Su-30 for Russian Air Force

50 are on order

To form 3 regiments, they will need to order 30 more.

medo wrote:It seems regiment in Domna will be soon fully equipped with Su-30SM.

1 squadron, black bort numbers: 01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,10,14,15
2 squadron, red numbers: 16,17,18,19,20,21,23,26 and in beginning of August they also receive 2 planes 24,25

Practically they have 22 fighters, 2 more and they will be complete. If we count here first 6 in training and test centers 01,02,54,55,56,57 and the first 3 for Navy 35,36,37, than we already have 31 Su-30SM.

Great info, thanks Medo.

Meanwhile, wow...



and...

Who takes all these pictures? Are their "plane spotters" like there are "car spotters" or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A0nHJKTlkU

Su-30SM number 24 and 25 are in Lipetsk in Avia Indra 2014 exercise.

Both Su-30SM in Avia Indra 2014 exercize.

http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2014/09/05/304245.html

Russian MoD sign a new contract with IAPO for 7 more Su-30SM for RuNAVY. Maybe first 12 will be for training squadron.

medo wrote:http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2014/09/05/304245.html

Russian MoD sign a new contract with IAPO for 7 more Su-30SM for RuNAVY. Maybe first 12 will be for training squadron.

so 50+7 = 57 total on order?

George1 wrote:

medo wrote:http://www.aviaport.ru/digest/2014/09/05/304245.html

Russian MoD sign a new contract with IAPO for 7 more Su-30SM for RuNAVY. Maybe first 12 will be for training squadron.

so 50+7 = 57 total on order?

http://www.ruaviation.com/news/2014/1/17/2170/

To be honest, no idea. Maybe those 5+7 planes are additional contracts or they are inside those 50 planed planes. Interesting is, that first planes from those 50 planes are planed to be delivered in the end of 2015. Could be, that those 5+7 planes are additional contracts and first 3 were delivered from contract for 5 planes.

That does sound realistic...

RuAF ordered today additional seven Su-30SM

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/52612/

zg18 wrote:RuAF ordered today additional seven Su-30SM

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/52612/

They are for RuNavy not for RuAF.

Well, according to bmpd so far 72 Su-30SM have been ordered for the MoD, 60 for VVS (30 plus 30) and 12 (5 plus 7) for VMF. So it appears only these 12 have been ordered for the Navy so far, not the figures i was guesstimating.

mack8 wrote:Well, according to bmpd so far 72 Su-30SM have been ordered for the MoD, 60 for VVS (30 plus 30) and 12 (5 plus 7) for VMF. So it appears only these 12 have been ordered for the Navy so far, not the figures i was guesstimating.

and these 12 are going to replace the 18 old Su-24 of black sea fleet

Interesting how the Su-30SM will replace the Su-24 there... After all, they are completely different classes of aircraft!

 - It does seem like they can carry a similar payload.

I'm sure there will be more orders for both RuAF and RuNAVY. This year there will be 37 Su-30SM produced and with such tempo next year IAPO will finish orders. In situation like now, Russian MoD will need more of them and I hope they will buy more than 200 of Su-30SM for both RuAF and RuNAVY.

Mike E wrote:Interesting how the Su-30SM will replace the Su-24 there... After all, they are completely different classes of aircraft!

- It does seem like they can carry a similar payload.

Su-30SM is multirole fighter and could do all tasks of Su-24 and at the same time it could also do air defense duties, which Su-24 could not do. Su-30SM could carry Yakhont and Klub anti-ship and cruise missiles. India place their Brahmos missile on Su-30MKI. Klub missile with 600 km range is very potent weapon and with long range of Su-30SM, they could attack ships very far away. Unfortunately MiG-29K could not carry those big missiles. No doubt naval regiment of Su-30SM in Kamchatka will use those planes in full capabilities.

medo wrote:

Mike E wrote:Interesting how the Su-30SM will replace the Su-24 there... After all, they are completely different classes of aircraft!

- It does seem like they can carry a similar payload.

