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    Yak-130: News

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:50 am

    An interesting info about Yak-130 family. This is more lee about what  Isaw long time ago on Yak website though now this info is gone.

    http://periscope2.ru/2013/02/06/6906/


    The Yak-130 lost the recent tender of the Russian air force on a prospective strike aircraft. According to a source in the Russian aviation industry, "requirements primarily for booking and defence systems was too high for the plane light class". The tender was won by the deep draft of the modernized su-25 weight of 19.5 tons, which is almost two times higher than that of the Yak-130.
    However, Irkut continues work on single combat version of the aircraft, relying on export customers, as well as the fact that the Russian air force will purchase a light strike aircraft. Single seat modification of the Yak-130 has an index of the Yak-133, were previously known double Yak-131 and supersonic Yak-135. The first prototype of the Yak-133 will be built in 2014

    and this

    Changes to the air-frame will be insignificant, the rear pilot's seat will be replaced by an additional fuel tank and other accessories. The engines will be increased capacity - up to 27.45 kN each, compared with the current thrust of 24.51 kN.

    On impact modification are also installed radar and electro-optical sighting system. According to Konstantin Popovich, it is considered as a variant of the onboard radar and radar in pod. To receive proposals on three Russian companies: "Corporation Fazotron-NIIR", "NIIP. Tikhomirov "Holding and" Leninist ".

    FC-130 radar development "Phazotron" (the index to remain unchanged in spite of the modification) may be millimeter range to find land targets, multifunction radar 30 mm range with slot antenna or radar 30mm range AESA. The last option is the most perfect and most expensive: AESA radar can cost about 10% of the total cost of the aircraft, twice the cost of other systems.

    Suspended optoelectronic container for the Yak-130 is being developed on the basis of the CPR SPC modifications created for Indian MiG-29K.

    These new sensors allow the attack modification of the Yak-130 used ant-radar / anti-ship missile X-31 and the new Russian missiles Kh-38 with different variants of the guidance, and guided bombs. The weapon of class "air-to-air" will include medium-range missiles R-77m. Popovic stressed, stability and handling of the Yak-130 allow the use of such weapons.

    So Yak 135 - supersonic and with AAM with range 110km and relatively cheap in maintenance. Me thinks good prospects on international market and for RuAF not bad choice either for homeland defense.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:30 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:.....................

    Changes to the air-frame will be insignificant, the rear pilot's seat will be replaced by an additional fuel tank and other accessories. The engines will be increased capacity - up to 27.45 kN each, compared with the current thrust of 24.51 kN.

    On impact modification are also installed radar and electro-optical sighting system. According to Konstantin Popovich, it is considered as a variant of the onboard radar and radar in pod. To receive proposals on three Russian companies: "Corporation Fazotron-NIIR", "NIIP. Tikhomirov "Holding and" Leninist ".

    FC-130 radar development "Phazotron" (the index to remain unchanged in spite of the modification) may be millimeter range to find land targets, multifunction radar 30 mm range with slot antenna or radar 30mm range AESA. The last option is the most perfect and most expensive: AESA radar can cost about 10% of the total cost of the aircraft, twice the cost of other systems.

    Suspended optoelectronic container for the Yak-130 is being developed on the basis of the CPR SPC modifications created for Indian MiG-29K.

    These new sensors allow the attack modification of the Yak-130 used ant-radar / anti-ship missile X-31 and the new Russian missiles Kh-38 with different variants of the guidance, and guided bombs. The weapon of class "air-to-air" will include medium-range missiles R-77m. Popovic stressed, stability and handling of the Yak-130 allow the use of such weapons.

    So Yak 135 - supersonic and with AAM with range 110km and relatively cheap in maintenance. Me thinks good prospects on international market and for RuAF not bad choice either for homeland defense.

    Agreed, those National Guard-like units that Russia is forming would eventually be mighty interested. thumbsup
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Sep 21, 2015 4:46 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:.....................

    Changes to the air-frame will be insignificant, the rear pilot's seat will be replaced by an additional fuel tank and other accessories. The engines will be increased capacity - up to 27.45 kN each, compared with the current thrust of 24.51 kN.

    On impact modification are also installed radar and electro-optical sighting system. According to Konstantin Popovich, it is considered as a variant of the onboard radar and radar in pod. To receive proposals on three Russian companies: "Corporation Fazotron-NIIR", "NIIP. Tikhomirov "Holding and" Leninist ".

