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UN peacekeeper, 2 IDF soldiers killed: Israel, Hezbollah exchange fire
ahmedfire Wed Jan 28, 2015 3:49 pm
An anti-tank missile hit an IDF vehicle in the Golan Heights, prompting an exchange of fire between the Israeli army and Hezbollah, which claimed responsibility for the attack. A UN peacekeeper and two IDF soldiers have been killed.
The Israeli Defense Forces vehicle was struck by an anti-tank missile in Har Dov (also known as Shebaa Farms), an area under Israeli control that borders on Lebanon and Syria, the IDF said.
In a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, Hezbollah said it resulted in casualties among “enemy ranks.”
Two Israeli soliders were killed as a result of the attack by the militant group, according to a statement released by the Israeli military. The statement also said that seven soldiers were wounded.
The official announcement of casualties was delayed for several hours so that the families of the victims could be notified.
The Hezbollah statement says the attack was carried out by a group calling itself the “heroic martyrs of Quneitra.” Quneitra is a district in the Golan Heights. The name of the group suggests the attack was in retaliation for the January 18 airstrike by Israel on the Golan Heights, which killed six Lebanese Hezbollah fighters along with a senior Iranian general.
No soldiers were kidnapped in the Lebanon incident, IDF said.
"The rumor of abduction has been ruled out," Reuters cited Lieutenant-Colonel Peter Lerner, an Israeli military spokesman, who was commenting on Lebanese media reports of a soldier having been kidnapped.
Israel responded to the attack on the IDF vehicle by firing 25 artillery shells into Lebanon, according to Lebanese security officials cited by Naharnet.
Mortar bombs launched from Lebanon then hit an Israeli military position in the Golan Heights, the IDF said, Reuters reported.
A member of the UN peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon (UNIFIL) was killed in the exchange of fire.
"One peacekeeper was killed,” Reuters cited Andrea Tenenti, spokesman for UNIFIL, as saying. “We are looking into the circumstances of this tragic incident."
Residents in the Israel-controlled area have been instructed to stay indoors.
“All residents are asked to return to their homes and to close all doors and windows until further notice,” the IDF’s Home Front Command said in a text message, cited by the Times of Israel.
Airports in Chaifa and Rosh Pina have been closed, as well as roads along the borders with Lebanon and Syria. The IDF is holding an emergency meeting on the incident, Israeli media report.
Lebanese schools in the villages near the border with Israel are being evacuated, according to Al-Arabiya.
Several hours earlier, Israeli jets struck several targets in Syria in response to Hezbollah rocket fire into the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
http://rt.com/news/227007-israel-lebanon-missile-idf/
The Israeli Defense Forces vehicle was struck by an anti-tank missile in Har Dov (also known as Shebaa Farms), an area under Israeli control that borders on Lebanon and Syria, the IDF said.
In a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, Hezbollah said it resulted in casualties among “enemy ranks.”
Two Israeli soliders were killed as a result of the attack by the militant group, according to a statement released by the Israeli military. The statement also said that seven soldiers were wounded.
The official announcement of casualties was delayed for several hours so that the families of the victims could be notified.
The Hezbollah statement says the attack was carried out by a group calling itself the “heroic martyrs of Quneitra.” Quneitra is a district in the Golan Heights. The name of the group suggests the attack was in retaliation for the January 18 airstrike by Israel on the Golan Heights, which killed six Lebanese Hezbollah fighters along with a senior Iranian general.
No soldiers were kidnapped in the Lebanon incident, IDF said.
"The rumor of abduction has been ruled out," Reuters cited Lieutenant-Colonel Peter Lerner, an Israeli military spokesman, who was commenting on Lebanese media reports of a soldier having been kidnapped.
Israel responded to the attack on the IDF vehicle by firing 25 artillery shells into Lebanon, according to Lebanese security officials cited by Naharnet.
