The Situation in the Ukraine. #29

Finty wrote:

Backman wrote:

Arrow wrote:It is obvious that there will be no war in Donbas.

And nobody knows what the CIA has in mind. They could have a provocation lined up and ready to go. Like MH-17

Bold claim, got any proof? Be careful and don't drink the koolaid, the Russian government are full of shit just like pretty much every other government.

MH-17 is proof that the west is full of shit. So it is up to you clowns to prove your claims when it comes to Russia.
Not the other way around.

kvs wrote:

Finty wrote:

Backman wrote:

Arrow wrote:It is obvious that there will be no war in Donbas.

And nobody knows what the CIA has in mind. They could have a provocation lined up and ready to go. Like MH-17

Bold claim, got any proof? Be careful and don't drink the koolaid, the Russian government are full of shit just like pretty much every other government.

MH-17 is proof that the west is full of shit.   So it is up to you clowns to prove your claims when it comes to Russia.
Not the other way around.

Indeed, MH-17 was one of the most blatant false-flags ever witnessed. Ukronie air traffic controllers directed a commercial passenger aircraft over an active warzone, a blatant violation of the 1999 Montreal Convention of air disasters. I've yet to see a proper mainstream explanation for that. What's even more interesting is that the Malaysian govt. has refused to condemn the Russian Federation for this air disaster, and Malaysian-Russia ties have seemingly been unaffected. But by far the most interesting aspect about the MH-17 disaster was the blatant red flag of the US/UK, Dutch and Ukraine parties trying their hardest to exclude Malaysia from the investigation. Why would they purposely attempt to exclude Malaysia from the investigation? Because they have to uphold narrative of course!

So let's recap on the serious question surrounding the MH-17 disaster charade:

1.) Why did the Ukronie traffic controllers ostensibly violate the Montreal Convention of air disasters and direct a passenger plane over an active warzone?

2.) How come the Malaysian govt. refuses to condemn Russia as a guilty party involved in the MH-17 disaster, and has since strived to maintain good unaffected relations towards the Russian govt?

3.) Why did the Ukrainian govt. try desperately to prevent the Malaysian govt. from participating in the MH-17 disaster investigation?

Best examples are these bullshit thesis about "Holodomor"...that Russians starved the poor little sweet cute Ukrainians to death! Americans spent a lot of time and money in fabricating this story. In reality ALL died during these years, from Russians, Belarussians to Ukrainians. It was not exclusive Ukraine! And by the way...Stalin was not ethnic russian!!!!!

Not only was Stalin not Russian, the architect of the Holodomor was Lazar Kaganovich  - ironic given that Victoria Nuland that handmaiden of the 2014 coupe in Ukraine is married to prominent neocon Robert Kagan. Kagan and Kaganovich are both Jewish surnames derivative of Cohen. Maybe they were related?

Finty wrote:

Backman wrote:

Arrow wrote:It is obvious that there will be no war in Donbas.

And nobody knows what the CIA has in mind. They could have a provocation lined up and ready to go. Like MH-17

Bold claim, got any proof? Be careful and don't drink the koolaid, the Russian government are full of shit just like pretty much every other government.

Bullshit. Russia does not do openly criminal acts regularly like the CIA does. I wish Russia would but it doesn't. Putin doesn't operate that way. Putin should have assassinated somebody after his ambassador was assassinated in Turkey. He should have assassinated somebody for the death of Motorola. At least they scooped up Paul Whalen. But thats about it.   Does Russia lie and stretch the truth on some things. Of course.

MH-17, Skripals, Syria chemical attacks, Navalny poisoning. All CIA/MI6 jobs with no Russian equivalents.

I am reading John Helmers book on MH17 right now. He is a Putin critic and he still 100% sure that it was a false flag. https://www.amazon.ca/Lie-That-Shot-Down-MH17-ebook/dp/B08KH71XYL

magnumcromagnon wrote:
Indeed, MH-17 was one of the most blatant false-flags ever witnessed. Ukronie air traffic controllers directed a commercial passenger aircraft over an active warzone, a blatant violation of the 1999 Montreal Convention of air disasters. I've yet to see a proper mainstream explanation for that. What's even more interesting is that the Malaysian govt. has refused to condemn the Russian Federation for this air disaster, and Malaysian-Russia ties have seemingly been unaffected. But by far the most interesting aspect about the MH-17 disaster was the blatant red flag of the US/UK, Dutch and Ukraine parties trying their hardest to exclude Malaysia from the investigation. Why would they purposely attempt to exclude Malaysia from the investigation? Because they have to uphold narrative of course!

