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UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News #3
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Just one question: How many bombs can it carry? 
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Russia needs an oversized Geran that can hold a FOAB munition
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haha good question. That's what the S-70 is forHole wrote:Just one question: How many bombs can it carry?
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The S-70 can´t hover. 
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Just one question: How many bombs can it carry?
Gotta listen to the boss... Shoigu wants HMGs mounted on drones... fit Kords.... and those gun pods for helicopters with the single four barrel 12.7mm HMG and two 7.62x54mm four barrel gatlings on either side in each pod (which can also carry a 30mm grenade launcher...).
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Hole wrote:Just one question: How many bombs can it carry?
Let's take it as it is now i.e. something extremely useful and smart, afterward let's look about possible modifications.
It's already a complex thing like it is (when compared to actual FPV drones or even Lancets) being built on an aeronautical standard: adding sensors and armaments could possibly delay its own introduction by some years.
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I put that smiley face behind that sentence for a reason.
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Shoigu still on tour. This time watching drones.
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Ukrainian information resources have published generalized data on the use of kamikaze drones of the Geranium family by the Russian Armed Forces during combat operations. It is noted that in 2024, the Russians have staggeringly increased the use of these loitering munitions by almost 4 times compared to the same period a year earlier.
Thus, from January 1 to May 9, 2024, the Russian Armed Forces deployed 1,664 units, when during the same period in 2023 there were only 425 units. At the same time, Ukrainian journalists decided to sweeten the bitter truth by compiling reports from the local air defense system, indicating an unconfirmed quantitative and percentage “increase in downed” Russian UAVs.
Allegedly, in January of this year, the Russians launched 334 devices, of which 244 units, or 73%, were “intercepted” in various ways. In February, the Russian Armed Forces launched 356 kamikaze UAVs, of which 288 or 81% were “intercepted.” In March, the Russians sent 603 attack drones, of which 516 or 86% were “intercepted.” In April, the Russian Armed Forces carried out launches 295 times, of which 261 devices, or 88%, were “intercepted.” Naturally, the data on “interceptions” by Ukrainian air defense systems does not correspond to reality. However, it will not be surprising if the Armed Forces of Ukraine picture their performance at 100%.
At the same time, it is worth adding that the ZALA company, which is the developer and manufacturer of the Lancet family of loitering ammunition, released statistics for April 2024 on the use of its products in Ukraine. The report also indicated the intensity of strikes in the Northern Military District zone by month per year, i.e. i.e. from April 2023. At the same time, it is noteworthy that over 140 Lancets were used monthly in January-April of this year (January - 141, February - 162, March - 175, April -160).
https://topcor-ru.translate.goog/47271-pojavilas-statistika-primenenija-geranej-i-lancetov-v-hode-svo-na-ukraine.html?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
Thus, from January 1 to May 9, 2024, the Russian Armed Forces deployed 1,664 units, when during the same period in 2023 there were only 425 units. At the same time, Ukrainian journalists decided to sweeten the bitter truth by compiling reports from the local air defense system, indicating an unconfirmed quantitative and percentage “increase in downed” Russian UAVs.
Allegedly, in January of this year, the Russians launched 334 devices, of which 244 units, or 73%, were “intercepted” in various ways. In February, the Russian Armed Forces launched 356 kamikaze UAVs, of which 288 or 81% were “intercepted.” In March, the Russians sent 603 attack drones, of which 516 or 86% were “intercepted.” In April, the Russian Armed Forces carried out launches 295 times, of which 261 devices, or 88%, were “intercepted.” Naturally, the data on “interceptions” by Ukrainian air defense systems does not correspond to reality. However, it will not be surprising if the Armed Forces of Ukraine picture their performance at 100%.
At the same time, it is worth adding that the ZALA company, which is the developer and manufacturer of the Lancet family of loitering ammunition, released statistics for April 2024 on the use of its products in Ukraine. The report also indicated the intensity of strikes in the Northern Military District zone by month per year, i.e. i.e. from April 2023. At the same time, it is noteworthy that over 140 Lancets were used monthly in January-April of this year (January - 141, February - 162, March - 175, April -160).
https://topcor-ru.translate.goog/47271-pojavilas-statistika-primenenija-geranej-i-lancetov-v-hode-svo-na-ukraine.html?utm_source=warfiles.ru&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
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That top photo is interesting Hole, those look like 40mm grenades but rather longer.
