2022 Kazakhstan violent unrest

Hole wrote:The Kyrgyz guy is used by western paid agitators to rise tensions with Kazakhs.

flamming_python wrote:Or used by the new Kazakh govt. to raise tensions with Kyrgyz as Kyrgyzstan is a cloaked Soros NGO outpost at the moment, and because the Kazakh elites don't want to admit that all these marauders and bandits are homegrown, trained at home and have been used over the past 3 years in pogroms against Dungan, Kurdish and Uighur villages. During the reign of the same Tokayev I might add, although I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as 2019-2022 has been a period of dual-power between Tokayev and Nazarbayev.

magnumcromagnon wrote:

Hole wrote:The Kyrgyz guy is used by western paid agitators to rise tensions with Kazakhs.

Pepe Escobar has an interesting take on this:

US intel is totally freaking out.

The crack 45th Guards Spetsnaz Brigade has already cracked it: the Empire of Chaos/Daesh connection.

US "intel" funneled their beheading assets from West Asia and Afghanistan to Kyrgyzstan.

And then across the border to Almaty.

https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1480238866397376512

PapaDragon wrote:

par far wrote:

AZ-5 wrote:a recent news video footage

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These foreign assholes need to be made a example of, so next time, assholes like these think twice before doing something like this.

It is going to take a little while for things to get back to normal.

Dude, don't quote so many video files just to drop one unrelated sentence, it's clogging up my tablet

par far wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Or used by the new Kazakh govt. to raise tensions with Kyrgyz as Kyrgyzstan is a cloaked Soros NGO outpost at the moment, and because the Kazakh elites don't want to admit that all these marauders and bandits are homegrown, trained at home and have been used over the past 3 years in pogroms against Dungan, Kurdish and Uighur villages. During the reign of the same Tokayev I might add, although I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as 2019-2022 has been a period of dual-power between Tokayev and Nazarbayev.

It was mostly Nazarbayev that was responsible for 2019-until end of 2021.

One of the main reasons for this coup attempt was because Tokayev was gaining more power and Tokayev was pro-Russian, while Nazarbayev was very anti-Russian(the whole world knows this.)

The power struggle between Tokayev and Nazarbayev was going on and Tokayev was gaining the upper hand, so the west had to do something and that something was this.

There is a reason that Tokayev got Moscow's support so quickly and he got a phone with Putin right away.

flamming_python wrote:

par far wrote:

flamming_python wrote:Or used by the new Kazakh govt. to raise tensions with Kyrgyz as Kyrgyzstan is a cloaked Soros NGO outpost at the moment, and because the Kazakh elites don't want to admit that all these marauders and bandits are homegrown, trained at home and have been used over the past 3 years in pogroms against Dungan, Kurdish and Uighur villages. During the reign of the same Tokayev I might add, although I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt as 2019-2022 has been a period of dual-power between Tokayev and Nazarbayev.

It was mostly Nazarbayev that was responsible for 2019-until end of 2021.

One of the main reasons for this coup attempt was because Tokayev was gaining more power and Tokayev was pro-Russian, while Nazarbayev was very anti-Russian(the whole world knows this.)

The power struggle between Tokayev and Nazarbayev was going on and Tokayev was gaining the upper hand, so the west had to do something and that something was this.

There is a reason that Tokayev got Moscow's support so quickly and he got a phone with Putin right away.

I don't think Nazarbayev is either pro or anti Russian. He's just an opportunist like Yanukovich, and adopted the same strategy of sitting on two seats. He had hoped to secure a place for his family as the ruling dynasty of Kazakhstan, hence his efforts at retaining power and influence even towards the twilight of his life.

For all the internal sins of Nazarbayev, he has been pretty active in promoting for example, Eurasian economic union expansion to Uzbekistan and Azerbaijan. Of course by doing this he probably also hoped to dilute Moscow's weight in the organization. It's take and give with him.

I also don't think Tokayev is necessarily all that pro-Russian. First and foremost he needed an ally to usurp control from Nazarbayev or whoever it was that were his opponents in this power struggle, and he had already built up a rapport with Putin in many mutual meetings, the last of which was the CIS summit in December, when both he and Nazarbayev turned up. Quite possible that the coming events and promises of Russian support were discussed back then.

In return yes, he will certainly enact pro-Russian policies and crackdown on foreign elements and instruments in the country. But perhaps only to a point, and he will seek to compromise with the anti-Russian elites afterwards, and keep relations with the West open.

Airbornewolf wrote:

franco wrote:An attempt to look into the who, what and why;

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/01/mysteries-of-the-failed-rebellion-in-kazakhstan.html

A good read, gotta love twitter scensoring the shit out of the links to sources tough.
inconvinient isnt it?. that your own side is so absolutely incompetent they incriminate themselves online?.

I do not know about Tokayev untill a week ago.
He might have many flaws, i dont know.

