Russian Space Program: News & Discussion #2

sepheronx wrote:I read Russia is bringing back planes to launch rockets or devices into space.  Using Il-76 as base.

Big_Gazza wrote:S7 airline buys into Sea Launch

The Russian airline company, S7 Group, agreed to buy assets of the troubled Sea Launch project, including both vessels and the launch support equipment in Long Beach, California, at a price tag of around $150 million. Following a series of negotiations, the project's main contractor, RKK Energia, and the S7 Group announced the deal on Sept. 27, 2016, at the International Astronautics Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico. At the signing ceremony, RKK Energia and S7 promised to resume Sea Launch missions by the end of 2018, or 18 months after obtaining approvals for the deal. The approvals had to come from the Directorate of Defense Trade Controls, DDTC, and the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States, CFIUS.

The Sea Launch is then expected to perform around 70 launches before a major overhaul is required, its new investors believed. At the singing of the deal, RKK Energia and S7 said that the Sea Launch would remain based at the port of Long Beach and continue using the Zenit rocket. All previous plans to replace the Ukrainian-built vehicle with a Russian booster and to relocate the vessels to Russia were apparently dashed at least for the time being as financially and technically unrealistic.

At the same time, RKK Energia and S7 admitted that no agreement on the resumption of Zenit production in Dnepropetrovsk had been reached. The officials present at the signing ceremony were also unable to provide any scenarios for the resolution of the enormous outstanding dept hanging over Sea Launch, or any details on the prospects of settling the lawsuit with Boeing.

http://www.russianspaceweb.com/sealaunch.html#s7

Bizarre... why the frack would RKK Energia be even remotely interested giving a boost to Ukropistani manufacture of Zenit?  Russia should do everything to ensure that the fucking Banderites loose Yuzmash/Yuznoye through a total lack of investment/orders, and the Ukrops have no ability to build anything larger than an artillery rocket.

- When you say the "OPK" represent something powerful, gigantic. The Soviet defense industry was almost the third part of the whole industry ...

- Military-industrial complex enterprises today is 1350 and 2 million people, and each of them - a professional in their field. From worker to scholar or konstruktora.Nasha industry produces 35% of domestic innovative products, and if you take all Russian exports, the share of defense in it 25%. Russian President Vladimir Putin in his Address to estimate the rate of growth of the industry: labor productivity - 10%, in terms of production - 10%. During the difficulties faced by the Russian economy, the defense industry compensates for the decline, which affected some of the civil sector. A number of defense companies already builds civilian production - airplanes, recreational vessels, offshore platforms. I am a year ago in the hospital lay, I looked than I treated operate. All American or European. We annually spend about $ 350 billion. Rubles for the importation of foreign medical equipment. Although this money could invest in domestic development.

- It will also be able to do defense industry?

- Already doing! Moreover, on its own initiative. MRI and CT scans on the technical characteristics correspond to the best foreign models. X-ray equipment for a long time doing normal. Baby incubator for babies gestation collected in Yekaterinburg - even exported abroad. This does not mean that the military plants need to retrain completely civilian enterprises. It is necessary that the civil proceedings was the mobilization capacity and, if necessary, could produce military products. As a joke in the USSR - our pasta and cigarettes were 7.62 mm and a cigar - caliber 20 mm.

- Previously, in each city were vocational schools, technical schools. Where is take pictures?

- We are actively developing training centers that work closely with a particular company. For example, the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant. Chkalov, which we collect in the neighboring shops civil aircraft "Sukhoi Superjet" and multi-purpose fighter-bomber Su-34. Part of the company in Novosibirsk took a training center. Recruit kids, teach good scholarships pay, so that they are motivated for further work in the enterprise. In 1200 we gained during the year. In Komsomolsk Amur -na- have the same school. Many private factories also adopt this experience.

- Production companies in the army appeared again.

