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UAVs in Russian Armed Forces: News
George1- Posts : 18513
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Russia's Military Reconnaissance Adopts Orlan, Eleron Drones
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Project for "rocket" propelled unmanned aircraft with vertical takeoff and landing "Calm-3"
Its apparently desiegned as hybrid so it can land and takeoff like both helicopter and aircraft, in vertical takeoffs and landings its payload is limited to 20kg compared to 100kg in regular mode, composites are used in significant amounts which also reduces its radar signature. For propulsion its using 3 turbojet engines one of which is significantly smaller than two main ones and is used to stabilise during flight (probably used also during "helicopter" mode).
Electronic suite has sensors for mineral detection, photography/mapping, monitoring of hydro meteorological conditions, monitoring actively radiating objects, gas-chemical control, determine the status of oil and gas pipelines, as well as conduct a "survey" of seismic sensors.
Jet drone "Calm-3" for military use can be used as a scout, jammer, repeater for the Army, for the establishment of radar field (several UAVs). It can carry out continuous air border controls.
General characteristics "Calm-3":
Overall dimensions, m: Length - 3.15; height - 0.95; wingspan - 2.98;
Flight altitude range, m: 50-9000;
Flight speed, km / h: 150-780;
Max. the duration of the flight, h .: 5;
Empty weight, kg: 17.6;
The weight of fuel, kg: 38;
Payload weight when GDP kg: 4,4;
The weight of the payload at the OHR, kg - 100;
Radius, km: 500
Source: http://warfiles.ru/show-99352-reaktivnyy-bespilotnyy-samolet-s-vertikalnym-vzletom-i-posadkoy-shtil-3.html
Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwarfiles.ru%2Fshow-99352-reaktivnyy-bespilotnyy-samolet-s-vertikalnym-vzletom-i-posadkoy-shtil-3.html&edit-text=
Its apparently desiegned as hybrid so it can land and takeoff like both helicopter and aircraft, in vertical takeoffs and landings its payload is limited to 20kg compared to 100kg in regular mode, composites are used in significant amounts which also reduces its radar signature. For propulsion its using 3 turbojet engines one of which is significantly smaller than two main ones and is used to stabilise during flight (probably used also during "helicopter" mode).
Electronic suite has sensors for mineral detection, photography/mapping, monitoring of hydro meteorological conditions, monitoring actively radiating objects, gas-chemical control, determine the status of oil and gas pipelines, as well as conduct a "survey" of seismic sensors.
Jet drone "Calm-3" for military use can be used as a scout, jammer, repeater for the Army, for the establishment of radar field (several UAVs). It can carry out continuous air border controls.
General characteristics "Calm-3":
Overall dimensions, m: Length - 3.15; height - 0.95; wingspan - 2.98;
Flight altitude range, m: 50-9000;
Flight speed, km / h: 150-780;
Max. the duration of the flight, h .: 5;
Empty weight, kg: 17.6;
The weight of fuel, kg: 38;
Payload weight when GDP kg: 4,4;
The weight of the payload at the OHR, kg - 100;
Radius, km: 500
Source: http://warfiles.ru/show-99352-reaktivnyy-bespilotnyy-samolet-s-vertikalnym-vzletom-i-posadkoy-shtil-3.html
Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=sr&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwarfiles.ru%2Fshow-99352-reaktivnyy-bespilotnyy-samolet-s-vertikalnym-vzletom-i-posadkoy-shtil-3.html&edit-text=
GJ Flanker- Posts : 38
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Calm-3 looks like the Skynet UAV in Terminator III.
George1- Posts : 18513
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GJ Flanker wrote:Calm-3 looks like the Skynet UAV in Terminator III.
lets hope that it will not have the same artificial general intelligence
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Looks really cool the shape.. if they could make Pak-da with a similar
style air frame will be nice.
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How does it ascend/descend vertically? Are the nozzles vectored downward like the Yak-141/F-35?
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George1 wrote:GJ Flanker wrote:Calm-3 looks like the Skynet UAV in Terminator III.
lets hope that it will not have the same artificial general intelligence
do not forget that drones were deployed to terrains of former USA
As for drone damn futuristic luv it but maybe also Oblivion type drones appear
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How does it ascend/descend vertically? Are the nozzles vectored downward like the Yak-141/F-35?
