Vympel wrote:
I don't see what the above aircraft designations have to do with tank designations. What evidence do you have of their actually being such a thing as "T-72BV"? The only sources I've ever seen claim that are Western sources - every Russian source I've seen has indicated there's no such thing.
It is called GRAU Index the military designation for military equipment, what you know are the advertizment designations for the vehicles, research before down voting a post where it is clearly described what this designation means. Russia has no such thing as T-72B3 they all have GRAU Index designations T-72BM3V or T-72BV3 one of these designations is the actual grau index designation and not T-72B3, that is common designation around soldiers and developers. BV (V stands for Vzryv, explosions) AD like on T-55AD the A is the serial first model protection designation and the D stands for Drozd the APS and all designations have their letters which indicates what equipment they use. Commanding vehicles with special combat management systemes and communication systemes are mostly designated with K = Kommanda, like T-90AK and T-72AK. But of course you have no plan about Grau index.
Vympel wrote:I know full well that the T-72M and T-72M1 are designations for export variants. That's why I said:
"that article refers to T-72M upgrades - as in their export upgrade options"
That's why a proposed modernization of the T-72M1 is called T-72M1M for example.
That is also not always true. M means modernized and there are two batches of M models like the export Monkey Models Arabic countries usually have and the actual M versions that were used inside Russia they were labeled as M both export models which were built buy Poland and Czech., the designation was used as an advertizement for export while the fact was that the russian M's were really modernized and the export variants were watered models.
Those M's today are actually upgraded and on A+ status of T-72A/B and in some cases depends on orders of customer they even have TIS which most russian older A models don't have.
Vympel wrote:As an aside, its bizarre for an Su-35S to be called Su-27SM3. Su-27SM3 is a seperate aircraft so far as I know - an upgraded version of fresh Su-27 airframes originally intended for China.
Wrong, Su-35 is the designation from the company sukhoi, while Su-27SM2/SM3 are the Grau index designation, research grau index designations before commenting.
Vympel wrote:T-72B2 hasn't been purchased so far as I know.
I've read that says there are some, not many but some in forces, maybe on gurkhans site.
Vympel wrote:I didn't say Relikt doesn't exist for upgrading, I said that so far as I was aware, no vehicle actually in service in the Russian army uses it yet. So if its "in service", that's only in the sense that its been accepted for service. There's no vehicles that actually use it yet, as far as I know.
Of the vehicles you mention:
T-72B2 "Rogatka" was never purchased;
T-72B3 is clearly equipped with K-5, not Relikt;
T-90MS/AM will (probably) not ever be purchased by Russia; and
BMPT not purchased by Russia, but purchased by other countries.
The first time Russia gets a tank with Relikt ERA will either be a new T-72B upgrade (T-72B4?) or when the Armata enters service.
Relikt is in use and not just accepted.
Algeria has already relikt on ther T-72M1.
http://gurkhan.blogspot.de/2014/03/blog-post_8.html
Algerian T-72M1 with Relikt, can be seen on upper glacis ERA configuration.
Another point there is a IFV version of Relikt already in use of BMP-3's., so your claim is clearly wrong that relikt is not in use.
BMP-3 relikt grau index designation is 4S24M /4S25
http://gurkhan.blogspot.de/2012/01/5-2011-90.html
The specialists of the Research Institute were tasked to develop the appropriate armor protection complex. As a result, the RELIKT complex of the frontal armor protection was developed and entered service. Also developed were the reactive-armor special modules which were initially developed to protect the thin-armored BMP-3 infantry combat vehicles against RPG, and which well protect the side projections of the hull and turret of the tank against the widespread close combat weapons of type PG-9S.
http://salis3.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/grau_indexes__ver327__2011_03_22.pdf
Grau Index with designations and meaning of specific designations letters and numbers for military equipment.