Mortar bombs launched from Lebanon then hit an Israeli military position in the Golan Heights, the IDF said, Reuters reported.
A member of the UN peacekeeping force in southern Lebanon (UNIFIL) was killed in the exchange of fire.
"One peacekeeper was killed,” Reuters cited Andrea Tenenti, spokesman for UNIFIL, as saying. “We are looking into the circumstances of this tragic incident."
Residents in the Israel-controlled area have been instructed to stay indoors.
“All residents are asked to return to their homes and to close all doors and windows until further notice,” the IDF’s Home Front Command said in a text message, cited by the Times of Israel.
Airports in Chaifa and Rosh Pina have been closed, as well as roads along the borders with Lebanon and Syria. The IDF is holding an emergency meeting on the incident, Israeli media report.
Lebanese schools in the villages near the border with Israel are being evacuated, according to Al-Arabiya.
Several hours earlier, Israeli jets struck several targets in Syria in response to Hezbollah rocket fire into the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights.
http://rt.com/news/227007-israel-lebanon-missile-idf/
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Kyo wrote:IDF vehicle comes under fire on Lebanon border, 15 Israeli soldiers killed
The evidence offered by this photo showing few hummers completly crushed, burnt
implies the figure of deaths and casualities must be high, nevertheless, Israel dare to claim that only two deaths, and few are slightly injured
. If you take a look of this photo, it is impossible to be injured other than badly, or died. It is hard to believe that the figure of causualties does not overpass 10. Saying that only few casualties occured is ridiculous. Hizbollah, asserts that in the group of 9 vehicles, many were hit, and, it seems they were hit from short distance.Furthermore, Israelis assert too that Hizbollah used anti-tank missiles, and especially Kornet. Kornet against a poor an unarmored vehicles ? Whereas simple rpg-7, or Rpg-29 are largelly enough. Do israelis dream of Kornet ? Are they lack of psychologists ? Do they lack of hankies ? Do they lack of diapers ?
The reality, in Israel, politics as military staff are all completly terraced. If they dare to continue the war, Hizbollah this time has not only very efficients anti tanks missiles, but also anti-aircrafts hardwares, that could complicated seriously the task of Israel air force, accustomed to bomb a defenseless civilians, as poor palestinian entity.
Hizbollah showed in this operation they can reach every objectives that they want, everywhere, against every army in the world, including Israel army, US Army, Saudi Army, or Jordan Army, or turkish army.
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nemrod wrote:Kyo wrote:IDF vehicle comes under fire on Lebanon border, 15 Israeli soldiers killed
The evidence offered by this photo showing few hummers completly crushed, burnt
implies the figure of deaths and casualities must be high, nevertheless, Israel dare to claim that only two deaths, and few are slightly injured
Furthermore, Israelis assert too that Hizbollah used anti-tank missiles, and especially Kornet. Kornet against a poor an unarmored vehicles ? Whereas simple rpg-7, or Rpg-29 are largelly enough. Do israelis dream of Kornet ? Are they lack of psychologists ? Do they lack of hankies ? Do they lack of diapers ?
The reality, in Israel, politics as military staff are all completly terraced. If they dare to continue the war, Hizbollah this time has not only very efficients anti tanks missiles, but also anti-aircrafts hardwares, that could complicated seriously the task of Israel air force, accustomed to bomb a defenseless civilians, as poor palestinian entity.
Hizbollah showed in this operation they can reach every objectives that they want, everywhere, against every army in the world, including Israel army, US Army, Saudi Army, or Jordan Army, or turkish army.
Hizbullah once again proved that they're not a force to be taken lightly. They have been bombed a few times over the years (since the crisis in Syria started), they've kept away from retaliating, and then were bombed again just recently in an attack that killed an Iranian general - and have now struck back.
The Hezzies are terrorists though of that there is no doubt. They blew up a bus in Bulgaria full of tourists and did fire indiscriminately against mostly civilian targets in north Israel during the last war.. albeit you can accuse the Israelis of targeting civilian infastructure too in their retaliatory attacks or simply not caring too much about who they hit.
