Su-34 Tactical Bomber: News

George1 wrote:Some conflicting points, maybe AMCXXL could help

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

AMCXXL wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3334146.html
The deployment of Su-34 to Chelyabinsk airbase has begun
Three airplanes just landed in Chelyabinsk airfield.
Of these three airplanes, Nº08 was already transferred to the VKS in May, and had been in Lípetsk until now.

In addition also have arrived the Nº09 and the Nº10 that at the end of August were still in the factory of Novosibirsk, therefore in number of airplanes transferred to the VKS in September it is of 2, which raises to 111 the number of serial aircraft in service

Also i have counted 6 planes delivered for 2018, not 8. Maybe they count for 2018 the 2 planes in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 delivered in early January?

AMCXXL wrote:

George1 wrote:Sukhoi transferred a 1st batch of Su-34 aircraft to the Russia MoD in 2018. Aircraft took off from the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant V.P. Chkalov airport (Tolmachevo) & flew to the site of their deployment.

http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=5954

The Sukhoi Company has transferred the next generation of new serial front-line bombers Su-34

Moscow, January 12, 2018. Today, the company "Sukhoi" transferred the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation the next batch of Su-34 front bombers in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 . The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment


This are the two "lost" airplanes of the plan of 2017 that are transferred with several days of delay. (the administrative act of acceptance of the product was in December within the term of the calendar year of whose planning they are part)
Better not to make much case of bmpd that copy of Russian forums but copy wrong

The No. 35 and No. 36 returned from Syria at the end of December, they are not the new airplanes handed over on November 18. There was a rotation of airplanes between those deployed in Syria

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

Labrador wrote:

George1 wrote:Some conflicting points, maybe AMCXXL could help

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

AMCXXL wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3334146.html
The deployment of Su-34 to Chelyabinsk airbase has begun
Three airplanes just landed in Chelyabinsk airfield.
Of these three airplanes, Nº08 was already transferred to the VKS in May, and had been in Lípetsk until now.

In addition also have arrived the Nº09 and the Nº10 that at the end of August were still in the factory of Novosibirsk, therefore in number of airplanes transferred to the VKS in September it is of 2, which raises to 111 the number of serial aircraft in service

Also i have counted 6 planes delivered for 2018, not 8. Maybe they count for 2018 the 2 planes in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 delivered in early January?

AMCXXL wrote:

George1 wrote:Sukhoi transferred a 1st batch of Su-34 aircraft to the Russia MoD in 2018. Aircraft took off from the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant V.P. Chkalov airport (Tolmachevo) & flew to the site of their deployment.

http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=5954

The Sukhoi Company has transferred the next generation of new serial front-line bombers Su-34

Moscow, January 12, 2018. Today, the company "Sukhoi" transferred the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation the next batch of Su-34 front bombers in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 . The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment


This are the two "lost" airplanes of the plan of 2017 that are transferred with several days of delay. (the administrative act of acceptance of the product was in December within the term of the calendar year of whose planning they are part)
Better not to make much case of bmpd that copy of Russian forums but copy wrong

The No. 35 and No. 36 returned from Syria at the end of December, they are not the new airplanes handed over on November 18. There was a rotation of airplanes between those deployed in Syria

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

I think you don't include one lost to Voronej IIRC or damaged ? in this case 120 in service with pre-series
here at the end 121 delivered with 7 pre-series :

Both transferred now to the 2nd bomber regiment of the Su-34 aircraft manufactured by the NAZ under a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense dated February 2012 for 92 such aircraft. With their delivery, the total number of aircraft of this type transferred to the VKS under the contract of 2012 reached 78 units. The first two Su-34s under this contract were transferred to Novosibirsk by the Russian Air Force on December 24, 2013, the next 18 aircraft - in 2014, another 18 aircraft - in 2015, 16 - in 2016, 16 - in 2017, and to the present time eight - in 2018. In total, in 2018, the delivery of 12 new Su-34 bombers is expected. The total number of Su-34s built under all contracts, including seven prototypes and pre-production samples, has now reached 121 units
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3382411.html

AMCXXL wrote:

Labrador wrote:

George1 wrote:Some conflicting points, maybe AMCXXL could help

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

AMCXXL wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3334146.html
The deployment of Su-34 to Chelyabinsk airbase has begun
Three airplanes just landed in Chelyabinsk airfield.
Of these three airplanes, Nº08 was already transferred to the VKS in May, and had been in Lípetsk until now.

In addition also have arrived the Nº09 and the Nº10 that at the end of August were still in the factory of Novosibirsk, therefore in number of airplanes transferred to the VKS in September it is of 2, which raises to 111 the number of serial aircraft in service

Also i have counted 6 planes delivered for 2018, not 8. Maybe they count for 2018 the 2 planes in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 delivered in early January?

