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    International Criminal Court The Hague

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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 09, 2024 7:36 pm

    This will be the place to post items on the ICC starting with the case South Africa has raised against Israel on genocide in Gaza.

    EDIT - An introduction

    In what is being hailed as the most significant hearing of modern times concerning war crimes and genocide, the International Criminal Court is poised to address a historic case: South Africa vs. Israel that should be titled as Humanity vs. Israel.

    Since October 7, the streets of Gaza have witnessed a tragic flow of blood, symbolizing the innocent lives affected by Israel’s occupation and the subsequent collective punishment that turned Gaza and other Palestinian regions to rubble.

    The Israeli wars and atrocities have left humanity abandoned and in despair. South Africa’s bold and commendable initiative stands as a beacon for humanity and justice, serving as a wake-up call to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC), a bloc consisting of 56 member states that had been in a state of deep slumber.

    Renowned for their work in human rights, South Africa’s legal panels have compiled an extensive 84-page charge sheet replete with evidence. These documented proofs align with what the world has witnessed through social media and television screens since October 7.

    The pursuit of accountability for war crimes and genocides represents one of the most formidable challenges in our deeply polarized world. The acquittal of such crimes committed by states bears significant consequences for the international rule of law, as it sends a powerful message against global tyranny.

    International law offers explicit descriptions regarding holding countries and states accountable for war crimes and the excessive use of force, as seen in Israel’s actions. Any use of force beyond what is deemed necessary for self-defense inevitably leads to criminal liability.

    This case underscores the critical need for the international community to uphold justice, ensuring that nations are held responsible for their actions. As the proceedings unfold, the eyes of the world will be on the International Criminal Court, anticipating a landmark decision that could shape the future of global accountability.

    https://malikayubsumbal.com/humanity-vs-israel-case-on-war-crimes-and-genocide-takes-center-stage-at-international-criminal-court/


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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:05 pm

    The Zionists don't seem to care how their comments could be used against them in court.

    Located here is a database where there are currently 120 statements by Israelis of what should happen to Gaza and the Palestinians. Many no doubt destined to be used as evidence.

    https://zionism.observer/
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    Post  GarryB Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:14 am

    Their excuse is that they were promised the land by god from the old testament.

    I haven't read the old testament, but does it say you can have this piece of land and anyone who is on there now you can kill and displace as you please.

    Hitler did much the same when he decided that his people were chosen by god and needed some living space in the east.

    Using a 2,000 year old book to justify actions they experienced less than 80 years ago by monsters and want the world never to forget.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:14 pm

    I will add sources of information and progress as I find them here. Feel free to add your own to the thread.

    https://malikayubsumbal.com see intro above

    https://twitter.com/CraigMurrayOrg now in the Hague as an observer

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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:31 pm

    Lord Bebo
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    🇵🇸🇮🇱‼🚨 PALESTINE NEEDS HELP: The ICC allows now to submit photo and video evidence!

    ‼We need to do this:
    1) We need to gather all videos and photos
    2) Preferably with the time, location and names of victims
    3) Please post all videos, pictures and information in comments
    4) I will make concise compilations of related content
    5) Retweet and share this thread
    6) Submit your own complaint to the ICC, but make sure it is formulated and with clear evidence. The link is in the next post.

    Now go to work!

    https://www.justiceforall.org/icc-submissions/


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Jan 10, 2024 9:48 pm

    Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor:

    We submitted a court memorandum to the legal team of the Republic of South Africa and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights on the monitoring of the most prominent mass graves that have been established in the Gaza Strip, amidst the crimes by "Israel".

    ▫The court memorandum included a preliminary documented tracking of dates, numbers and information for dozens of mass graves that were established in the Gaza Strip, as a result of the huge number of victims of Israeli attacks.
    The memorandum comes ahead of two public hearings of the International Court of Justice on Thursday and Friday (January 11 and 12) regarding the South African Republic's claim against Israel regarding the situation in Gaza.

    ▫Euro-Med. the monitor provided the South African legal team with other informative memos on mass murders, targeting of the health sector and the results of continuing crimes in the Belt, after the submission of the report.
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 11, 2024 12:38 am

    Jackson Hinkle 🇺🇸
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    🚨🇮🇱 The following countries have endorsed South Africa’s GENOCIDE CONVENTION LAWSUIT against ISRAEL at the International Court of Justice:

    🇲🇾Malaysia
    🇹🇷Turkey
    🇧🇴Bolivia
    🇳🇮Nicaragua
    🇲🇻The Maldives
    🇻🇪Venezuela
    🇳🇦Namibia
    🇯🇴Jordan
    🇲🇦Morocco
    🇮🇷Iran
    🇧🇩Bangladesh
    🇵🇰Pakistan
    🇸🇦Saudi Arabia

    The ARAB LEAGUE announces support for South Africa's GENOCIDE LAWSUIT against ISRAEL in the International Court of Justice.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 11, 2024 4:29 pm

    It started this morning

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    South Africa legal team's Adila Hassim @CIJ_ICJ
    : “Genocides are never declared in advance, but this court has the benefit of the past 13 weeks of evidence that shows incontrovertibly a pattern of conduct & related intention that justifies a plausible claim of genocidal acts.”


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    Watch the case against Israel as presented by South Africa to the International Court of Justice.

    Warning! This presentation made me incredibly sad and any person with empathy will feel profound sadness about the suffering and injustice presented here:

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Jan 11, 2024 8:49 pm

    This is the start of a good background article by Pepe Escobar. But bear in mind that the current president of the ICJ is Joan Donoghue, an American lawyer and former U.S. State Department hack. She has significant weight toward the outcome of any case.


    Nothing less than the full concept of international law will be on trial this week in The Hague. The whole world is watching.

    It took an African nation, not an Arab or Muslim nation, but significantly a BRICS member, to try to break the iron chains deployed by Zionism via fear, financial might, and non-stop threats, enslaving not only Palestine but substantial swathes of the planet.    

    By a twist of historical poetic justice, South Africa, a nation that knows one or two things about apartheid, had to take the moral high ground and be the first to file a suit against apartheid Israel at the International Court of Justice (ICJ).  

    The 84-page lawsuit, exhaustively argued, fully documented, and filed on 29 December 2023, details all the ongoing horrors perpetrated in the occupied Gaza Strip and followed by everyone with a smartphone around the planet.

    South Africa asks the ICJ – a UN mechanism – something quite straightforward: Declare that the state of Israel has breached all its responsibilities under international law since 7 October.

    And that, crucially, includes a violation of the 1948 Genocide Convention, according to which genocide consists of “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group.”

    https://new.thecradle.co/articles/brics-member-south-africa-takes-zionism-to-court

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    Post  GarryB Fri Jan 12, 2024 9:05 am

    Nothing less than the full concept of international law will be on trial this week in The Hague. The whole world is watching.

    I think that is the key... the rest of the world does not expect these agents of the US and EU to be fair or impartial and so when it obviously collapses, or even if it comes to the right decision but it doesn't matter because Israel ignores the UN and the ICJ then talk will turn to something that countries cannot ignore as they please and something that is actually fair and unbiased... something not in Europe or the US...

    This is about changing the world order the west has created to control the world into something that will actually serve the interests of the countries of the world.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Jan 16, 2024 7:07 pm

    At 11 mins this is long interview but he certainly doesn't spare the Israelis.

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