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Hole- Posts : 11115
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par far- Posts : 3496
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"Despite small gains for the far right & Navalny, Russia’s weekend elections don’t suggest any major political change is imminent."
Who are the idiots that voted for them.
https://www.rt.com/russia/500748-navalny-poisoning-saga-russia-elections/
Who are the idiots that voted for them.
https://www.rt.com/russia/500748-navalny-poisoning-saga-russia-elections/
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Well, they got city council seats in Novosibirsk and Tomsk. Apparently where Nvalany put heavy emphasis on. Even then it's barely a gain since they put all efforts there, and all they get is some city seats.
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miketheterrible wrote:Well, they got city council seats in Novosibirsk and Tomsk. Apparently where Nvalany put heavy emphasis on. Even then it's barely a gain since they put all efforts there, and all they get is some city seats.
I hope it stays that way. But voters are being stupid by giving this 5th column any chance at all. Too many in Russia still live under
the distorted reality of "it's better in the west" and "Russia is doomed". I would ban all foreign financed political movements and parties
in Russia. If this is "oppression" to some idiots, then those idiots can bugger on off to their NATzO promised land.
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kvs wrote:miketheterrible wrote:Well, they got city council seats in Novosibirsk and Tomsk. Apparently where Nvalany put heavy emphasis on. Even then it's barely a gain since they put all efforts there, and all they get is some city seats.
I hope it stays that way. But voters are being stupid by giving this 5th column any chance at all. Too many in Russia still live under
the distorted reality of "it's better in the west" and "Russia is doomed". I would ban all foreign financed political movements and parties
in Russia. If this is "oppression" to some idiots, then those idiots can bugger on off to their NATzO promised land.
Is this dangerous?
Hopefully FSB and other intelligence agencies are active in the cities they got votes in.
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Is it dangerous? Yes. Every cancer starts with a few mutated cells. The paradox is the people who benefited most in modern Russia - young educated Yuppies are the most susceptible to Western propaganda. The poorer and more rural the people the more pro-Putin and generally pro-Russia they are. You see a similarly situation in America with Trump absent of racial differences. Part of this is explained by the "educated" component - being subject to indoctrination by the Russian intelligentsia (perhaps the historically most pathologically anti-Russian element of society) leads to this outcome in many cases. Secondly is the economic component - being relatively wealthy makes people want more not less and they see Putin (falsely) as an impediment to greater wealth and prosperity. Why do they as IT specialists in Novosibirsk make less than IT specialists in Poland or even Germany? Why is must be Putin of course!
Political control of major cities has way more weight than people think. Once again look at America - the synthetic riots in Seattle, Portland, and Minneapolis are tolerated and enabled by local and state politicians. No one really cares what happens out in the boonies.
Political control of major cities has way more weight than people think. Once again look at America - the synthetic riots in Seattle, Portland, and Minneapolis are tolerated and enabled by local and state politicians. No one really cares what happens out in the boonies.
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you guys are far from smart compared to Russia's intelligence agencies. Getting scared of these nobodies is pointless. They always get some kind of token position. In the 90's and early 2000's Navalny's people ended up with 10% of the votes and more positions. Now days, they get a token position. United Russia still stands firm.
Just read the damn articles rather than the click bait shit Bryan MacDonald from RT always posts.
Just read the damn articles rather than the click bait shit Bryan MacDonald from RT always posts.
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miketheterrible wrote:you guys are far from smart compared to Russia's intelligence agencies. Getting scared of these nobodies is pointless. They always get some kind of token position. In the 90's and early 2000's Navalny's people ended up with 10% of the votes and more positions. Now days, they get a token position. United Russia still stands firm.
Just read the damn articles rather than the click bait shit Bryan MacDonald from RT always posts.
I'm sure people in the USSR in 1980 felt the same way.
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calripson wrote:miketheterrible wrote:you guys are far from smart compared to Russia's intelligence agencies. Getting scared of these nobodies is pointless. They always get some kind of token position. In the 90's and early 2000's Navalny's people ended up with 10% of the votes and more positions. Now days, they get a token position. United Russia still stands firm.