But what is certain is that they haven't been provoking Israel, they haven't been bombing it or launching any attacks; at least not open ones. Maybe there was a potential threat to Israel from the Iranian paramiltary general and maybe there wasn't.. unfortunately world politics doesn't operate according to premonitions and the Israelis aren't willing to disclose their evidence. So from where I'm standing, it just looks like the Israelis decided to take advantage of an opportunity to settle some scores and weaken Syria and Hezbollah for the hell of it with these airstrikes; but through so doing have been provoking retaliation and now that the Hezzies have retaliated - it should come as a surprise to no-one.
As for the ambush - if that is the true photo of it then 2 KIA sounds too low. Those vehicles are annihilated and so too would anyone have been who was sitting in them; the initial reports mentioned both IEDs and ATGMs. IED's strike instantly and don't give a chance for anyone to get away, ATGMs you can see coming - but you probably won't see them coming if you're not expecting it, and they travel pretty fast anyway.
Furthermore, Israelis assert too that Hizbollah used anti-tank missiles, and especially Kornet. Kornet against a poor an unarmored vehicles ? Whereas simple rpg-7, or Rpg-29 are largelly enough. Do israelis dream of Kornet ? Are they lack of psychologists ? Do they lack of hankies ? Do they lack of diapers ?
Kornet's sound quite reasonable. True that RPGs would have been enough - but the main difference is that ATGMs are guided, medium-range while RPGs are unguided, short-range. It's a lot easier and safer to set up an ambush against moving vehicles with ATGMs
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CIA tested 25 bombs before helping Mossad kill top Hezbollah figure – report
Published time: January 31, 2015 10:16
The US helped Mossad assassinate a top Hezbollah figure in Syria in 2008 by lending bomb expertise and surveillance on the ground, Washington Post reported. The joint operation marked CIA’s post-9/11 drift toward modern-day drone killings.
The death of Imad Mughniyah on February 2008 was initially pinned on the Israelis. Hezbollah’s international operations chief, he was suspected of having a hand in many terrorist attacks, including the 1992 bombing of the Israeli Embassy and the 1994 attack on a Jewish community center, both in Argentina.
The suspicion that the CIA may have been involved in the assassination arose on several occasions. But now the newspaper Washington Post reports that this indeed was the case, citing five former US intelligence officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The US was instrumental in killing Mughniyah, who was among other things suspected of planning the 1983 bombing of the US Embassy in Beirut, the newspaper said. The CIA provided the bomb, which was planted in a spare tire on the Hezbollah official’s car. An American spotter team in Damascus tracked him down and gave a signal to Mossad agents in Tel Aviv that they could remotely trigger the explosive device.
“The way it was set up, the US could object and call it off, but it could not execute,” a former US official told the Post.
The bomb itself was reportedly built by Americans after a series of testing at a CIA facility in North Carolina. The charge was shaped to ensure that no collateral damage would happen – a pledge that the agency allegedly made to US lawmakers during a secret briefing in the lead-up to the operation.
“We probably blew up 25 bombs to make sure we got it right,” the former official said.
The newspaper calls the killing of Mughniyah the most high-risk action by US intelligence in recent years, after the assassination of Osama Bin Laden in Pakistan in 2011. It also marked a significant shift in how America targeted its enemies triggered by the September 2001 terrorist attacks.
The Bush administration secured approval from the attorney general, the director of national intelligence, the national security adviser and the Office of Legal Counsel at the Justice Department to carry out the operation, one former official said. Getting them to sign off on it required a legal justification, which was that Mughniyah “was a continuing threat to Americans” due to his organizing of attacks against American troops by Iraqi militias.
“The decision was we had to have absolute confirmation that it was self-defense,” the official told The Post.
