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    2023 Israel–Hamas war #4

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    Post  flamming_python Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:57 pm

    Hamas 'got so strong' because Israel did not withdraw from the West Bank and follow the peace plan and understandings with the Palestinian side that it reached in the early 90s when both sides accepted the other's borders. The Palestinians had already accepted Israel in its 1967 borders for the sake of lasting peace despite the fact that these same borders would handicap any sort of future Palestinian state.

    Furthermore Israel from approx. 2003-2023 was at the historical height of its power and was in a golden age of economic development and security relative to its neighbours. Israel had every opportunity to follow through with stopping colonization and then disbanding the settlements in return for its recognition by the rest of the Middle East. Regardless of Hamas or Hezbollah. They couldn't threaten Israel, or so it seemed, and by exercising good will and political wisdom Israel could isolate them.
    Why didn't it pursue this avenue? Who knows.
    You can blame Netanyahu but he's just the public face of a much wider, 'greater Israel' political movement.

    But what isn't a mystery to me at all is why radically-orientated forces cemented themselves in Gaza in turn. What would you have the Palestinians do, await the fate of the Red Indians?

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sun Jun 23, 2024 9:35 pm

    Right, the Zionism was a colonial project from the start; "divide & rule" method used by Israel isn't anything new, & it was made easier by the Arabs themselves who r fragmented (just like the Jews, btw) by their different religions & ethnic makeup.
    That the "radically-orientated forces cemented themselves in Gaza" is no mystery: many of their foot soldiers r the decendants of displaced Palestians that have nothing to lose; Hamas became the only credible force to maintain order & capable of defending the population, unlike the corrupt & anemic PA in the W. Bank. Now both Israeli & Palestinian civilans r paying the price.
    There is the Zion NP in the state of Utah, founded by the Mormons- perhaps creating a new enclave there for the Israelis will solve the problem! also Australia's interior needs people & development- the Israelis could turn that desert into a garden & the few Aboriginees still there can be moved again, if need be.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:38 am

    #Watch.. #ComingBackToYou.. Al-Quds Brigades present footage of its fighters targeting "Israeli" enemy soldiers and vehicles in the "Netzarim" axis, southwest of Gaza City.

    https://t.me/mmirlb/17729

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    Post  GarryB Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:39 pm

    Not sure the Australians want that, but I would say setting up a Jewish region in the US might be a great idea.

    There are of course already jewish autonomous regions in the Russian Federation, so jew claiming they have no place is BS...

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Jun 24, 2024 3:36 pm

    In fact the Jewish autonomous region in Russia is on record as claiming itself as a safe haven for Jews fleeing prosecution, and recently too. So there you go. Nice real estate next to China there. Yeah it's pretty swampy and the mosquitos are big, but then St. Petersburg was also built on a swamp and turned out swell.

    Anyway, I'm not arguing for disbanding Israel here. Yeah the Nakba and so on, but what's done is done - same as the Turks chased out the Greeks and Armenians, and India and Pakistan traded ethnic cleansings, Armenia and Azerbaijan, and so on.
    But they themselves have seemingly chosen a path of self-destruction and self-isolation, a full 75 years after their founding. Netanyahu and the rest of these nutters, and there are a lot of them, are seemingly living in a world of their own fictional narratives. Where this will all lead to I don't know. But there are places for Israelis to go if their own government goes mad and starts a war with the entirety of the Middle East.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:11 pm

    Well, well, well, so the US Joint Chiefs have woken up to the risk of widespread Iranian attacks if the US supports Israel in Lebanon.The realisation that US forces not only in the Med but also the Gulf and Syria and Iraq will be at risk.

    They seem to be moving to the position where Israel is not worth large US casualties and the ignominy of suncken warships and destroyed airbases.

    Now the Red Sea US carrier is in the middle of the Med heading home, there is another heading to the ME from the Far East but it could take 4 weeks and has to go through the gauntlet of the Houtis in the Straits to get into the Red Sea to presumably help Israel in the Med.

    Commander of the US army, General Charles Brown: "We will not be able to defend Israel in war with Hezbollah." 

    The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff warned that the US military would have difficulty protecting Israel in the event of a large-scale military confrontation with Hezbollah According to General Brown, Iran is increasingly inclined to enter into a direct war against Israel in the event that Tehran feels that Hezbollah is under a real threat 

    • Report: Alfi Militia fighters will arrive in Lebanon in the event of an all-out war.

    General Brown, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the US Army, said that the chances are increasing that Iran will choose to enter into a direct war with Israel in the event of a war between the IDF and Hezbollah. 

    According to him, Iran is more and more inclined to join the war if they fear that Hezbollah is threatened and in danger. These words add to previous assessments that Iran would be willing to take risks to ensure the survival of Hezbollah, which is considered its most important force in the Middle East.


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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:39 pm

    Al-Qassam (Hamas) published a video showing the successful targeting of an OFC military engineering vehicle with a “Red Arrow” guided missile (ATGM).

    The rescue forces were also targeted with the “Rajum” rocket system, west of the Tal Zorob area in Rafah, south of the Gaza Strip.


    https://t.me/qassambrigades/31207

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:40 pm

    ❗US aid drop destroys a tent in Gaza.

    A man in Gaza pleads to international organizations and countries distributing humanitarian aid to halt the dropping of aid boxes aerially due to the dangers it poses to Palestinians in the strip.

    At least 20 Palestinians have been killed in the aid drops on Gaza since the start of the aerial operation.

    https://t.me/FotrosResistance/7071

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:40 pm

    Yedioth Ahronoth (Ynet): Damage to a building in Metulla following Hezbollah’s attack last Saturday.

