Werewolf wrote:You are not telling me anything i already know. The point is that no one today can proof linage further than 300 years and certainly not thousand years nor are there enough people to claim any blood relatives of some ancient ancestors.
Well Jews claim they can - recall that most Jewish communities in Europe were tight-knit for almost all their histories, they kept records, they mostly married within their own community (as everyone else did too back then), and if a man married outside it then his children wouldn't be considered as Jewish by the rest of his community - at least not in most cases.
Religion and tradition played a very important part in this, and is what allowed and preserved it all pretty much. With some exceptions, Jewish tradition and religion were only passed down by maternal lineage, for the last 2000 years. Therefore anyone who still follows Judaism today, has a very strong case for claiming that he is descended from the original tribes of Israel/Jacob.
The point still remaints jews are highly prejucides among their own religion. You know about ethiopian jews? That they are hated because they are black and that etiopian jews only may enter Israel if women sterilize themselfs?
There are certain tensions, cultural barriers its more correct to say; given the huge cultural/linguistic/racial diversity of the world-wide Jewish community and inside Israel too. As humans with different appearances and customs tend to be, even when sharing the same nationality or religion or whatever else. But it's nothing really serious. Racial tension in the US is far more serious - despite the fact that there, they are all Americans.
About Ethiopian women - I'm sure that's BS, could scarcely be true in a modern 21st country.
Those are weight people from europe that have no lineage to claim to anything. Most jews change their names so often to pseudo-assymilate to "cover" themselfs that it is impossible to verify any real lineage since the jews are most prone and known to change names, religion and story to hide in any country.
You make many generalizations and assumptions. Yes, many Jews did change their names in an attempt to assimilate, partially assimilate or otherwise stand out less. Some took it further and gave up Judaism; or kept their religion but married non-Jewish women and thus their family became non-Jewish and native within a generation. We don't hear about those people today because they successfully assimilated and lost their identity. We hear about those that didn't ultimately take assimilation all the way and decided to hold onto their identity and get married to other Jews (or in the case of a woman, it didn't ultimately matter who she married albeit marrying other Jews was the preferred practice).
Those Jews who assimilated, hid, covered, etc... are not relevant to anything, and their descendants are not interested in claiming Jewish heritage for the most part or emigrating to Israel.
The Jews that did not assimilate are the ones that claim today to have lineage from 2000 years ago. And they have a case for it.
Practically it is impossible to proof nor to even know or guess how far anyones lineage would go. There have been alot of russians who have no ties to judaism or jews and have left Soviet Union in 80's due to economical reasons and because ISrael was paying money to new settlers to make it more attractive so there is a big black number of khazar/ashkenazi jews that have no ties or any blood not even over hundred generations to semitic peoples or tribes.
That's also true. In the 90s Israel made a decision grounded in national security (too many Arabs being born) and economic reasons, to close their eyes on Russian-speakers entering the country and claiming citizenship even if their claims/documents weren't convincing. And the rules were already pretty relaxed even without that - a single Jew from the ex-USSR could bring his non-Jewish family with him and have them claim citizenship on the same grounds that he did. Israel is still engaged in encouraging emigration from the ex-USSR; only most of the people going there nowadays are not even Jews by the common definition, but simply people with a Jewish father or 1-2 Jewish grandparents. And Israel has no problem with encouraging such people to immigrate.
But this is a rather separate question and a very recent phenomenon.