Su-35S: News #2

Russia Shows Off Its Su-35 and SU-57E Fighters With New Pilot Station Simulators


Russia is a regular at international military shows, where it can showcase its latest products aimed at foreign customers. But there’s nothing like a local event to really bring out “the big guns”. In this case, some of Russia’s most famous fighter aircraft.
The SU-57 is a 5th generation military aircraft with advanced avionics and automated features
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The Russian export agency for defense products, Rosoboronexport, is the official sponsor of this year’s MAKS International Air Show, which will take place at the Gromov Flight Research Institute’s airfield in Zhukovsky, close to Moscow. No less than 120 delegations from 65 countries will attend the event from July 20 to July 25.

The Russian agency plans to introduce its touchscreen-based, interactive multimedia installation that will allow visitors to see up to 38 3D models of advanced defense products, including photos, videos and additional information. Scaled models of various helicopters, ranging from the Mi-35M transport helicopter to the KA-53 scout/attack helicopter, will also be on display.

But one of the most anticipated novelties at the MAKS Show are the virtual reality pilot station simulators for the Su-35 and Su-57E fighter jets, developed by the same company who manufactured the aircraft, Sukhoi (part of the United Aircraft Corporation).

A 4th generation airplane that uses 5th generation technology, the SU-35 was made to be able to fight in conditions where standard 4th generation planes couldn’t perform, as a way to “fill the gap” until the next-generation aircraft will enter the service.

A multi-purpose fighter, the SU-35 features a modified airframe structure, for better performance, as well as upgraded airborne equipment and weapons. According to the manufacturer, it’s supposed to blend the best from a fighter (optimal maneuverability, supersonic speed, long range) with the best from a tactical airplane (wide range of weapons and advanced electronic warfare capabilities).

Su-57E, on the other hand, is one of the most recent aircraft in Russia’s arsenal, a 5th generation airplane that integrates a new set of avionics, including high-level automated control features and intelligent crew support. This not only eases the pilots’ workload, but it gives the advantage of real-time communication and data exchange with a ground-based control system.

Attendees at the MAKS-2021 will have the chance, for the first time, to experience these 2 impressive aircraft, thanks to the new pilot station simulators.

Finty wrote:Moving on, I have some questions for this forum regarding the really quite fetching Su-35 Arctic Camo scheme and other paintjobs

Is it true this was done for airshows?

How many Su-35s wear this scheme?

And finally, how many Su-35s were delivered in the old dark grey topside/light grey underside scheme a la some Su34s and Su30SMs and when did that start being replaced by the more familiar blue camo?

GarryB wrote:It is not an accident that the Su-57 is smaller than the Su-35 and closer in size to the MiG-35...

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the one thing I like about US planes is the rather basic grey color. Dont know why I like it, I just do. To each their own. I look forward to Egypt's full acquisition of these jets.

I do not see anywhere that the Su-57 and the MiG-35 are alike in size

So my guess from now on is, that there may be a potential for this frame to take off from the carrier with no assistance. Sure, we can discuss with what load, carrier speed, and wind conditions, still ... that face made me wonder.

GarryB wrote:

the one thing I like about US planes is the rather basic grey color. Dont know why I like it, I just do. To each their own. I look forward to Egypt's full acquisition of these jets.

After decades of hearing it is low visibility that video shown where a flanker in its poor blue and white camouflage shooed away an American F-15 in the low vis gray really opened my eyes to what bullshit that really was.

The Flanker... which is a similar sized aircraft was on the camera side of the F-15 as it forced it away so it was always closer and it disappeared into the background of clouds... and the F-15 remained visible at all times.

Someone claimed it was a good colour for night missions... which is obviously bullshit... it would not be dark enough...

ALAMO wrote:It is nice to see the smoothness of Su-35 production.

I have yet to read any criticism of the RusAF's camo schemes, have you seen it happen often?

Cheetah wrote:Anyone hear about the recent rumours claiming the Rafale was able to jam the radars of Egyptian Su-35s?

According to all secondary sources of the rumour, the origin of the claim was by a military defence analysis magazine going by the name "Breaking Defense", which apparently quoted "Egyptian air force sources". One such secondary source has already been quoted on the Su-35 Wikipedia article, where the claim is getting mentioned. Despite this, I can't seem to find the original quote anywhere.

In summary, according to the claim; while the Su-35 was playing the role of aggressor in an unnamed exercise involving Rafale F3Rs, its radar was repeatedly jammed, and it was subsequently shot down in simulated BVR combat.

Information around the event seems to be scarce, so I'm definitely dubious, but I can't say I feel anything but concern if it's remotely true.

Broski wrote:It's called rumors for a reason, and using wikipedia as a source is beyond a joke. I'll wait to hear what  Egyptian officials has to say about it.

Broski wrote:It's called rumors for a reason, and using wikipedia as a source is beyond a joke. I'll wait to hear what Egyptian officials has to say about it.

Cheetah wrote:Anyone hear about the recent rumours claiming the Rafale was able to jam the radars of Egyptian Su-35s?

According to all secondary sources of the rumour, the origin of the claim was by a military defence analysis magazine going by the name "Breaking Defense", which apparently quoted "Egyptian air force sources". One such secondary source has already been quoted on the Su-35 Wikipedia article, where the claim is getting mentioned. Despite this, I can't seem to find the original quote anywhere.

In summary, according to the claim; while the Su-35 was playing the role of aggressor in an unnamed exercise involving Rafale F3Rs, its radar was repeatedly jammed, and it was subsequently shot down in simulated BVR combat.

Information around the event seems to be scarce, so I'm definitely dubious, but I can't say I feel anything but concern if it's remotely true.

Gomig-21 wrote:

Cheetah wrote:Anyone hear about the recent rumours claiming the Rafale was able to jam the radars of Egyptian Su-35s?

According to all secondary sources of the rumour, the origin of the claim was by a military defence analysis magazine going by the name "Breaking Defense", which apparently quoted "Egyptian air force sources". One such secondary source has already been quoted on the Su-35 Wikipedia article, where the claim is getting mentioned. Despite this, I can't seem to find the original quote anywhere.

In summary, according to the claim; while the Su-35 was playing the role of aggressor in an unnamed exercise involving Rafale F3Rs, its radar was repeatedly jammed, and it was subsequently shot down in simulated BVR combat.

Information around the event seems to be scarce, so I'm definitely dubious, but I can't say I feel anything but concern if it's remotely true.

Yeah it's all bogus.  The biggest giveaway was when they quoted that the Rafales incapacitated the "BARS" radar.  We all know that the Su-35S has the IRBIS-E and not the BARS lol.  I wouldn't pay any attention to that.  

Also SPECTRA on the Rafale is a defensive suite to fool any enemy lock onto it.  It doesn't have any mechanism to do anything beyond that to any other aircraft radar, so that part they claimed in the article is also bogus.

The EAF told the US they preferred the Su-35S over the F-15 that was offered instead, so that tells you right there what they think of that awesome aircraft.