The assertion apparently was enough to override a Reagan-era prohibition on US intelligence agencies carrying out assassinations established by Executive Order 12333 and to team up with the Israelis to kill Mughniyah in the Syrian capital, far from any battlefield. The same reasoning was later used by Bush and Obama administrations to deliver hundreds of drone strikes in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen and even kill American citizen Anwar al-Awlaki without a trial in 2011.
A man walks past a graffiti, denouncing strikes by US drones in Yemen, painted on a wall in Sanaa, November 13, 2014. (Reuters/Khaled Abdullah)A man walks past a graffiti, denouncing strikes by US drones in Yemen, painted on a wall in Sanaa, November 13, 2014. (Reuters/Khaled Abdullah)
The Post says that the US determination to kill Mughniyah was voiced to Israelis as early as in 2002. At a secret meeting with the chief of Israeli military intelligence service senior officials from US military’s elite Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC) suggested to discuss such an operation.
“When we said we would be willing to explore opportunities to target him, they practically fell out of their chairs,” a former US official described the reaction of the Israelis to the suggestion.
JSOC envisioned a commando raid rather than a clandestine bombing attack and wanted Israeli support for evacuation.
Eventually the mission to kill Mughniyah became a long term CIA-Mossad effort with at least a year spent on studying the target’s habits to establish a plan for the attack. At one moment the team reportedly had a chance to kill both him and Qassem Soleimani, commander of Iran’s Quds Force, when they met in Damascus, but the Bush administration didn’t give the agents the authority to kill the Iranian.
After the news of Mughniyah’s death broke, the US hailed it.
“The world is a better place without this man in it. He was a coldblooded killer, a mass murderer and a terrorist responsible for countless innocent lives lost,” State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said at the time.
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Israel Ready to Prevent Hezbollah Expansion Into Syria, Golan Heights
Israel reportedly expressed readiness to boost its defenses along the border with Lebanon in order to limit Hezbollah's expansion in the Golan Heights region in Syria, the Lebanese news outlet Naharnet reported Tuesday.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – High-ranking Israeli officials said that Hezbollah would be deemed responsible for any hostile action against Israeli troops or settlements near the Golan Heights, with Israel ready to retaliate to any sign of aggression, Naharnet said referring to Tuesday's edition of al-Liwaa, an Arabic-language Lebanese daily.
Lebanese and Hezbullah officials are said to have been notified of Israel's warnings.
Western diplomatic sources of al-Liwaa quoted Israeli officials as saying that offensives in the Golan Heights were planned by Iran, and had direct links to Iran's nuclear program, Naharnet reported.
Hezbollah, established in the 1980s, is a paramilitary and political organization originating in Lebanon's Shiite population that aimed to end Israel's occupation of Lebanon.
In January, the Iranian Foreign Ministry said that Israel had carried out an airstrike in the Syrian sector of the Golan Heights that killed six Hezbollah militants.
The toughening of Israel's stance came after a Hezbollah strike in January, which left two Israeli soldiers dead and seven more wounded in the Golan Heights area.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150303/1018984596.html#ixzz3TJUe5Va5
Israel reportedly expressed readiness to boost its defenses along the border with Lebanon in order to limit Hezbollah's expansion in the Golan Heights region in Syria, the Lebanese news outlet Naharnet reported Tuesday.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) – High-ranking Israeli officials said that Hezbollah would be deemed responsible for any hostile action against Israeli troops or settlements near the Golan Heights, with Israel ready to retaliate to any sign of aggression, Naharnet said referring to Tuesday's edition of al-Liwaa, an Arabic-language Lebanese daily.
Lebanese and Hezbullah officials are said to have been notified of Israel's warnings.
Western diplomatic sources of al-Liwaa quoted Israeli officials as saying that offensives in the Golan Heights were planned by Iran, and had direct links to Iran's nuclear program, Naharnet reported.