So let's recap on the serious question surrounding the MH-17 disaster charade:

1.) Why did the Ukronie traffic controllers ostensibly violate the Montreal Convention of air disasters and direct a passenger plane over an active warzone?

2.) How come the Malaysian govt. refuses to condemn Russia as a guilty party involved in the MH-17 disaster, and has since strived to maintain good unaffected relations towards the Russian govt?

3.) Why did the Ukrainian govt. try desperately to prevent the Malaysian govt. from participating in the MH-17 disaster investigation?

Those Kiev ATC tapes were magically disappeared shortly after the crash of MH-17. And the Kiev regime was made a full party of the
investigation of this crime by NATzO. So the most likely perps were given a veto over the conclusions of the "investigation". Pure
kangaroo court theater if there ever was one.

MH-17 is also an obvious false flag because the whole theory being pimped by NATzO and its Kiev regime minions is that Putin sent over a
single Buk system just to take out this civilian airliner. So Putin did not send Buk systems to help the "terrorists", he sent only one which
he then recalled to attack MH-17. This is total tinfoil hat theorizing. If you want to complete the psyop setup and assume that that
he tried to frame Ukraine, then where is there any indication of that? There was no Russian media hysteria over Ukr fighter jets and
SAMs being threats to civilian air traffic. By contrast, NATzO's fake stream media went into a total 1930s style hate frenzy over MH-17.
The one who shouts loudest had the most motive. I know that it is always plausible in the minds of western haters that Russians
are total fucktards when it comes to anything, but get fucking real. Trying to blow a civilian aircraft out of the sky over the Donbass
with a Buk trivially exposes the "terrorists" to accusations of doing it. According to western haters Russians are just to dumb to think
of such details. In the real world, some theoretical psyop against Banderastan by Russia would have:

1) involved a Russian passenger jet

2) have the shootdown occur over a border region well away from the Donbass, for the simple reason that no excuses such as
collateral damage would be enabled.

Thus, anyone who buys into the NATzO MH-17 narrative is either and idiot or malicious.

The US military attache in Ukraine was photographed with “Ukraine or Death” insignia on her arm during her visit to the conflict line in Donbas.



https://twitter.com/MuradGazdiev/status/1380481964805914627

#US Embassy Attaché Colonel Brittany Stewart laid a wreath and paid tribute to the grave of Right Sector Neo-Nazi militant Vasily Slipak.
#Russia defeated Nazism in WWII, unfortunately it has to fight this ideology again 75 years later.
#Ukraine


https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1380502102410207232

Get ready for more #US false-flags. Washington’s desperate elites are ready to do everything to thwart the collapse of their empire.
#WWIII


U.S. Air Force pilot spotted with Russian patch

https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1380472745117548547

LMFS wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:I noticed a lot of articles you guys post is always saying WWIII as US gets involved.  I'm curious, where do they get this?

Because, US made it quite obvious they aren't sending troops. Germany made it obvious Ukraine won't be in NATO anytime soon, and we heard it before with Syria and Georgia.  Which didn't result in anything.

Man, US isn't gonna fight directly. Russia and US never do. It's always through proxies.

The start situation is that US forces Ukraine to go to war against Russia, Western MSM get their material and Europe is prevented from restoring ties or deepening any cooperation with Russia. The problem appears when Russia says very clearly that attacking Donbass will lead to the destruction of Ukraine and threatens directly the clown/nazis/oligarchs, making them think twice before obeying, US sees their authority challenged and feels compelled to raise the stakes and even deploy some troops in a token amount, potentially as a deterrent vs Russia. If these troops are hit either by Russia or through false flag, odds that the current US leadership has the humbleness not to escalate is very optimistic, too much I would say.

So it is a matter of inadequate US elites permanently doubling down as per reflex and not properly aware of the risks involved and calculating accordingly. The closer they come to the Russian border, the higher the probability the conflict spills over into a way bigger scale.

Same thing in Georgia. Blacks desguises as volunteers (the hey were American) were killed by Russian troops as they advanced on Tblisi.  In the end, no one cared.

