of Minister of Finance.

Belousov is a professional economist, who is usually referred to as conductors, that is, to supporters of active state intervention in the economy. Belousov’s figure is associated with the idea of ​​boosting national projects and their active state financing, says Dmitry Dolgin, chief economist at ING for Russia and the CIS. “Probably, the intensity of spending underexplored budget expenditures that have accumulated in the region of 1% of GDP, and the implementation of national projects will accelerate,” he suggested.

In 2019, the federal budget was not implemented by 5.8%, or more than 1.1 trillion rubles, which was the maximum deviation from the planned amount of expenditures since 2007. Including national projects did not have time to spend about 150 billion rubles. The new prime minister has already said that the work on national projects will be “forced” - Belousov’s task will be to prevent the Ministry of Finance from blocking the allocation of funds for these purposes (something that could be easily done when the positions of the Minister of Finance and the First Deputy Prime Minister were combined Siluanov), says Tom Adced, Macro Advisory Research Director for Moscow.

The previous government was associated with anti-crisis policies, fiscal consolidation, the restoration of reserves and increased taxes amid falling oil prices and sanctions, as well as the unpopular pension reform that affected its ratings, Renaissance Capital notes. The new cabinet will, on the contrary, be associated with supporting economic growth, implementing national projects and social initiatives from a recent message from President Vladimir Putin, an investment bank writes in a review.


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According to various estimates, the implementation of the announced measures will require an additional 300 billion to 500 billion rubles. only in 2020. Petr Sidorov, an economist at Deutsche Bank, agrees that under the new government, the risk of such a significant under-utilization of budget funds as in 2019 will decrease, and Renaissance Capital sees the prospects of "limited budget incentives."

It will probably not be necessary to change the design of the budget rule (sets the marginal cost of the budget, excess oil revenues more than $ 42.4 per barrel are allocated to reserves) in order to finance the president’s costly social initiatives at a level of about 0.5% of GDP per year - I have already spoken about this Siluanov. The reserves are planned to be found in a spending closer to 100% of the budgeted appropriations and the redistribution of expenses from lower priority to social. In addition, you can spend more money from the National Wealth Fund (NWF) within the limits allowed by law (NWF investments are not formally considered as expenses, and therefore are not bound by the budget rule. - RBC ), says Oleg Shibanov, NES professor of finance.

Tsavo Lion wrote:
Now the US is getting ready to directly confront Russia along its perimeter. But they will fail like Turkey, Sweden, England, Poland, France, & Germany before them.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:
he could be. Dyumin had anyway at least another year and half in his term as Governor of Tula until end of 2021. We will see what happens after that. Maybe he could stay for one year or so as deputy first minister or deputy foreign minister to gain experience in other areas before replacing the prime minister sometimes in 2023, and putin could leave a few months earlier than the actual end of his mandate in order to put him as his successor and giving him more chances during the elections.

Ot maybe dyumin will just serve as a competent sidekick and the proposed Putin replacement will come as a complete surprise.

PhSt wrote:
Whatever Putin is planning to do, he needs to come up with a solid plan to create a government system in Russia that is immune to Western interference and sabotage. Putin cannot live forever to be around to safeguard Russia's stability. Russia needs to develop its own powerful deep state that will work to serve only Russia's interest and no one else.

But it's not up to him to decide whether such a policy is suitable forever for Russia. He's not qualified to make such a decision for 150 million people. No-one is.

miketheterrible wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/493482-russia-vote-constitution-preliminary-results/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Russians voted, majority in favor (over 70%).  So it's good.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:https://www.rt.com/russia/493482-russia-vote-constitution-preliminary-results/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Russians voted, majority in favor (over 70%).  So it's good.

Should of included the nationalization of the Central Bank, whether by buying up financial assets or by force (my preferable method).