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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 18, 2019 6:01 am

    Lol its funny how in the article, Bulgaria is suddenly referred to as a ‘Western’ country

    But the title of the story is NATO Ally... not NATO Member State... so they are not fully integrated yet...
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    Post  PhSt Sat Dec 14, 2019 3:20 am

    Russia has no choice but to impose aggressive measures to thwart NATO attempts to break the country apart. On the other hand Russia needs to double its efforts to dismember NATO and breakup America.




    Russia Backs Penalties for Attending ‘Undesirable’ Courses Abroad

    Russian lawmakers tasked with weeding out foreign interference have endorsed penalties for Russian nationals who attend “undesirable” NGO courses abroad, the country’s parliament said Thursday.

    The lower-house State Duma formed a special commission on foreign meddling in Russia after mass anti-government rallies rocked Moscow this summer. Since then, it has accused foreign news outlets, U.S. diplomats and Google of encouraging people to attend the opposition protests.

    The commission has proposed punishing Russians “for participating in events held abroad by foreign and international NGOs whose activities are ruled undesirable in Russia,” the Duma said.

    “The most common form [of foreign interference] is training future ‘specialists’ abroad who fit the profile,” commission chairman Vasily Piskaryov said.

    Russia has blacklisted 19 foreign organizations as “undesirable” under a 2015 law that allows prosecutors to limit or halt their work. The law imposes fines or prison terms of up to six years on members of these groups.

    The Duma commission accused these groups of influencing election campaigns, engaging minors in mass riots and “forming public tolerance to drug use by promoting its consumption and legalization.”

    Furthermore, the “undesirable” groups interfered by allegedly grooming their own candidates for Russia’s elections, the state-run TASS news agency quoted Piskaryov as saying. He declined to name the candidates.

    “[There is] administrative and criminal liability if the events take place in Russia,” Piskaryov was quoted as saying.

    “But given that there’s no penalty for training at these centers abroad, they’ve all migrated from Russia,” he added.

    The training courses on so-called meddling are carried out in the Czech Republic, Finland and the Baltic states, Piskaryov was quoted as saying.

    Members of the Duma commission plan to consider the penalties for Russians who attend “undesirable” foreign courses “in the near future,” it said.
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    Post  kvs Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:00 am

    PhSt wrote:Russia has no choice but to impose aggressive measures to thwart NATO attempts to break the country apart. On the other hand Russia needs to double its efforts to dismember NATO and breakup America.




    Russia Backs Penalties for Attending ‘Undesirable’ Courses Abroad

    Russian lawmakers tasked with weeding out foreign interference have endorsed penalties for Russian nationals who attend “undesirable” NGO courses abroad, the country’s parliament said Thursday.

    The lower-house State Duma formed a special commission on foreign meddling in Russia after mass anti-government rallies rocked Moscow this summer. Since then, it has accused foreign news outlets, U.S. diplomats and Google of encouraging people to attend the opposition protests.

    The commission has proposed punishing Russians “for participating in events held abroad by foreign and international NGOs whose activities are ruled undesirable in Russia,” the Duma said.

    “The most common form [of foreign interference] is training future ‘specialists’ abroad who fit the profile,” commission chairman Vasily Piskaryov said.

    Russia has blacklisted 19 foreign organizations as “undesirable” under a 2015 law that allows prosecutors to limit or halt their work. The law imposes fines or prison terms of up to six years on members of these groups.

    The Duma commission accused these groups of influencing election campaigns, engaging minors in mass riots and “forming public tolerance to drug use by promoting its consumption and legalization.”

    Furthermore, the “undesirable” groups interfered by allegedly grooming their own candidates for Russia’s elections, the state-run TASS news agency quoted Piskaryov as saying. He declined to name the candidates.

    “[There is] administrative and criminal liability if the events take place in Russia,” Piskaryov was quoted as saying.

    “But given that there’s no penalty for training at these centers abroad, they’ve all migrated from Russia,” he added.

    The training courses on so-called meddling are carried out in the Czech Republic, Finland and the Baltic states, Piskaryov was quoted as saying.

    Members of the Duma commission plan to consider the penalties for Russians who attend “undesirable” foreign courses “in the near future,” it said.