Ukraine isn't part of NATO so no form of agreements hold. Russia can strike and Ukraine is doomed. Any NATO and US forces in the area will flee like in Syria.

"Bayraktars" began to fly over Donbass

At approximately 18:00 Moscow time (coinciding with Kiev) on April 9, 2021, a reconnaissance and strike drone Bayraktar TB2 ("Bayraktar TB2") of the Turkish Armed Forces of Ukraine was first seen in the sky over Kramatorsk, Donetsk region. This fixation indicates the beginning of flights of the mentioned drones over Donbas.

Full article: https://pll4mi3fskkynekzvxxr6u4ery--topcor-ru.translate.goog/19435-bajraktary-nachali-letat-nad-donbassom.html

NOTE: Kramatorsk is one of the Donetsk Cities occupied by the Ukrainian forces and is to the north of Donetsk City so UAV not actually over free Donbass but getting closer. In case you were not aware Ukrainian forces occupy 60% of the Donbass.

It is obvious that there will be no war in Donbas.

I would have said the same about a war in South Ossetia in July 2008... who knew the Tie Eater was that desperate and stupid?

Bold claim, got any proof? Be careful and don't drink the koolaid, the Russian government are full of shit just like pretty much every other government.

The only forces with BUK missiles where the plane was shot down was the Ukraine... unless you count the much more modern Russian batteries that use a newer missile with different shaped fragments to those found on the plane drove from Russia.... launched the missile and then returned to Russia with no evidence left behind and missile warhead fragments totally reshaped on their way up to the target to the shape of previous models of the missile no longer in use in Russia but still used and present on the ground in the Ukraine. There were claims the Ukraine didn't have any of those vehicles but soon afterwards a video of a BUK vehicle with old model missiles (the fin shape is different and obvious) running into a building while being moved in the Ukraine...

So let's recap on the serious question surrounding the MH-17 disaster charade:

Plus 4) if Russia was excluded from the investigation because of their involvement, why was the Ukraine included... it should be excluded for the same reasons.

and 5) the fragments don't match with the Russian missiles accused of bringing the airliner down, while the fragments do match the older model BUK missiles still in service in the Ukraine.

I am reading John Helmers book on MH17 right now. He is a Putin critic and he still 100% sure that it was a false flag.

Based on evidence rather than ideology... something the west has forgotten I guess.

It has to be innocent until proven guilty because proving innocence is almost impossible most of the time.

franco wrote:"Bayraktars" began to fly over Donbass

At approximately 18:00 Moscow time (coinciding with Kiev) on April 9, 2021, a reconnaissance and strike drone Bayraktar TB2 ("Bayraktar TB2") of the Turkish Armed Forces of Ukraine was first seen in the sky over Kramatorsk, Donetsk region. This fixation indicates the beginning of flights of the mentioned drones over Donbas.

Full article: https://pll4mi3fskkynekzvxxr6u4ery--topcor-ru.translate.goog/19435-bajraktary-nachali-letat-nad-donbassom.html

NOTE: Kramatorsk is one of the Donetsk Cities occupied by the Ukrainian forces and is to the north of Donetsk City so UAV not actually over free Donbass but getting closer. In case you were not aware Ukrainian forces occupy 60% of the Donbass.

Franco, I like you analysis to these things.

How do you think DNR and LNR forces will be able to respond to these drones? Or will they need to rely on RuAF to take them out?

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Get ready for more #US false-flags. Washington’s desperate elites are ready to do everything to thwart the collapse of their empire.
#WWIII


U.S. Air Force pilot spotted with Russian patch

https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1380472745117548547

Lol, this exercise has been going on for years and years.

The guys are playing the roles of Russian pilots and combating against NATO pilots.

So why are you bringing this up now? trying to say we going to false flag russia?.

Come on do you think if we were going to do that we'd use such an obvious method lol.

Hell the US has planes painted in the colors and what not of the Russians, that they use for combat drills. This is completely normal.

OSCE ceasefire violations map for April 8th

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EymXHv7W8AE8_AO?format=jpg&name=900x900

EDIT: map also gives you an idea of how much of the Donbass is still under Ukrainian forces control.

miketheterrible wrote:

Franco, I like you analysis to these things.

How do you think DNR and LNR forces will be able to respond to these drones? Or will they need to rely on RuAF to take them out?