Just read the damn articles rather than the click bait shit Bryan MacDonald from RT always posts.
I'm sure people in the USSR in 1980 felt the same way.
No, because you are comparing apples to oranges.
You had a combination of shit infestation from the Baltic nations, then you had the issue of the central government infighting. There was no such thing as opposition before it was created. Now Russians are fully aware of the events that happened.
Seriously, one has to be mentally retarded to think that a seat or two in a city parliament = inevitable overthrow of the government and a liberal opposition.
Want to know the real secret? Apparently Communist party was barred from competing in some elections due to clerical errors on their end but still complained of not being able to partake in elections. Some believe is because they had a much bigger hand. Liberals on the other hand had no such issues. And all they got was some seats in two cities.
BTW, this is about same thing almost every year. Around 2011 is when Navalny and Co had far more support. More upwards to 8 - 10%. Did you know that one of their buddies was also Mayor of one of Russia's most influential city - Yaketerinburg? Yeah, Royzman. And guess what? He was ousted eventually cause he sucked bad.
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but given the topic and western diversity quotas being government policy it seems to fit.
Russia does not follow the PC propaganda posturing of promoting minorities and women in its armed forces through quotas.
Anyone who is a citizen of Russia of any flavour can join the forces if they pass the training. In other words, Russia gives
people equal opportunities and recognizes merit. This is the way it should be. Diversity quotas are a stupid cheat which
enables designated minority candidates to get jobs without actually qualifying for them. It is a moronic way to fight system
discrimination since it is pure discrimination itself. Systemic discrimination needs to be fought directly.
The current state of Russian employment across many fields reflects the legacy of the USSR. The USSR did not have any
PC style quotas but everyone could get the job they wanted if they could pass the education/training. So ethnic minorities
and women were always well represented in various jobs. There was no systemic discrimination. Russia is carrying on this
"tradition".
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The irony is that quotas essentially mean you get the job because of something other than your ability to do the job... who cares if it is mowing lawns, but when it is brain surgeon or designing space ships... not having someone who is the best because they happened to be white and male in this case, is not a good way forward.
You know the ironic thing is that if the best person, the most capable person is a blind black woman who happens to be gay, she is not going to get any respect because anyone that looks at her and knows their policy on new employees will assume she got the job because she fits the profile of a victim abused by society... they will assume she is the token woman or the token black person or the token lesbian, or the token blind person... with all those how could they not hire her... so she must be incompetent.
Must really piss her off though, being blind just assuming everyone is directing questions at everyone else because she couldn't possibly be the one in charge... the one who knows that is happening... the smart one...
They can talk about being PC and helping minorities but I bet there are a few westerners... you know people from the core of maturity an civilisation and technological superiority and morality and common sense that makes them natural leaders of the world, that are thinking there can be no such person that is all those things and good at their job and smart as well...
Discounting people as inferior just based on their colour or religion or gender or sexual orientation or even age, or their ability to see makes you blinder than the physically blind. I know I often discount the views of the young... thinking... hoping they will understand things better as they get older... but I never said I was perfect either...
Hiring people ahead of other people because of their colour or other factors does the opposite of what they are hoping... they are hoping people who have a low opinion will treat them with more respect when they are their boss... but if they are incompetent... who respects an openly incompetent boss who you now know got the job because they are a particular skin colour or because daddy owns the company... of course complaining that minorities are getting a helping hand is no worse than complaining because white people got the nod, or relations got the job ahead of people much better qualified.
Replacing one broken system with a system intentionally skewed to try to repair any damage ignores that the real damage is putting incompetent people in positions of power... whether before because they were white and now because they are not. It is carefully applying a small plaster to a tiny scratch as you fall from the 50th floor of a very large building to land on concrete...
What we need is the person best suited to the job that gets it with colour or religion or race or gender being eliminated from the criteria.... except you can't even do that really, because the new person has to fit in to the group you already have working there... what if they don't fit in? What if they cause problems? Fire everyone else and let them stay?
Hopefully Russia does not blindly follow the west and does what is right for Russians rather than blinding chasing the Lemming in front of them over the cliff.