Su-30SM is multirole fighter and could do all tasks of Su-24 and at the same time it could also do air defense duties, which Su-24 could not do. Su-30SM could carry Yakhont and Klub anti-ship and cruise missiles. India place their Brahmos missile on Su-30MKI. Klub missile with 600 km range is very potent weapon and with long range of Su-30SM, they could attack ships very far away. Unfortunately MiG-29K could not carry those big missiles. No doubt naval regiment of Su-30SM in Kamchatka will use those planes in full capabilities.

I don't doubt that... I figured that they could go with both the Su-34 and SM, which would give them more overall payload etc.

i agree su-24 with its swing wing ,is obsolete ,but its true succesor should be su-34 not su-30 (version). su-34 tail looks perfect for MAD detector . probably some russian military complex lobbying...

navyfield wrote:i agree su-24 with its swing wing ,is obsolete ,but its true succesor should be su-34 not su-30 (version). su-34 tail looks perfect for MAD detector . probably some russian military complex lobbying...

Depend on what navy need. They have anti-sub planes and they need to replace old Su-24. Su-34 is bigger and more expensive and they are now primarily build for RuAF. Su-30SM could do all tasks as Su-34 could do in navy, but in air defense tasks Su-30SM is better than Su-34. Su-30SM squadrons in Crimea, Kaliningrad and in Kamchatka will also defend naval bases.

medo wrote:

navyfield wrote:i agree su-24 with its swing wing ,is obsolete ,but its true succesor should be su-34 not su-30 (version). su-34 tail looks perfect for MAD detector . probably some russian military complex lobbying...

Depend on what navy need. They have anti-sub planes and they need to replace old Su-24. Su-34 is bigger and more expensive and they are now primarily build for RuAF. Su-30SM could do all tasks as Su-34 could do in navy, but in air defense tasks Su-30SM is better than Su-34. Su-30SM squadrons in Crimea, Kaliningrad and in Kamchatka will also defend naval bases.

right and also even if su-24 role isnt the same as su-30sm consider that su-30sm is a modern aircraft and can perform all tasks the su-24s did as naval strike aircrafts

Just like the upgraded MiG-29SMT or M2 or K2 could do all the precision strike that previously dedicated aircraft like the MiG-27K and Su-24 performed, the new multirole Su-30s should be able to replace the older Su-24M in the anti shipping role.

I rather suspect the upgrades of the Tu-22M3M together with the upgraded multirole Su-27 and Su-30s should be able to allow for the withdrawl of the Su-24.

I am not even sure that the Su-34 has naval applications yet...

GarryB wrote:

I am not even sure that the Su-34 has naval applications yet...

No it hasnt, thats why they put su-30sm as replacement of naval su-24s

http://www.janes.com/article/42851/russian-navy-orders-additional-su-30sm-fighters

Russia has ordered another seven Sukhoi Su-30SM multirole fighter aircraft for the Russian Navy, it was announced on 5 September.

The contracts were signed by Russian Deputy Defence Minister Yury Borisov and Irkut Corporation President Oleg Demchenko.

"These modern aircraft, capable of destroying air, surface, and ground targets, allow us to increase substantially the potential of naval aviation," said Borisov.

The Russian government reported it will pay RUB13 billion (USD360 million) in all, or about USD50 million per aircraft. The contract was signed during the 10th International Seaplane Exhibition 'Gidroaviasalon-2014' in Gelendzhik.

Borisov said this was the second order for the Russian Navy. In July, the navy received the first three Su-30SM fighters ordered under a late 2013 contract for five aircraft.

Also in Gelendzhik, Navy Commander-in-Chief Admiral Viktor Chirkov said that naval aviation will receive 10 MiG-29K carrier fighters, one An-140 transport, and one Be-200 seaplane before the end of 2014.

Ten MiG-29K aircraft would give the navy a fleet of 14 aircraft, and 10 more will be received in 2015, according to Adm Chirkov.

He also said the navy intended to procure a total of six Be-200 amphibians. Three will form a search-and-rescue detachment for the Pacific Fleet; the remaining three will be based at Yeysk, presumably to cover the same mission for Russia's western fleets.

su-34 was advertised as a naval aircraft . that plane shouldnt have been made since su-30 versions can cover everything.