AMCXXL wrote:

George1 wrote:Sukhoi transferred a 1st batch of Su-34 aircraft to the Russia MoD in 2018. Aircraft took off from the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant V.P. Chkalov airport (Tolmachevo) & flew to the site of their deployment.

http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=5954

The Sukhoi Company has transferred the next generation of new serial front-line bombers Su-34

Moscow, January 12, 2018. Today, the company "Sukhoi" transferred the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation the next batch of Su-34 front bombers in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 . The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment


This are the two "lost" airplanes of the plan of 2017 that are transferred with several days of delay. (the administrative act of acceptance of the product was in December within the term of the calendar year of whose planning they are part)
Better not to make much case of bmpd that copy of Russian forums but copy wrong

The No. 35 and No. 36 returned from Syria at the end of December, they are not the new airplanes handed over on November 18. There was a rotation of airplanes between those deployed in Syria

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

I think you don't include one lost to Voronej IIRC or damaged ? in this case 120 in service with pre-series
here at the end 121 delivered with 7 pre-series :

Both transferred now to the 2nd bomber regiment of the Su-34 aircraft manufactured by the NAZ under a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense dated February 2012 for 92 such aircraft. With their delivery, the total number of aircraft of this type transferred to the VKS under the contract of 2012 reached 78 units. The first two Su-34s under this contract were transferred to Novosibirsk by the Russian Air Force on December 24, 2013, the next 18 aircraft - in 2014, another 18 aircraft - in 2015, 16 - in 2016, 16 - in 2017, and to the present time eight - in 2018. In total, in 2018, the delivery of 12 new Su-34 bombers is expected. The total number of Su-34s built under all contracts, including seven prototypes and pre-production samples, has now reached 121 units
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3382411.html

The number of 121 is refered to the number of airframes built (T-10B-121 is the hukk number of the last machine)

There are 113 serial Su-34 in service

The other 7 are prototypes and also one airframe was built for static test in the begining of Su-34 program, in the USSR times
Of the 7 prototypes, theorycally 2 are still in use by NAPO and one is used by the Vorónezh Aeronautical Engeniering University, the other 4  were decomisioned a lot of years ago

Labrador wrote:

AMCXXL wrote:

Labrador wrote:

George1 wrote:Some conflicting points, maybe AMCXXL could help

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

AMCXXL wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3334146.html
The deployment of Su-34 to Chelyabinsk airbase has begun
Three airplanes just landed in Chelyabinsk airfield.
Of these three airplanes, Nº08 was already transferred to the VKS in May, and had been in Lípetsk until now.

In addition also have arrived the Nº09 and the Nº10 that at the end of August were still in the factory of Novosibirsk, therefore in number of airplanes transferred to the VKS in September it is of 2, which raises to 111 the number of serial aircraft in service

Also i have counted 6 planes delivered for 2018, not 8. Maybe they count for 2018 the 2 planes in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 delivered in early January?

AMCXXL wrote:

George1 wrote:Sukhoi transferred a 1st batch of Su-34 aircraft to the Russia MoD in 2018. Aircraft took off from the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant V.P. Chkalov airport (Tolmachevo) & flew to the site of their deployment.

http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=5954

The Sukhoi Company has transferred the next generation of new serial front-line bombers Su-34

Moscow, January 12, 2018. Today, the company "Sukhoi" transferred the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation the next batch of Su-34 front bombers in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 . The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment


This are the two "lost" airplanes of the plan of 2017 that are transferred with several days of delay. (the administrative act of acceptance of the product was in December within the term of the calendar year of whose planning they are part)
Better not to make much case of bmpd that copy of Russian forums but copy wrong

The No. 35 and No. 36 returned from Syria at the end of December, they are not the new airplanes handed over on November 18. There was a rotation of airplanes between those deployed in Syria

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

I think you don't include one lost to Voronej IIRC or damaged ? in this case 120 in service with pre-series
here at the end 121 delivered with 7 pre-series :

Both transferred now to the 2nd bomber regiment of the Su-34 aircraft manufactured by the NAZ under a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense dated February 2012 for 92 such aircraft. With their delivery, the total number of aircraft of this type transferred to the VKS under the contract of 2012 reached 78 units. The first two Su-34s under this contract were transferred to Novosibirsk by the Russian Air Force on December 24, 2013, the next 18 aircraft - in 2014, another 18 aircraft - in 2015, 16 - in 2016, 16 - in 2017, and to the present time eight - in 2018. In total, in 2018, the delivery of 12 new Su-34 bombers is expected. The total number of Su-34s built under all contracts, including seven prototypes and pre-production samples, has now reached 121 units
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3382411.html

The number of 121 is refered to the number of airframes built (T-10B-121 is the hukk number of the last machine)

There are 113 serial Su-34 in service

The other 7 are prototypes and also one airframe was built for static test in the begining of Su-34 program, in the USSR times
Of the 7 prototypes, theorycally 2 are still in use by NAPO and one is used by the Vorónezh Aeronautical Engeniering University, the other 4  were decomisioned a lot of years ago

oh ! thinking prototypes to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk for flight and weapons tests 

But this one from Voroneg damaged or very and repaired or lost ?

