Russian Navy: Status and News #5

With a long-range sight: enemy ships will be noticed hundreds of kilometers away



Naval aviation will be connected to"killer" networks. The Navy will receive a unique automated control system (ACS). Thanks to the new technology, planes, helicopters and drones will be able to transmit and receive coordinates and parameters of targets from ships, submarines and ground-based surveillance systems in real time. After that, the detected enemy objects will be destroyed by all available means. Thus, according to experts, the fleet will be able to create continuous damage zones with an area of hundreds or even thousands of kilometers. This automated control system is particularly effective in the case of using hypersonic systems "Zircon"and " Dagger".

Naval aviation will be connected to"killer" networks. The Navy will receive a unique automated control system (ACS). Thanks to the new technology, planes, helicopters and drones will be able to transmit and receive coordinates and parameters of targets from ships, submarines and ground-based surveillance systems in real time. After that, the detected enemy objects will be destroyed by all available means. Thus, according to experts, the fleet will be able to create continuous damage zones with an area of hundreds or even thousands of kilometers. This automated control system is particularly effective in the case of using hypersonic systems "Zircon"and " Dagger".

Target designation network

As sources in the military Department told Izvestia, currently the automated control system for naval aviation (MA) is in a high degree of readiness. It is expected that its first samples will be delivered to the troops in the near future. According to the interlocutors of the publication, the novelty will combine information from various sources. The processed data will then be transmitted to the strike ships. Thanks to this interaction, the fleet will be able to create continuous damage zones with an area of hundreds or even thousands of kilometers.

Earlier, the head of the MA and air defense of the black sea fleet, Colonel Sergei Saushkin, said that in the coming years, radical changes will occur in the automated control system, which will improve the quality of management by an order of magnitude.

All modern and promising anti-ship missiles receive target designation and route before launch. They start looking for objects on their own only on the last leg of the flight, several tens of kilometers away. The ammunition includes its own relatively low-power homing head for this purpose for a short time.

"To bring a long — range weapon system to the target area, a certain accuracy is required," military expert Viktor Murakhovsky explained to Izvestia. - Missile homing heads are limited in range and in the angle at which they can recognize an object. Just firing into the sea towards the target is a pointless waste of expensive weapons. There are certain requirements for issuing target designation for pointing ammunition at ship groups and individual ships. Keep in mind that they do not stand still. A typical connection covers dozens of kilometers in an hour. Therefore, the command post should have up-to-date information that allows you to bring shock weapons to the target area.

According to the expert, that is why it is necessary to combine all the intelligence tools that are based in space, in the air, on ships and ground objects. They should collectively deal with the "opening" of ship groups. The unified information system ensures the operation of reconnaissance and strike circuits, Viktor Murakhovsky noted. And a variety of weapons systems can use reliable and up-to-date information from it: coastal missile systems, ship-based strike vehicles, and others.

For submarines, such a system will be especially relevant, former submarine commander Igor Kurdin told Izvestia.

— We use only the information that we "hear" with the help of sonar systems, and this is not a very long distance — - the expert explained. — Of course, we need a complete reconnaissance situation in as large a radius as possible, primarily in combat areas. Even in a submerged position, the command has the ability to call the submarine in case of an urgent need — including for transmitting intelligence. The aircraft's ability to collect information is much greater than that of a ship, but at the same time it has lower combat stability. Therefore, the detection and tracking system must be comprehensive.

Aviation modernization

As previously reported by Izvestia, the MA will soon receive Kinzhal hypersonic missile systems with a range of more than 1.5 thousand km. they will be the First to enter the Northern fleet. But the southern military district already has an experimental squadron of such aircraft. They regularly fly out on patrol over the Black and Caspian seas, and are used in exercises together with Tu-22M3 bombers carrying anti-ship missiles.

A program is also underway to expand the capabilities of the su-30SM multi-role naval aviation fighters. They will be able to use a wider range of long-range missiles, including the most powerful X-32.

Over the past eight years, AI has received 120 new and upgraded aircraft. Many of them are being re-equipped with a specialized computing subsystem SVP-24 "Hephaestus". It allows you to receive target designation from external sources and SNiP both surface and ground targets, even with unguided ammunition. It was reported that they were re-equipping the su-24M of the 43rd separate marine assault aviation regiment of the black sea fleet.

Earlier, the defense Ministry reported on the ongoing development of a new patrol aircraft, which should replace the anti-submarine Tu-142M3. Representatives of the AI also announced plans to receive promising deck-based drones and ship-based radar patrol aircraft in the period from 2021 to 2030. They will also be able to work with automated control systems.

The su-33 carrier-based fighters that were upgraded to the SVP-24 were used to attack ground targets of terrorists in Syria during the combat cruise of the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier in 2016. Tu-142M3 anti-submarine patrol aircraft were also seen in the Arab Republic, which are also equipped with this subsystem. They not only conducted reconnaissance, but also attacked extremist targets with bombs themselves.

Sea scouts

Since the advent of long-range anti-ship missiles, the Navy has had to solve the problem of targeting them. During the flight of subsonic ammunition to the maximum range, ships running at full speed could move several tens of kilometers and get out of the affected area. In order not to lose sight of the enemy and find him at a long distance, the aviation began to use reconnaissance aircraft with powerful radars.