    These "courses" are the same as training camps for insurgents. They should have been treated as the foreign sponsored and indoctrinated criminals
    that they are from day one. If Russia isn't good enough for them, they can go and live in their beloved NATO. Maybe they can flip burgers or
    or whore themselves out in their mythical utopia.

    Malcontents that start to serve foreign enemies of a country drive me nuts. I don't love NATO and its racist hate agenda, but I don't subvert
    it. It really is up to the majority to decide their path.

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:27 am

    kvs wrote:
    PhSt wrote:Russia has no choice but to impose aggressive measures to thwart NATO attempts to break the country apart. On the other hand Russia needs to double its efforts to dismember NATO and breakup America.




    Russia Backs Penalties for Attending ‘Undesirable’ Courses Abroad

    Russian lawmakers tasked with weeding out foreign interference have endorsed penalties for Russian nationals who attend “undesirable” NGO courses abroad, the country’s parliament said Thursday.

    The lower-house State Duma formed a special commission on foreign meddling in Russia after mass anti-government rallies rocked Moscow this summer. Since then, it has accused foreign news outlets, U.S. diplomats and Google of encouraging people to attend the opposition protests.

    The commission has proposed punishing Russians “for participating in events held abroad by foreign and international NGOs whose activities are ruled undesirable in Russia,” the Duma said.

    “The most common form [of foreign interference] is training future ‘specialists’ abroad who fit the profile,” commission chairman Vasily Piskaryov said.

    Russia has blacklisted 19 foreign organizations as “undesirable” under a 2015 law that allows prosecutors to limit or halt their work. The law imposes fines or prison terms of up to six years on members of these groups.

    The Duma commission accused these groups of influencing election campaigns, engaging minors in mass riots and “forming public tolerance to drug use by promoting its consumption and legalization.”

    Furthermore, the “undesirable” groups interfered by allegedly grooming their own candidates for Russia’s elections, the state-run TASS news agency quoted Piskaryov as saying. He declined to name the candidates.

    “[There is] administrative and criminal liability if the events take place in Russia,” Piskaryov was quoted as saying.

    “But given that there’s no penalty for training at these centers abroad, they’ve all migrated from Russia,” he added.

    The training courses on so-called meddling are carried out in the Czech Republic, Finland and the Baltic states, Piskaryov was quoted as saying.

    Members of the Duma commission plan to consider the penalties for Russians who attend “undesirable” foreign courses “in the near future,” it said.

    These "courses" are the same as training camps for insurgents.   They should have been treated as the foreign sponsored and indoctrinated criminals
    that they are from day one.   If Russia isn't good enough for them, they can go and live in their beloved NATO.   Maybe they can flip burgers or
    or whore themselves out in their mythical utopia.

    Malcontents that start to serve foreign enemies of a country drive me nuts.   I don't love NATO and its racist hate agenda, but I don't subvert
    it.   It really is up to the majority to decide their path.  


    thats the thing. If you dont like your homeland like Russia, fine. But dont try to act in a manner of destroying it and making it harder for others.
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    Post  PhSt Sun Jul 19, 2020 6:06 am

    Can you imagine the magnitude of MSM panic if this happened the other way around? I bet HATO will be bitching about it for months and will be screeching for more sanctions Rolling Eyes oh and yet its HUAWEI that needs to be banned for collecting user data duh!



    US Researchers Reportedly Spied on Russian Defence Officials Using Marketing Data From Cell Phones

    This is not the first time that American researchers have used data from cell phones that was obtained in questionable ways to spy on the Russian defence industry. In May, the analytics company Orbital Insights said that with the use of purchased cell network data it had detected a slowdown in the country's defence industry.
    Researchers from Mississippi State University tracked down and monitored movements of unnamed Russian officials possibly related to the country's defence industry by simply buying commercial data collected from their cell phones, The Wall Street Journal reports, citing documents obtained under a request from the state. It's not clear why the researchers targeted the Russian defence industry specifically, but they indicated that their work might be of interest for law enforcement and American government agencies.