And please how many birds to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk ? i see here various numbers…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Су-34

kumbor wrote:

Labrador wrote:

AMCXXL wrote:

Labrador wrote:

George1 wrote:Some conflicting points, maybe AMCXXL could help

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

AMCXXL wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3334146.html
The deployment of Su-34 to Chelyabinsk airbase has begun
Three airplanes just landed in Chelyabinsk airfield.
Of these three airplanes, Nº08 was already transferred to the VKS in May, and had been in Lípetsk until now.

In addition also have arrived the Nº09 and the Nº10 that at the end of August were still in the factory of Novosibirsk, therefore in number of airplanes transferred to the VKS in September it is of 2, which raises to 111 the number of serial aircraft in service

Also i have counted 6 planes delivered for 2018, not 8. Maybe they count for 2018 the 2 planes in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 delivered in early January?

AMCXXL wrote:

George1 wrote:Sukhoi transferred a 1st batch of Su-34 aircraft to the Russia MoD in 2018. Aircraft took off from the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant V.P. Chkalov airport (Tolmachevo) & flew to the site of their deployment.

http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=5954

The Sukhoi Company has transferred the next generation of new serial front-line bombers Su-34

Moscow, January 12, 2018. Today, the company "Sukhoi" transferred the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation the next batch of Su-34 front bombers in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 . The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment


This are the two "lost" airplanes of the plan of 2017 that are transferred with several days of delay. (the administrative act of acceptance of the product was in December within the term of the calendar year of whose planning they are part)
Better not to make much case of bmpd that copy of Russian forums but copy wrong

The No. 35 and No. 36 returned from Syria at the end of December, they are not the new airplanes handed over on November 18. There was a rotation of airplanes between those deployed in Syria

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

I think you don't include one lost to Voronej IIRC or damaged ? in this case 120 in service with pre-series
here at the end 121 delivered with 7 pre-series :

Both transferred now to the 2nd bomber regiment of the Su-34 aircraft manufactured by the NAZ under a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense dated February 2012 for 92 such aircraft. With their delivery, the total number of aircraft of this type transferred to the VKS under the contract of 2012 reached 78 units. The first two Su-34s under this contract were transferred to Novosibirsk by the Russian Air Force on December 24, 2013, the next 18 aircraft - in 2014, another 18 aircraft - in 2015, 16 - in 2016, 16 - in 2017, and to the present time eight - in 2018. In total, in 2018, the delivery of 12 new Su-34 bombers is expected. The total number of Su-34s built under all contracts, including seven prototypes and pre-production samples, has now reached 121 units
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3382411.html

The number of 121 is refered to the number of airframes built (T-10B-121 is the hukk number of the last machine)

There are 113 serial Su-34 in service

The other 7 are prototypes and also one airframe was built for static test in the begining of Su-34 program, in the USSR times
Of the 7 prototypes, theorycally 2 are still in use by NAPO and one is used by the Vorónezh Aeronautical Engeniering University, the other 4  were decomisioned a lot of years ago

oh ! thinking prototypes to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk for flight and weapons tests 

But this one from Voroneg damaged or very and repaired or lost ?

And please how many birds to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk ? i see here various numbers…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Су-34

kumbor wrote:

kumbor wrote:

Labrador wrote:

AMCXXL wrote:

Labrador wrote:

George1 wrote:Some conflicting points, maybe AMCXXL could help

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

AMCXXL wrote:https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3334146.html
The deployment of Su-34 to Chelyabinsk airbase has begun
Three airplanes just landed in Chelyabinsk airfield.
Of these three airplanes, Nº08 was already transferred to the VKS in May, and had been in Lípetsk until now.

In addition also have arrived the Nº09 and the Nº10 that at the end of August were still in the factory of Novosibirsk, therefore in number of airplanes transferred to the VKS in September it is of 2, which raises to 111 the number of serial aircraft in service

Also i have counted 6 planes delivered for 2018, not 8. Maybe they count for 2018 the 2 planes in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 delivered in early January?