Hezbollah, established in the 1980s, is a paramilitary and political organization originating in Lebanon's Shiite population that aimed to end Israel's occupation of Lebanon.
In January, the Iranian Foreign Ministry said that Israel had carried out an airstrike in the Syrian sector of the Golan Heights that killed six Hezbollah militants.
The toughening of Israel's stance came after a Hezbollah strike in January, which left two Israeli soldiers dead and seven more wounded in the Golan Heights area.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20150303/1018984596.html#ixzz3TJUe5Va5
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Interesting articles where military power is provding a genuine deterrence to war by raising the costs to elite to levels they find unacceptable. Reminds me of north korea and seoul artillery tactic. Seems like hezbollah has found a good stratergy
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/middle_east/ten-years-after-last-lebanon-war-israel-warns-next-one-will-be-far-worse/2016/07/23/58d7a6ca-4388-11e6-a76d-3550dba926ac_story.html
http://forward.com/opinion/366170/israels-next-big-war/
Its interesting to note how they are intentionally building up urban areas in south lebanon to recreate urban warfare condition to counter israel strengths and play to their own e.g light infantry, 5 years combat experience syria war
It sounds like camouflage techniques are something engenuine and would play well against israel in media war
I like the tactic of going after the ammonia factory and taking out 800 000 people along with electricity stations and water. Cripple the country like what usa and ussr were plannning to do to each other with nukes. No water, no electricity = no manufacturing to resupply / civilian catastrophy to divert resources and raise cost war. Nice change in stratergy by hezbollah, i hope they dont get fooled by success in syria to try and engage israel in conventional war like was tried by all other arab countries - dont play to their strengths play to their weakness like last time
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/middle_east/ten-years-after-last-lebanon-war-israel-warns-next-one-will-be-far-worse/2016/07/23/58d7a6ca-4388-11e6-a76d-3550dba926ac_story.html
http://forward.com/opinion/366170/israels-next-big-war/
Its interesting to note how they are intentionally building up urban areas in south lebanon to recreate urban warfare condition to counter israel strengths and play to their own e.g light infantry, 5 years combat experience syria war
It sounds like camouflage techniques are something engenuine and would play well against israel in media war
I like the tactic of going after the ammonia factory and taking out 800 000 people along with electricity stations and water. Cripple the country like what usa and ussr were plannning to do to each other with nukes. No water, no electricity = no manufacturing to resupply / civilian catastrophy to divert resources and raise cost war. Nice change in stratergy by hezbollah, i hope they dont get fooled by success in syria to try and engage israel in conventional war like was tried by all other arab countries - dont play to their strengths play to their weakness like last time
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"Israeli Army Intensifies Activity In Border Area With Lebanon (Photos, Video)."
https://southfront.org/israeli-army-intensifies-activity-in-border-area-with-lebanon/
https://southfront.org/israeli-army-intensifies-activity-in-border-area-with-lebanon/
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This kinda comes under this subject as Trump seems to be working for Israel's interests. You have to wonder if anyone bothered to tell him what Hezbollah's actual role was in Lebanon of if he just got the Israel party line.
Ali @Ali_Kourani
Trump just said Lebanon is on frontline of fighting Hezbollah. Hezbollah heads a coalition that makes up half of the Lebanese parliament.
Ali @Ali_Kourani 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @Ali_Kourani
Trump just called Hezbollah a menace to the Lebanese state.
The Lebanese president is allied with Hezbollah, its arms are legitimized by Gov
Ali @Ali_Kourani 2h2 hours ago
Trump: "Hezbollah exacerbates the human tragedy in Lebanon"
Hezbollah offers free healthcare to 500k low-income Lebanese citizens.
Ali @Ali_Kourani
Trump just said Lebanon is on frontline of fighting Hezbollah. Hezbollah heads a coalition that makes up half of the Lebanese parliament.
Ali @Ali_Kourani 2h2 hours ago
Replying to @Ali_Kourani
Trump just called Hezbollah a menace to the Lebanese state.
