China's rumoured long term expansion plan

Sujoy wrote:Right now Afghanistan is not a priority for China. They would rather want Pakistan to deal with Afghanistan.

On the other hand, the Communist Party of China has prioritized the "6 Must Wars" that it will wage in the Next 50 Years:

1 Unify Taiwan by 2020-2025
2 Recover South China Sea Islands by 2025-2030
3 Recover Southern Tibet from India by 2035-2040
4 Recover Diaoyu Islands by 2040-2045
5 Unification of Inner & Outer Mongolia by 2045-2050
6 Regain Russian Territory in Far East by 2055-2060

Sujoy wrote:...Basically trying to suggest then can repeat such operations if need be.

PapaDragon wrote:So their plan is financial and societal collapse by 2035-2040 and nuclear extinction of China by 2055-2060?

Solid plan right there (I doubt it's real but what the hell, right?)

Sujoy wrote:...Since China is going from strength to strength it is quite possible that they will achieve these objectives within the forecast period. Notice that they have arranged their priorities taking into account the relative strength of their adversaries. So Taiwan comes first and Japan and Russia towards the end.

PapaDragon wrote:USA never dared even in the 90s, what chance does China have?

RTN wrote:
We had no intention too and I'll wager neither had USSR. China did invade a nuclear armed USSR in 1969.

PapaDragon wrote:

They can go from strength to super strength and arrange whatever they want however they want but unless they develop immunity to nuclear fire and ability to live without food and water they won't be touching Russia, ever

USA never dared even in the 90s, what chance does China have?

Sujoy wrote:

Isos wrote:It could be true. Soviet used mainly bombers in their operations that couldn't do much to protect themselves against fighters.

Pakis are claiming that they shot down Soviet fighter jets. That aside, why would the USSR deploy bombers without supporting them with fighters knowing fully well that Pakistan Air Force is already targeting Soviet bombers.

PapaDragon wrote:So their plan is financial and societal collapse by 2035-2040 and nuclear extinction of China by 2055-2060?

Solid plan right there (I doubt it's real but what the hell, right?)

PLA had released a book in 2013 entitled ‘China Is Not Afraid — New Threats to National Security and Our Strategic Responses’, (中国不怕——国防安全新威胁与我们的战略应对).

They suggested 6 inevitable wars that China will fight till 2060.

https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/chinas-six-wars-in-the-next-50-years/

Since China is going from strength to strength it is quite possible that they will achieve these objectives within the forecast period. Notice that they have arranged their priorities taking into account the relative strength of their adversaries. So Taiwan comes first and Japan and Russia towards the end.

nomadski wrote:
This rumours about China long term expansion plan , I do not believe it . Basically all borders between nuclear armed states are fixed . China , Russia , India , Pakistan etc . Even non-nuke  armed states such as Japan or Iran more or less safe , since Japan warned N.Korea of Nuke development , in case of further escalation . Similarly no border dispute between Russia or Japan over Islands or border dispute between Pakistan or Iran . Israel border also fixed .These borders are nuclear fixed .

nomadski wrote:Some positive news about Tajik pushing pashtuns out of panjshir.......

https://en.mehrnews.com/news/178472/Panjshir-Front-retakes-three-areas-from-Taliban

RTN wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:USA never dared even in the 90s, what chance does China have?

We had no intention too and I'll wager neither had USSR. ...

RTN wrote:...China did invade a nuclear armed USSR in 1969....

RTN wrote:...Already a large Chinese population has flooded the Russian Far East. ...

RTN wrote:...They might not have to fire a single shot to take over eastern Russia...

PapaDragon wrote:

RTN wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:USA never dared even in the 90s, what chance does China have?

We had no intention too and I'll wager neither had USSR. ...

Correct, neither of you did and there's a reason for that (several thousand reasons, both fission and fusion ones)

RTN wrote:...China did invade a nuclear armed USSR in 1969....

And immediately ran under Uncle Sam's skirt who had to send Forest Gump to save their asses

RTN wrote:...Already a large Chinese population has flooded the Russian Far East. ...

Only thing large Chinese population is flooding is Chinese Pacific coast where 80% of them are crammed together

You don't even need nukes to exterminate China anymore, several missiles into critical infrastructure is enough, after that you just let famine, dehydration, disease and societal collapse do the work for you

Chinese know this and so do Americans, why do you think Chinese are hell bent on building the Navy and Americans developed sudden intermediate range missile boner?

RTN wrote:...They might not have to fire a single shot to take over eastern Russia...

This meme is getting old, there's more Koreans in East Russia than Chinese

Check the map to see which countries have border with China and how big

miketheterrible wrote:

PapaDragon wrote:This meme is getting old, there's more Koreans in East Russia than Chinese

Check the map to see which countries have border with China and how big

There are more chinese.people in Moscow than in all of Siberia region.

I'm still unsure where this meme came from. There are barely any Chinese in eastern Russia....

Arrow wrote:

Somehow I don't see it.  Hundreds of US IRBMs and IRCMs near China.  First, let them take care of their strategic arsenal at CONUS and replace the old Minuteman III.  China is strengthening its AD so the US IRCM based on a weak Tomahowk is not a big threat to China.  The US is barely building AEGIS bases in Europe.  They did not place the IRBM on the border with Russia.

PapaDragon wrote:You don't even need nukes to exterminate China anymore, several missiles into critical infrastructure is enough, after that you just let famine, dehydration, disease and societal collapse do the work for you

ALAMO wrote:China is a huge country, with most of its interior actually depopulated.
They have no need for any territorial expansion, including the run for resources.

ALAMO wrote:They own half of Africa already, and there are tons of Chinese in Africa.
Not a single shot was needed.

miketheterrible wrote:
Actually, you are replying to rtn, I believe I have already proved this morning wrong on more than one occasion on this very comment. So he is just repeating nonsense.

This here is people who can't distinguish Koreans from Chinese. All slant eyed people must be Chinese....

RTN wrote:
China became huge through forceful occupation. It was not even among the top 10 countries by area after WW-II but invaded Western parts and Tibet citing bogus Hun history to occupy those areas.

Mir wrote:I believe that throughout much of the late 19th Century and early to mid 20th Century China was forcefully occupied by foreign forces?  

GarryB wrote:BTW Sujoy, China is currently expanding its nuclear weapons capacity because the US has withdrawn from the INF treaty for the specific purpose of positioning enormous numbers of ballistic and cruise based IR missiles... IRBM and IRCM in the pacific area around China for the express purpose of applying pressure on China and try to restrict her growth.

ALAMO wrote:...Well, because most of these idiocies came up directly from Hindu arses.
I saw articles in the Hindu press comparing Jin Ping to Hitler already....

Mir wrote:...I believe the US can't afford to replace the Minuteman III's. I saw some ginormous figures somewhere that even the US can't afford!...

RTN wrote:...China can do exactly the same thing to Japan and India if not Russia. With an economy larger than all these 3 countries they can easily afford it....

RTN wrote:Must be the foreign forces like Tibetian, Uyghurs whose land is now forcefully occupied by China, illegally....