But he did not run, seized control and told police and millitary to stand and fight.
and of course also respect to the police and army for immidiatly acknowledging his authority.
An big middle finger towards the West's attempted Coup.

Of course in europe they are talking "sanctions". But really, what is there to sanction?.
It is not like Kazachstan's borders get locked, stopping goods from coming over the border

Of course, the U.S might try to seize Kazachstan assets they can get their hands on.

Airbornewolf wrote:

George1 wrote:Following a request for assistance from Kazakhstan's president, the member states of the CSTO have sent more than 3,000 peacekeepers to aid their neighbor. However, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken is claiming it'll be difficult to get Russian peacekeepers to leave the country now they're there. Nothing like good old-fashioned double standards, eh?

Talk about lacking any sort of self-reflection right?.

Ever since the U.S set foot on E.U Soil in 1944 we seem not to be able to make them leave either.  

Airbornewolf wrote:
Maybe there is an thread somewhere about service-time of the members here.
ill take a look

Antonov said Kazakhstan was hit by radicals

As the Russian Ambassador to the United States noted, the events in Kazakhstan took place after the flight of the United States from Afghanistan and the development of extremist ideas in the region.

WASHINGTON, January 10. / TASS /. Thousands of jihadists took part in the events in Kazakhstan, they tried to undermine the constitutional order of the country. This was stated on Sunday by the Russian ambassador to the United States, Anatoly Antonov, answering questions from journalists.

"Kazakhstan came under attack from radicals professing a misanthropic ideology. Thousands of jihadists and looters tried to undermine the constitutional order. They use weapons against civilians. They cause damage to state and private property. I note that all this happens after the American flight from Afghanistan and the rapid development against this background. extremist ideas and trends in the region, "- said Antonov, whose words are quoted on the page of the Russian Embassy on Facebook .

“For us, the practice of pacifying bandits who attack law enforcement officers, paramedics, and firefighters is unacceptable,” the diplomat said. “What can you talk about with people decapitating police officers ?! that the State Department understands this very well, but they do not want to give up double standards. "

"Where did the hordes of terrorists come from in Kazakhstan? Who guided and helped them? This is a new attempt at a color revolution with the help of thugs and robbers. I am sure that the competent departments of Kazakhstan will understand the situation and the roots of terrorism will be torn out of the Kazakh land," the ambassador added.


CSTO mission

As the diplomat noted, the CSTO contingent from the first hours of work in Kazakhstan has shown its effectiveness in restoring peace and order.

"The first hours of work of the CSTO peacekeeping contingent demonstrate its effectiveness, focus on restoring peace and constitutional order," Antonov emphasized.

The diplomat noted that the arrival of the CSTO contingent was fully legitimate and authorized by the authorities of this country. "All decisions to send collective forces to Kazakhstan were made on the basis of the CSTO charter documents and at the request of the legitimate president of the country, Kassym-Zhomart Tokayev. Today, all democratic forces in the world need to help the government of Kazakhstan recover from the current turmoil, and not try to undermine the situation even more." , - the ambassador emphasized.

Antonov also recalled the events of a year ago in Washington and the actions of the American authorities during the riots in the capital. "A year ago, during the storming of the Capitol, the US authorities did not doubt the need to restore order and bring the instigators of the pogrom to justice. The principle of inevitability of punishment, especially in relation to those who encroach on the lives of innocent people, is fundamental for any rule-of-law state," he concluded.

Peacekeeping goals

According to him, the democratic forces need to provide assistance to Kazakhstan so that it recovers from the shock, and not try to destabilize the situation.

"All decisions to send collective forces to Kazakhstan were made on the basis of the CSTO charter documents and at the request of the legitimate president of the country, Kassym-Zhomart Tokayev. Today, all democratic forces in the world need to help the government of Kazakhstan recover from the current turmoil, and not try to undermine the situation even more." , - emphasized Antonov.

On January 2, protest actions began in a number of settlements of Kazakhstan. Within a few days, they escalated into riots and attacks on government bodies in many cities of the country. Thousands of people have suffered, there are dead. The President of the Republic, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev, turned to the Collective Security Treaty Organization for help. The peacekeepers have already begun to perform their tasks in Kazakhstan. According to the authorities, on January 7, constitutional order was generally restored in all regions of the country. Tokayev declared January 10 a day of national mourning.

Airbornewolf wrote:
But he did not run, seized control and told police and millitary to stand and fight.
and of course also respect to the police and army for immidiatly acknowledging his authority.
An big middle finger towards the West's attempted Coup.

par far wrote:

If they sanction, that is a big win for Russia and China, if they do sanctions, Russian and Chinese oil companies will be going into Kazakhstan, faster than you can say "Chevron out."

As for assets, only the corrupt asshole have assets in the west, in other, cocksuckers that are tied to the west.