Russia Defence Forum

Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

Military Forum for Russian and Global Defence Issues


+94
diabetus
Sprut-B
Kiko
Podlodka77
Arkanghelsk
Broski
Robert.V
DerWolf
Scorpius
ALAMO
caveat emptor
bandit6
mnrck
lancelot
Regular
lyle6
walle83
Krepost
Russian_Patriot_
JohninMK
limb
TMA1
Tsavo Lion
owais.usmani
william.boutros
Sujoy
mnztr
d_taddei2
RTN
The-thing-next-door
Rodion_Romanovic
jhelb
thegopnik
BenVaserlan
dino00
LMFS
Hole
0nillie0
AMCXXL
SeigSoloyvov
kopyo-21
Peŕrier
MC-21
PapaDragon
Cheetah
Benya
marat
archangelski
ult
galicije83
Rmf
bhramos
hoom
miketheterrible
Ned86
KiloGolf
Zivo
Luq man
x_54_u43
Isos
Cyrus the great
franco
sheytanelkebir
zackyx
AttilaA
collegeboy16
Morpheus Eberhardt
Stealthflanker
marcinko
magnumcromagnon
flamming_python
medo
Werewolf
TR1
mack8
calripson
Vann7
sepheronx
Mindstorm
Hachimoto
dionis
Vympel
KomissarBojanchev
George1
TheArmenian
KamovHelicopter
Viktor
Cyberspec
psg
Russian Patriot
nightcrawler
Austin
GarryB
Admin
98 posters

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:14 pm

    Considering, that customer was not named, I think this could be either Iran either North Korea.
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:07 pm

    medo wrote:Considering, that customer was not named, I think this could be either Iran either North Korea.

    Definitely not North Korea, but I'm betting money on Egypt as a way to send a message to the U.S. that if you arbitrarily halt deliveries of equipment (which they did for Egypt in 2013, and in Iraq in 2014), than they'll stop buying from you and start buying from somebody 'else', which is codeword for Russia.

    It's no mere coincidence that both Egypt and Iraq simultaneously (within a span of a '1' and 1/2 years) having almost all their equipment order book be bought from the U.S., then suddenly switch to almost having their entire equipment orders supplied from Russia...

    ...Simply put, they're tired of having their equipment coming with strings attached!!!
    Cyberspec
    Cyberspec


    Posts : 2904
    Points : 3057
    Join date : 2011-08-08
    Location : Terra Australis

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyberspec Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:32 pm

    Ka-52 with Kh-35

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 06-3885436-ka-52k-s-raketoj-kh-35ue
    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5926
    Points : 6115
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:32 pm

    Concern "radio-Electronic technology" has developed a multi-channel laser-beam guidance system (LSN) for helicopters Ka-52, Mi-MNP, Mi-28N. The new development will provide highly accurate missile guidance and will allow the helicopters to use rockets of various types. LSN is designed to perform tasks of motion control and bring the guided missile to the target, captured and held by the automatic accompaniment or manually by an operator. The system uses a powerful CW solid-state laser pumped by laser diodes. Scanning of a laser beam is a compact, low-inertia, two-coordinate acousto-optic deflector, without mechanical parts operated by electric signals. In products-analogues control field created purely mechanical means, which leads to lower performance, lower reliability, increased size and mass. "Concern established for manufacturing of highly intelligent and innovative systems and introducing them to the series. They should be universal, in other words – it must be installed on old and new equipment," – said the first Deputy CEO of KRET Igor Nasenkov. According to him, modern laser technology KRET fully meet these requirements. "In particular, the LSN can be installed on helicopters and ground vehicles, MANPADS, and the drones," added Igor Nasenkov. The LSN test confirmed the high precision guided missiles and high reliability of the developed instrument. The laser guidance system is commercially available at KRET.

    Yandex translated source

    KRET
    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5926
    Points : 6115
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf Fri Aug 14, 2015 9:39 pm

    Ka-52 Cockpit Simulator

    http://vk.com/video169874297_169944284?hash=2e4b417ed83dfeda
    http://vk.com/video169874297_169853858?hash=1aac5136f135417d
    franco
    franco


    Posts : 7028
    Points : 7054
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  franco Fri Aug 14, 2015 10:35 pm

    K-52 in the Far East;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1432337.html
    franco
    franco


    Posts : 7028
    Points : 7054
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  franco Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:57 pm

    Some nice shots of the weapons on the K-52;
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1433191.html
    avatar
    AttilaA


    Posts : 167
    Points : 198
    Join date : 2011-10-13

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  AttilaA Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:56 pm

    Apparently the export contract for Ka-52 is with Egypt.

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/135596.html
    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5926
    Points : 6115
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf Tue Aug 25, 2015 4:15 pm

    AttilaA wrote:Apparently the export contract for Ka-52 is with Egypt.

    http://alexeyvvo.livejournal.com/135596.html

    So by todays exchange rate of USD and RUB it would mean that 1x GOES-451 costs 1.45 mln USD, quite expensive but cheaper now.