The muzzle loaded 40mm grenades are generally normal sized for 40mm grenades as they are muzzle loaded and don't generally stick out of the end of the barrel when loaded.
They do have a 6 round rotary grenade launcher with muzzle loaded grenades and I have seen a video of a guy hand loading a huge long 40mm grenade into the grenade tube lined up with the barrel, so if it was loaded into an under barrel grenade launcher tube it would look like the grenades above. Because of its size and weight it probably only went about 100m when he fired it and it was tumbling end over end as it flew, and I seem to remember it was sort of a pyrotechnic type round that blew up with sparks and flames everywhere... very much not like a normal 40mm grenade.
I guess with the drone in level flight the angle of the launchers means it will hit the ground at a known distance and if the drone has a laser range finder it would be quite accurate. Perhaps it uses an elongated HE Frag warhead for troops on the ground with a bit more HE and fragments than a standard grenade...
The muzzle loaded 40mm grenades are generally normal sized for 40mm grenades as they are muzzle loaded and don't generally stick out of the end of the barrel when loaded.
They do have a 6 round rotary grenade launcher with muzzle loaded grenades and I have seen a video of a guy hand loading a huge long 40mm grenade into the grenade tube lined up with the barrel, so if it was loaded into an under barrel grenade launcher tube it would look like the grenades above. Because of its size and weight it probably only went about 100m when he fired it and it was tumbling end over end as it flew, and I seem to remember it was sort of a pyrotechnic type round that blew up with sparks and flames everywhere... very much not like a normal 40mm grenade.
I guess with the drone in level flight the angle of the launchers means it will hit the ground at a known distance and if the drone has a laser range finder it would be quite accurate. Perhaps it uses an elongated HE Frag warhead for troops on the ground with a bit more HE and fragments than a standard grenade...
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There was talk about some "mine-laying" role, but mortar bombs are sometimes called mines in Russia.those look like 40mm grenades but rather longer.
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Speaking of 40mm grenade launchers,
So this is an adapter that can be inserted into a standard 40mm under barrel grenade launcher to allow buckshot shotgun rounds to be loaded and fired one at a time from a standard assault rifle.
It is shown used against a drone, but it could be the first knock knock to go into a trench or room... buckshot at that range from such a short barrel will have good spread and any one of those ball bearings is going to hurt.
Wont go through body armour but do serious damage to arms and legs and face... and of course have a good hit rate for drones at close range.
It means soldiers don't need to carry a shotgun and a rifle, but of course they would need to practise with them because the reload rate is not amazing.
Clever and simple and cheap and easy to deploy and use.
So this is an adapter that can be inserted into a standard 40mm under barrel grenade launcher to allow buckshot shotgun rounds to be loaded and fired one at a time from a standard assault rifle.
It is shown used against a drone, but it could be the first knock knock to go into a trench or room... buckshot at that range from such a short barrel will have good spread and any one of those ball bearings is going to hurt.
Wont go through body armour but do serious damage to arms and legs and face... and of course have a good hit rate for drones at close range.
It means soldiers don't need to carry a shotgun and a rifle, but of course they would need to practise with them because the reload rate is not amazing.
Clever and simple and cheap and easy to deploy and use.
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Experimental drone used by the Pacific Fleet by an exercise.
From an Project 20380.
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At the beginning of the tests, developers mine the area-they install mock-ups of anti-tank and anti-personnel mines and scatter deactivated "petal" mines in the grass. After that, they fence off the area with signal tape and begin to prepare the copter for flight.
- Light conditions are not important, but weather conditions affect the flight, there are restrictions — wind and precipitation, - explains Dmitry Shestakov, General Director of Optiplay Aerodynamics LLC (developer of the UAV-based complex). — It is also not recommended to search in wet ground, because its composition and permeability significantly change. The ideal option is dry and slightly windy weather.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
Tests begin with launching a special quadcopter into the air. It is equipped with equipment for conducting aerial photography using a high-resolution camera.
Before taking off, a special program builds a flight task for the drone. Then, at the signal of the operator, the copter rises into the sky and begins to shoot, moving from point to point along a given route.
At the end of the flight, sappers receive an orthophotoplane — a digital panorama of the area made up of a large number of high-resolution photos. The images obtained with its help allow you to see mines both on the ground and in the grass.
