Decline of the western society #2

kvs wrote:My encounters with western believers in the US military might points to the spread of magical thinking in the western public.
So the size of the US military budget in supposedly reflecting the super advanced technology that only the US has.   You
can't make this shit up.  It is pure inanity.  The US does not even have hypersonic missiles (ICBMs are not relevant) for use
against ships and in regional theaters.   Anyone with a clue about US procurement and contractors would never assume that
the money is being efficiently spent and that the prices the government pays are anywhere close to sane.   That is why the
Pentagon can't account for trillions of dollars in its accounting in the last 30 years.  

Most people in the west actually believe that the various "game changer" weapons sent to Ukraine are actually that.  So all
they need is for the mass media to put on some spin which is never backed up with facts or followed up.   You cannot have
a democracy when the proles are such saps.   Whether this sappiness is due to apathy or mental deficiency is not relevant.
The US political process has been reduced to spending on political ads delivering on votes.   Not substance but advertising
expenditure.   The same goes for Kanada and U-rope.  

I agree with most of what you said, but let us not measure and assume the US by what they are forcing the Ukrops to do and their tactics. They don´t value their lives and are merely testing waters everywhere.

We are fully aware that the West (PONOS) countries will have lower tactical finesse than the Ukrops, but let us not get intoxicated by how the US abuses Ukrops without a brain as human waves.

The US is not a land force super power and they know that very well, thus they will use as much gorilla warfare and dirty cheapshots all around Russia´s border to count on headless chickens and to demoralize. We can see that this shit works with to many people and enough people on this forum are evidence of it.

I really hope Russia and most Russians don´t get intoxicated by the current events. That could end fatal.

ALAMO wrote:Bro, you don't need to fly so high
You do know that the Muricans won't get a single word out of that.
They are preprogrammed since they are born.
What fuckin "hypersonic" ??
They don't have a serious weapon that goes Mach 1.0 yet 2.0
They have reinvented a wolfpack for a missile salvo, imagine that!?!
Those bloody losers seriously put that as a fuckin' "gamechanger", just 40 years after the Soviets fielded those weapon, and would torn them apart if needed
They are reinventing concepts and shit the Soviets already did in the 70s  and sell that as a fuckin' achievement
A reinventing of a wheel is next in line!

Oh don't get me started, i explained point by point about America's technological decline, hyper-sonic weapons being as clear an example as can be, and this fool claimed that it does not have accuracy to hit its target, ergo it doesn't matter.

Like WTF dude?

ALAMO wrote:They are still calling HARM a "high speed" - that should ring a bell in anyone

Even the recent E variant is still chasing the Kh-28 in terms of speed.

Only the upcoming G variant increases the speed, supposedly to around mach 4 and a range of 300km, source vary though.

Hello, what's this?

During early September 2022, a Ukrainian Su-27S was spotted with an AGM-88 HARM fitted on the wing pylons. This is the first case of an Su-27 being spotted with an AGM-88 fitted. The missile has been directly fitted to the APU-470 missile launchers, the same launcher used by MiG-29 and Su-27 to fire missiles like the R-27 (air-to-air missile). wrote:

The US is not a land force super power and they know that very well, thus they will use as much gorilla warfare and dirty cheapshots all around Russia´s border to count on headless chickens and to demoralize. We can see that this shit works with to many people and enough people on this forum are evidence of it.

I agree with what you are saying but there is some solace in the fact that the US and HATO are air power oriented and the Russian IADS is geared to deal with them and is only improving every single day.

Russia is learning good lessons about targeting and engaging with speed enemy threats that pop up and try to run away just as quickly, and its air defence capacity has proven to be very very good which would be crippling to a HATO force...

Just look at their performance in Afghanistan... once they sent their air power home their capacity to continue the fight disappeared and an enemy that had the air power and artillery of Russia would likely clean them up in relatively short order because they have no where near the casualty tolerance that Kiev does.

I really hope Russia and most Russians don´t get intoxicated by the current events. That could end fatal.

As long as Russia has nukes the US and EU and HATO wont want to play directly on the same battlefield... the core lesson Russia and the Russian people need to learn from this conflict is that the west used Nazis and bio weapons and if given the chance nuclear weapons to murder people in the east and south ukraine for their crime of not being anti Russian enough.