- This initiative, including board and the Military-Industrial Commission of the Russian Federation. They offered to make sure that all young employees of defense enterprises were in those parts that are in the profile associated with the work of the enterprise. If you work on the "Kurganmashzavod", then why do not you go to serve in the Airborne mechanic BMD-4M. You see how it works, you will pass "work experience."

- In Syria, too many novelties of the domestic defense industry is being tested. There's "practice" someone passes?

- Our troops in Syria , we sent all the most modern. And the means of communication, and optics, and small arms, and precision-guided munitions. In Syria, we are representatives of companies that are always present on the base, watching how technology is used. If necessary, immediately all repaired, restored.

- Historically, the military-industrial complex of Ukraine has been closely linked with ours. What kind of relationship with him were?

- All destroyed by the fault of Kiev. In late 2013, President Putin instructed me to go to Ukraine. Early December. Maidan has already started to make noise , but not yet burning riot police. I flew with the directors of our defense industry enterprises in Nikolaev, then - in Zaporizhia, Dnipropetrovsk, in the evening were in Kiev - in KB and the factory Antonov. You know how we have taken there? "Finally, rodnenky arrived." These grandparents to "Pivdenmash" literally crying. They really dreamed enter into a single co-operation, in which they used to be. After the coup, it was completely ruined and destroyed. Now Nicholas factory "Zarya-Mashproekt" owes us money. We paid for gas turbine units for the frigates. They have made them ... In the Ukrainian customs paid for equipment in Russia were not allowed. As a result, we have not returned the money, do not put units, but they are not to put them somewhere. A "Pivdenmash" to whom will it work? We had cooperation on missile "Zenit" with them. It was the first step for the super-heavy rocket "Energy". Now we stop missile tests of this type. Make your rocket in the same class, but this time without the Ukrainians. Where will they shop?

- Something in the Crimea, we "inherited" left?

- It seems that the "Messershmity" with the "Junkers" vybombili everything. A total of 28 military enterprises, decent in the past the industry. There are helicopter repair plant, a factory "Fiolent" Instrument in Simferopol. We immediately began to revive the defense industry enterprises of the Crimea. Now, for example, Zelenodolsk Shipyard, which is located in Tatarstan, helps the plant "Zaliv" in Kerch. And share with him orders. It gives not only salary, but also professionals, helping to return the workers. And the Kerch plant is now living, evolving. The same situation in the factory "Sea", to Sevastopol Marine Plant ... And considering the issue of restoration of civil passenger traffic Sochi - Novorossiysk - Crimea, and so on. Need operator-carrier, which calculates routes, economic feasibility, and all this organizing.

On sanctions and import substitution

- For us the Crimea, as is known, gained economic sanctions . They are nasty blow to the defense industry?

- Any supply of foreign machine foreign intelligence services can be used with modern digital programming to remove the information that is made on these machines. And such cases are, and not only in Russia. Therefore, before the sanctions was clear that the brain must be on your machine. Today, machines are doing fine in Kovrov on Electromechanical Plant. A number of domestic companies produce high-quality equipment. The level of the Russian machine-tool by a large defense industry orders began to rise sharply.

- And what we have to do import substitution?

- First, we did a program on all products that came from the Ukraine. These were mainly old Soviet technology. We replace them with high modernization. The second program was the NATO and EU countries, when they imposed sanctions. We assumed that they will hit the machine tool. Well, that time launched its own production since 2012. We have time. As with the high-tech components - optics, electronics, microelectronics for space purposes ... We have launched production at the enterprises, and sanctions have not worked.

On the space station and the moon

- At the same time we still have a large amount of cooperation in space. Why is this segment kontrsanktsii not been introduced?

- We are all carefully considered, analyzed, there were different voices: let us not supply engines RD-180. Prior to that, we have supplied NC-33 Americans. He began to develop in the USSR in the 70s. Accumulated stock on the lunar program of the Soviet Union - more than one hundred engines! Extremely efficient, superreliable ... The whole stock was stored for years at the Samara plant, somewhere behind stenochkoy. And in the heavy 90 remembered about them - the Americans are interested. Money raised from the sale of engines, went to salaries of workers, modernization of production. They still continue to buy these engines. We is also beneficial. We proceeded from pragmatism. Americans - too. The "Roscosmos" constant contact with NASA and ESA. We continued cooperation not only on the ISS, on the Martian program. Our equipment generally works normally.