Above it is stated there are three jet engines with one likely for lift, but not being able to see the nozzles or intakes it is hard to say at this point....
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GarryB wrote:How does it ascend/descend vertically? Are the nozzles vectored downward like the Yak-141/F-35?
Above it is stated there are three jet engines with one likely for lift, but not being able to see the nozzles or intakes it is hard to say at this point....
Well you need to look again and wou´ll see
presume vector can be vertical and horizontal
inlets? pls check those red caps
Good drone for ships, can land on helo pads and flight speed is 2-3x higher. Wish it had more payload then strike missions would ba also possible.
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Abu Dhabi unmanned aircraft maker Adcom Systems has purchased the Belorussian firm "KB Indela", a producer of small unmanned systems.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1586052.html
DUBAI: Adcom looks for international growth
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-adcom-looks-for-international-growth-418847/
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Not really strictly Russia related but there were talks last year about licence production of Adcom's YAHBON-United 40 UAV in Russia.
Buying KB Indela shows they have an interest in the region
http://www.adcom-systems.com/ENG/UAV/YAHBON-United40/Overview.html
Indela promo clip
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1586052.html
DUBAI: Adcom looks for international growth
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dubai-adcom-looks-for-international-growth-418847/
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Not really strictly Russia related but there were talks last year about licence production of Adcom's YAHBON-United 40 UAV in Russia.
Buying KB Indela shows they have an interest in the region
http://www.adcom-systems.com/ENG/UAV/YAHBON-United40/Overview.html
Indela promo clip
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Cyberspec wrote:Abu Dhabi unmanned aircraft maker Adcom Systems has purchased the Belorussian firm "KB Indela", a producer of small unmanned systems.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1586052.html
Not really strictly Russia related but there were talks last year about licence production of Adcom's YAHBON-United 40 UAV in Russia.
Buying KB Indela shows they have an interest in the region
"The Russian military is set to test the Yabhon United 40 medium-altitude, long-endurance UAV built by the United Arab Emirates’ Adcom Systems." - This was released in late 2014. when that "9billion $ UAV deal" was reported, however what is curious to me, is fact Adcom Systems had on their site back then in list of possible missions for Yahbon "strike missions", notice now, its gone and it was there i remember reading it.
Does it mean they tried to integrate weapons and failed in some way in meantime? Coz they were on many airshows with weapons attached and around them.
Now you can sometimes stumble online upon their "Global" version of same layout, it seems they switched their strike version focus on that platform.
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http://eng.itogi2015.mil.ru/quality2015
A quantum leap has been made in development of the unmanned aviation
Experience gained during task performance in Syria, has shown the irreparableness of UAV's in the course of warfare.
In 2011, there were only 180 UAV complexes in the Russian Armed Forces, there are 1720 modern ones now.
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The army is about to test a UCAV which can do speeds of up to 800km/h.
http://www.rbc.ru/society/12/12/2015/566bccd19a79470f3c29a9af
http://www.rbc.ru/society/12/12/2015/566bccd19a79470f3c29a9af
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The Russian company has developed from Zelenograd Neurobotics quadrocopter controlled by thought
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Russia has developed multicopters armed with grenade launches and flame throwers and capable of dodging bullets.
"The prototypes of a reconnaissance copter, a surveillance and fire directing aerial vehicle and a cargo copter have already been developed," the head of the United Instrument-Manufacturing Corporation, part of Russia’s state high-tech corporation Rostec, told TASS on Tuesday.
"They can independently conduct surveillance of targets and make special maneuvers when they are fired at, which makes them actually invulnerable to small arms. Conventional serial produced hand-held grenade launchers and flame throwers are used as their payload," Yakunin said.
A copter is easily transportable and requires no landing and take-off strip or a special catapult as compared to drones. Moreover, it is dozens of times cheaper, which makes its loss in combat uncritical.
http://mil.today/2015/Weapons12/
"The prototypes of a reconnaissance copter, a surveillance and fire directing aerial vehicle and a cargo copter have already been developed," the head of the United Instrument-Manufacturing Corporation, part of Russia’s state high-tech corporation Rostec, told TASS on Tuesday.
