The "I want to join the Russian Army" Thread

It depends on the unit and the region... in some places and in some units it is very bad.
Most military units have initiation rituals, the more sadistic ones are called hazing, and most organisations all round the world have issues with such things... including universities and sports teams.

If you are afraid of a little bullying then perhaps military life is not for you.

Not to justify it in any way.

Also I would say that the introduction of a military police force to deal with Hazing suggests they are not doing nothing and are taking the problem very seriously.

Regarding the Foreign Legion, AFAIK and from what I have read it appears to me to be aimed at people from former Soviet Republics that want to get Russian citizenship, and that priority number one would be that you speak and write in Russian like a native of Russia.

People actually being killed directly is very rare.

Suicides or revenge rampages are not as rare.

The worst case I have read about was one soldier who had to have his genitals and legs amputated because he was put in a stress position for 3 hours... but then that is something the CIA does all the time.

What you are talking about is a foreign legion type unit that is attached to the Russian military like the French Foreign Legion is attached to the French military.

I have heard of such units for people from former Soviet Republics to gain Russian citizenship, but a foreigner just walking into the VDV or serving on a submarine would be very very unlikely.

The Russian military has conscription, so Russian citizens are liable to have to serve unless they can get out of it.

The purpose of foreign legion type units is for people to become Russian citizens.

The basic requisite would be fluent in Russian (written and oral)... that is assuming they would consider accepting westerners, of whom they would be highly suspicious of your motives as would the US military if a Russian citizen wanted to join the US military.

Needless to say if they did take you on expect to get the sht jobs and there would be no chance of joining an elite force like the VDV.

And some foreigners that want to become russian citizens will have a better chance at becoming one.

The French use their foreign legion as cannon fodder... to go in first or for dangerous missions.

Initially they wont trust you fully so you will not be used where you need to be trusted. You'll get crappy or dangerous missions and if you do a respectable job and don't get killed you will likely earn their respect and will be treated as a brother.

It's basically where they beat the shit out of you and bully you, some times to death. It's like an invitation.

No. It is more like an initiation ritual to become part of the group.

I remember reading one case where a group of new recruits were out on training and when they came back they found a nice clean towel at the foot of their beds. Most stepped over it and got cleaned up and went to bed, but one who clearly had a relative from the outfit took the nice clean towel and washed himself with it. In the middle of the night a group of older soldiers came in and gave the new soldiers a few punches to say... our towels are not good enough for you?

Other times it is stuff like the new recruits clean the boots of the older guys.

The justification is usually that this is the ritual for this unit and we had it done to us so we are doing it to you and you must do it to the next group.

Half the problem is that there is a rotation of groups so there is always one group that is new and one group that is half way through its training, which means one group new and weak and one group fit and strong.

Naval units have their own rituals like a pilot that lands on a carrier for the first time will be picked up by his mates and carried to the back of the plane and have his ass smacked against the tailhook of the aircraft... totally harmless.

Another naval ritual common around the world is when you pass the equator you have to drink a glass of sea water taken from very deep down underwater... some members of the crew dress up like Neptune or mermaids etc etc.

American Universities have all sorts of Hazing rituals too, some of them are bizarre, most are quite harmless, and for the most part the same can be said of Russian hazing.

To put it in perspective I have read about Canadian soldiers in some units being forced to drink their own vomit, and get urinated on by other members of the unit... the term hazing is not new and is not Russian exclusive.

Some people have committed suicide (I think about 230 people died during 2011 due to dedovchina). I actually think it's on the first page of this thread that they were talking about it, Im too lazy to go look

That is total suicide rate for the military, which in a million man military is probably below the national average.
Very few people actually die directly from this... the people who do it are not trying to kill the new recruits... it is like a test... are you tough enough to join this unit.

EDIT: If my research is correct, the pay is about $4,000 USD a year?

It is not something you would do for the money, it is often done for very different reasons and of course there can be as many different reasons as there are recruits.

Most of the things you will need will be paid for already, like rent and food etc.

On some bases in the middle of nowhere there will be little to spend your money on anyway.