    Werewolf
    Werewolf


    Posts : 5926
    Points : 6115
    Join date : 2012-10-24

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Werewolf Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:21 am


    http://savepic.net/7404706.png

    The General suggested that in these circumstances it is necessary to modernize air defense facility, one of the important elements which could use the helicopter-interceptor. The task of such a machine would be a rapid response to emerging threat posed by "unconventional" means of air attack and destruction purposes, the use for which anti-aircraft missile systems and fighters unreasonably or technically impossible.

    In this capacity, the Kamov design Bureau has proposed to use the fighter Ka-50. The interceptor was supposed to equip exclusively mass-produced systems. As a means of detecting air targets had to be set radar "Spear", was developed and implemented in a series of OJSC "Fazotron-NIIR", and opto-electronic sighting system of JSC "Geophysics-ART", similar to that installed on various versions of su-27 fighters. As a means of destruction was proposed to use guided missiles R-77 class "air–air", launchers of MANPADS "Igla" and promising multipurpose complex guided weapons "Hermes" Tula design Bureau. Helicopter-interceptor using a 30-mm gun 2A42 could effectively deal with "unconventional" means of air attack, to which S. V. Mikheev attributed primarily UAVs, light aircraft, gliders and trikes.

    The letter focuses attention was drawn to the fact that the new complex "Shark" is built on the open architecture that allowed relatively easy to integrate helicopter-interceptor in a single information field of antiaircraft defense of the country. This ensured the smooth rise and output to a district meeting for the purpose of helicopter-interceptor, and, consequently, reduced the reaction time of the defense to the emerging air threat. An important factor was the possibility of interfacing avionics Ka-50 with a flow of information from aircraft airborne early warning And-50 and held while testing radar picket helicopters Ka-35.
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:47 pm

    http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/69509/

    ИЖЕВСК, 23 октября. /Корр. ТАСС Евгения Самуськова/. Концерн «Калашников» поставил Минобороны РФ первую партию управляемых ракет «Вихрь-1», сообщили в пятницу в пресс-службе предприятия.

    «На сегодняшний день концерн „Калашников“ уже приступил к серийной сборке изделий, и исполнение обязательств по госконтракту на изготовление и поставку управляемых ракет „Вихрь-1“ для нужд Минобороны РФ не вызывает никаких опасений. Первая партия ракет уже успешно поставлена государственному заказчику», — заявил гендиректор концерна Алексей Криворучко, чьи слова привели в пресс-службе.

    Concern Kalashnikov deliver the first batch of Vikhr-1 missiles to Russian MoD according to contract. Ka-52 is finally getting its main armament. Maybe Vikhr-1 missiles will also find their use in Su-25SM3/UBM equipped with new SOLT targeting complex.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Guest Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:18 pm

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 CUcjtNWUwAAdK1F

    >.<
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18488
    Points : 18991
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:36 pm

    2 new Ka-52 delivered in Eastern Military District

    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=3&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20151124/1327311686.html&usg=ALkJrhjfe7cg2EHuL-iio8ocxHzENPCMuQ
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18488
    Points : 18991
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:24 pm

    Rogozin promised to double the release of Ka-52
    Russian Aviaton » Friday December 18, 2015 16:01 MSK

    Annual production of attack helicopters Ka-52 “Alligator” will double by 2017 taking into account the release version of the machine for naval aviation. This was stated by Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said RIA Novosti .

    “Today we got acquainted with the progress of work on the ship version of our armored combat helicopter Ka-52. That was – made four helicopters in the framework of development work for our “Mistral” but we’re still going to do helicopter but at its shipyards. Therefore by 2017 production volume will increase up to 50 helicopters per year – in fact this doubling of production ” – said Rogozin.

    The factory “Progress” in Arsenyev (Primorye) which is produced helicopter Ka-52 received in 2011 a contract with the Ministry of Defense of 140 billion rubles for the supply of 143 units for the needs of the Air Force in 2020. To this must be added contract for 32 Ka-52K “Katran” deck version of the Ka-52 which was planned to be used on the amphibious assault ship of the “Mistral” and that with a high probability of be transferred Egypt who bought these ships. Egypt also ordered in 2015 an additional 50 helicopters Ka-52 in the standard version.

    According to the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies in the period from 2008 to 2011 it was collected in Arsenyev 26 Ka-52 helicopters 2 of them experienced. In 2012 and 2013 the plant gave the Air Force for 21 helicopters in 2014 – 10 helicopters. In 2015 plan Ministry of Defense to supply – 16 units.
    franco
    franco


    Posts : 7028
    Points : 7054
    Join date : 2010-08-18

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  franco Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:09 pm

    According to the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies in the period from 2008 to 2011 it was collected in Arsenyev 26 Ka-52 helicopters 2 of them experienced. In 2012 and 2013 the plant gave the Air Force for 21 helicopters in 2014 – 10 helicopters. In 2015 plan Ministry of Defense to supply – 16 units.