- How do you see the development of manned space flight?

- The country needs to save and hard to prioritize. In space, they have a few. First - military tasks. Ensuring the safety of the country and from outer space. The second problem - the fundamental science and research. The third - economic task. Creating a large country a stable connection, the introduction of remote sensing, satellite navigation. What really makes money either, or holds the country together. As for science, it is necessary to clearly verify that you need to know. I met including Academician Green, we had an argument in the presence of management, "Roskosmos". He says: "It is necessary to fly to the moon." I defiantly took the skeptic's position: "Why?" He says: "We need to get regolith. He will give an understanding of the origin of the universe. " But regolith on Earth pours. Cosmic dust settles. Meteorites are the same. Obviously I asked him naive questions. I wanted him to convince me. But it is not convinced. A permanent research station on the moon - an interesting challenge. We need a technological breakthrough, we must create a super-heavy launch, orbital module in lunar orbit, the reusable lander. This is a serious problem that will be solved by us not only because we need a lunar station, but because we need greater technological capabilities in space.

- But there is no concrete terms?

- By 2030, we plan to solve this problem.

Nobody has the right to spit in our memory"

- More than a year ago at a meeting of the Board of Trustees of the Russian military-historical society has been raised about the poor condition of the museum on the site of executions in the village Zoe Kosmodemyanskoy Petrishcheva Ruza district, Moscow region. Of course, we have decided to raise funds for the restoration of the museum dedicated to the memory of the heroic women. Most recently, in Petrishcheva held commemorative events to mark the 75th anniversary of the death of Zoe Kosmodemyanskoy. War veterans and future defenders of the Motherland - cadets and cadets - honored the memory of the first woman - the Hero of the Soviet Union, who died in a combat mission. Zoe Kosmodemyanskaya tortured before being executed for a second did not change the debt and called for German soldiers to surrender. No wonder the Minister of Culture, who was present at the event, called Petrishcheva Russian Golgotha. I believe that nobody has the right to spit in our memory, in memory of the heroism of our veterans - the heroes of the Great Patriotic War.

PROJECTS

Arctic GOST and "nuclear battery"

- From the sky - on the ground. The President has appointed you in charge of the State Commission for the development of the Arctic ... What are the priorities here?

- We talk a lot about what our country is huge, it is necessary to use its transit opportunities. First of all, it is the Northern Sea Route. It consists of two arms. First - West, from Sabetta and further to Europe. And the second - the east, toward the Far East. If we talk about the year-round use, the open western shoulder is not a problem. On the east, there is, exceeds the thickness of the ice three meters. In Krylovskaya research center designed superledokol that will pave the road width required for wiring LNG - 300 thousand tons displacement. And he will break through ice up to 5 meters.

- At the same time we have nuclear fleet is not new.

- Yes, his life ends. It is necessary to create a new lean. Now we get three ships. The first is already launched at the Baltic Shipyard in St. Petersburg. There ends the construction of the "nuclear batteries" - floating power. It is from the sea is coming to coastal infrastructure, throws two cables. One - the power, the second - hot water. And any northern city we enliven. In 2019, I hope, will begin mass production of the IL-114 aircraft instead of the An-24 and An-74. He would go on ski landing gear. This is all the tools for entering the Arctic. I also propose to introduce Arctic GOST quality for enterprises operating in the interests of the North - whether it's clothes or snowmobile. What is tested in the Arctic zone, it will work anywhere. But the main issue is now in the other - supply of goods, commodities. For this purpose it is necessary to implement the project "Belkomur", this supply of goods from the Urals to Arkhangelsk. And then the ports are saturated with a large number of products that are easy to transfer to Europe. Then it becomes profitable. The second project - the Northern latitudinal railway, which brings to the Arctic ports large cargo. Now, these projects should be implemented. The budget is not enough. We need to find a partner within the concession.