    The group of academics, funded by the Pentagon, obtained geolocation data, collected by various mobile apps from users' phones and then sold it to marketing companies, from a company named Babel Street. While the firm describes itself as social-media monitoring service, they have a "secret" product named "Locate X", which allows clients to access archives of cell location data obtained from various sources, the newspaper claims. The company does not advertise the product and requires its clients to remain mum on its existence, the WSJ adds.

    The team from the Mississippi University tracked phone owners whose location was close to known or suspected military sites in Russia. They learnt that 48 cell phones were present at the Nyonoksa Missile Test Site on 9 August 2019, a day after an experimental missile engine exploded during tests, killing several people. The researchers were also able to track further movements of Russian officials who were thought to be responding to an incident. It's unclear if the team was able to identify anyone of the 48 phone owners.

    The university researchers also determined that the Nyonoksa tests site had the smallest mobile phone presence out of all three monitored objects, concluding that either it had stricter rules or that the incident left the site contaminated and forced the evacuation of personnel, according to WSJ.

    In the past, Orbital Insights analysts expressed interest in spying on the Russian defence industry using data obtained from cell phones. They got hold of cell data from several Russian regions where defence industry factories are located. Analysing the cell activity in Spring 2020 and comparing it to earlier periods

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    Post  miketheterrible Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:34 am

    This also explains why the government of Russia is pushing hard for their own cell phones using their own OS. The recent voting on constitution was done on local made tablets using a local made OS. Same one they want to push on their own smartphones. Essentially, they are pushing it for all institutions.

    I am not surprised. But it was really only a way for them to track locations of officials. It isn't really effective but still works.
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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 19, 2020 7:52 am

    This story is over the top dick stroking self congratulation. They make it sound like they broke all of Russia's secrets by getting
    some cell phone data. Recording conversations and GPS locations is not going to give you much. I doubt that they have
    recorded all conversations and I do not believe that GPS tracking of all Russian defense workers was in place.

    This dick stroking smells of window dressing on a failure. Under Putin, Russian intelligence services have become world class
    and such obvious ploys would have been addressed at the latest in the early 2000s. Everyone and his dog knew about GPS
    tracking via cell phones. So no way that Russian intelligence would be unaware. Recording of cell phone conversations
    requires local hacking of the Russian cell towers or infiltration into Russian telecoms. This is not as easy as it sounds. But I
    suspect that Russian intelligence did set up counter psy-ops where they made it seem that Russian secrets could leak via
    cell phones. Feeding your enemy false information is a standard and essential procedure. It makes more sense that any
    leaks were such psy-ops.

    This story and the recent claims about Russians stealing precious NATzO Covid vaccine research are propaganda drivel.
    They are sparse on specifics and are basically "trust us" BS. Yeah, go ahead and "trust yourself" with your cheeseball
    amateur fiction.


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    Post  Mindstorm Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:52 pm

    kvs wrote:
    This story and the recent claims about Russians stealing precious NATzO Covid vaccine research are propaganda drivel.  
    They are sparse on specifics and are basically "trust us" BS.   Yeah, go ahead and "trust yourself" with your cheeseball
    amateur fiction.


    As correctly said by Director of the РФПИ Кирилл Дмитриев this appear like a truly retarded while pathetic attempt to tarnish the unparalleled at today success achieved ij the vaccine's development by renowed National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology "Н. Ф. Гамалеи", moreover claimed strangely just a day after that the Director of the First Moscow State Medical University "И.М. Сеченова claimed that potentially the phase 3 of experimentation and patent for civil mass production could be completed as early as mid August.....

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5f1097629a7947f2d83e6614

    As explained the edge is represented mostly by the unique typology of the vaccine's biochemical vector purposely developed and patented in 2015 by the Center "Гамалеи", at the time against Ebola virus, to be capable to host inserts of the spike molecule of other virus such as MERS and today Covid SARS-2.

    To notice the level of the questions.....and for extension intellectual complexity and integrity..... of CNN journalist; not that this would represent a surprise anymore for anyone Rolling Eyes


    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/07/17/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-trials-lab-concerns-cyberattack-chance-dnt-lead-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/

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    Post  kvs Sun Jul 19, 2020 5:04 pm

    Mindstorm wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    This story and the recent claims about Russians stealing precious NATzO Covid vaccine research are propaganda drivel.  
    They are sparse on specifics and are basically "trust us" BS.   Yeah, go ahead and "trust yourself" with your cheeseball
    amateur fiction.


