How to Fight Alcoholism in Russia

thats my question too you, we all know that russia has a big problem with alcoholism, a realy big one, goverment is taking actions but what do YOU think about it, are the actions hard enough?

and as the president how would you resolve this problem?

Isn't that the million ruble question. If you raise taxes, people just make poor quality and poison people. I think the best way is to raise incomes, that way people won't be so depressed all the time. You can't ban it.

i have a diffent opinon, the times firstly were th russian population started to drink soheavy is over, nothing is so desperate anymore of a situation in russia, and i say this as a big critic of russias economic situation an everythin else but the attitude towards drinking still haven't changed...

to let people just do as they like furthr and don't change anything and just hoping thatwith time they will come too sense agan is the most small-minded thing too do

im a proponent of a hard strategy against drinking, my plan would have about 4 steps to fight alcoholism in russia

1. increasing very significant anti-alcohol propaganda in all forms and banning all alcohol advertisement in al forms.
2. set the pricec for alcohol on european or better scandinavic niveau in a period of a year by increase its slowly every month
3. darmatic increase of penalties on illegal selling of alcohol, illegal producing of alcohol, selling under price
4.step would take palce in the same time as the first would be to create a big special foce in the militsya nation wide to pursue any criminals who not follow this rules, this special nation wide force would be 24/7 356 day a year be observed deaply and at the same time assisted by the FSB

my expirience and knowledge of our russian havealy drinking attitude and my personal knowledge of alcoholics says to me only such measures could and would fight effective alcoholism

my question was not metaphoric but a serious one, if you don't want to answer it then don't but i "surly" would watch russian TV and ther talkshows when i wanted to hear philosophical "bs" surrounding a question but never going in to it

People don't drink alcohol to be kool. Nor do they think it won't kill you. Every Russian knows the effects of it as it has effected all of our families. Advertising its bad effects is a waste of money. People drink it because they are depressed. Until you kill the reason for their depression, people will continue to drink. It is the easiest way to get high.

GarryB wrote:There is no cure for depression.
It is everywhere, not just in Russia, but then alcoholism is everywhere too.
There are drugs that can control the feelings of depression, but they can be just as addictive as alcohol.
The issue soon becomes which addiction is the least destructive and available.
I don't have the answers, but then I don't drink much either.

fact is that the problemm in russia is bigger then in the most other countrys and a LOT drink just becouse the want to drink, specialy when you look at the youth we in germany have here the same problemm the yout is drinking themselfs to death just becuse its cool to drink with friends till you can't walk and tel it the whole shool on monday...

thats why hard radical legislations must be applied like my concept, its sad the our goverment don't hve enough balls to drive a hard line

no, it would not be a problem, becouse they will not have a criminal record for drinking, they would have one for illegal producing, illigal selling or selling under price like is said, the concept is to make drinking a LOT more expenisve and to bring it under goverment control in fact of the pricec and sort of alcohol

if you want somthing complet and effectevly fought, specialy in russia on issues like this you have to go hard or go home

Teach them how to deal with there problems.I have a shity life but i don't drink ,smoke or take drugs.If you think that getting better wages will stop this you are mistaken.They will drink unless are forced or tout not to.
Russians hav had drinking problems for a long time now is feedback effect because nobody tried to solve this problem.

solo.13mmfmj wrote:Teach them how to deal with there problems.I have a shity life but i don't drink ,smoke or take drugs.If you think that getting better wages will stop this you are mistaken.They will drink unless are forced or tout not to.
Russians hav had drinking problems for a long time now is feedback effect because nobody tried to solve this problem.

You don't but plenty of people do. Depression is the leading gateway to alcoholism.

i think today the youth is the biggest problem, not becouse of depression but becouse to go and to fil yourself up with friends is a new lifstyle.... we have the same problem like already said in germany and look at the british youth... they are the most extrem lifestyle drinkers in europa

NationalRus wrote:i think today the youth is the biggest problem, not becouse of depression but becouse to go and to fil yourself up with friends is a new lifstyle.... we have the same problem like already said in germany and look at the british youth... they are the most extrem lifestyle drinkers in europa

The problem isn't the youth, the problem is fathers who drink their lives away while their children watch.

People always start drinking when society is unstable. They want to forget about their daily problems, so they start drinking. So for limiting alcoholism in RUssia, best way is to make society more stable and better level of life

milky_candy_sugar wrote:People always start drinking when society is unstable. They want to forget about their daily problems, so they start drinking. So for limiting alcoholism in RUssia, best way is to make society more stable and better level of life

nice talking but its bullshit

first how do you want to get a stable society, in comperesment to the 90's its stable like it was never befor!

second the most of you don't realise that drinkin has goten more and more to a lifestyle cult were its cool to drink yourself to the extrem with friends etc.

of course we must work as hard esnever befor to make our country a better place and a more devolopt society but to fight this drinking habits and to BREAK the drinking lifestyle only hard realy hard actions mut be made

we must approach this problem not like political correct philosophers but like a stratigic military style operation, thats how i see it and thats how i devolept my plan

for the russian speakers

РФ вводит минимальную цену на этиловый спирт - 59 рублей за литр
02:45 01/08/2010

МОСКВА, 1 авг - РИА Новости. Минимальная цена на производимый на территории РФ этиловый спирт из пищевого сырья устанавливается с 1 августа в размере 59 рублей за 1 литр.

Соответствующий приказ Росалкогольрегулирования зарегистрирован 13 июля 2010 года министерством юстиции РФ. Цена установлена на этиловый спирт из пищевого сырья, за исключением денатурированного этилового спирта, головной фракции этилового спирта и спирта-сырца.

