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    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

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    Post  mack8 Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:45 pm

    Another lot (presumably the last from the 2008 contract- 4 aircraft?) of Su-34 transferred to VVS at NAPO:
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131216/984399598.html

    Report from Morozovsk
    http://dontr.ru/vesti/obshchestvo/3718800-voennye-letchiki-yuvo-osvaivayut-novyj-su-34-v-teorii-i-na-praktike
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    Post  George1 Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:09 pm

    mack8 wrote:Another lot (presumably the last from the 2008 contract- 4 aircraft?) of Su-34 transferred to VVS at NAPO:
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131216/984399598.html

    Report from Morozovsk
    http://dontr.ru/vesti/obshchestvo/3718800-voennye-letchiki-yuvo-osvaivayut-novyj-su-34-v-teorii-i-na-praktike

    well i had counted 35 before that, but even if there were 32 then with this delivery the number of 2008 order has been exceeded
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    Post  Viktor Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:33 pm

    "Dry" has completed the five-year government contract to supply Su-34 bombers Defense Ministry

    "This year is also expected to transfer the first two Air Force Su-34 under the contract of 2012, under which the Ministry of Defence buys a total of 92 machines."


    So by the end of 2013 we will have 34 Su-34 in Russian AF. 


    LINK - DIMA gives much higher number of Su-34 produced up to now!
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    Post  mack8 Mon Dec 16, 2013 7:41 pm

    Shouldn't there be the 34 to be delivered this year (32+2), PLUS 2 or 5 from the very first 18 aircraft contract-depending on how many of the five have been transferred to the 2008 contract (for 32 aircraft). So should be either 36 or 39 excluding any pre-serials, right ?
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    Post  zg18 Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:48 pm

    Number of Su-34s in service should be 40 or closer to it. 26 were in service by the end of 2012.
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    Post  George1 Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:59 pm

    zg18 wrote:Number of Su-34s in service should be 40 or closer to it. 26 were in service by the end of 2012.

    i think it was 28 by the end of last year and in 2013 we had 1+3+3 = 7 by now this year. 35 without the delivery today
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    Post  TR1 Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:15 pm

    Keep in mind those numbers on Dimmi's chart include pre-serials, most of which have been grounded for some time.
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    Post  Viktor Mon Dec 16, 2013 9:52 pm

    TR1 wrote:Keep in mind those numbers on Dimmi's chart include pre-serials, most of which have been grounded for some time.

    5 of those pre-serials are most likely used for testing as article above mentioned.

    Video of Su-34 arrival LINK
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:10 pm

    Viktor wrote:
    TR1 wrote:Keep in mind those numbers on Dimmi's chart include pre-serials, most of which have been grounded for some time.

    5 of those pre-serials are most likely used for testing as article above mentioned.

    Video of Su-34 arrival LINK

    no all these i mentioned arent pro-serials
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:11 pm

    It seems i am right, we have 38 delivered, 35 i said+last 3

    http://warfare.be/db/vvs/true/title/main-armaments-of-russian-air-force-and-naval-aviation/#1615
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    Post  mack8 Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:16 pm

    Report from Baltimor. Not sure if it is occasioned by the delivery of another lot (4?) to this base:
    http://vk.com/wall-6384628_21967
    http://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201312201312-pzr1.htm
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    Post  Viktor Tue Dec 24, 2013 12:24 pm

    The last of the Su-34 planned for this year - delivered to Russian army.  russia  attack  cheers  


    The military received the last bombers su-34, the GOZ-2013

    Now I want to see 12 Su-35 and two S-400 regiments delivered with 6 military satelites launched .....  Shocked  Very Happy
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    Post  TR1 Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:43 pm

    Straight outta hell:

    Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News - Page 12 468634_original
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:02 pm

    Viktor wrote:The last of the Su-34 planned for this year - delivered to Russian army.  russia  attack  cheers  


    The military received the last bombers su-34, the GOZ-2013

    Now I want to see 12 Su-35 and two S-400 regiments delivered with 6 military satelites launched .....  Shocked  Very Happy

    How many su-34s??
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    Post  George1 Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:12 pm

    at the end of 2012 we had 29 su-34 delivered. According to statements, this year should be delivered 14. So with the last we must be at 43 aircrafts

    http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newssukhoi-to-deliver-additional-su-34-aircraft-to-russian-air-force

    "The Russian Air Force (RuAF) will take delivery of 30 new Su-34 Fullback strike aircraft from Sukhoi by the end of 2014, the country's Ministry of Defence (MoD) has revealed.

    RIA Novosti reported the MoD as saying in a statement that, ''the current [2013] year plan on the delivery of 14 [Su-34] aircraft under the state defense order will be fulfilled, and the plant has promised to deliver another 16 fighter-bombers next year.'"
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    Post  Cyberspec Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:53 pm

    TR1 wrote:Straight outta hell:

    Wow Very Happy 
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    Post  calripson Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:32 am

    I remember the days under Boris Yeltsin when defense plants went months with out getting paid and the Russian defense industry might produce 2 or 3 planes a year which never went into front line units as they were one offs. The skies got rich though: Gusinsky, Berezovsky, Khodorkovsky, et al. The "west" was more than happy to watch Russia's technological, scientific, and military potential melt away. Then all of a sudden, this terrible autocratic guy Vladimir Putin came to power. Some how Russia went from an economic basket case with over 100% debt/GDP and creditors telling her to beg and roll over to amassing over 100 billion dollar in a reserve fund and with paid off foreign creditors and a debt/GDP ratio of 10%. Of course increasing oil and gas prices helped, but changing tax rates and collecting taxes on that oil and gas post Yukos is what really made the difference. Putin also promised to rebuild Russia's technological/military base and he was met with derision from experts like Golts who applauded every failed Russia military test and who boldly stated that Russia had fallen inexorably behind and should content herself to a small, domestically oriented military.