You know the ironic thing is that if the best person, the most capable person is a blind black woman who happens to be gay, she is not going to get any respect because anyone that looks at her and knows their policy on new employees will assume she got the job because she fits the profile of a victim abused by society... they will assume she is the token woman or the token black person or the token lesbian, or the token blind person... with all those how could they not hire her... so she must be incompetent.
Must really piss her off though, being blind just assuming everyone is directing questions at everyone else because she couldn't possibly be the one in charge... the one who knows that is happening... the smart one...
They can talk about being PC and helping minorities but I bet there are a few westerners... you know people from the core of maturity an civilisation and technological superiority and morality and common sense that makes them natural leaders of the world, that are thinking there can be no such person that is all those things and good at their job and smart as well...
Discounting people as inferior just based on their colour or religion or gender or sexual orientation or even age, or their ability to see makes you blinder than the physically blind. I know I often discount the views of the young... thinking... hoping they will understand things better as they get older... but I never said I was perfect either...
Hiring people ahead of other people because of their colour or other factors does the opposite of what they are hoping... they are hoping people who have a low opinion will treat them with more respect when they are their boss... but if they are incompetent... who respects an openly incompetent boss who you now know got the job because they are a particular skin colour or because daddy owns the company... of course complaining that minorities are getting a helping hand is no worse than complaining because white people got the nod, or relations got the job ahead of people much better qualified.
Replacing one broken system with a system intentionally skewed to try to repair any damage ignores that the real damage is putting incompetent people in positions of power... whether before because they were white and now because they are not. It is carefully applying a small plaster to a tiny scratch as you fall from the 50th floor of a very large building to land on concrete...
What we need is the person best suited to the job that gets it with colour or religion or race or gender being eliminated from the criteria.... except you can't even do that really, because the new person has to fit in to the group you already have working there... what if they don't fit in? What if they cause problems? Fire everyone else and let them stay?
Hopefully Russia does not blindly follow the west and does what is right for Russians rather than blinding chasing the Lemming in front of them over the cliff.
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Putin says Russia must remain a strong presidential republic
Putin thanked the Federation Council members for their participation in preparation of the amendments to the basic law
MOSCOW, September 23. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin is certain that the amendments to the Constitution must cement the basic foundations of national development for decades to come, and preserve Russia as a strong presidential republic, he said during the meeting with the senators Wednesday.
The president thanked the Federation Council members for their participation in preparation of the amendments to the basic law.
"The substance, the point of the constitutional innovations is to cement the basic foundations of sustainable development of the nation for decades to come," Putin underscored.
He named "historic succession, moral values, reliable social guarantees, increased role of the civil society, strengthening and perfection of balance and equilibrium between all branches of power while preserving Russia as a strong presidential republic" among those foundations.
"For example, the authority of both chambers of the parliament is significantly extended; the role of the State Duma in appointment of the government and the role of the Federation Council in appointment of security agencies heads, Prosecutor General, his deputies and regional prosecutors is significantly increased," Putin elaborated. In his opinion, those are "steps in a right direction."
"The amendments to the constitution must ensure unconditional compliance with law and legal order, protection of the people’s interest, business and other freedoms," the head of state concluded.
https://tass.com/politics/1204087
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And not a moment too soon
Russia approves bill allowing national law to trump international treaties
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-russia-politics-law/russia-approves-bill-allowing-national-law-to-trump-international-treaties-idUKKBN27D19J?il=0
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The bill’s approval is likely to spark concern among rights advocates in Russia. Every year hundreds of Russians appeal to the European Court of Human Rights seeking justice that they say they have been denied at home.
Sure, anything you claim, asswipes. The ECHR is a corrupt outfit that is utterly biased against Russia. So all sorts of crooks
can go before it to launder their image and pose as refugees in the west.
The ECHR is infiltrated by Sorosites:
https://eclj.org/geopolitics/echr/emprise-de-soros-sur-la-cour-europeenne-des-droits-de-lhomme--la-cedh-persiste-et-signe-
This is why Russian domestic law must trump any foreign outfit. Those foreign outfits have no obligation to be fair to Russia
and Russians. And it shows.
As for Reuters and its claims, repeating lies does not make them true.