The west justified every Orc war crime and tried to claim many were war crimes committed by Russian troops.

At a time when Manning is in and out of prison, Assange is being held in prison and Snowden is in exile and many more who revealed genuine war crimes committed by the US and her allies who remain not only free but continue to commit and enable war crimes offenders, what future could any honest moral ethical country have with the west... who created those warcrime definitions to further punish their political and economic and military enemies on the international stage like Germany and Japan and Russia and China and Iran and North Korea and Cuba etc etc etc.

Oh don't get me started, i explained point by point about America's technological decline, hyper-sonic weapons being as clear an example as can be, and this fool claimed that it does not have accuracy to hit its target, ergo it doesn't matter.

Makes you wonder why the west is so scared.... and also why Russia can be so confident taking on all of the west as it is.

Only the upcoming G variant increases the speed, supposedly to around mach 4 and a range of 300km, source vary though.

Hello, what's this?

I would say it was the US MIC trying to get some real life testing of their latest designs of that missile... recovering bits should be rather interesting...

kvs wrote:

andalusia wrote:Here in the United States, there is an extreme emphasis on all students to go to college.  I think this article makes a good point about the consequences of this worldview.  


https://dailycollegian.com/2018/10/too-many-people-are-going-to-college/

If you go to college then you will be forced to take the latest "vaccine" for some engineered virus like covid.    Western civilization is off the rails but
most don't know it yet.  

The real criminals in the Student Loan fiasco is the Education Mafia.  First of all they got rid of all vocational courses that were in high schools and forced all students into college prep classes.  Second the Colleges (both private and state ones) saw this influx of new money and did a massive money grab from students far exceeding any inflation numbers. The schools made off as true Robber Barons and turned Students into indentured servants for life. Schools introduced new required (albeit useless) classes, forcing students to extend their college years by one or two years (more money for the colleges.).  As they say follow the money and the ones that are getting away with it are the Education Mafia!!

Their is a need to bring back vocational education here in the US:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholaswyman/2015/09/01/why-we-desperately-need-to-bring-back-vocational-training-in-schools/?sh=76429f1e87ad

Just want to know is vocational technical education valued in Russia and other countries outside of the US? I think the death of the shop class as well as the overemphasis on everybody going to college played a role.




From A Critical Review of Matthew Crawford's Shop Class as Soulcraft


...the skilled trades are undervalued in America. They are undervalued in the American educational system that has systematically eliminated shop class. They are undervalued in the collective consciousness that views them as lowly, “blue collar”, dirty, unprofessional. But, the funny thing is that there is one place where they are actually not undervalued at all, and that is in the marketplace, which has seen a greater and greater demand for the skilled craftsman, be he a carpenter, electrician, machinist, mechanic, and so on. On account of his being in demand, the skilled tradesman has his choice of jobs, needs answer to no one, and earns a living wage, perks that are not to be scoffed at in this economic environment.

Werewolf wrote:

I agree with most of what you said, but let us not measure and assume the US by what they are forcing the Ukrops to do and their tactics. They don´t value their lives and are merely testing waters everywhere.

We are fully aware that the West (PONOS) countries will have lower tactical finesse than the Ukrops, but let us not get intoxicated by how the US abuses Ukrops without a brain as human waves.

The US is not a land force super power and they know that very well, thus they will use as much gorilla warfare and dirty cheapshots all around Russia´s border to count on headless chickens and to demoralize. We can see that this shit works with to many people and enough people on this forum are evidence of it.

I really hope Russia and most Russians don´t get intoxicated by the current events. That could end fatal.

You mean the people here that never seen a day of hardship?, or seen how the world is like outside of their borders?.
Where other cultures live that have different viewpoints?. some negative to the nations they come from?.
What exactly happens with Western society when Internet breaks down and there are large scale power failures?.

NATO....the most incompetent organization i have ever seen.
It is purely an proxy organization for the U.S. where in all it's nations it has total control over its politicians.

