Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

Does anyone know where i can find the overall flight hours of all machines, in generally about helicopters total flight time of helicopter type?

New Ka-52 delivered to Western military district

First Ka-52 "Alligator" joined the Army Aviation Park WEST


Can anyone manage to trace the numbers?

"Until the end of the year the number of helicopters of this type in the Western Military District will increase to 12 units"

For now I know they have 16 Ka-52 in Krasnodar region (south military district) and similar number in Chernigovka in far East. I was thinking, they will give more Ka-52 to those two units to have full regiments of 24 helicopters.

http://russianplanes.net/images/to127000/126457.jpg

Great photo.

How many Ka 52 delivered in 2013 and to where ?

http://saidpvo.livejournal.com/245342.html

Photo report from Progress (Ka-52 hand over):
http://visualrian.ru/ru/site/feature/366812/

calripson wrote:How many Ka 52 delivered in 2013 and to where ?

Good breakdown here:

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/700413.html

2013: 17 built
2012: 21 built
2011: 12 built

In total, including prototypes, 65 Ka-52s built to date. 2 crashed.
63 birds are split:
-20 @ Chernigovka
-16 @ Korenovks
-8 @ Torzhok
-12 being sent to Ostrov
-2 not sure
-5 prototypes owned by Kamov

Good numbers! Seems like we are going to end up 350+ new attack helos by 2020. Even better than I expected!

mack8 wrote:Photo report from Progress (Ka-52 hand over):
http://visualrian.ru/ru/site/feature/366812/

New video from OTV Primorye about the handover in the Progress factory in Arseneev (Primorye region)



And a photo that shows a Ka-62 prototype in the background.

Thanks, any videos or pictures from V. Bondarev's visit to KnAAZ?

Any figures about Ka-52 curved transparency armor?

No files or direct data i could find, but it is a traditional ballistic shield like any other to sustain shockwaves and low velocity impacts of flying around materials and with that is meant more like bird impacts or stones, not really bullets or anything of that speed.

Couldn't find the specific manufactor of this glasses.

I have read a report about testing of the Ka-50 with all flat transparencies where it was hovering 200m from a Shilka that fired a 200 round burst into it. The entire tail assembly was blown off, but as that is not necessary in a coaxial design the aircraft was able to fly to a nearby base and land... with heavy vibration.

It reportedly has a two layer armour structure that makes it rather well protected.

I don't know, what is the level of armor in Ka-52 cockpit, but RuAF could combine both Ka-52 and Mi-28, where Ka-52 take out AD complexes, defending ground units, from safe distance and than Mi-28 destroy the rest of ground forces and have good armor to survive hits from infantry small arms and heavy machine guns. Interesting is, that Ka-52 is designated as scout helicopter and not as attack helicopter.

I have read a report about testing of the Ka-50 with all flat transparencies where it was hovering 200m from a Shilka that fired a 200 round burst into it. The entire tail assembly was blown off, but as that is not necessary in a coaxial design the aircraft was able to fly to a nearby base and land... with heavy vibration. wrote:

Do you have a source for this?

Sounds little bit unbelievable, (not that it couldn't survive it) but that someone would actually test it.

Interesting is, that Ka-52 is designated as scout helicopter and not as attack helicopter. wrote:

Actually Ka-52 was designed as an Attack Helicopter but due the military needs and the operational effeciency lies in coordinated and commanded attacks and not just in technology on its own, they decided to make the older Ka-50 doctrine of beeing special forces attack helicopter with the old plans to mature it in a commanding attack helicopter.

It may have a little bit lower ballistical protection when compared with Mi-28 and Ka-50 but overall it outperformce both in survivability along with its Vitebsk and DIRCM equipment.

They would use remote-control for anything like that. wrote:

I meant it both ways regardless of unmanned or manned, that test is surely cost intensive at least 16 mln USD cost intensive, don't know if a company can risk so much money.

It may have a little bit lower ballistical protection when compared with Mi-28 and Ka-50 but overall it outperformce both in survivability along with its Vitebsk and DIRCM equipment.

This and use of long range ATGM as Hermes (maybe even antiradar Kh-31P, if it will be integrated with Ka-52K, could be also with Ka-52), will make Ka-52 very well suited to do SEAD/DEAD mission for its group of attack helicopters, so they could easier destroy armored vehicles and infantry, considering that western ground forces don't have medium or long range SAM, only MANPADs and SHORADs.

Along with Hermes-A like you said and even the ZALA-Aero Network for airdropable small UAV's like Zala 421 it will have and already has the highest survivability.

I'm just waiting when this airdropable UAV's matures into flying kamikaze aircrafts with 1-2kg warheads.

The article was in a German military magazine called Mil Tech.. (this is their website: http://www.monch.com/mpg/index.php )

I will see if I can dig the magazine out and give more details... it described the double layer armour of the Ka-50 as making impact of projectiles needing some 2,000 joules of energy... which meant US 20mm cannon was insufficient... you needed a 27mm Mauser or 30mm Soviet calibre to reliably penetrate.

BTW they were testing armour protection... which requires live fire tests... they would not have fitted the aircraft with sensors and equipment so it would not cost anywhere near 16 million.

Could it be "military technology ISSUES 6/2013" since it is the only magazine that mentions russian helicopters in the contents?

No.

The issue was from the mid to early 1990s and mentioned the name Werewolf for the Ka-50 as being very appropriate as the author calculated the power needed to penetrated its armour required 27mm or more powerful ammo... ie you really need silver bullets for a reliable kill.

Found it... here is the article:













Note page 66 under the heading "Hokum Test Firing" and below.

Note a single 23mm cannon shell would not blow the tail off, but a burst from 100m range would.

Ka-52 related equipment:

Helmet-mounted target designation system and display for a helicopter pilot (Helmet-mounted target designation and indication system for helicopters)




RFCs Crossbow FH01 (Arbalet FH01 radar)




Laser Station optronic suppression from the board defense helicopters President-C (Laser ECM station from President-S ECM system for helicopters) Information plate (Datasheet in Russian)






806P weapon control system from the Ka-52 (Weapon control system 806P for Ka-52)




Sighting and computational complex PrVK-24 (Sighting computer system PrVK-24)




http://vitalykuzmin.net/?q=node/566

About 150 Ka-52 Alligator combat helicopters will be delivered to Russian Ministry of Defense during the period until 2020


146 Ka-52 Alligator combat helicopters will be delivered to Russian Ministry of Defense by Progress Arsenyev Aviation Company during the period until 2020, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to the Deputy Minister of Defense, Yuri Borisov.

"The enterprise’s financial situation is stable and it has a long-term contract for delivery of 146 Ka-52 Alligator helicopters. The deliveries must be completed by 2020. It is also planned to place an order for 32 ship-based helicopters of the type", — he said. The Deputy Minister noted that the Russian navy is waiting for Ka-52K helicopters, which will be deployed onboard Mistral helicopter carriers.

Yuri Borisov visited Primorye in order to monitor the implementation of a number of contracts signed in the network of State Defense Order and to assess the capabilities of defense enterprises. During the meeting with the enterprise’s management team a new contract for delivery of Ka-52K helicopters in 2015-2016 was being discussed, the ministry’s press-service reports.

"Special attention was paid to phasing out imports; in particular, this refers to Ukrainian-produced components. There are no critical problems and we will be able to handle it", - Borisov said.

Ka-52 Alligator combat helicopter is fitted with state-of-the-art avionics and powerful weapons, which may be configured for different missions.