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The Duma speaker gave the head of the Ministry of Finance a dressing down in one of the sessions where he was present.
The Finance Ministry has been opposing basically every initiative of both the Russian president and the Duma but claims
credit for any economic growth. A specific case is agriculture which has been growing in leaps and bounds thanks to
policy decisions of Putin and the legislators but which has been opposed at every stage by the Finance Ministry headed
by Siluanov.
In the dressing down, the speaker highlighted all of these facts and stated the obvious: that Siulanov and his liberast
clown show cannot be above the president of Russia and the Duma. He is an underling and that is true in the precious
west as well. In Canada no Minister of Finance dictates anything to the Prime Minister. I have never heard of the
Canadian Ministry of Finance brazenly opposing the ruling party's initiatives. In fact, the head of government in
Canada appoints both the head and deputy of every Ministry. The situation in Russia is bizarre.
The issue I have with the speaker's statements is that he is talking about compromise and dialogue. This is nonsense,
the Ministry of Finance is not some ethnic group or other country. They are hirelings who can be fired at the leisure
of both the president and the Duma. Putin and his government need to sort this shit out ASAP.
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After the bill passing on domestic law superceding foreign law, the finance ministry will probably be next to be reshuffled and or changed.
A while ago the finance ministry and ministry of industry and trade were to be combined into one
But later it was denied. Maybe because of this. Ministry of industry and trade made all the good decisions for Russia's growth and is the balance against the liberal group
But Putin must be also part of it cause how else has it not undergone change yet?
A while ago the finance ministry and ministry of industry and trade were to be combined into one
But later it was denied. Maybe because of this. Ministry of industry and trade made all the good decisions for Russia's growth and is the balance against the liberal group
But Putin must be also part of it cause how else has it not undergone change yet?
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miketheterrible wrote:After the bill passing on domestic law superceding foreign law, the finance ministry will probably be next to be reshuffled and or changed.
A while ago the finance ministry and ministry of industry and trade were to be combined into one
But later it was denied. Maybe because of this. Ministry of industry and trade made all the good decisions for Russia's growth and is the balance against the liberal group
But Putin must be also part of it cause how else has it not undergone change yet?
According to the video the Ministry of Finance gained exceptional standing during the 1990s thanks to Russian dependence on
western loans. The Ministry of Finance also serves the agenda of the banks and the oligarchs. So Putin, who is not any
sort of tyrant, has to yield to this power block. But the winds of change are blowing and the Ministry of Finance will most
likely be purged.
Expect shrieks and howls from the NATzO fake stream media and their fellow travelers in Russia. This is the last bastion of
western control of Russia.
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kvs wrote:miketheterrible wrote:After the bill passing on domestic law superceding foreign law, the finance ministry will probably be next to be reshuffled and or changed.
A while ago the finance ministry and ministry of industry and trade were to be combined into one
But later it was denied. Maybe because of this. Ministry of industry and trade made all the good decisions for Russia's growth and is the balance against the liberal group
But Putin must be also part of it cause how else has it not undergone change yet?
According to the video the Ministry of Finance gained exceptional standing during the 1990s thanks to Russian dependence on
western loans. The Ministry of Finance also serves the agenda of the banks and the oligarchs. So Putin, who is not any
sort of tyrant, has to yield to this power block. But the winds of change are blowing and the Ministry of Finance will most
likely be purged.
Expect shrieks and howls from the NATzO fake stream media and their fellow travelers in Russia. This is the last bastion of
western control of Russia.
I imagine all the shrieks from the 5th column along with NATO countries only end up getting laughter in the duma halls at this point.
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Mishustin's government is cleaning house. A substantial number of key post holders have been terminated including
the head of the Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS). He was a liberast and member of the Yabloko Party. Now the
action against the attempt by Russian Railways to buy computers based on the Elbrus CPU makes sense. This
maggot was pure 5th column scum.
There is a purge happening of the compromised liberastoids that were still in charge thanks to their services to
oligarchs. For example, the FAS was acting in a way that did not prevent price fixing on Russian energy markets
with all sorts of anti-competitive schemes. This resulted in a downloading of excess costs on both small businesses
and consumers.