The Lebanese president is allied with Hezbollah, its arms are legitimized by Gov
Ali @Ali_Kourani 2h2 hours ago
Trump: "Hezbollah exacerbates the human tragedy in Lebanon"
Hezbollah offers free healthcare to 500k low-income Lebanese citizens.
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Lebanon PM Al-Hariri: Iran hands will be cut off EN لبنان الحریری: دست ایران در منطقه قطع میکنیم
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http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/hezbollah-is-not-a-threat-to-america/
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So funny this false language and logic . " we will cut off hands of Iran ....." . Iran is not a giant person with giant arms reaching anywhere ! Are the Saudis collecting escaped defunct presidents ? Followed by a yank assisted bombing campaign ? This time they have to fly over Syria !! Flying over Usraeli or Jordanian airspace ? This makes them a target of Hezb forces ! Look how it ended last time for them ! Or wait .....the yanks will provide one of their aircraft carriers in the Med ?! Yes even better plan . Good target for Iranian anti-ship missiles . Why not the usraelis who fear ( there is so much fear in Usrael ) the growing power of Hezb forces , just use their nukes ? What ? They can't ? The blast and radiation will kill them ? They are a very very small entity ..........full of fear ...........fear ..........fear .......
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That's quite a tunnel, had to be deep to get under the river.
Israel Defense Forces
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180ft deep underground
2,624ft dug under #Lebanon
Dozens of yards dug into Israel
This #Hezbollah attack tunnel was dug from the Lebanese village of Ramyeh into Israel & will be neutralized soon.
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180ft deep underground
2,624ft dug under #Lebanon
Dozens of yards dug into Israel
This #Hezbollah attack tunnel was dug from the Lebanese village of Ramyeh into Israel & will be neutralized soon.
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https://tass.com/politics/1075130Moscow concerned over situation following Israel’s attack in Lebanon — foreign ministry
The Russian Foreign Ministry called on the parties "to demonstrate utter restraint and strictly comply with international law"
MOSCOW, August 26. /TASS/. Moscow is concerned over the escalation of the Middle East conflict following an Israeli drone attack on the Hezbollah press center in Lebanon, the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Monday.
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"Moscow is seriously concerned over the recurrent escalation of tensions in this region," the foreign ministry said. "The Russian side has repeatedly stressed the danger of such actions amidst the highly tense atmosphere in the region and warned that they might trigger a large-scale armed conflict with unpredictable consequences."
"Once again, we call on the parties to demonstrate utter restraint and strictly comply with international law, including the corresponding resolutions of the United Nations Security Council," the ministry added.
The incident occurred on August 25, the ministry recalled. "The Lebanese are set to conduct a thorough probe into the incident, including a technical examination of the spy drone and fragments of the combat unmanned aerial vehicle they have got hold of," the ministry noted. "Lebanese President Michel Aoun and Prime Minister Saad Hariri have already come out with official statements describing the incident as an act of aggression against Lebanon, which violates its sovereignty, infringes upon international law and threatens regional security. The Israeli side has given no comments following the incident."
Moreover, late on August 26 Israel delivered airstrikes on the positions of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine General Command, a radical group, in Lebanon. "The situation is aggravated by Israel’s random strikes at targets in neighboring Syria that are said to be meant against the 'Iranian threat'. The latest such attack on a military facility near Damascus took place this weekend," the ministry added.
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Tunnel digging is a good attack method. I remember reading that X - Ray radar can only penetrate 4 meters. Maybe these days a little deeper. So problem is hiding entrance and exit. This can be done by having several shallow tunnel near main tunnel, but not connected to it. To draw their fire. Second the entrance to main tunnel can be blocked by sacks of soil, until the tunnel is needed at last minute. This way hollow tunnel will not exist to allow resonant chamber for X - Ray. More advanced method may be to use other materials in lining of tunnel entrance to absorb X - Ray and other radars to look like surrounding soil. Hospital X - Ray machine can be used to do small scale experiment. Clay soils resists X - Ray better.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/5504-radar-aims-detect-illegal-tunnels-border.html
Also, decoys will fool sensors. Such as vibratory against scisemic detection. Underground heat sources against atmospheric IR detection. Soil distribution on the ground to mimic spoil from digging to fool other sensors. Even industrial X - Ray sources to blind aircraft based radar. Other jamming.