    As correctly said by Director of the РФПИ Кирилл Дмитриев this appear like a truly retarded while pathetic attempt to tarnish the unparalleled at today success achieved ij the vaccine's development by renowed National Research Center for Epidemiology and Microbiology "Н. Ф. Гамалеи", moreover claimed strangely just a day after that the Director of the First Moscow State Medical University "И.М. Сеченова claimed that potentially the phase 3 of experimentation and patent for civil mass production could be completed as early as mid August.....

    https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5f1097629a7947f2d83e6614

    As explained the edge is represented mostly by the unique typology of the vaccine's biochemical vector purposely developed and patented in 2015 by the Center "Гамалеи", at the time against Ebola virus, to be capable to host inserts of the spike molecule of other virus such as MERS and today Covid SARS-2.

    To notice the level of the questions.....and for extension intellectual complexity and integrity..... of CNN journalist; not that this would represent a surprise anymore for anyone  Rolling Eyes


    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2020/07/17/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-trials-lab-concerns-cyberattack-chance-dnt-lead-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/around-the-world/


    Yes, indeed, in the real world Russian biotech is world class. I have been listening to inane western propaganda about inferior
    Russians for decades. Western consumer sheeple are fed a steady diet that Russians and others are mud hut dwellers who
    cannot into tech. The average western sheep does not think for itself. This is not rude to say, this is empirical fact.
    This behaviour is coupled with arrogance pumped by western superiority propaganda. So the "primitives" always need
    to be "put in their place".

    Russia needs to review its scientific and medical research collaboration with NATzO. The hate propaganda needs to have a
    cost for NATzO. No free lunch for haters.
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    Post  Hole Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:49 pm

    It was the west that made a "race" out of it because western pharma companies want to earn most of the money. The whole world should work together to find a vaccine.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:41 am

    Lets see how many westerners are prepared to try a vaccine produced by a third world gas station...

    The irony is that if it was developed in the west there would be demands attached to allowing them access...
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    Post  Tsavo Lion Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:07 pm

    From USSR/ussia with love: https://life.ru/p/1337347

    James Bond can rest: the truth is stranger than fiction.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutton/2020/08/19/how-russian-spy-submarines-can-interfere-with-undersea-internet-cables/#7ae927123b04


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    Post  par far Sun Nov 01, 2020 6:42 pm

    "London Confirms: A Dirty War is being Waged Against Russia."



    https://www.stalkerzone.org/london-confirms-a-dirty-war-is-being-waged-against-russia/

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    Post  GarryB Mon Nov 02, 2020 2:30 am

    No Mr Bond... I expect you to die... 🍸
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Nov 10, 2020 2:27 pm

    https://twitter.com/Russ_Warrior/status/1326144148173426688?s=20

    Apparently twitter suspended an account that proved US illegal funding of groups within Russia.

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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Nov 10, 2020 3:05 pm

    Twitter has blocked the account of the "Committee for the Defense of National Interests" due to published investigations of the Western financing of foreign agents in Russia

    On November 9, 2020, the National Interests Committee's Twitter account was blocked again. This happened after the publication of another investigation by our Committee that the European Commission will allocate 900 million rubles to build a network of human rights hubs in Russia and the world. The social network blocked this material on the grounds that it allegedly violates the "Twitter rules".

    Let us recall that since the summer of 2020, our Committee has conducted a whole series of investigations in which the intentions of Western countries to "democratize" Russia have been exposed. The instrument of pressure on our country is the pro-Western NGOs and the media, which regularly receive sponsorship from abroad. The total amount of support was more than 7 billion rubles.