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Russian parliament approves primacy of Constitution in over 100 laws
MOSCOW, November 18. /TASS/. The Russian State Duma (lower house of parliament) has approved the third reading of the bill stipulating primacy of the Russian Constitution over international agreements and decisions of intergovernmental bodies.
Changes have been made to over 110 Russian laws. The new norm stipulates that the Russian law prevails if the provisions of international agreements violate the Russian Constitution.
The Russian Constitutional Court has been tasked with estimating whether an international agreement or decision running counter to the Russian Constitution should be executed. The new laws will enter into force on the day of their official publication.
Russian President Vladimir Putin put forward the draft bills to the Russian State Duma on October 14. Article 79 of the Russian Constitution rules that the decisions of international bodies that violate the Russian Constitution cannot be adhered to in Russia.
Earlier, Russian State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said that the president’s initiative would help protect the rights and interests of citizens, as well as Russian sovereignty, and that they will "improve the quality of government." He pointed out that a number of Western states make attempts to stall Russia’s development, namely using "international law instruments" with political aims.
MOSCOW, November 18. /TASS/. The Russian State Duma (lower house of parliament) has approved the third reading of the bill stipulating primacy of the Russian Constitution over international agreements and decisions of intergovernmental bodies.
Changes have been made to over 110 Russian laws. The new norm stipulates that the Russian law prevails if the provisions of international agreements violate the Russian Constitution.
The Russian Constitutional Court has been tasked with estimating whether an international agreement or decision running counter to the Russian Constitution should be executed. The new laws will enter into force on the day of their official publication.
Russian President Vladimir Putin put forward the draft bills to the Russian State Duma on October 14. Article 79 of the Russian Constitution rules that the decisions of international bodies that violate the Russian Constitution cannot be adhered to in Russia.
Earlier, Russian State Duma Speaker Vyacheslav Volodin said that the president’s initiative would help protect the rights and interests of citizens, as well as Russian sovereignty, and that they will "improve the quality of government." He pointed out that a number of Western states make attempts to stall Russia’s development, namely using "international law instruments" with political aims.
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Russian lawmakers mull new political protest rules: Foreign funding to be banned & activists blocked from posing as journalists
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Slowdown for deplatforming Russian media? Moscow to punish US tech giants for censorship
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Slowdown for deplatforming Russian media? Moscow to punish US tech giants for censorship
It's a start. I would jack up the fines to be in the millions of dollars. These fat cats won't feel a $40,000 fine.
Russian lawmakers seem to have some issue in this regard. Fines in Russia are a joke. So in the case of libel and slander
the civil law fines are a few thousand rubles. We saw with Pussy Riot how outright hooliganism and trespassing were
slapped with $17 fines.
Putin needs to kick the asses of these idiots via appeals to the public, which will put a nice flame under their asses.
Big fines shut the perps up without having to send them to jail. That is what soft power looks like.
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kvs wrote:magnumcromagnon wrote:Slowdown for deplatforming Russian media? Moscow to punish US tech giants for censorship
It's a start. I would jack up the fines to be in the millions of dollars. These fat cats won't feel a $40,000 fine.
Russian lawmakers seem to have some issue in this regard. Fines in Russia are a joke. So in the case of libel and slander
the civil law fines are a few thousand rubles. We saw with Pussy Riot how outright hooliganism and trespassing were
slapped with $17 fines.
Putin needs to kick the asses of these idiots via appeals to the public, which will put a nice flame under their asses.
Big fines shut the perps up without having to send them to jail. That is what soft power looks like.
The things is the censorship isn't just blatant, it's software algorithmic. Meaning their censorship abuse could happen several thousand times per day, equaling in tens of millions of USD in fines.
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magnumcromagnon wrote:Slowdown for deplatforming Russian media? Moscow to punish US tech giants for censorship
It's about time Russia takes action to address this issue. Russia needs to hit these NATO propaganda platforms with the strongest response possible.
Its not that hard to notice that there is definitely something Wrong when a local media channel in Russia has more subscribers than RT
However, it would be 1000x much better if Russia sets up a competitor to YouTube.
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