"They can independently conduct surveillance of targets and make special maneuvers when they are fired at, which makes them actually invulnerable to small arms. Conventional serial produced hand-held grenade launchers and flame throwers are used as their payload," Yakunin said.
A copter is easily transportable and requires no landing and take-off strip or a special catapult as compared to drones. Moreover, it is dozens of times cheaper, which makes its loss in combat uncritical.
http://mil.today/2015/Weapons12/
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Navodchik-2 invisible from the ground.
Russia tests new stealth drones at Armenian military base
Russia tests new stealth drones at Armenian military base
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Any news on heavy+armed drones ?
Legality, ethical and moral issues aside, I think there's little doubt in great utility of strike drones.
We certainly see great many of smaller targeting/recon UAVs being fielded by RU, but what about Predator-grade ones ?
In today's Syria theater, a 20-40 of these, on around the clock rotation over IS-held areas, could make any tango movement so much harder. Yes, you can certainly fly non-lethal UAV and scramble strike aircraft, but this wont have near the immediacy of UAV-delivered strikes.
I wanted to have it in the UAV thread, but somehow create a new thread instead. Mod - could you fold it under UAV ?
We certainly see great many of smaller targeting/recon UAVs being fielded by RU, but what about Predator-grade ones ?
In today's Syria theater, a 20-40 of these, on around the clock rotation over IS-held areas, could make any tango movement so much harder. Yes, you can certainly fly non-lethal UAV and scramble strike aircraft, but this wont have near the immediacy of UAV-delivered strikes.
I wanted to have it in the UAV thread, but somehow create a new thread instead. Mod - could you fold it under UAV ?
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r111 wrote:Legality, ethical and moral issues aside, I think there's little doubt in great utility of strike drones.
We certainly see great many of smaller targeting/recon UAVs being fielded by RU, but what about Predator-grade ones ?
In today's Syria theater, a 20-40 of these, on around the clock rotation over IS-held areas, could make any tango movement so much harder. Yes, you can certainly fly non-lethal UAV and scramble strike aircraft, but this wont have near the immediacy of UAV-delivered strikes.
I wanted to have it in the UAV thread, but somehow create a new thread instead. Mod - could you fold it under UAV ?
Read the rules and introduce yourself first please
https://www.russiadefence.net/f6-member-introductions-and-rules
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I would think that the ability to deliver powerful blows like the Tu-22M3M makes rather more sense than a strike drone like predator.
I suspect the military upper echelon are enamoured with video footage of drone strikes but their light payload and short combat persistence would limit their usefulness except against high value fleeting targets.
Even then US experience has shown how counter productive they can be politically.
Personally I think artillery supporting troops and air power mopping up those trying to retreat seems to be working best.
I suspect the military upper echelon are enamoured with video footage of drone strikes but their light payload and short combat persistence would limit their usefulness except against high value fleeting targets.
Even then US experience has shown how counter productive they can be politically.
Personally I think artillery supporting troops and air power mopping up those trying to retreat seems to be working best.
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Strike UAV wont replace the proper/proven ways of putting hurt on the enemy.
But consider Syria theater. Large areas are completely out of govt ctrl and baddies travel about freely, at will.
RUAF is not yet flying seek&destroy missions, concentrating instead on hitting stationary targets, such as weapon dumps, camps, CCCs, etc. Very efficient at that. They also hit some gatherings of leaders, acting on intel - but those strikes take hours to put together and long time from take off/launch to strikes.
UAV could hover over key areas, roads, bridges, border xings, etc and, with proper discipline, hit enemy on very short notice.
Gotta have very strict ROE, so we dont take out weddings & such, but there's a gamut of easily identifiable targets.
I am hopeful RUAF will have a chance to field test strike UAV in the theater, figuring out the logistics, usage, targeting etc etc.
But consider Syria theater. Large areas are completely out of govt ctrl and baddies travel about freely, at will.