С 1 января 2010 года в России приказом службы установлена минимальная цена на водку в размере 89 рублей за 0,5 литра.

С 1 июня Росалкогольрегулирование ввело минимальные цены на ликероводочную и другую алкогольную продукцию крепостью более 28% (за исключением водки) для розничной торговли. Минимальная цена на эту продукцию рассчитывается исходя из процентного содержания этилового спирта в напитке, цена одного градуса составляет 2,225 рубля. Получается, что ценовой минимум алкогольного напитка крепостью от 28,01% до 29% составит 65 рублей, а крепостью от 94,01% до 95% - 213 рублей.

С 1 июля установлена минимальная оптовая цена на водку, поставляемую производителем, в размере 70 рублей за 0,5 литра. Также с 1 июля установлена минимальная цена на водку, импортированную, либо произведенную на территории РФ, поставляемую организацией, закупившей ее у другой организации - в размере 77 рублей за 0,5 литра.

Для организаций, осуществляющих закупку у организаций-производителей, к цене организации-производителя в 70 рублей добавляется 10% (оптовая наценка) и получается 77 рублей, сообщали РИА Новости в ведомстве. В свою очередь, если к 77 рублям прибавить 15% (розничная наценка), то получается минимальная цена на водку в размере 89 рублей.

http://rian.ru/economy/20100801/260488664.html

Its an extremely difficult problem Firstly I only took US as a hub & a nurturing place for drug dealers; prostitutes; pedophiles & what not!!
But then some truth opened by eyes even for the mighty Russia whom I always have a deep respect. & the truths were



& many others about Russian children left lone by their alcoholic parents in the streets of Pittsburgh something like Newyork in US
Similar docs do exist 4 other countries but Russia tooo......
Now I have seen a dramatic increase in Russians copying US in one thing that they mustnt for the sake of their future generations & that is PORN INDUSTRY.
Have observed a tremendous increase in Russian sex few years from now & I think that is the worst thing that could happen. To make some money Russians are following the same US rule
"Get out of bed unless you can make money in bed'
& alas this is what happening out there.
I have read numerous articles that compares the annual revenue exceeding billions of dollars from US adult industry & I think thts what impressed the Russians or in other articles I have read many US people are involved in Russian adult business as they are the prime contractors & Russians be the subcontractors so much for freedom I think!!
Alcoholism & this bullshit can be single handedly stopped if one places other porn vistims in his sister/mother place!!
I am Pakistani & Muslim but let just think about humanity & no religion whatsoever be involved the only solution is atleast atleast adequate money for each citizen & most important at the same time public prosecution of these porn juggernauts
WOW WOW WOW killing ow.. that is inhumane;;;; my GOD plz dont be blind when these humanitarians who come along pleading for these porn rascals; only solution just kill them & think of the girls dragged into this nasty business as your sisters then killing won't be difficult for even the most HUMANE person

  

Selling vodka in Russia for 11 months fell by 6.8% - Rosstat

Russians have started drinking less, Golikova said, 07.24.2024.

Golikova: Annual alcohol consumption in Russia has decreased from 14 to 8 litres.

MOSCOW, July 24 - RIA Novosti. Alcohol consumption by Russians has decreased from 14 litres per person in 2009 to eight litres per year today, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova reported.

"We first started talking about the need to change our lifestyle as part of the first national project "Health" in 2009... When we started, alcohol consumption was almost 14 litres per person. Now it is just over eight litres," Golikova said during the plenary session of the "Healthy Society" forum.

She noted that the share of smokers decreased from 40% to less than 19% over the same period. Previously, bakery products, pasta, and sugar dominated the human diet. Vegetables and fruits were consumed little, which was also related to the standard of living of the population. According to the Deputy Prime Minister, bread consumption decreased by 9%. At the same time, the need to change the diet of Russians remains - it is necessary to increase the consumption of fish, vegetables, and fruits.

Golikova emphasized that the infrastructure of 484 health centers and over 4 thousand medical prevention offices will work to prolong a healthy and active life.

https://ria.ru/20240724/golikova-1961656073.html

The Ministry of Health reported how alcohol consumption has decreased in Russia, 07.31.2024.

Narcologist Lobacheva: alcohol consumption in Russia has decreased more than 2 times.

MOSCOW, July 31 - RIA Novosti. Alcohol consumption in Russia has been reduced more than twofold compared to 2010, Anna Lobacheva, a leading researcher at the Department of Clinical Narcology at the National Scientific Center for Narcology - a branch of the V.P. Serbsky National Medical Research Center of Psychiatry and Narcology of the Russian Ministry of Health, and a candidate of medical sciences, told RIA Novosti.

Earlier, the World Health Organization reported that alcohol consumption in Europe had decreased due to measures taken by Russia in this regard.

"By the beginning of the 2010s, the Russian Federation ranked fourth in the world in terms of overall alcohol consumption, 2.5 times higher than the world average and second only to several countries from the former USSR. Now, thanks to the highly effective methods of anti-alcohol policy implemented by the state, it has been possible to reduce alcohol consumption by more than 2 times," Lobacheva said.

She noted that since 2009, health centers have been actively developing in Russia, and new medical prevention offices have been created. An information campaign and large-scale work with the population to promote a healthy lifestyle have also been launched, Lobacheva specified.

According to her, even small doses of alcohol have a toxic effect on all organs and systems, contribute to the exacerbation of chronic pathologies and the development of new ones. Alcohol consumption in quantities dangerous to health is the cause of more than 60 diseases, as well as injuries that lead to significant loss of working capacity, premature death, and other socio-economic negative consequences, the specialist emphasized.

https://ria.ru/20240731/minzdrav-1963062362.html