    ..and here we are today. Of course Russians, as their history demonstrates, are idealists and obsequious anarchists at heart. "We can do better than this terrible Putin" they cry, conveniently forgetting their not to distant past. Who remembers the scathing rebukes of 1989 when liberal protestors mocked the idea that the "west" support for Gorbachev would somehow lead to a fragmentation of the USSR and a precipitous decline in living standards. That was "communist propaganda".

    2013: Enter Navalny, the tall, handsome Yale educated lawyer right out of Madison Avenue central casting - waiting in the wings to "fix" the corruption of Putin. The hope of a new generation of urbanites. But beware what you wish for my upwardly mobile Russian friends. You are much more likely to suffer the consequences of your dashed desires than the fulfillment of your hopes.
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    Post  TR1 Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:17 pm

    Apparently the new Su-34s are back in the original baby blue scheme Sad . With white trim, but overall, ugh. I liked the dark scheme more, wonder why they can't standardize on the good looking Su-35 blue....
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Dec 25, 2013 10:34 pm

    TR1 wrote:Apparently the new Su-34s are back in the original baby blue scheme Sad. With white trim, but overall, ugh. I liked the dark scheme more, wonder why they can't standardize on the good looking Su-35 blue....

    I love the blue/turquoise painting on the Su-34 looks elegant.
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    Post  mack8 Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:33 pm

    6 more Su-34 ferried (or will shortly be so, can't make the translation) to Morozovsk. Presumably, this refers to the 4 remaining from the 2013 order which were formally accepted at NAPO recently, plus 2 from the 2014 one (accepted and delivered ahead of schedule), thus making 16 Su-34 delivered this year?
    This would make 9 Su-34 at Morozovsk so far?
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131226/986534888.html
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    Post  Viktor Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:33 pm

    mack8 wrote:6 more Su-34 ferried (or will shortly be so, can't make the translation) to Morozovsk. Presumably, this refers to the 4 remaining from the 2013 order which were formally accepted at NAPO recently, plus 2 from the 2014 one (accepted and delivered ahead of schedule), thus making 16 Su-34 delivered this year?
    This would make 9 Su-34 at Morozovsk so far?
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20131226/986534888.html

    In some of my previoous posts I calculated that Su-34 is being produced at higher rate than needed to accomplish 124 Su-34 ordered by 2020. Now you @mack tell us that 

    they produced 2 Su-34 more than that was planned which is a very good news and if we remember Russian MoD ordered 184 IFF for Su-34 which also leaned the story that more 

    than 124 Su-34 will be produced by 2020. And now here comes the big news. 

    Su-34 park may reach 200 aircraft

    because of this:  “Since 2015 the plant is planning to produce 20 aircraft per year,” Bondarev said.  Laughing  Laughing 

    and from interfax military:

    Russian Air Force may enlarge Su-34 bomber fleet to 150-200
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    Post  Austin Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:53 pm

    Su-34 carrying 12T of Weapons :cool:

    Bondarev: The Su-34 is much better than its predecessor

    Sukhoi Su-34 is much better than their predecessors, the Su-24 and Su-24M is not expended its resources, said Russian Air Force Commander Lt. Gen. Viktor Bondarev.

    "We Sukhoi Su-24 bomb load - 7.5 tonnes during combat radius of about 350 kilometers. Su-34 carries 12 tons of various weapons and combat radius of it - more than a thousand kilometers," - said Bondarev on Thursday during a visit Novosibirsk aircraft plant holding "Dry", which produce the Su-34.

    Commander noted that much better sighting system and the Su-34. "The Su-24, for example, provides precision bombing in the range of 20-30 meters from the center of the goal. Su-34 solves similar problems with the accuracy of 5-7 meters from the center of the target, or a direct hit," - said Bondarev, noting that due to the established Su-34 bomb equipment becomes precision weapons.

    According to the commander, the Su-24M "is not used up their resources." "We will still operate them," - he said.

    Earlier it was reported that the Su-24 fully withdraw from service until 2020.
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    Post  Austin Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:03 pm

    This would solve the MTOW of 45T for Su-34 .... so its payload is 4 T more than Su-30/Su-35
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    Post  TR1 Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:04 pm

    It's been known for a while that Su-34 can take off with no problem, with 12 ton payload. Veeeery slowly of course Smile .
    Normal certified amount is 8 tons AFAIK though.
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    Post  Austin Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:21 pm

    Atleast its officially confirmed now by RuAF chief and I was not aware of 12T payload , I used to wonder why it has 45 T MTOW.

    Even Su-30SM/MKI with 8T payload would be slow mover ..... eventually Su-34 will be certified to carry Kh-101 is what Air Chief said last year.

    I can just imagine a Su-34 carrying 3 Kh-101 with range of 4500 km Smile

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