All that remains in NATO, is the types that like to drink the NATO version of Jim jones his coolaid.
the U.S is Emperor, and" we are just vassals under it's rule, you will sacrifice your own nations interests before them".
Other cultures?, they are either to be conquered to establish an puppet government or subjugated into civil war so they never will pose an threat.

All troops of quality have on-mass left the service. either disillusioned or forced to leave because their views on the service where "undesirable"
all you now have on the battlefield are brainwashed yes-men.

Yes, these types commit heinous acts. Pettle-mines dropped over donetsk for example.
But perhaps by luck, these people's arrogance in believing they are "the shit"
Makes them as dumb as they are just downright evil.
I seen it timeless times over, NATO never learns humility. Or Respect for their enemy.
Not even when they take massive losses.

It is an corrupt system, Yes-men officers are promoted. and drawn in to the War-machine.
where they are kept close to the Millitary-industrial complex.
Furthering the corruption even more.

Like approving of "new" systems that can not even achieve their goals in peacetime.
Sub-standard systems that are way overpriced.
its tech-specs shielded from the troops. so manufacturers can also sell "maintenance contracts".
manipulated field tests, etc.

Do not get me started about the disgusting status of Western Society.

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Personally speaking, i was present in 2014 when NATO began shipping massive amount of arms to Kiev after the coup.
it started with the snip of the finger, Everyone knew this was prepared beforehand.
Nobody knows exactly from where, witch route and what destination an arms shipment has if not pre-planned.

I saw a lot of documentation in this 2014-2015 period that i found disgusting. That i felt there should be consequences for towards NATO.
It never happened, the propaganda machine covered it all up.

Russia can not accept this systematic attempt of genocide of the Russian state and its people.

These are dark times, but things need to be done.
And we are all forced to take our positions.
And i am fully with Russia on this one.

higurashihougi wrote:https://www.rt.com/news/566049-zlibrary-shutdown-fbi-seizure-copyright/

Massive ‘shadow library’ shut down

The FBI has seized several domains associated with popular free ebook resource ZLibrary

Multiple web domains belonging to popular free ebook resource ZLibrary were seized by the FBI on Friday after the shadow library fell under investigation by the US Trade Representative.

Z-lib.org, b-ok.org, 3lib.net and other domains were taken offline, redirecting to a graphic declaring they had been seized by the FBI in partnership with the US Attorney for the Eastern District of New York. While ZLibrary's darknet domain was still accessible as of Sunday, it carried an error message above the search bar.

The site held some 220 terabytes worth of information, much of it copyrighted and all of it free to access. As of September, about 11 million books and 84 million articles were available.

Horrified users likened the seizure to the burning of the Library of Alexandria - before trading suggestions for alternate platforms to use, such as free library Libgen. ZLibrary has been collecting content since 2009, when it began as a Libgen mirror. However, users soon began adding their own documents, meaning much of the content is likely to be unavailable outside ZLibrary - and certainly unavailable for free.

Beloved by students, who seldom have the funds to dump on expensive textbooks or pricey academic journal subscriptions, ZLibrary eventually gained a devoted following on TikTok - much to the dismay of the Authors Guild, a writers’ trade group. The Guild blames digital piracy for an average decline of 42% in writers’ incomes over the last decade.

After the Guild wrote to the US Trade Representative earlier this month referencing TikTok in its plea to have ZLibrary classified as a “notorious market” for promoting piracy, the platform blocked the #ZLibrary hashtag.

Some 200 domains associated with ZLibrary were ordered blocked in France in September following a lawsuit by the National Publishing Union, and multiple Indian ISPs were previously ordered to block access following a complaint by the Taxmann publishing company.

According to Bleeping Computer, however, “little is known about the platform’s operators and commercial status,” meaning ZLibrary may simply switch domains and rise again.

Some of the domains have been redirected to Njalla, an anonymous hosting provider founded by the creator of the Pirate Bay, though it's not clear how ZLibrary's operators could have regained control of their domains following the seizure.

By the way, yesterday was the birthday of Alexandra Elbakyan.

Ah hell

Why have I never heard about this site until today?

This library and it's derivates have been online since many years and have appeared every few months under a new domain since they ban the domain they are reachable at a time.

Freebookz.org was the last domain it was under I remember.

Holy crap, Airstrip One is here.