- China is able to connect?

- Maybe. Because Chinese goods may go through Russia, it is much cheaper than in Africa and Somali pirates. This project I have presented to my colleague on the Russian-Chinese intergovernmental commission - the vice-premier of China Comrade Wang Yan.

MEANWHILE

"I hope relations with Moldova will warm up"

- There were times when even your aircraft into the airspace of Moldova would not start. But you are the president's special envoy on Transnistria. Following the recent elections in Chisinau and Tiraspol, there is hope for some progress in the solution of the Transnistrian conflict?

- Transnistria is in serious isolation. They under any possible sanctions. Ukraine has blocked all border. Constant provocations on the border. Moldova also intercepted Russian officials in Chisinau, journalists unfolded, our peacekeepers. It was decided to recruit employees for our institutions and structures of the Russian citizens who live in Transnistria. Now the situation is a little bit unlock with the new government of Philip and after the election of the new president of Moldova Dodon. We are waiting for him in Moscow. I hope that relations with Moldova will warm up. While they may not grow warmer through, while Moldova remains within the framework of the association with the EU. In Moldova, there are politicians such as Minister-Russophobe Salaru who continue to escalate the situation around Transnistria. To them I would like to say: the path runs through the civil war, in order to "hang out nicely without visas" in Europe, is not stupid and criminal. Correct and patriotic Moldovan government would return to economic union with Russia and other countries, where traditional markets for Moldovan products. Now in general there are no negotiations on the status of Transnistria.

Even more materials on the topic: "Dmitry Rogozin: dossier KP.RU»

Big_Gazza wrote:Looks like there are issues in rocket manufacturing at Voronezh , specifically claims of a material substitution scam with lower-cost but less heat-resistant metals being used in engines (turobopump shafts?) and leading to numerous emission losses due to engine failure.  Kommersant  has reported that RosCosmos is recalling all engines for Proton 2nd & 3rd stages.  

Only libtard sources available so far, but it sounds very plausible, and explains the loss of both Mexsat-1 and Express AM4R, as well as the recent Progress MS-04.

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/experts-check-russian-rocket-engines-for-low-quality-metal-56918
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/proton_2017.html

If this is genuine, they need to catch the c*nts responsible and make a clear example of them.  Despicable corrupt b*stards....  

Big_Gazza wrote:Looks like there are issues in rocket manufacturing at Voronezh , specifically claims of a material substitution scam with lower-cost but less heat-resistant metals being used in engines (turobopump shafts?) and leading to numerous emission losses due to engine failure.  Kommersant  has reported that RosCosmos is recalling all engines for Proton 2nd & 3rd stages.  

Only libtard sources available so far, but it sounds very plausible, and explains the loss of both Mexsat-1 and Express AM4R, as well as the recent Progress MS-04.

https://themoscowtimes.com/news/experts-check-russian-rocket-engines-for-low-quality-metal-56918
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/proton_2017.html

If this is genuine, they need to catch the c*nts responsible and make a clear example of them.  Despicable corrupt b*stards....  

Project Canada wrote:Persistent defects ground Russian rocket engines

as usual NATO agents continue to sabotage Russian space launches

miketheterrible wrote:I doubt NATO agents involved.  More like corruption which probably existed for quite some time but cannot continue on.

Since Roscosmos is now considered a company and not a state run agency, they can now follow legal actions against other companies who supply to them.  As well, they can do their own investigations and take whatever actions they legally can.

And this is probably they are going to do.  They will be compensated for the loss.  By who, I don't know.

KomissarBojanchev wrote:Why can't Russia design a reusable rocket like spaceX? I thought they were all about affordability and efficiency. That said chemical energy rockets are in the past not the future. There should be more research in creating space elevators. Or if not, just extremely cheap rockets that can be launched by the dozens everyday so that large interplanetary spacecraft can be assembled entirely in orbit.