    That total of 26 aircraft from 2008-2011 would have to include the Ka-50's according to this blog's count;

    http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-572.html
    George1
    George1


    Posts : 18488
    Points : 18991
    Join date : 2011-12-22
    Location : Greece

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  George1 Sat Jan 16, 2016 1:03 am

    It is reported that combat helicopters Ka-52 will be transferred to Syria

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1680951.html
    avatar
    Cyrus the great


    Posts : 306
    Points : 314
    Join date : 2015-06-12

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:28 pm

    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalet detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.


    Last edited by Cyrus the great on Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:44 pm; edited 1 time in total
    medo
    medo


    Posts : 4343
    Points : 4423
    Join date : 2010-10-24
    Location : Slovenia

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  medo Mon Feb 15, 2016 8:48 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  

    Arbalet tracks 20 targets simultaneously. This is more than enough as Ka-52 doesn't have enough armament to engage this number of targets.
    Isos
    Isos


    Posts : 11586
    Points : 11554
    Join date : 2015-11-06

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Isos Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:33 pm

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.
    avatar
    Cyrus the great


    Posts : 306
    Points : 314
    Join date : 2015-06-12

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:35 pm

    medo wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  

    Arbalet tracks 20 targets simultaneously. This is more than enough as Ka-52 doesn't have enough armament to engage this number of targets.

    I would agree, but having a full picture of the battlefield would be preferable. The Russians can increase the detection capability of this radar. There are small AESA radars that can detect 1,000 targets.
    avatar
    Cyrus the great


    Posts : 306
    Points : 314
    Join date : 2015-06-12

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great Mon Feb 15, 2016 9:39 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    That's what I read from multiple sources. The Israelis have a 50 kg radar that can apparently detect 1,000 targets, so it's possible.
    x_54_u43
    x_54_u43


    Posts : 336
    Points : 348
    Join date : 2015-09-19

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  x_54_u43 Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:10 pm

    It is 128 targets, but it prioritizes the top 16, also Longbow is 360 degrees while Arbalet only covers the front hemisphere at best.

    I would take the Arbalet any day...Especially with the rest of the Ka-52s systems.
    avatar
    Guest
    Guest


    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Guest Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:19 pm

    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    Its 128 i belive, but it also determines 30(ish? dont rly recall exact number, i guess it could be 32) most dangerous targets and allows you to attack 16 of them at the same time.
    avatar
    Cyrus the great


    Posts : 306
    Points : 314
    Join date : 2015-06-12

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Cyrus the great Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:34 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    Its 128 i belive, but it also determines 30(ish? dont rly recall exact number, i guess it could be 32) most dangerous targets and allows you to attack 16 of them at the same time.

    I've come across that figure as well, but Lockheed Martin itself claims that the Longbow radar can detect 256 targets simultaneously. Source: http://www.lockheedmartin.com.au/uk/what-we-do/products/LONGBOWFCRandLONGBOWHELLFIREMissile.html

    x_54_u43 wrote:It is 128 targets, but it prioritizes the top 16, also Longbow is 360 degrees while Arbalet only covers the front hemisphere at best.

    I would take the Arbalet any day...Especially with the rest of the Ka-52s systems.

    I was under the impression that the Arbalet radar was mast mounted -- without any restrictions in azimuth and elevation. I just wonder what affect coaxial rotors would have on the performance of a mast mounted radar.
    magnumcromagnon
    magnumcromagnon


    Posts : 8138
    Points : 8273
    Join date : 2013-12-05
    Location : Pindos ave., Pindosville, Pindosylvania, Pindostan

    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:03 am

    Cyrus the great wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Isos wrote:
    Cyrus the great wrote:
    I just read up on the Arbalet radar and it seems to be superior to the Longbow in every way except for the number of targets that it can detect. The Arbalets detects only 20 targets simultaneously.  The Longbow can apparently detect 256 targets. The Arbalet has longer range and better resolution.  


    scratch Are you sur for the Longbow ? 256 is way too much for a helicopter radar. It's the level of a ground based big radar.

    Its 128 i belive, but it also determines 30(ish? dont rly recall exact number, i guess it could be 32) most dangerous targets and allows you to attack 16 of them at the same time.

    I've come across that figure as well, but Lockheed Martin itself claims that the Longbow radar can detect 256 targets simultaneously. Source: http://www.lockheedmartin.com.au/uk/what-we-do/products/LONGBOWFCRandLONGBOWHELLFIREMissile.html

    x_54_u43 wrote:It is 128 targets, but it prioritizes the top 16, also Longbow is 360 degrees while Arbalet only covers the front hemisphere at best.

    I would take the Arbalet any day...Especially with the rest of the Ka-52s systems.

    I was under the impression that the Arbalet radar was mast mounted -- without any restrictions in azimuth and elevation. I just wonder what affect coaxial rotors would have on the performance of a mast mounted radar.

    It makes more sense to place the radars on the side and rear of the helicopter body.

    Sponsored content


    Ka-52 in Russian Air Force - Page 14 Empty Re: Ka-52 in Russian Air Force

    Post  Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:23 am