The Tu-95RTS turboprop was a scout and target designator for anti-ship missiles during the cold war. They were designed on the basis of long-range strategic bombers and released in a series of 53 vehicles. A huge aircraft weighing more than 180 tons with a crew of nine people could monitor aircraft carrier strike groups from a distance of hundreds of kilometers. Their duration of patrolling in the air reached a day.

The Tu-95RK was used not only from the territory of the USSR. They also regularly patrolled from Soviet bases in Guinea, Vietnam, and Cuba. This made it possible to track the movement of NATO squadrons in the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian oceans. Such aircraft were actively used until the 1980s. Then they were gradually replaced by the space system of reconnaissance and target designation.

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The crew will conduct training in air defense, in the use of electronic warfare, in the fight for survivability, as well as in all-round defense and protection of the ship during the passage by sea and when parked in the unprotected roadstead.

"One of the stages of the exercise will be the development of the algorithm of the crew's actions with the conditional use of the ship's main missile system," the message says.

Isos wrote:Nakhimov is almost finished and they decided this now which could mean they are not happy with the upgrade.

Time and cost probably close to building a new cruiser.

PtG could end up being scraped too and a new class could arrive sooner than expected.

Rodion_Romanovic wrote:PtG has at least 20 years of service in front of her. It is possible that they could do a less extensive modernisation than the one for Admiral Nakhimov but it makes no sense to scrap it. Furthermore the shipyard involved with her overhaul/upgrade is not one of those that will be building new frigates (22350) destroyers (22350M) or nuclear cruisers (leader class) or the one that will be building aircraft carriers so it is just a matter of time and money.
Of course personnel and resources pay a role on this, but I believe PtG modernisation will not affect negatively the plans for building new long range ships.

lancelot wrote:...I doubt the modernization of PtG would take the same amount of time as the Nakhimov's. I wouldn't be surprised if they could do it in half the time.

miketheterrible wrote:When Russian Corvettes have better weapons than frigates of NATO, I would say they can compensate.

So long as Russia increases such Corvettes, frigates and subs (can be SSK's), they can project power. Especially if they station such ships at new established bases (Sudan and Syria).

Those big fancy ships are nice easy targets for anti ship missiles and drones.  So the Russians are going another route - small, fast and heavy puncher.  It will be cheaper and better in long run.  Big ships are nice to have in order to launch a bunch of missiles, but few of them is fine for Russia

They know that thing in and out and have been maintaining it perfectly 24/7

Plus they have upgrade instruction manual now, no more learning on the go

It's half the time easy

GarryB wrote:

It was the threat of the SSN that prevented Argentina from deploying their navy which made british SSNs very very valuable, but equally the Brits were rather constantly afraid the Argentinians would use their SSKs to try to sink ships and subs so their carriers hung back from the islands and continuously swept for subs to protect their carriers... most of the ships in their fleet had poor anti sub capability.

The Russian navy also has a problem with the small number of nuclear submarines. Russia currently has two modern 885 / M and a few 971,945 units. Additionally, several 949As. Compared to the US underwater fleet, this is not much.

Only 688I USA ships have 23 submarines, 688 submarines with VLS another 8. You can add the older 688Is. Russia only has a few submarines of tier 688I or better.

This group also includes 18 Virginia class and 3 Seawolf. This makes over 50 SSNs. When you count your allies, there's even more.

With such a disproportion, Western forces can mess up a lot even in the vicinity of Russia, especially the Arctic, Barents. Russia does not have the strength and means to fight such powerful SSN forces even in the vicinity of its territorial waters

Western SSNs may track and attempt to destroy Russian frigates and Corvettes operating in the northern waters. Such an advantage in the SSN may significantly hinder the Russian defensive actions in the areas of their borders and the protection of their SSBN.

I wonder if Russia will order more 885M submarines. It shouldn't end up in a series of 9 units.

Hole wrote:1. Half of the american subs are in urgent need of maintenance.
2. Most of these subs are bound to protect carriers/assauls ships.
3. They have to keep at least 2/3 of the subs to "protect" them against China, Iran and all those other evil-doers aound the world.

Putin supported the idea of ​​nationalizing defense enterprises that do not fulfill state defense orders


Today, a general agreement was signed between employers, trade unions and the government of the Russian Federation for a period until 2023. President Vladimir Putin also took part in the signing ceremony of this document. One of the topics that was discussed at the same time was the topic of the work of defense enterprises.

In particular, it was noted that there are still enterprises in the country that do not fully fulfill their obligations under the state defense order (SDO). As a result, when funds from government customers are fully transferred to the accounts of these enterprises, the state defense order is implemented with failures - the work can be postponed to a later date, not executed in full for the reporting period.

In such a situation, as the Kremlin press service notes, an idea was expressed about the possible nationalization of enterprises that do not ensure the fulfillment of the state defense order. Moreover, interestingly, such a proposal was made by the main FNPR (Federation of Independent Trade Unions of the Russian Federation) Mikhail Shmakov.

The Kremlin press service reports that President Vladimir Putin supported such a proposal.

According to the head of state, such a mechanism is possible in relation to malicious non-executors of the state defense order.

Thus, a kind of revision of the results of privatization is still possible. At this stage, we are talking about defense enterprises, the owners of which cannot actually fulfill their obligations to service orders from the state.

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