    It was found that:

    - USAID provided a grant of 1.3 billion rubles to promote reforms in Russia;

    - from 2016 to 2020 the National Endowment for Democracy (USA) allocated 1.6 billion rubles to pro-American NGOs in Russia;

    - The United States financed Ukraine for the fight against "Russian disinformation" in the amount of 145 million rubles;

    - The Nordic Council of Ministers allocated 120 million rubles for human rights activities and strengthening democracy in Russia;

    - The European Union has allocated 277.7 million rubles (3.2 million euros) to improve media literacy of Russian citizens and promote democratic reforms in Russia, etc.

    Thus, the Committee declares that Twitter, by blocking our account in order to prevent the dissemination of important information, violates the principle of media independence and the right of Russian citizens to receive reliable information. We demand that our account be unblocked immediately!

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    Post  PhSt Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:32 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:Twitter has blocked the account of the "Committee for the Defense of National Interests" due to published investigations of the Western financing of foreign agents in Russia

    On November 9, 2020, the National Interests Committee's Twitter account was blocked again. This happened after the publication of another investigation by our Committee that the European Commission will allocate 900 million rubles to build a network of human rights hubs in Russia and the world. The social network blocked this material on the grounds that it allegedly violates the "Twitter rules".

    Let us recall that since the summer of 2020, our Committee has conducted a whole series of investigations in which the intentions of Western countries to "democratize" Russia have been exposed. The instrument of pressure on our country is the pro-Western NGOs and the media, which regularly receive sponsorship from abroad. The total amount of support was more than 7 billion rubles.

    It was found that:

    - USAID provided a grant of 1.3 billion rubles to promote reforms in Russia;

    - from 2016 to 2020 the National Endowment for Democracy (USA) allocated 1.6 billion rubles to pro-American NGOs in Russia;

    - The United States financed Ukraine for the fight against "Russian disinformation" in the amount of 145 million rubles;

    - The Nordic Council of Ministers allocated 120 million rubles for human rights activities and strengthening democracy in Russia;

    - The European Union has allocated 277.7 million rubles (3.2 million euros) to improve media literacy of Russian citizens and promote democratic reforms in Russia, etc.

    Thus, the Committee declares that Twitter, by blocking our account in order to prevent the dissemination of important information, violates the principle of media independence and the right of Russian citizens to receive reliable information. We demand that our account be unblocked immediately!

    I think expose like these shouldn't just be published by independent groups like Committee for the Defense of National Interests. It needs to be reported in Russian state TV channels as well 24/7 to remind the population that NATO interference in the country is constant and never ending. Also, promote a Russian domestic version of Twitter.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Nov 10, 2020 4:47 pm

    The one person who actually quoted it and complained about twitter blocking said user is a host on popular Russia1 tv channel where they debate.

    Of course I guarantee they publish all findings to authorities and others.  This is just blatantly showing twitter censorship which is technically illegal in countries like Russia apparently

    Twitter alternative gaining ground is Parler. It's getting popular and it's apparently open to free speech.
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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 10, 2020 5:59 pm

    What was exposed is just the tip of the iceberg. The seditionist funding is to the tune of billions of dollars and not rubles.
    America can print as much of its fiat toilet paper as it wants to buy losers around the world who think it is better than gold.

    If you think I am wearing a tinfoil hat, then first take yours off. The CIA was exposed to have been (and likely still is) using
    the drug trade to raise off the books money. Why would the US limit itself to funding the 5th column in Russia via NED and
    other public sources. It was clear that they restored the heroin trade in Afghanistan once they planted their asses there.
    The one good thing the Taliban did was suppress the poppy plantations used for heroin production. Clearly the USA
    is using heroin smuggling as a tool to rot Russia and the Central Asian ex-USSR countries from the inside. The USA has
    a clear policy of engaging the criminal underworld all over the planet to advance its imperial ambitions.

    So you can bet your last US cent that America is funding all sorts of criminals and their "squeaky clean" frontmen like
    Navalny. Just like they do in Venezuela.

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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:04 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:The one person who actually quoted it and complained about twitter blocking said user is a host on popular Russia1 tv channel where they debate.

    Of course I guarantee they publish all findings to authorities and others.  This is just blatantly showing twitter censorship which is technically illegal in countries like Russia apparently

    Twitter alternative gaining ground is Parler.  It's getting popular and it's apparently open to free speech.