    FC-130 radar development "Phazotron" (the index to remain unchanged in spite of the modification) may be millimeter range to find land targets, multifunction radar 30 mm range with slot antenna or radar 30mm range AESA. The last option is the most perfect and most expensive: AESA radar can cost about 10% of the total cost of the aircraft, twice the cost of other systems.

    Suspended optoelectronic container for the Yak-130 is being developed on the basis of the CPR SPC modifications created for Indian MiG-29K.

    These new sensors allow the attack modification of the Yak-130 used ant-radar / anti-ship missile X-31 and the new Russian missiles Kh-38 with different variants of the guidance, and guided bombs. The weapon of class "air-to-air" will include medium-range missiles R-77m. Popovic stressed, stability and handling of the Yak-130 allow the use of such weapons.

    So Yak 135 - supersonic and with AAM with range 110km and relatively cheap in maintenance. Me thinks good prospects on international market and for RuAF not bad choice either for homeland defense.

    Agreed, those National Guard-like units that Russia is forming would eventually be mighty interested. thumbsup

    ...But those 'National Guard' units wont make it anywhere close towards Russian borders... Wink
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    Post  mack8 Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:02 am

    Armavir training unit will receive another four Yak-130s shortly. Currently personnel from the base are carrying acceptance checks at the factory.
    http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20150930/1293368765.html
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    Post  mack8 Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:58 pm

    Four Yak-130s delivered, borts 57, 58, 71, 72. Probably they went to Armavir?
    http://djoker-lj.livejournal.com/191933.html

    More details here:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1511336.html
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    Post  George1 Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:59 pm

    mack8 wrote:Four Yak-130s delivered, borts 57, 58, 71, 72. Probably they went to Armavir?
    http://djoker-lj.livejournal.com/191933.html

    More details here:
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1511336.html

    some is for aero-acrobatic team i think
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    Post  George1 Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:19 pm

    4 new Yak-130 delivered, "74", "75", "76" and "78"

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1608319.html

    Total number of production vehicles of this type are set by the Ministry of Defense of Russia reached 75 units
    Currently, as part of 209th aviation training base Borisoglebsk are 42 Yak-130 and in Armavir number of aircraft Yak-130 will reach 28.
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    Post  franco Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:36 pm

    George1 wrote:4 new Yak-130 delivered, "74", "75", "76" and "78"

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1608319.html

    Total number of production vehicles of this type are set by the Ministry of Defense of Russia reached 75 units
    Currently, as part of 209th aviation training base Borisoglebsk are 42 Yak-130 and in Armavir number of aircraft Yak-130 will reach 28.

    First order was 12 + 55 second order + 10 options = 77 aircraft. Two were lost in accidents and the VSK now has 75, sounds like the training version orders are complete??
    There are still the orders of 12 for the Demo squadron and 10 for Naval Aviation in work.
    There should be more orders to come, one would think.
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    Post  Guest Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:57 am

    franco wrote:
    George1 wrote:4 new Yak-130 delivered, "74", "75", "76" and "78"

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1608319.html

    Total number of production vehicles of this type are set by the Ministry of Defense of Russia reached 75 units
    Currently, as part of 209th aviation training base Borisoglebsk are 42 Yak-130 and in Armavir number of aircraft Yak-130 will reach 28.

    First order was 12 + 55 second order + 10 options = 77 aircraft. Two were lost in accidents and the VSK now has 75, sounds like the training version orders are complete??
    There are still the orders of 12 for the Demo squadron and 10 for Naval Aviation in work.
    There should be more orders to come, one would think.

    Generally speaking Russia would need probably close to 300 advanced trainers taking in count size of airforce in general, maybe even more in future. Its common practice to send pilots to advanced trainers to keep them in shape to reduce costs. US operates around 1000 of varios types of advanced and "mid" trainers for an example.
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    Post  franco Wed Dec 23, 2015 8:28 am

    4 more Yak-130's to Armavir bring total to 32 and delivered aircraft to 79;

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1641586.html
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    Air defence exercise of new Belorussian Yak 130s
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    Post  Guest Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:36 pm

    "Laos Air Force interested in acquiring Yak-130 Russian-made aircraft. Double function jet training and combat vehicles will be used for pilot training and combat missions. The correspondent “Lenta” at the Singapore Airshow 2016 Airshow said a source in the defense industry.