    Additionally, one of the injured in the Metulla attack yesterday underwent a 7-hour surgery, where the spleen was removed and the colon was shortened after his entire body was hit by shrapnel, in addition to being placed under anesthesia.

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:44 pm

    Now the Red Sea US carrier is in the middle of the Med heading home, there is another heading to the ME from the Far East but it could take 4 weeks and has to go through the gauntlet of the Houtis in the Straits to get into the Red Sea to presumably help Israel in the Med.
    FYI, the CVN-71 will take ~a week to get there & it'll stay in the Gulf of Aden/Red Sea- the 5th Fleet never sends carriers to the Med. Sea, unless they r going to the NPN shipyard in Virginia after the cruise.
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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:08 am

    Eugenio Argentina wrote: Al-Qassam (Hamas) published a video showing the successful targeting of an OFC military engineering vehicle with a “Red Arrow” guided missile (ATGM).

    The rescue forces were also targeted with the “Rajum” rocket system, west of the Tal Zorob area in Rafah, south of the Gaza Strip.


    https://t.me/qassambrigades/31207

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    Interesting , it's known that Namer CEV has Trophy APS but HJ-8L hit it.



    Meanwhile the zionists can't get enough of burning childrens.

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Jun 26, 2024 2:15 am

    🚫 Warning of heartbreaking images of children being burned
    And yet another crime by the Zionists

    A heartbreaking scene of targeting a school housing refugees, which resulted in the martyrdom of 8 people, including 3 children.

    https://t.me/defender_iran/42684

    cry

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Wed Jun 26, 2024 7:34 am

    https://www.juancole.com/2024/06/except-israels-netanyahu.html
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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:04 pm

    Al-Quds Brigades showcase footage of their fighters shelling enemy soldiers around the Rafah border crossing and the deployment of their vehicles near the Palestinian-Egyptian border south of Rafah.

    https://t.me/mmirlb/17827

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    Post  Tsavo Lion Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:43 am

    https://eng.globalaffairs.ru/articles/antisemitism-and-antizionism/

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:00 am


    The moment of explosive charge exploded on an israeli bulldozer near the Tawalba Mosque in Jenin Camp.

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    Post  ahmedfire Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:15 am


    Zionist sources: 3 difficult security incidents at the same time in the Gaza Strip, and the details are currently prohibited from being published.

    Details about the events in Gaza - Update:

    Two soldiers were killed in the Shujaiya neighborhood, and they were in critical condition (clinical death). An evacuation helicopter landed at Hadassah Hospital in two different events.

    Zionist websites:

    There are soldiers under the rubble in Shujaiya.
    ...

    Al-Qassam Brigades sniped and killed Sergeant “Eyal Shines” in the vicinity of the Shubaili Mosque, east of the city of Rafah.



    Number of bombs the United States has sent to Israel since October 7 :

    - At least 14,000 2,000-pound MK-84 bombs.
    - 6,500 500-pound MK-82 bombs.
    - 3,000 X Hellfire precision-guided air-to-surface missiles.
    – 1000 x bunker buster bombs. - 2,600 small diameter bombs dropped from the air.
    - Other unspecified ammunition.
    Source: Reuters
    https://x.com/ashrafnsier/status/1806941259585433773


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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:20 am


    After nine months of an organized genocide and intensive bombing on a limited area which is already under siege without supplies ,

    Still Hamas has underground facilities for weapons Smile

    https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1807440944095961502

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    Post  ahmedfire Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:47 am

    Al Qassam attacking zionists armored vehicles

    Lol one guy is playing on the swing , they are funny .

    https://x.com/ashrafnsier/status/1807765067800424487
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    Al-Quds Brigades blow up a Panther vehicle (Tiger Buzzard) in Nour Shams Camp this morning.

    One killed and one injury .
    https://x.com/ashrafnsier/status/1807878200585830624

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    Two dead in the "Netzarim" axis incident and 3 wounded, including one serious injury and another very serious injury.

    The israeli occupation army: 44 israeli soldiers were injured between Sunday and Monday, including 14 soldiers in the Gaza Strip.

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    Post  ahmedfire Wed Jul 03, 2024 8:11 am


    Two brave Al Qassam men run toward israeli tank and put explosive charges between the tower and body.

    Zionists are coward enough to leave their tanks and fight like real men .

    Full video
    https://x.com/TopGResistance/status/1808350559377727731

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    Post  ahmedfire Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:02 am

    Israeli soldier killed in mall stabbing attack.

    https://x.com/ashrafnsier/status/1808481457980989742

    Hebrew sources: The army announces the killing of a platoon commander in the Rotem Regiment in the Givati ​​Brigade, Captain Roy Miller, 21 years old, during battles in the Shujaiya neighborhood in Gaza City.

    https://x.com/ashrafnsier/status/1808727994166321305


    Captain Eli Elisha Logsi, 21 years old, from Kiryat Shmona, was killed in the battle in the northern Gaza Strip.

    https://x.com/ashrafnsier/status/1808588681957331170

    A Zionist force was ambushed inside a building it was barricaded inside in the Shujaiya neighborhood in Gaza City

    https://x.com/ashrafnsier/status/1808503115575877888

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    Post  Eugenio Argentina Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:58 pm

    The IOF terror group admits to 23 injuries in the past 24 hours, including injuries in the Gaza Strip as well as in the north.

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    Post  ahmedfire Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:28 am


    Zionists are terrorists.

    The moment the occupation aircraft committed the Khan Yunis massacre and bombed the entrance to Al-Awda School in the town of Abasan Al-Kabira



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    Post  kvs Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:06 pm

    The "children's hospital" psyop in Kiev is designed to distract from Israeli war crimes in addition to smearing Russia. It is all narrative management.

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