I suspect that the Russians have given them data from observations in Syria, Libya and Armenian plus tools to assist. However theory and practical do not always have the same results, only actual use will reveal how successful they are. The Russian's have drawn varied Air Defense assets closer to the border just in case additional help is needed.

franco wrote:

miketheterrible wrote:

Franco, I like you analysis to these things.

How do you think DNR and LNR forces will be able to respond to these drones? Or will they need to rely on RuAF to take them out?

I suspect that the Russians have given them data from observations in Syria, Libya and Armenian plus tools to assist. However theory and practical do not always have the same results, only actual use will reveal how successful they are. The Russian's have drawn varied Air Defense assets closer to the border just in case additional help is needed.

Do we know which Russian assets are closer to the border? I'm assuming low altitude radar as well to spot those drones at long ranges.

I read yesterday that a S-300PM2 battalion was moved to the west of Taganrog along the Azov Sea in addition to the S400 stationed just to the west of Rostov City. Between those two battalions all of the LDPR is under their umbrella plus additional BUK's are being reported close to the border area's. There were earlier reported sightings of new and upgraded Russian low level radars operating inside the LDPR close to the Luhansk / Donetsk border. This would provide increased coverage within the Republics while the Russians have 3 large modern radar bases in this area within 50 km's of the borders already.

Sweet.

Now I would love to see Buk-M3's in the area and used.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Get ready for more #US false-flags. Washington’s desperate elites are ready to do everything to thwart the collapse of their empire.
#WWIII


U.S. Air Force pilot spotted with Russian patch

https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1380472745117548547

Lol, this exercise has been going on for years and years.

The guys are playing the roles of Russian pilots and combating against NATO pilots.

So why are you bringing this up now? trying to say we going to false flag russia?.

Come on do you think if we were going to do that we'd use such an obvious method lol.

Hell the US has planes painted in the colors and what not of the Russians, that they use for combat drills. This is completely normal.

Indeed, an embarrassing overreaction from paranoid idiots. As you’ve pointed out, why tf would they do a false flag with jets in usaf colours? It’s just exercise point blank and the USAF has been using aggressor squadrons back home for years with Russian camo’d jets, maybe the Russians should consider setting up their own.

miketheterrible wrote:Sweet.

Now I would love to see Buk-M3's in the area and used.

There is also the 77th Air Defense brigade at Korenovsk equipped with the new S300V4 which could be at the border in short time. Lots of firepower available.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Get ready for more #US false-flags. Washington’s desperate elites are ready to do everything to thwart the collapse of their empire.
#WWIII


U.S. Air Force pilot spotted with Russian patch

https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1380472745117548547

I’m starting to get the impression that Russians like playing the victim at times. Don’t, you’re better than this.

Indeed, an embarrassing overreaction from paranoid idiots. It’s just exercise point blank and the USAF has been using aggressor squadrons back home for years, maybe the Russians should consider setting up their own.


The Russians actually have 2 similar units. The 4th Combat Aviation training center at Lipetsk and the 116th Combat Aviation training center at Astrakhan.

Deserters, getting away rather than be cannon fodder? He who panics first panics best.

Victor
@vicktop55
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Кремлёвская прачка, [10.04.21 12:34]

The People's Militia of the DPR reported about the mass exodus of the Ukrainian military from Donbass. The department informed that over the past two weeks, 244 people left the location of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Finty wrote:

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Get ready for more #US false-flags. Washington’s desperate elites are ready to do everything to thwart the collapse of their empire.
#WWIII


U.S. Air Force pilot spotted with Russian patch

https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1380472745117548547

I’m starting to get the impression that Russians like playing the victim at times. Don’t, you’re better than this.

Russian officials are now whining about Srebrenica and so on

They're just making themselves look weak and egging on Kiev/Washington even more

Don't. Only action works

franco wrote:Indeed, an embarrassing overreaction from paranoid idiots. It’s just exercise point blank and the USAF has been using aggressor squadrons back home for years, maybe the Russians should consider setting up their own.


The Russians actually have 2 similar units. The 4th Combat Aviation training center at Lipetsk and the 116th Combat Aviation training center at Astrakhan.  

Thanks for clarifying. Going off topic but one day I’d like to see pics of su27s or mig29s done up in USAF camo to simulate the enemy!