RUAF is not yet flying seek&destroy missions, concentrating instead on hitting stationary targets, such as weapon dumps, camps, CCCs, etc. Very efficient at that. They also hit some gatherings of leaders, acting on intel - but those strikes take hours to put together and long time from take off/launch to strikes.
UAV could hover over key areas, roads, bridges, border xings, etc and, with proper discipline, hit enemy on very short notice.
Gotta have very strict ROE, so we dont take out weddings & such, but there's a gamut of easily identifiable targets.
I am hopeful RUAF will have a chance to field test strike UAV in the theater, figuring out the logistics, usage, targeting etc etc.
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what earliest date should we see Russia deploying UAVs in the predator class? like the Altius? its been around for years but very little info was made available. I wish they field them as soon as this year, Syria is the best place to test them atm
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FSUE "TsAGI" is testing UAV scheme "tiltrotor"
The specialists of FSUE "TsAGI" completed another cycle of work on the unmanned aerial vehicle scheme "tiltrotor."
This forward-looking flying machine combines the advantages of a helicopter (the possibility of vertical takeoff and landing) and aircraft (speed, distance and flight duration). It is designed to monitor the underlying surface, solving transport problems. UAV is able to be based on non-equipped small areas in the future may be used in various industries.
The basis of the aircraft of this class is a direct extension of the moderate wing. It is composed of a thick sections and is designed as a junior researcher at the Department of aerodynamics of aircraft and missiles FSUE "TsAGI" Oleg Kudryavtsev and chief designer of "INNOTECH" Eugene Kovalenko.
The experiments showed that the overall aerodynamic design is characterized by the expected high for this class of aircraft the level of aerodynamic perfection. "This was made possible by an integrated approach to the design and layout of the wing as a whole, the correct choice of the main criteria. There is still a lot of work in the field of dynamics, stability and control, aeroelasticity provide strength and structure ", - said Head of Sector department of aerodynamics of aircraft and missiles FSUE" TsAGI ", the head of work on aerodynamics UAV Alexander Kornushenko.
In 2016 it is planned to continue testing unmanned experimental installations FSUE "TsAGI". The research will provide a databank of aerodynamic characteristics, to test numerical methods, to identify particular flow arrangement in a wide range of angles of attack aircraft and helicopter modes, reported the press service of the Industry and Trade Ministry.
http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/novye_razrabotki/fgup_tsagi_provodit_ispytaniya_bespilotnika_skhemy_konvertoplan/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork
The specialists of FSUE "TsAGI" completed another cycle of work on the unmanned aerial vehicle scheme "tiltrotor."
This forward-looking flying machine combines the advantages of a helicopter (the possibility of vertical takeoff and landing) and aircraft (speed, distance and flight duration). It is designed to monitor the underlying surface, solving transport problems. UAV is able to be based on non-equipped small areas in the future may be used in various industries.
The basis of the aircraft of this class is a direct extension of the moderate wing. It is composed of a thick sections and is designed as a junior researcher at the Department of aerodynamics of aircraft and missiles FSUE "TsAGI" Oleg Kudryavtsev and chief designer of "INNOTECH" Eugene Kovalenko.
The experiments showed that the overall aerodynamic design is characterized by the expected high for this class of aircraft the level of aerodynamic perfection. "This was made possible by an integrated approach to the design and layout of the wing as a whole, the correct choice of the main criteria. There is still a lot of work in the field of dynamics, stability and control, aeroelasticity provide strength and structure ", - said Head of Sector department of aerodynamics of aircraft and missiles FSUE" TsAGI ", the head of work on aerodynamics UAV Alexander Kornushenko.
In 2016 it is planned to continue testing unmanned experimental installations FSUE "TsAGI". The research will provide a databank of aerodynamic characteristics, to test numerical methods, to identify particular flow arrangement in a wide range of angles of attack aircraft and helicopter modes, reported the press service of the Industry and Trade Ministry.
http://www.arms-expo.ru/news/novye_razrabotki/fgup_tsagi_provodit_ispytaniya_bespilotnika_skhemy_konvertoplan/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork
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UAVs lack the heavy payload capacity of bombers... especially strategic bombers, but they do have very long loiter times in some cases.