    “Laos interested in this machine, it makes it relatively inexpensive to close a failure, formed after the failure of their MiG-21 aircraft, derived from the Soviet Union in 1970”, – said the interlocutor “Lenta”. The source said that Laos could receive 16-20 aircraft, the contract will include supply of additional equipment, weapons and spare parts, as well as the organization of training of pilots and technicians. Currently, the Air Force of Laos are registered about 25 MiG-21 fighters, but the vast majority of them are airworthy.

    The Yakovlev Yak-130 (NATO reporting name: Mitten) is a subsonic two-seat advanced jet trainer/light attack aircraft or lead-in fighter trainer originally developed by Yakovlev and Aermacchi. Development of the plane began in 1991 and the maiden flight was conducted on 25 April 1996. In 2002, it won a Russian government tender for training aircraft and in 2009 the aircraft entered service with the Russian Air Force. As an advanced training aircraft, the Yak-130 is able to replicate the characteristics of several 4+ generation fighters as well as the fifth-generation Sukhoi PAK FA. It can also perform light-attack and reconnaissance duties, carrying a combat load of 3,000 kg."


    Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/laos-interested-in-yak-130-light-attack-aircraft.html
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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:01 am

    Militarov wrote:"Laos Air Force interested in acquiring Yak-130 Russian-made aircraft. Double function jet training and combat vehicles will be used for pilot training and combat missions. The correspondent “Lenta” at the Singapore Airshow 2016 Airshow said a source in the defense industry.

    “Laos interested in this machine, it makes it relatively inexpensive to close a failure, formed after the failure of their MiG-21 aircraft, derived from the Soviet Union in 1970”, – said the interlocutor “Lenta”. The source said that Laos could receive 16-20 aircraft, the contract will include supply of additional equipment, weapons and spare parts, as well as the organization of training of pilots and technicians. Currently, the Air Force of Laos are registered about 25 MiG-21 fighters, but the vast majority of them are airworthy.

    The Yakovlev Yak-130 (NATO reporting name: Mitten) is a subsonic two-seat advanced jet trainer/light attack aircraft or lead-in fighter trainer originally developed by Yakovlev and Aermacchi. Development of the plane began in 1991 and the maiden flight was conducted on 25 April 1996. In 2002, it won a Russian government tender for training aircraft and in 2009 the aircraft entered service with the Russian Air Force. As an advanced training aircraft, the Yak-130 is able to replicate the characteristics of several 4+ generation fighters as well as the fifth-generation Sukhoi PAK FA. It can also perform light-attack and reconnaissance duties, carrying a combat load of 3,000 kg."


    Source: http://defence-blog.com/news/laos-interested-in-yak-130-light-attack-aircraft.html

    good news and perfect for small armed forces like Laos. However i think 16-20 aircraft being ordered is a slim chance, Laos has around $80-100m armed forces budget, and they couldnt even keep the 25 Mig-21 they had in flying condition, and i personally feel they dont have a need for that many, the country is pretty peaceful, and don't feel threatened by its neighbours, when i travelled through the country a few years ago, it was the most peaceful country i have ever visited, and speaking to people who could speaking english said they were a peaceful country and there was no real trouble. And they remain good relations with Vietnam so any threat to Laos would have Vietnam to deal with. I think at most 6 would be enough, but if i have to be honest they would be better buying Mi-17 and a couple of Mi-26, as these could double up and be used for disaster relief if needed, the Mi-17 could also be converted to gunship if needed. The country is pretty poor so to waste money on 16-20 Yak-130 could piss a lot of local people off.


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    Post  medo Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:12 am

    Any informations, when RuNAVY plan to replace their L-39 trainers with Yak-130?
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    Post  franco Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:26 am

    medo wrote:Any informations, when RuNAVY plan to replace their L-39 trainers with Yak-130?

    I don't think the Naval Aviation has any L-39's as basic aviation training for all military (including Border Guards, MVD, etc) is carried out by the VSK. There are 10 Yak-130's on order for the Navy but I think they replace the Su-25UTG's, etc.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 22, 2016 4:55 pm

    So Yak 135 - supersonic and with AAM with range 110km and relatively cheap in maintenance. Me thinks good prospects on international market and for RuAF not bad choice either for homeland defense.

    An important point to keep in mind is that even if the Yak-135 could fly supersonic it would be very rare for it to actually do so operationally.