But the work of the aerial drone does not end there. It is equipped with a magnetometer and again lifted into the air.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
The developers explain that this span will allow detecting magnetic anomalies in the soil layer up to several meters, depending on the magnetic mass and depth.
Already at dusk, the stage of examining the mined area with a thermal imager begins.
The magnetometer and camera cannot detect all mines — difficulties, for example, arise with ammunition in a plastic case. Nature itself helps to find them.
"We focus on the magnetometric method, since most mines are magnetic," Alexey Malyshev, Executive Director of Complete Technology, tells Izvestia. — For non — magnetic mines, there is a thermal detection method-after sunset, mines remain warmer and can be clearly seen in thermal imagers.
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In the future, copters will be equipped with geoscaners. These devices detect non-magnetic mines placed in the ground layer, reacting to its heterogeneity.
The mine is not full-bodied, it has voids, so they are immediately visible, the developers explain. According to them, the technology is still "raw" — we need to work, test, implement, and learn.
Ground robot
At the same time, a special robotic platform for mine clearance was also tested — it was made on the basis of a commercial loader. Its task is to prepare the terrain before the sappers start working.
These lightweight robots use a rotary mechanism to grind the soil to a depth of about 10 cm, while destroying vegetation. Due to the robot's small size, anti-tank and large anti-personnel mines pose a danger to it.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
Therefore, according to the developers, with the help of data on the location of mines obtained from the quadcopter, the robot builds a route so as not to run over them.
Izvestia was shown the platform in action. Having laid the mine models in the ground, the developers launched the robot.
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At a speed of 5 km/h, it leaves behind a strip of soil about a meter wide cleared of grass and branches. The organizers explained that the grass hides mines and the sapper often has to kneel and cut it with special scissors. And all this has to be done in a protective suit, helmet and often in the sun. And the preliminary preparation of the site with the help of a robot will then facilitate the work of sappers.
"We focus on flat terrain. Most of the territories intended for agriculture are just like that," explains Alexey Malyshev.
Save people
"Drones make it possible to make demining work as safe as possible," says Dmitry Shestakov.
According to him, the quadcopter is needed for humanitarian demining, since the machine flies in automatic mode, using data from satellites for positioning.
"There are no satellites in combat conditions, so a different layout is needed, implying manual control by the operator," explains Dmitry Shestakov. "And in general, in the mode of hostilities, the conditions and tasks are slightly different, so it is necessary to refine and change the design of the complex.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
According to the developer, the complex allows you to identify objects from 100 mm in size at a depth of up to half a meter.
"The complex is just being developed, we are trying to improve accuracy, it is important. In the terms of reference, we have very high indicators, we will achieve them. At the moment, the mine is determined with an accuracy of about 20 cm," adds Alexey Malyshev.
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He is sure that new demining systems will be needed in the zone of the military special operation.
The developers expect that the new robotic equipment will increase the efficiency of the process and the speed of demining by 10-20 times, and most importantly, will ensure the safety of sappers as much as possible.
At the beginning of the tests, developers mine the area-they install mock-ups of anti-tank and anti-personnel mines and scatter deactivated "petal" mines in the grass. After that, they fence off the area with signal tape and begin to prepare the copter for flight.
- Light conditions are not important, but weather conditions affect the flight, there are restrictions — wind and precipitation, - explains Dmitry Shestakov, General Director of Optiplay Aerodynamics LLC (developer of the UAV-based complex). — It is also not recommended to search in wet ground, because its composition and permeability significantly change. The ideal option is dry and slightly windy weather.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
Tests begin with launching a special quadcopter into the air. It is equipped with equipment for conducting aerial photography using a high-resolution camera.
Before taking off, a special program builds a flight task for the drone. Then, at the signal of the operator, the copter rises into the sky and begins to shoot, moving from point to point along a given route.
At the end of the flight, sappers receive an orthophotoplane — a digital panorama of the area made up of a large number of high-resolution photos. The images obtained with its help allow you to see mines both on the ground and in the grass.
But the work of the aerial drone does not end there. It is equipped with a magnetometer and again lifted into the air.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
The developers explain that this span will allow detecting magnetic anomalies in the soil layer up to several meters, depending on the magnetic mass and depth.
Already at dusk, the stage of examining the mined area with a thermal imager begins.