Ask Iranians, they can help.
Tunnel digging is a good attack method. I remember reading that X - Ray radar can only penetrate 4 meters. Maybe these days a little deeper. So problem is hiding entrance and exit. This can be done by having several shallow tunnel near main tunnel, but not connected to it. To draw their fire. Second the entrance to main tunnel can be blocked by sacks of soil, until the tunnel is needed at last minute. This way hollow tunnel will not exist to allow resonant chamber for X - Ray. More advanced method may be to use other materials in lining of tunnel entrance to absorb X - Ray and other radars to look like surrounding soil. Hospital X - Ray machine can be used to do small scale experiment. Clay soils resists X - Ray better.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/5504-radar-aims-detect-illegal-tunnels-border.html
Also, decoys will fool sensors. Such as vibratory against scisemic detection. Underground heat sources against atmospheric IR detection. Soil distribution on the ground to mimic spoil from digging to fool other sensors. Even industrial X - Ray sources to blind aircraft based radar. Other jamming.
Ask Iranians, they can help.
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Looks like these attacks by Usrael are now being retaliated by Hezb Allah forces. Reports of casualties in military vehicle on Usrael side. Maybe they retreat from border and put dummy in military vehicle!!! So now Hezb forces can use same tactic and advance into occupied territory and liberate it. They are good at loosing their strategic depth! Wait! What? They have no strategic depth! Nothing there but dummies..... LOL.
http://217.218.67.233/video//iran/20190831/infoclip_israel.mp4
http://217.218.67.233/video//iran/20190831/infoclip_israel.mp4
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Lebanon Hezbollah releases footage attack on Israel Army forces
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اسرائیل إدعا در مورد تأسیسات تولید موشک های بالستیک با هدایت دقیق حزب الله لبنان در دره بقاع و ساخت ایران پایگاه نظامی جدید در سوریه
Israel Media (i24news) claims about Lebanon Hezbollah Precision-guided ballistic missiles production facilities in Bekaa valley, and Iran building new military base in Syria
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-security-lebanon-israel/israel-says-hezbollah-plans-advanced-missile-plant-in-lebanons-bekaa-idUSKCN1VO207?il=0
Israel Media (i24news) claims about Lebanon Hezbollah Precision-guided ballistic missiles production facilities in Bekaa valley, and Iran building new military base in Syria
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-security-lebanon-israel/israel-says-hezbollah-plans-advanced-missile-plant-in-lebanons-bekaa-idUSKCN1VO207?il=0
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Why Usrael is complaining? They have Iron Dome. I looked at photo of Iron Dome on YouTube. It says guided by radar. Looks like missiles do not hit incoming rockets head on. They climb a little higher or same height. Then they dive down on powered flight and hit incoming rocket tail! So I think they have IR guidance. And rockets are hit at apogee. Not powered. By looking at video I can think many different ways of defeating Iron Dome. But I will say here.
https://youtu.be/JqzXecIRf88
( 1) Rocket body made of composites.
( 2) Decoy rocket flare sent up first with parachute or retard.
( 3) Rocket can have powered down flight, not parabolic fall.
( 4) Rocket warhead can separate. Tail still hot.
Looks like nobody helping Palestinians improve primitive rockets! They just get slaughtered!
https://youtu.be/JqzXecIRf88
( 1) Rocket body made of composites.
( 2) Decoy rocket flare sent up first with parachute or retard.
