Iran Air Defense Systems

Medo wrote:Iran doesn't have Buk and I doubt Russia give them any Buk technology. But Iran have Standard missiles in its inventory and they produce Standard complex for their new build ships.Iran could redesign Standard missile to get one similar to Buk and place it on a vehicle to look similar as Buk-M2.

undefined wrote:"an upgrade of the Iranian Kub/Kvadrat systems, including deliveries of 9M317E (SA-17) missiles, should be carried on in 2007-09" -

Mikhail Barabanov, "Russian Deliveries of Arms, Military Equipment, and Dual Use Items to Iran Since 2000", Moscow Defence Brief 2008

medo wrote:The missile itself is not 9M317 and I also doubt Iran got any. True, missile is simmilar and Iran already produce two similar missiles, Hawk and Standard, which is the most easy to modify in 9M317 similar missile. Even Russians have Standard missile in mind, when they design Buk.

According to Pukhov, Iran is also experiencing shortages not only of modern antiaircraft weaponry, but also notification and control systems. "Of Iran's surface-to-air missile systems, the only ones that have any combat value are the modern Russian short-range Top-M1 systems and the Kvadrat systems, which were recently upgraded with Russian help and were given new 9M317 missiles," Pukhov said.

Vladimir79 wrote:Have to give props to Farce News, they always have some great story like DEBKA.  

‘First shot’: Iran tests Bavar-373 system aimed to substitute Russian S-300
Tehran has showcased an indigenous long-range air defense system, the Bavar-373 missile, developed as an alternative to the Russian S-300 after Moscow canceled its contract.

"Bavar-373 has fired a first successful shot," the commander of the Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base, Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli, told Iranian state TV on Friday.

According to Iranian security officials, the new system is better than the Russian S-300, as it is able to track over 100 targets, just like the Russian system but with a higher targeting capability.
http://rt.com/news/183856-bavar373-missile-iran-s300/

AlfaT8 wrote:

‘First shot’: Iran tests Bavar-373 system aimed to substitute Russian S-300
Tehran has showcased an indigenous long-range air defense system, the Bavar-373 missile, developed as an alternative to the Russian S-300 after Moscow canceled its contract.

"Bavar-373 has fired a first successful shot," the commander of the Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base, Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli, told Iranian state TV on Friday.

According to Iranian security officials, the new system is better than the Russian S-300, as it is able to track over 100 targets, just like the Russian system but with a higher targeting capability.
http://rt.com/news/183856-bavar373-missile-iran-s300/

What do you guys think about this "S-300 replacement".

Werewolf wrote:Actually that is less about current projects and their quality rather then a long term development and testing of their Military Industrial Complex. Iran already has seen that even russia bows down just because some jews are bitching abour S-300 missiles and therefor Russia in case when jews bitch around are not that credible and reliable to get a product and deal done. That is exactly why Iran has started to develope its Military Industrial Complex to get everything they need on them own, but that is a rather long term solution which will show results in several years or better decades, but better start now then later.

Tehran has showcased an indigenous long-range air defense system, the Bavar-373 missile, developed as an alternative to the Russian S-300 after Moscow canceled its contract.

"Bavar-373 has fired a first successful shot," the commander of the Khatam ol-Anbia Air Defense Base, Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli, told Iranian state TV on Friday.

According to Iranian security officials, the new system is better than the Russian S-300, as it is able to track over 100 targets, just like the Russian system but with a higher targeting capability.

"We believe that 'Bavar' and '3rd of Khordad' missile shields are better than some other long-range missile defense systems of the country," ol-Anbia added, Fars news reports.

Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, ordered the development of the missile system, after then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev banned armed sales to the country in light of UN sanctions against Tehran. Following the move, Iran filed a $4 billion lawsuit against Russia in the international arbitration court in Geneva.

The S-300 is a long-range surface-to-air missile system produced by NPO Almaz. It is designed to be used as a defensive weapon against aircraft and cruise missiles.

Meanwhile, Iran’s Air Defense commander boasted that the country's defense systems will track down all of Islamic Republic's enemies if they fly over Iran's airspace.

“We give a warning to the enemy’s aircraft before entering the Islamic Republic’s airspace, and deem any kind of intruding drones or planes of enemy a threat, and shoot it down immediately in case of entry [into Iran],” Colonel Mahmoud Ahmadi, commander of Iran’s southwestern Air Defense zone, Tasnim news reported.

A drawing of the Bavar-373 (Image from wikipedia.org)

A drawing of the Bavar-373 (Image from wikipedia.org)

This follow an August 24 incident, when the country's forces shot down a stealth drone thought to be sent from Israel. The invading “Hermes” aircraft was intercepted by a surface-to-air missile.

Iran has also unveiled plans to increase the number of air defense sites from the current 3,600 to 5,000, according to Brigadier General Farzad Esmayeeli.

Mike E wrote:They would need India, maybe China, or better yet, Russia to build it successfully. Both Belarus and especially NK wouldn't be of much help.

I also doubt most claims about it, like the "100 targets" one.

Mike E wrote:True, every country, even Russia on occasion, overstates their military prowess.

"Like a S-300", yes, as good as one, no. Especially for NK, it might have a range of ~400 km, but it would probably have a kill probability of like 0.10 or something bad... They simply have no industry, neither does Belarus, even though theirs is more advanced.

I've heard you opinion on this many times, and I disagree. I personally believe that the S-300, and more so the S-400, would do more than just "deter" an airstrike... The Bavar-373 on the other hand...... (Let's keep it at there's a reason every country in the world wants more SAMs, including Russia.)

To be honest, I'm no expert on this kind of thing as well... What I do know, is that the US forces as expressed their feeling towards Russian S-300 and S-400 systems, and those feelings are always filled with fear...