The magnetometer and camera cannot detect all mines — difficulties, for example, arise with ammunition in a plastic case. Nature itself helps to find them.
"We focus on the magnetometric method, since most mines are magnetic," Alexey Malyshev, Executive Director of Complete Technology, tells Izvestia. — For non — magnetic mines, there is a thermal detection method-after sunset, mines remain warmer and can be clearly seen in thermal imagers.
Drones for growth: how uninhabited underwater vehicles develop
A number of countries are developing ultra-large marine drones
In the future, copters will be equipped with geoscaners. These devices detect non-magnetic mines placed in the ground layer, reacting to its heterogeneity.
The mine is not full-bodied, it has voids, so they are immediately visible, the developers explain. According to them, the technology is still "raw" — we need to work, test, implement, and learn.
Ground robot
At the same time, a special robotic platform for mine clearance was also tested — it was made on the basis of a commercial loader. Its task is to prepare the terrain before the sappers start working.
These lightweight robots use a rotary mechanism to grind the soil to a depth of about 10 cm, while destroying vegetation. Due to the robot's small size, anti-tank and large anti-personnel mines pose a danger to it.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
Therefore, according to the developers, with the help of data on the location of mines obtained from the quadcopter, the robot builds a route so as not to run over them.
Izvestia was shown the platform in action. Having laid the mine models in the ground, the developers launched the robot.
Burn the posts: a new series of floating drones is being developed in Russia
They will be useful in the destruction of bridges, crossings and dams, including on the Dnieper, experts are sure
At a speed of 5 km/h, it leaves behind a strip of soil about a meter wide cleared of grass and branches. The organizers explained that the grass hides mines and the sapper often has to kneel and cut it with special scissors. And all this has to be done in a protective suit, helmet and often in the sun. And the preliminary preparation of the site with the help of a robot will then facilitate the work of sappers.
"We focus on flat terrain. Most of the territories intended for agriculture are just like that," explains Alexey Malyshev.
Save people
"Drones make it possible to make demining work as safe as possible," says Dmitry Shestakov.
According to him, the quadcopter is needed for humanitarian demining, since the machine flies in automatic mode, using data from satellites for positioning.
"There are no satellites in combat conditions, so a different layout is needed, implying manual control by the operator," explains Dmitry Shestakov. "And in general, in the mode of hostilities, the conditions and tasks are slightly different, so it is necessary to refine and change the design of the complex.
Mine clearancePhoto: IZVESTIA
According to the developer, the complex allows you to identify objects from 100 mm in size at a depth of up to half a meter.
"The complex is just being developed, we are trying to improve accuracy, it is important. In the terms of reference, we have very high indicators, we will achieve them. At the moment, the mine is determined with an accuracy of about 20 cm," adds Alexey Malyshev.
It will not seem small: how the development of miniature missiles against drones is going
New products are available from manufacturers in Russia, China and the USA
He is sure that new demining systems will be needed in the zone of the military special operation.
The developers expect that the new robotic equipment will increase the efficiency of the process and the speed of demining by 10-20 times, and most importantly, will ensure the safety of sappers as much as possible.
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You would think the humanitarian west would be experts in the field of mine clearance and UXO disposal...
But they deliver... they don't take away...
But they deliver... they don't take away...
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Nice looking drone.
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Looks like the recon Camcopter S-100 but the Russian with better design to reduce RCS .
On Egyptian Mistral
On Egyptian Mistral
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Новая нейросеть Ростеха повысит дальность обнаружения БПЛА на 40%
Photo: Victor Molodtsov
The Central Research Institute "Cyclone" of the Ruselectronics holding has developed a neural network for optical means of detecting unmanned aerial vehicles, which will increase their range by 40%.
The neural network is designed to automate the operation of optical means of detecting drones that scan the sky around protected areas. Computer vision and artificial intelligence technologies are able to detect an aircraft in advance, classify it and, if a threat is detected, notify the operator for further measures to suppress the UAV. The neural network also allows you to transfer the drone counteraction system to a fully autonomous mode of operation.
The developers of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" used an ensemble of several optimized neural networks, which made it possible to achieve a cumulative effect from their use.