AMCXXL wrote:

George1 wrote:Sukhoi transferred a 1st batch of Su-34 aircraft to the Russia MoD in 2018. Aircraft took off from the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant V.P. Chkalov airport (Tolmachevo) & flew to the site of their deployment.

http://www.sukhoi.org/news/company/?id=5954

The Sukhoi Company has transferred the next generation of new serial front-line bombers Su-34

Moscow, January 12, 2018. Today, the company "Sukhoi" transferred the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation the next batch of Su-34 front bombers in the framework of the state defense order of 2017 . The aircraft took off from the aerodrome of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. V.P. Chkalov and went to the site of his deployment


This are the two "lost" airplanes of the plan of 2017 that are transferred with several days of delay. (the administrative act of acceptance of the product was in December within the term of the calendar year of whose planning they are part)
Better not to make much case of bmpd that copy of Russian forums but copy wrong

The No. 35 and No. 36 returned from Syria at the end of December, they are not the new airplanes handed over on November 18. There was a rotation of airplanes between those deployed in Syria

With the last delivered in early September the total number was 111, so now should be 113 not 121-7=114 that article says.

I think you don't include one lost to Voronej IIRC or damaged ? in this case 120 in service with pre-series
here at the end 121 delivered with 7 pre-series :

Both transferred now to the 2nd bomber regiment of the Su-34 aircraft manufactured by the NAZ under a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense dated February 2012 for 92 such aircraft. With their delivery, the total number of aircraft of this type transferred to the VKS under the contract of 2012 reached 78 units. The first two Su-34s under this contract were transferred to Novosibirsk by the Russian Air Force on December 24, 2013, the next 18 aircraft - in 2014, another 18 aircraft - in 2015, 16 - in 2016, 16 - in 2017, and to the present time eight - in 2018. In total, in 2018, the delivery of 12 new Su-34 bombers is expected. The total number of Su-34s built under all contracts, including seven prototypes and pre-production samples, has now reached 121 units
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3382411.html

The number of 121 is refered to the number of airframes built (T-10B-121 is the hukk number of the last machine)

There are 113 serial Su-34 in service

The other 7 are prototypes and also one airframe was built for static test in the begining of Su-34 program, in the USSR times
Of the 7 prototypes, theorycally 2 are still in use by NAPO and one is used by the Vorónezh Aeronautical Engeniering University, the other 4  were decomisioned a lot of years ago

oh ! thinking prototypes to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk for flight and weapons tests 

But this one from Voroneg damaged or very and repaired or lost ?

And please how many birds to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk ? i see here various numbers…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Су-34

You are not obliged to know russian well to post on this forum, but, please, have in mind basic regulations of  english transcription. Aktoubinsk, is Akhtoubinsk, and Voroneg is Voronezh

Labrador wrote:
oh ! thinking prototypes to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk for flight and weapons tests 

But this one from Voroneg damaged or very and repaired or lost ?

And please how many birds to Lipetsk and Aktoubinsk ? i see here various numbers…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-34
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Су-34

Please stop quoting each other.

Tsavo Lion wrote:Russia Pursues ISR And Electronic Warfare Versions Of Su-34

hoom wrote:Oh , 6* Kh-31?!

The other day UK put out some video of when HMS Duncan was hanging out just outside territorial waters off Sevastopol last year & they were shocked about being buzzed by 17 Russian planes (mostly Su-24 from the looks) basically saying 'fuck off'.
The captain was like 'their tactics are pretty naive, they have 17 planes, we have 48 missiles, I think we'd win'

I couldn't find explicit confirmation of how many Kh-31 an Su-24 carries but assuming 2* Kh-31 per Su-24 my thought was 'uh thats like 34 simultaneous supersonic missiles not including any ground launched ones, you really think you gonna survive that?'  

So even if a Type 45 can actually successfully hit 34* Kh-31s simultaneously with 1 missile each, it only takes a couple of Su-34s in that mix to bump it up over 48...

BTW @ HOOM, what is the engagement range of those 48 British missiles?

GarryB wrote:Seawolf could shoot down artillery shells... there would be no way a missile like Exocet could get through... the British had that missile in service and could train against it if they wanted as well.

Of course the Seawolf system didn't work when they were using satellite communications... because it interfered with the signal so they turned it off while receiving instructions from London... that is how the Sheffield was hit.

And of course the Russians could use jammers and other methods to defeat enemy ships near their waters...


I remember in the early 1980s when the British were trying to explain all the ship losses they incurred after being so confident that they would not lose any ships... the press release if I remember correctly stated that the problem was the sea skimming nature of the Exocet is the feature that made it so deadly, but rest assured that the Soviet navy has not got anything like the Exocet so the British navy is perfectly safe.

Ironically 1982 was the year the Sovremenny class destroyers entered service with Moskit missiles flying at mach 2 at less than 7m flight altitude intended to penetrate the defences of AEGIS class cruisers of the time...