( 3) Rocket can have powered down flight, not parabolic fall.
( 4) Rocket warhead can separate. Tail still hot.
Looks like nobody helping Palestinians improve primitive rockets! They just get slaughtered!
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They don't have C4IR in place to effectively use rockets, so they end up being a random terror weapon rather than an effective tool for taking down specific targets.
Using measures to increase their probability of getting to the ground only makes sense if they are hitting a target and not open ground like many of them do.
Israelis keep bullshitting on about how they are both a religion and a race, so it would be more valuable for them to try to hack in to US work on genetic weapons and modify them for their own purposes...
Using measures to increase their probability of getting to the ground only makes sense if they are hitting a target and not open ground like many of them do.
Israelis keep bullshitting on about how they are both a religion and a race, so it would be more valuable for them to try to hack in to US work on genetic weapons and modify them for their own purposes...
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This looks like professional army. Very impressive.
https://en.mehrnews.com/news/159083/VIDEO-Hezbollah-warns-Israeli-enemy-by-showing-military-preparedness
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Hezbollah drone recorded a video of IDF site in Shebaa Farms
https://twitter.com/uunionnews/status/1334957416807604227
https://twitter.com/uunionnews/status/1334957416807604227
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Hezbollah has published photos and locations of some IDF bases and facilities .
https://twitter.com/Nabil_abdlsater/status/1362166664398266370
https://twitter.com/Nabil_abdlsater/status/1362166664398266370
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Israel's red line: 1,000 precision missiles in Hezbollah's hands
https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/02/25/israels-red-line-1000-precision-missiles-in-hezbollahs-hands/
https://www.israelhayom.com/2021/02/25/israels-red-line-1000-precision-missiles-in-hezbollahs-hands/
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from an ground warfare standpoint, nobody should underestimate the Hezbollah's skill level and battle experience they gained from Syria and Iraq.
They also learned how to work in unison with air and armoured support.
They know their skills and drills.
Just a random grab from the old internetz:
And yes....thats right at 1:23. they got M1's as well with their own flatbed armoured trucks.
They get their parts (at the time) from the iraqi's and Iran that makes copies of individual parts for western vehicles.
Contest Israel's air superiority with effective air defense, and they are going to have an serious problem going toe to toe with an proper mobilized Hezbollah force.
And consider Isreal already lost an war with Hezbollah before the Syria/Iraq deployment that was nothing near Hezbollah has today.
Combat footage here of Hezbollah from my personal archive:
as i can no longer find the originals;
Hezbollah in Urban combat.
Take note of unflinching RPG shooter at 2:37 that saw death pass him by.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ei4RRDrt637F6IoqxRHL8bgvPECcqsOW/view?usp=sharing
Hezbollah in combined arms assault, sporting M1 tanks and Iraqi gunship support.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvT9emjsvrOjLhs2dIkjMZeNHoIvmQKw/view?usp=sharing
They also learned how to work in unison with air and armoured support.
They know their skills and drills.
Just a random grab from the old internetz:
And yes....thats right at 1:23. they got M1's as well with their own flatbed armoured trucks.
They get their parts (at the time) from the iraqi's and Iran that makes copies of individual parts for western vehicles.
Contest Israel's air superiority with effective air defense, and they are going to have an serious problem going toe to toe with an proper mobilized Hezbollah force.
And consider Isreal already lost an war with Hezbollah before the Syria/Iraq deployment that was nothing near Hezbollah has today.
Combat footage here of Hezbollah from my personal archive:
as i can no longer find the originals;
Hezbollah in Urban combat.
Take note of unflinching RPG shooter at 2:37 that saw death pass him by.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ei4RRDrt637F6IoqxRHL8bgvPECcqsOW/view?usp=sharing
Hezbollah in combined arms assault, sporting M1 tanks and Iraqi gunship support.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bvT9emjsvrOjLhs2dIkjMZeNHoIvmQKw/view?usp=sharing
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