"The project implemented by machine learning specialists of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" has demonstrated high efficiency and potential for further development in the field of safety. According to our rough estimates, the created neural network is able to increase the range of UAV detection systems by about 40% compared to similar IT solutions. This technology can be used at various critical infrastructure facilities, as well as to protect private territory from illegal border violations," said Yuriy Koval, Technical Director of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone".
The team of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" created a neural network as part of a large-scale hackathon on the development of digital solutions for government agencies, businesses and regions "Leaders of Digital Transformation". The participants were tasked with developing an aerial object detector that would detect any flying object and classify it as a threat. The development of the team of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" was highly appreciated by experts and was awarded a prize at the end of the competition.
Новая нейросеть Ростеха повысит дальность обнаружения БПЛА на 40%
Photo: Victor Molodtsov
The Central Research Institute "Cyclone" of the Ruselectronics holding has developed a neural network for optical means of detecting unmanned aerial vehicles, which will increase their range by 40%.
The neural network is designed to automate the operation of optical means of detecting drones that scan the sky around protected areas. Computer vision and artificial intelligence technologies are able to detect an aircraft in advance, classify it and, if a threat is detected, notify the operator for further measures to suppress the UAV. The neural network also allows you to transfer the drone counteraction system to a fully autonomous mode of operation.
The developers of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" used an ensemble of several optimized neural networks, which made it possible to achieve a cumulative effect from their use.
"The project implemented by machine learning specialists of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" has demonstrated high efficiency and potential for further development in the field of safety. According to our rough estimates, the created neural network is able to increase the range of UAV detection systems by about 40% compared to similar IT solutions. This technology can be used at various critical infrastructure facilities, as well as to protect private territory from illegal border violations," said Yuriy Koval, Technical Director of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone".
The team of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" created a neural network as part of a large-scale hackathon on the development of digital solutions for government agencies, businesses and regions "Leaders of Digital Transformation". The participants were tasked with developing an aerial object detector that would detect any flying object and classify it as a threat. The development of the team of the Central Research Institute "Cyclone" was highly appreciated by experts and was awarded a prize at the end of the competition.
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Troops' eyes and ears: what Supercam S350 unmanned aerial system is capable of
Supercam S350 is one of the main reconnaissance drones in use in the special military operation zone. In the special military operation zone, the UAV plays the role of surveillance, reconnaissance, and targeting: eyes and ears of Russian servicemen.
S350 is the best way to receive high-precision data at any time of the day and in jamming conditions. The duration of the flight for up to 4.5 hours with the transmission of information up to 100 km provides the necessary reserve of facilities for the use of UAVs in the combat zone.
The main advantages of the vehicle are the speed at which the complex is deployed and launched, the high degree of resistance to the EW means and effective stable communication and transmission of video.
Among the features of the drone system are modular composite elements, interchangeable and combined payloads with unified hydrostabilised platforms, and a wing console detachment system during landing to prevent potential damage.
The drone has proved its effectiveness in the special military operation zone. The reconnaissance and gunners who perform tasks with the use of Supercam UAVs highly praise these 'birds'.
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Supercam S350 is one of the main reconnaissance drones in use in the special military operation zone. In the special military operation zone, the UAV plays the role of surveillance, reconnaissance, and targeting: eyes and ears of Russian servicemen.
S350 is the best way to receive high-precision data at any time of the day and in jamming conditions. The duration of the flight for up to 4.5 hours with the transmission of information up to 100 km provides the necessary reserve of facilities for the use of UAVs in the combat zone.
The main advantages of the vehicle are the speed at which the complex is deployed and launched, the high degree of resistance to the EW means and effective stable communication and transmission of video.
Among the features of the drone system are modular composite elements, interchangeable and combined payloads with unified hydrostabilised platforms, and a wing console detachment system during landing to prevent potential damage.
The drone has proved its effectiveness in the special military operation zone. The reconnaissance and gunners who perform tasks with the use of Supercam UAVs highly praise these 'birds'.
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New Russian loitering munition/ reconnaissance drone "Gerber"
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/117640
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/117640
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Vertical take off UAV from Sukhoi
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A UAV with the quality like this is what we expected from Sukhoi, unlike other UAVs look like made by the blacksmith from countryside.
BTW, Krepost, do you have the video? Obviously these are from a video.
BTW, Krepost, do you have the video? Obviously these are from a video.
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Of the UAV designs Sukhoi is reportedly working on the one I would most like to see is the S-62...
This is a model:
This is a model:
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