    Again, since the internet is global, Russia should be establishing English-speaking Twitter alternatives itself. Parler is yet another western
    operation so at any time it can be hijacked or may already be a honey pot of sorts.

    The cross pollination with a Russian Twitter operating in English may be slow initially but there are no fences so far on the web.
    I use Yandex when Google fails me and even if Google would censor its searches for alternative sites, Yandex can still dig them
    up. Over time people will become aware of Russian Twitter alternatives and set up shop there. But the key is to launch these
    alternatives yesterday and not wait for God knows what.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:52 pm

    kvs wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:The one person who actually quoted it and complained about twitter blocking said user is a host on popular Russia1 tv channel where they debate.

    Of course I guarantee they publish all findings to authorities and others.  This is just blatantly showing twitter censorship which is technically illegal in countries like Russia apparently

    Twitter alternative gaining ground is Parler.  It's getting popular and it's apparently open to free speech.

    Again, since the internet is global, Russia should be establishing English-speaking Twitter alternatives itself.   Parler is yet another western
    operation so at any time it can be hijacked or may already be a honey pot of sorts.  

    The cross pollination with a Russian Twitter operating in English may be slow initially but there are no fences so far on the web.
    I use Yandex when Google fails me and even if Google would censor its searches for alternative sites, Yandex can still dig them
    up.   Over time people will become aware of Russian Twitter alternatives and set up shop there.   But the key is to launch these
    alternatives yesterday and not wait for God knows what.


    LiveJournal was based out of SanFaggcisco and was originally created to promote the Pro-US/EU 5th column in the Federation, but that didn't go as planned as patriotic Russian's ended up flipping the script and commandeered it as their own. So who knows, maybe they can flip the script yet again.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:54 pm

    kvs wrote:What was exposed is just the tip of the iceberg.   The seditionist funding is to the tune of billions of dollars and not rubles.  
    America can print as much of its fiat toilet paper as it wants to buy losers around the world who think it is better than gold.

    If you think I am wearing a tinfoil hat, then first take yours off.   The CIA was exposed to have been (and likely still is) using
    the drug trade to raise off the books money.   Why would the US limit itself to funding the 5th column in Russia via NED and
    other public sources.   It was clear that they restored the heroin trade in Afghanistan once they planted their asses there.
    The one good thing the Taliban did was suppress the poppy plantations used for heroin production.   Clearly the USA
    is using heroin smuggling as a tool to rot Russia and the Central Asian ex-USSR countries from the inside.   The USA has
    a clear policy of engaging the criminal underworld all over the planet to advance its imperial ambitions.

    So you can bet your last US cent that America is funding all sorts of criminals and their "squeaky clean" frontmen like
    Navalny.   Just like they do in Venezuela.


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    Post  par far Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:48 pm

    "Aeroflot London Executive Arrested In Moscow And Charged With Spying For British Intelligence."


    https://southfront.org/aeroflot-london-executive-arrested-in-moscow-and-charged-with-spying-for-british-intelligence/

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    Post  GarryB Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:28 am

    Twitter alternative gaining ground is Parler. It's getting popular and it's apparently open to free speech.

    Doesn't matter what replaces it... whichever site manages to take its place will receive pressure to be patriotic and serve US interests.... or else.

    I mean Julian Assange is not American so how can they try him for treason... but they are.

    A certain female russian citizen wanted to reform Russia to get Russian gun laws to be similar to US gun laws and the US arrested her and put her in solitary confinement for a couple of years... it seems the reform they want in Russia is a very specific reform that does not effect their access to resources and assets of value...
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:46 pm

    https://www.stalkerzone.org/overthrow-putin-give-back-crimea-what-was-proposed-at-the-free-russia-forum/

    Obviously Russia is watching this closely, but I wonder though.

    What are the Russian authorities thinking over these people? They obviously dont give a shit about the people of said nation and even acknowledge that their people dont get any votes in Russia. So they made it obvious that they are more into violent protests and overthrowing.

    So with these words, shouldn't it be in Russias authorities best interest to now mark these people as Peresona non Grata and look at banning all financial transactions of these people entering Russia and that anyone caught with financial transactions from said people, would be fined heavily (all financial money given) and also face prison?

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