When the question is loiter time and combat persistance the solution will likely end up being either UAVs and rockets or UAVs and Airships.
the problem with airships is they don't move fast so to get good coverage you would need a lot of airships. the advantage is they would be able to carry enormous numbers of munitions and operate over enemy territory or disputed territory for weeks at a time.
the advantage of rockets or missiles like Iskander and Kalibr is that you can centralise them and fire them at targets as they appear... problem is that they are not cheap.
Personally I think the best solution would be very small guided bombs like a KAB-50 or even KAB-10 that is accurate enough to hit small point targets without killing everyone on the block.
For area targets larger platforms can be called up, but sometimes a Tu-22M3M loitering for very long periods with 1,000kg bombs can be an answer too.
When the question is loiter time and combat persistance the solution will likely end up being either UAVs and rockets or UAVs and Airships.
the problem with airships is they don't move fast so to get good coverage you would need a lot of airships. the advantage is they would be able to carry enormous numbers of munitions and operate over enemy territory or disputed territory for weeks at a time.
the advantage of rockets or missiles like Iskander and Kalibr is that you can centralise them and fire them at targets as they appear... problem is that they are not cheap.
Personally I think the best solution would be very small guided bombs like a KAB-50 or even KAB-10 that is accurate enough to hit small point targets without killing everyone on the block.
For area targets larger platforms can be called up, but sometimes a Tu-22M3M loitering for very long periods with 1,000kg bombs can be an answer too.
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"Russia’s Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (TsAGI) is testing an unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) with the characteristics of a convertiplane, the Russian Industry and Trade Ministry’s press office said on Friday, February 5, 2016. The unmanned aerial vehicle features vertical takeoff and landing capabilities as a helicopter and a higher speed and an increased cargo-carrying capacity as a turboprop aircraft, the press office added.
"The unmanned aerial vehicle is designed to monitor underlying terrain and accomplish transport tasks. The UAV can be based on small rough sites and will be used in various spheres in future," the press office said. "A UAV of this type features a medium-length straight wing," the press office added. According to the Industry and Trade Ministry’s press office, the tests have proved the UAV’s inherent characteristics. In particular, the trials have shown that the UAV’s design has good aerodynamic characteristics.
Russia’s TsAGI will continue testing the new UAV with the characteristics of a convertiplane in 2016. TsAGI will focus on determining the specifics of the air glide effect in a wide angle-of-attack range at various flight modes. "There is a lot to do for the UAV’s dynamics, sustainability and controllability, structure strength and aeroelasticity," Chief of TsAGI’s Aircraft and Missile Aerodynamics Department and Head of Work on UAV Aerodynamics Alexander Kornushenko said."
Source: http://www.armyrecognition.com/february_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/tsagi_of_russia_is_testing_unmanned_aerial_vehicle_features_vertical_takeoff_and_landing_capabilities_tass_10502165.html
"The unmanned aerial vehicle is designed to monitor underlying terrain and accomplish transport tasks. The UAV can be based on small rough sites and will be used in various spheres in future," the press office said. "A UAV of this type features a medium-length straight wing," the press office added. According to the Industry and Trade Ministry’s press office, the tests have proved the UAV’s inherent characteristics. In particular, the trials have shown that the UAV’s design has good aerodynamic characteristics.
Russia’s TsAGI will continue testing the new UAV with the characteristics of a convertiplane in 2016. TsAGI will focus on determining the specifics of the air glide effect in a wide angle-of-attack range at various flight modes. "There is a lot to do for the UAV’s dynamics, sustainability and controllability, structure strength and aeroelasticity," Chief of TsAGI’s Aircraft and Missile Aerodynamics Department and Head of Work on UAV Aerodynamics Alexander Kornushenko said."
Source: http://www.armyrecognition.com/february_2016_global_defense_security_news_industry/tsagi_of_russia_is_testing_unmanned_aerial_vehicle_features_vertical_takeoff_and_landing_capabilities_tass_10502165.html
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I'll never say an ill word against Sputnik ever again.
https://www.rt.com/news/332045-tank-destroyer-drone-complex/
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