    Flying supersonic burns a lot of fuel very fast an such a small aircraft with newer bigger more thirsty engines will need to carry drop tanks most of the time just to have a decent radius of action.

    Its advantage will be numbers... it wont need to be supersonic to cover 1000km square, because you can buy 4 for the price of a larger alternative fighter... base them all around the place and you get better coverage.

    In a larger air force have a dozen of them armed with AAMs and have them defending your airfields and cities will the other larger more expensive fighters take on the enemy.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:51 pm

    GarryB wrote:
    So Yak 135 - supersonic and with AAM with range 110km and relatively cheap in maintenance. Me thinks good prospects on international market and for RuAF not bad choice either for homeland defense.

    In a larger air force have a dozen of them armed with AAMs and have them defending your airfields and cities will the other larger more expensive fighters take on the enemy.

    That´s precisely my idea of application in Russian AF. Of course export potential is enormous: all countries in need of relatively cheap fighter both price and maintenance could be interested.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Feb 23, 2016 5:26 pm

    An interesting vid about Yak-130.

    From 3:15 they say: that tests of CAS version based on Yak-130 have already started. YAK still plans a drone and fighter however no fixed plans yet.

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    Post  franco Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:01 am

    Armavir (Krasnodar region), February 23 -. RIA Novosti More than 200 students will be trained in Armavir on the latest combat training aircraft Yak-130 in 2020, told reporters on Tuesday
    during the celebration of the 75th anniversary of Armavir aviauchilischa commander of the Air Force - Deputy Commander VKS Russian Lieutenant-General Andrei Yudin.

    "Today is a unique day - we celebrate the 75th anniversary of the Armavir Higher Military Aviation School and the 65th anniversary of the Armavir training airbase at this airport," - he said.

    Currently, the air base in the Kuban is the successor of Armavir school. According to Yudin, a feature of these places is almost year-round good flying weather.

    "This air base - source of manpower for the Air Force number of students each year will increase -. A few years later, in 2020, this airport will be trained more than 200 students," - said the commander of the Air Force.

    Armavir base is an integral part of the Krasnodar Aviation School. At present, within its walls are trained 580 students of senior courses - those who have already started flying practice, in 2017 there will be more than 1,100 people.

    "Training facilities received in 2015, the latest combat training aircraft Yak-130, on which the future pilots are trained on a completely different type of fighter - from the MiG-29 and Su-30", - said Yudin.

    Previously released Armavir airbase pilots of the MiG-29, and now, to give the Yak-130 training opportunities greatly enhanced.
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    Post  eehnie Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:52 am

    Just curious about the commented supersonic Yak-135. I'm a little surprised that a version of the Yak-130 can become supersonic.


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    Post  Guest Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:18 am

    eehnie wrote:Just curious about the commented supersonic Yak-135. I'm a little surprised that a versión of the Yak-130 can become supersonic.


    Put engines with enough thrust on a locomotive and it will be supersonic.

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    Post  eehnie Tue Mar 01, 2016 1:28 pm

    Militarov wrote:
    eehnie wrote:Just curious about the commented supersonic Yak-135. I'm a little surprised that a versión of the Yak-130 can become supersonic.


    Put engines with enough thrust on a locomotive and it will be supersonic.

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    But the rest of the design must resist them. It would be very interesting if the Yak-130 can do it.

    I think it would be possible to see Russia taking the supersonic version instead of the subsonic for new training aircrafts.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:10 pm

    There is only one reason the Yak-130 is not supersonic... its non afterburning engines don't put out enough thrust.

    Putting in larger more powerful engines could easily have made it supersonic, but in the training role there are very few reasons to go supersonic.

    The thing is that larger more powerful engines would burn more fuel and shorten range and reduce the time in the air.

    take the two small engines out and put a big engine in like the latest RD-33 of the MiG-35 and you would have a supersonic aircraft... useful for a small fighter... not so much use for a lead in fighter trainer.
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    Post  eehnie Tue Mar 01, 2016 3:25 pm


    I see interesting a small supersonic trainer for the first supersonic experiences of the pilots, instead of doing it in bigger and more expensive Su-24, MiG-29,...

    A supersonic trainer can help to save money.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:09 pm

    GarryB wrote:There is only one reason the Yak-130 is not supersonic... its non afterburning engines don't put out enough thrust.

    Putting in larger more powerful engines could easily have made it supersonic, but in the training role there are very few reasons to go supersonic.

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